Not everyone knows the Extreme amount of work that goes into EI here. Most of my small channel is simple... but still takes approximately 1-2 hours per minute... up to 6 hours or days on extended edits. EI has to do a lot of research and cross checking... Plus all the editing... Plus the paranoia of getting flagged by YT...
Our Canadian ambassador to the UN continually uses the word Hamas as synonymous with terrorism. The ongoing starvation policy of Israel against children and women of Gaza is never called an act of terrorism. Just sayin...
had the same conversation recently with a friend, ironically supporter of the palestinian. Helena is absolutely right on how condescending is to offer support with the condition of excluding Hamas, as if we could be a moral authority to their support for their main source of resistence. it's sad how much stereotypes of "radical islam" have reached into the public subconscious
The Ugandan river called River Kagera. And we have a massive cemetery site for the Rwandan genocide victims, which people go and visit every year to put flowers on the gravestones.
It has persuaded lots of Israel's supporters who don't want to know the truth and pounce on anything that agrees with their mindset. I have always wanted to know more about Hamas because we never get their side of the story, only western propaganda. How can you understand a situation without hearing all sides?
Have you listened to read any of Prof Rashid Khalidi’s work? He’s a Palestinian scholar that’s well worth listening to. And some Israeli scholars tell the truth (and are threatened by the Israeli govt for it) - Avi Shlaim, Ilan Pappe, and a Jewish American - Prof Norm Finkelstein
Been a while since checking in, so pleased to of. This was fascinating. It is fundamental to understand the seeds of any resistance. Soaked this right up, shall continue to follow your work. Thank you for the talk, have just ordered your book, Helena. Youre fantastic, E.I. Crutial and forever enlightening in this moment. Be well all and look after one another. Long Live Palestine. ❤🇵🇸 🪶 Solidarity from Scotland.
It should be obvious to anyone that violence is part of any resistance to oppression. Examples in recent history in Ireland,Scotland and Africa come to mind. It's impossible to me to condemn them.
Very interesting guest, super informative as always. EI you have been so impressive and an incredible source of diverse information and context which has been so effective at countering the lies and propoganda pumped out by the perpetrators of this disgraceful genocide. I recommend you to anyone that will listen.
Great guest Ms Cobban, I've seen some of her panel's recent videos and recommend watching. I'm wondering why I never see anything from Alison Weir, any info?
Hroub meticulously analysed three of the Islamist movement's key post-Charter texts: Hamas's election platform, entitled ‘Change and Reform’, from autumn 2005; its draft ‘Programme for a Government of National Unity’ (March 2006); and the government platform presented by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh to the new Parliament on 27 March 2006. The researcher notes that Hamas has become a ‘profoundly different organisation’ from the one that emerged at the start of the first Intifada in December 1987. In its texts, the organisation states that it is concerned with political freedoms, ‘including freedom of expression, of the press and of association’, ‘pluralism’, ‘separation of powers’ and ‘peaceful alternation of power’. But it is also concerned with ‘building a developed civil society’ and respect for the rights of minorities... Not a single one of these documents has been widely circulated in the Western media and official circles.
I knew I was going to be informed.I would like to hear more about what Hamas leaders/people are saying/organising.I'm going to listen to those Just World webinaires.
westerners never admitted the crimes of colonialism not mention reparations so how do you expect them to understand the Palestinian resistance. To this day, they defend their role in civilizing the brutes and are not interested, except for a few, to face the truth with all the details. Don't except them to change unless you force them to face reality.
So Helena Cobban, this is amazing! I am a normal citizen but with a duty to be correctly informed given the transformational events in Gaza for the modern world. One thing that I cannot comprehend or find a meaningful answer is why People in Gaza do not deny Hamas, after 37'000.civilians were killed. I cannot agree with the logic that they agree with Hamas's very limited prowess and 0 protection they can offer the citizens. If I were Hamas I would conduct my mission out of the populated areas because I have no military possibility to protect the citizens I am fighting for. How can that be?
I will tell my future grandchildren about journalists like you, the intercept, gray zone- and the likes of Matt Lee - I'll say history is wrong when they rewrite this and once again say "No one knew, and those who did couldn't speak out" This is what we're told in school in Sweden about the Holocaust, and I was so confused since my grandfather and other relatives, including relatives by marriage: told me from an early age that the camps were known. By the fascist leaders of Europe from the get go, by many citizens here very early on - since people did travel and 6 million people didn't "disappear" in "the fog of war" without massive notice. Fairly early on the camps and atrocities were broadcasted on state radio. And the protests and resistance they, my relatives and their parents and grandparents, engaged in, for which people spat at them. No one cared, they weren't particularly against that at all, antisemitism was strong in Europe- the shock came with the death toll, and the stance against it came when the allies won I'll be forever grateful for those stories my family told me, both for my sanity and for them letting me honor those who deserve admiration. So I'll pay it forward to my own grandchildren - It's a soothing thought, or it was for me personally, a welcomed effect when honoring the people who deserve it. Ive rarely raiswd my voice to my children at all, but in this house anyone who disrespects Aaron Bushnell will get a telling off and a lecture they'll never forget. Cause Aaron was, is and will always be a hero and one of the few of the west. Luckily my children shares that sentiment ❤❤❤❤❤
And of course all the brave journalists who were murdered by US weapons aimed at them by fascists during this, and the western journalists and others who lost their livelihood and more for speaking out. Our brave students, the Jewish people protesting this while getting 1930'ied by the same fascists who did that to their ancestors, and the ones who turned jews away when they fled the na sis
i wanna know where people can get good cheap political books nowadays cos i noticed that my local libraries have fewer and fewer political books.. they claim its about popularity, but a library is a service not a book store.. its should be about popularity.. they should have a good, broad range of books on all subjects.. a library shouldnt be run like a business... all trashy novels. and when i used to try to buy books on amazon and other websites, what i noticed is that all the good books are rare and very expensive... when i used to read up on Communism or Anarchism for example, the cheap books might have a big red hammer & sickle on the front, but id quickly realise it was written by someone who hates communism and is trying to convince you to not like it too.. it would draw you to the book with a nice bright cover but you could quite easily see it was written by a capitalist who subtly or not so subtly is trying to convince you its bad.. most of the cheaper and newer books seemed to be like that... i had to get more expensive old books for an unbiased look at a subject. and i think companies like amazon are doing this on purpose.. ive noticed over the last decade or two its becoming increasingly more difficult to find truth about history and information on other ideologies that the state doesnt want you to know about
@@margitwes6495 in my local area all the second and charity book stores all sell garbage books like celebrity biographies and trash novels.. i know cos i used to buy & sell books to raise money for a charity... most of the people in my area have very poor taste in books - and also from doing car boot sales etc. id probably have to go to a more open minded classy place to find interesting books
@@naradaian what an ignorant comment. I buy a lot of books but still one would like to know to buy them cheaper. It seems you have never-ending funds, good for you. That to me is entitlement screaming large
*Summary of "Why it's important to understand Hamas’s political wing, with Helena Cobban"* * *[Start]* *Helena Cobban*, Director of Just World Educational, joins the Electronic Intifada to discuss the proposed ceasefire in Gaza, Hamas's role, and the shifting geopolitical landscape. * *[**0:49**]* Cobban criticizes the *Biden Administration's diplomacy* as inept, highlighting a lack of experience among key advisors. * *[**6:41**]* She argues that the proposed ceasefire, presented as an Israeli initiative, is actually a plan Hamas has agreed to for months. * *[**11:22**]* The discussion focuses on the *demonization of Hamas* in Western media and politics, drawing parallels to similar tactics used against other liberation movements historically. * *[**18:56**]* Cobban's project, *"Understanding Hamas and Why That Matters,"* aims to counter misinformation and encourage informed dialogue about the group. The project includes a series of webinars featuring scholars like Rami Ghurri, Aref Tamimi, and others. * *[**15:11**]* Cobban emphasizes the need to move beyond a solely humanitarian framework and engage in meaningful political discussion about the conflict. * *[**33:58**]* The conversation also touches upon the *shifting geopolitical landscape*, with the rise of China and Russia challenging US hegemony. * *[**36:33**]* Cobban notes that while China has criticized the situation in Gaza and defended Palestinian resistance, the impact of these global shifts on ending the conflict remains to be seen. * *[**36:41**]* The discussion highlights the *resilience of Hamas*, both militarily and politically, as evidenced by opinion polls showing increased support in Gaza despite Israeli attacks. * *[**42:59**]* The *International Criminal Court's (ICC) potential role* in holding both Israeli and Hamas leaders accountable is discussed, noting the US's hypocritical stance towards the court. * *[**51:11**]* Cobban posits that a more *multipolar world order*, potentially led by groups like BRICS, could offer a path toward a more just and equitable international system. * *[**55:58**]* The interview concludes with a call to action, urging viewers to learn more about Hamas, support independent media like The Electronic Intifada, and engage in activism to challenge the status quo. i used gemini 1.5 pro to summarize the transcript
Great interview! And a quick question: Where can I learn more about Hamas’ structure as a governing organization prior to Oct 7? I’ve heard that, like any government, they had a whole variety of civic and social responsibilities like trash removal, accounting, education, etc. But my internet searches don’t provide any useful information about this and I haven’t heard it discussed in Ms Cobban’s series yet. The Israeli state talks about destroying Hamas, but there were many in Hamas who had no part in the military actions of Al Qassam on Oct 7. I want to understand what the group looks like as a whole and have some knowledge to perhaps counteract this notion of Hamas as simply a terrorist organization.
Unhealthy societies are what happens, over time, when political sociopaths are afforded adult authority in a society. A political sociopath is someone who is willing to do harm to another for the sake of opportunity, social capital, hierarchy, profit and/or pleasure. Political sociopathy is a class of behavioral choices, not a diagnosis. People with a diagnosis needs treatment, which may mean some degree of sequestration from mainstream society is required. Yet, once it is determined that there are no physiological impairments to empathy generation other than choice, the responsibility is theirs within that circumstance, and that choice belongs to that individual. Hierarchy is a privilege creating structure that is sociopathic in its inception. Economic hierarchy being the most destructive to the society. Economic hierarchy exacerbates the distortion and misapplication of meritocracy. Hierarchy interjects competition into contexts where only provisioning is required. It detracts from the goals of healthy society creation with competitive conflicts of interest such as click formation, withholding knowledge and resources from the provisioning processes, and with the general distractions of conflict. It limits the flow of ideas that are being sifted through to find the widest value to the largest percentage of the population. Why? Because scarcity elevates perceived and sometimes actual value. This is particularly true for technical information and policy creation factors, generating erroneous gatekeeping behaviors. The rhetoric to tax the rich is not countered by the rich on its economic principles because it serves the rich in its distraction from how the rich embezzles from the public purse. Societies form to allow specialization such that provisioning can be done more efficiently and in greater volumes for all of its members. Healthy and holistic citizens advocate nurturing policies and will not begrudge resource usage with best practices procedures to see the nurturing done. The assumptions are based on the idea that whatever provisions are produced will be applied to the meeting of basic needs equitably. They are also based on the idea that everyone will have more time to focus on quality of life enhancements, equitably. But, most of all, although often unspoken, it is founded on the idea that the members who do not proclaim themselves political sociopaths with their actions deserve optimal autonomy and not just to simply survive. Individualism's self interest as a social ideology is born of political sociopathy affecting the efforts of society creation. The question then becomes; How do we limit political sociopathy? Why is this important? Because we know from history the sociopaths will band together and raid our productive achievements. We must defend ourselves from this either proactively or after the fact and we see how doing so after the fact is working out, so maybe we need to try something not yet attempted. We may want start by adopting a zero tolerance for political sociopathy in policy creation. All governance will descend into oligarchy, plutocracy and fascism at rates that are determined by the quality and stability of its consensus seeking strategies, the tolerance of bad faith actors in its processes, its best practices policies and the documentation of data that goes into the making of its policy choices. They cannot be compared outside that framework in regard to speed of that descent. Consensus seeking strategies are what create the possibility of a society. Anything less creates a war zone. As such these are the foundational topics of establishing a healthy society.
we are all Palestinians. The Fascists and Nazis will come for us next if we allow it. We literally are Palestinians. The people who ignore this genocide will one day find themselves oppressed.
Is it accurate/true fact & context that the US initiated sought-out, +ly encouraged/pressed/had to work hard to convince Hamas to run in the 2018 Palestinian election b/c Hamas had no interest in doing so? I think I heard of this in a few YT interviews, but I don't recall the sources. If anyone here knows of published resources that substantiate this as historical fact, & can spare the time to respond w/the sources, I will greatly appreciate it. Another aspect of those reports is that the elections were monitored by Jimmy Carter's organization & verified.
If we don't demonize Hamas, lets' not hero-ize or lionize them either. They held power through extreme violence and ideology and there is no reason to believe that will stop in the future. I am not a supporter of Isreal, but I have met women living in Afghanistan, Iran. It is gender apartheid. This will be Hamas as well. That is not from me - that is in the voices of the women living in those places.
Why are you ignoring the event that preceded and caused Hamas to make that decision and its subsequent decision to stop that tactic? Make no mistake about who is oppressing you.
zionist has DELIBERATELY since 1948 violating numerous International Laws and practicing apartheid, make no mistake who you are supporting. th-cam.com/video/NWkeDbhvpjw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=tKUZthg_Dl5aIFL6
Northern Ireland isn't occupied by Britain, they voted to remain British due to the long historical ties between Britain and Ulster. It's almost always had greater ties to Britain, more specifically Scotland, than the rest of Ireland. Due to SNP and EU interventions the division is growing and they're being pushed into the Republic
That's disingenuous of you. Catholics boycotted that vote in 1973, and because they have more children than Protestants they now have a larger share of the vote, especially when joined by non religious would preferred to stay in the EU. In another referendum Northern Ireland would vote to unite with Eire.
@@bethshebaashe777 the vote went through, it's not disingenuous. If it goes to another vote then so be it. Until then Northern Ireland is British and certainly not occupied.
@@naebhor6931 Well during the troubles the Army had regular checkpoints and patrolling the streets. The police force at the time was completely Protestant which led to widespread injustice. Whenever you have a people with a substantial population that doesn't want to be a member of your country we can consider them occupied.
@@bethshebaashe777 they can't be considered occupied when ruled by their own government. It makes them rebels. The troubles was a continuation of the existing war going back to the 20's or earlier and the British soldiers were fighting existing Nazi sympathisers. I don't disagree about injustices but it was the same on both sides, being Protestant in some areas made one a target just the same as being Catholic in another area made them a target. The English controlled Ireland before it became Ireland and even helped unify it. Before then it was a collection of petty kingdoms, later lordships under English rule then Ireland was partially unified. Ulster was always a distinct region, being one of the few kingdoms allowed to continue after the English takeover. Centuries later the IRA were formed which routinely attacked civilians and supported various foreign powers to fight Britain, including the Nazi's. The IRA and SNP are the same in that respect, both wanted to be the Nazi bastion in their country against Great Britain.
@@naebhor6931 Well they should have been allowed to go their way with the rest of Ireland! For shame man, England nicked all the food out of Ireland causing the so-called potato famine and 1 million dead. Let's talk about how England "helped" to unify it as you put it. When Elizabeth I was trying to colonize it after her mad Dad called himself the King of Ireland, she send 17,000 troops to Ireland to quash the rebellions of the Irish kings and the fields ran with blood. And when her savage general had slaughtered enough he sat in his tent, sipping his tea, waiting for the families to come and surrender to him. He had the heads of all their loves ones set on spikes either side of the path they were supposed to take to his door. It was that very bastard, a known sadist, that she sent to America and he scalped the Indians. May history forget his name. 1.5 million Irish Catholic peasants were starved or “put to the sword” while the English seized their lands, and under Cromwell another 600,000 died. These colonizers saw Catholics as little more than dogs and savages, and they spent hundreds of years trying to starve them out of existence. And you have the temerity to call that "help".
Thank you Electronic Intifada. Independent journalists with journalistic integrity are the heroes of our time.
Not everyone knows the Extreme amount of work that goes into EI here. Most of my small channel is simple... but still takes approximately 1-2 hours per minute... up to 6 hours or days on extended edits. EI has to do a lot of research and cross checking... Plus all the editing... Plus the paranoia of getting flagged by YT...
EI is excellent. 👍
@@meetings3071 100%
@@RAZR_Channel YT deleted my reply. I'm not sure why.
@@PerceivedREALITY999 It's the subject matter... Remember we are Perpetually Living in : 1984...
Thank you Helen Cobban and EI for this.
Wonderful interview with Helena Cobban..Thank you Electronic Intifada for the wonderful work that you do.
Love to see Helena! The "Understanding Hamas" series has been enlightening and useful.
Excellent analysis by Ms. Cobban.
Our Canadian ambassador to the UN continually uses the word Hamas as synonymous with terrorism. The ongoing starvation policy of Israel against children and women of Gaza is never called an act of terrorism. Just sayin...
We all know that the zionists are the terrorists.
they must be either dum, ignorant, or simpletons.. or, oh wait, bigots..
Very interesting, This lady has some really deep understanding that I found important to hear. Thank you
@svenhanson398
Yeah,...
Thanks Halena Cobban & E. I.
EI is vital, thank you so much👍
had the same conversation recently with a friend, ironically supporter of the palestinian. Helena is absolutely right on how condescending is to offer support with the condition of excluding Hamas, as if we could be a moral authority to their support for their main source of resistence. it's sad how much stereotypes of "radical islam" have reached into the public subconscious
The Ugandan river called River Kagera.
And we have a massive cemetery site for the Rwandan genocide victims, which people go and visit every year to put flowers on the gravestones.
They are indeed my favourite people too, I enjoy watching their articles, they are perfect
Most important today! ❤❤❤
Wow, this was fantastic. Helena is great.
It has persuaded lots of Israel's supporters who don't want to know the truth and pounce on anything that agrees with their mindset.
I have always wanted to know more about Hamas because we never get their side of the story, only western propaganda.
How can you understand a situation without hearing all sides?
Have you listened to read any of Prof Rashid Khalidi’s work? He’s a Palestinian scholar that’s well worth listening to. And some Israeli scholars tell the truth (and are threatened by the Israeli govt for it) - Avi Shlaim, Ilan Pappe, and a Jewish American - Prof Norm Finkelstein
Harvard scholar Sara Roy also published books on Hamas.
Such an important discussion.
Agreed,... 💯%.
Love your content! Thanks for this very important coverage!
Good work thanks commander
Been a while since checking in, so pleased to of. This was fascinating. It is fundamental to understand the seeds of any resistance. Soaked this right up, shall continue to follow your work.
Thank you for the talk, have just ordered your book, Helena. Youre fantastic, E.I. Crutial and forever enlightening in this moment.
Be well all and look after one another.
Long Live Palestine. ❤🇵🇸 🪶 Solidarity from Scotland.
Again, thank you Electronic Intifada and thank you Helena Cobban for your valuable work.
Understanding Hamas founding documents, yes, more of that please, the Charter, the 2017 Statement. Thank you
Another brilliant informative conversation. I've sent many in the direction of Helena's publications over the years THANK YOU ❤
It should be obvious to anyone that violence is part of any resistance to oppression. Examples in recent history in Ireland,Scotland and Africa come to mind. It's impossible to me to condemn them.
Thanks 😇 same here with me
Colonialists always accuse those they are oppressing with being violent brutes.
Thank you for this very important discussion.
Listening to people like this gives me hope on humanity!
You kill what you fear and you fear what you don't understand thanks for Helena
Superb interview! So very informative! Brilliant woman; Ms. Cobban.
Three favorite people! Love all of you ❤
Very good job, thank you !!
Helena is a mine of information. Thank you for this engrossing interview.
Very interesting guest, super informative as always. EI you have been so impressive and an incredible source of diverse information and context which has been so effective at countering the lies and propoganda pumped out by the perpetrators of this disgraceful genocide. I recommend you to anyone that will listen.
‘Seeing decolonisation in action’ - words that will never be spoken on mainstream imperial and post-colonial media channels
Every time I say something REAL about HAMAS, I get suspended from TH-cam.
#LONGLIVERESISTANCE
Me too 🙋🏻♀️
@@roubanashabe3490 ditto
Never give up 🎉😊
Helena should have no fear of ageism she is still obviously a firecracker 🧨 of a mind
Great cast as usual, Thank u very much.
Great guest Ms Cobban, I've seen some of her panel's recent videos and recommend watching.
I'm wondering why I never see anything from Alison Weir, any info?
18:20 'The form of the struggle of the oppressed is determined by the oppressor' ~ Nelson Mandela
Hroub meticulously analysed three of the Islamist movement's key post-Charter texts: Hamas's election platform, entitled ‘Change and Reform’, from autumn 2005; its draft ‘Programme for a Government of National Unity’ (March 2006); and the government platform presented by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh to the new Parliament on 27 March 2006. The researcher notes that Hamas has become a ‘profoundly different organisation’ from the one that emerged at the start of the first Intifada in December 1987.
In its texts, the organisation states that it is concerned with political freedoms, ‘including freedom of expression, of the press and of association’, ‘pluralism’, ‘separation of powers’ and ‘peaceful alternation of power’. But it is also concerned with ‘building a developed civil society’ and respect for the rights of minorities...
Not a single one of these documents has been widely circulated in the Western media and official circles.
I know… they are really very reasonable
Thanks Helena for holding the light to Ignorants.🙏
Great interview, I’m learning so much from this channel and authors to read.
Thank you
Thank you Electronic Intifada, you're doing amazing job
I knew I was going to be informed.I would like to hear more about what Hamas leaders/people are saying/organising.I'm going to listen to those Just World webinaires.
Great to learn about Just World and to listen to the driving force behind it.
Thank you for the work you do
Thank you for this discussion.
Thank you for your sustained attempts to cover Gaza and help us all understand the hows and whys.
How easy to accuse
without understanding
I agree 😮
westerners never admitted the crimes of colonialism not mention reparations so how do you expect them to understand the Palestinian resistance. To this day, they defend their role in civilizing the brutes and are not interested, except for a few, to face the truth with all the details. Don't except them to change unless you force them to face reality.
So Helena Cobban, this is amazing! I am a normal citizen but with a duty to be correctly informed given the transformational events in Gaza for the modern world. One thing that I cannot comprehend or find a meaningful answer is why People in Gaza do not deny Hamas, after 37'000.civilians were killed. I cannot agree with the logic that they agree with Hamas's very limited prowess and 0 protection they can offer the citizens. If I were Hamas I would conduct my mission out of the populated areas because I have no military possibility to protect the citizens I am fighting for. How can that be?
@14.40 Ali that is absolutely correct..thank you.
I will tell my future grandchildren about journalists like you, the intercept, gray zone- and the likes of Matt Lee - I'll say history is wrong when they rewrite this and once again say "No one knew, and those who did couldn't speak out"
This is what we're told in school in Sweden about the Holocaust, and I was so confused since my grandfather and other relatives, including relatives by marriage: told me from an early age that the camps were known. By the fascist leaders of Europe from the get go, by many citizens here very early on - since people did travel and 6 million people didn't "disappear" in "the fog of war" without massive notice. Fairly early on the camps and atrocities were broadcasted on state radio. And the protests and resistance they, my relatives and their parents and grandparents, engaged in, for which people spat at them.
No one cared, they weren't particularly against that at all, antisemitism was strong in Europe- the shock came with the death toll, and the stance against it came when the allies won
I'll be forever grateful for those stories my family told me, both for my sanity and for them letting me honor those who deserve admiration. So I'll pay it forward to my own grandchildren - It's a soothing thought, or it was for me personally, a welcomed effect when honoring the people who deserve it. Ive rarely raiswd my voice to my children at all, but in this house anyone who disrespects Aaron Bushnell will get a telling off and a lecture they'll never forget. Cause Aaron was, is and will always be a hero and one of the few of the west. Luckily my children shares that sentiment ❤❤❤❤❤
And of course all the brave journalists who were murdered by US weapons aimed at them by fascists during this, and the western journalists and others who lost their livelihood and more for speaking out. Our brave students, the Jewish people protesting this while getting 1930'ied by the same fascists who did that to their ancestors, and the ones who turned jews away when they fled the na sis
Please can you invite mahmood od to your podcast it would be fantastic.
i wanna know where people can get good cheap political books nowadays cos i noticed that my local libraries have fewer and fewer political books.. they claim its about popularity, but a library is a service not a book store.. its should be about popularity.. they should have a good, broad range of books on all subjects.. a library shouldnt be run like a business... all trashy novels. and when i used to try to buy books on amazon and other websites, what i noticed is that all the good books are rare and very expensive... when i used to read up on Communism or Anarchism for example, the cheap books might have a big red hammer & sickle on the front, but id quickly realise it was written by someone who hates communism and is trying to convince you to not like it too.. it would draw you to the book with a nice bright cover but you could quite easily see it was written by a capitalist who subtly or not so subtly is trying to convince you its bad.. most of the cheaper and newer books seemed to be like that... i had to get more expensive old books for an unbiased look at a subject. and i think companies like amazon are doing this on purpose.. ive noticed over the last decade or two its becoming increasingly more difficult to find truth about history and information on other ideologies that the state doesnt want you to know about
You expect someone else to pay for your political study -
jeez -
Thats entitlement for ya..
U bin living in welfare land way too long.
The internet
@tigrecito48 Try second hand book stores. You'll have more luck finding books reasonable priced. There a second hand book stores on-line.
@@margitwes6495 in my local area all the second and charity book stores all sell garbage books like celebrity biographies and trash novels.. i know cos i used to buy & sell books to raise money for a charity... most of the people in my area have very poor taste in books - and also from doing car boot sales etc. id probably have to go to a more open minded classy place to find interesting books
@@naradaian what an ignorant comment. I buy a lot of books but still one would like to know to buy them cheaper. It seems you have never-ending funds, good for you. That to me is entitlement screaming large
*Summary of "Why it's important to understand Hamas’s political wing, with Helena Cobban"*
* *[Start]* *Helena Cobban*, Director of Just World Educational, joins the Electronic Intifada to discuss the proposed ceasefire in Gaza, Hamas's role, and the shifting geopolitical landscape.
* *[**0:49**]* Cobban criticizes the *Biden Administration's diplomacy* as inept, highlighting a lack of experience among key advisors.
* *[**6:41**]* She argues that the proposed ceasefire, presented as an Israeli initiative, is actually a plan Hamas has agreed to for months.
* *[**11:22**]* The discussion focuses on the *demonization of Hamas* in Western media and politics, drawing parallels to similar tactics used against other liberation movements historically.
* *[**18:56**]* Cobban's project, *"Understanding Hamas and Why That Matters,"* aims to counter misinformation and encourage informed dialogue about the group. The project includes a series of webinars featuring scholars like Rami Ghurri, Aref Tamimi, and others.
* *[**15:11**]* Cobban emphasizes the need to move beyond a solely humanitarian framework and engage in meaningful political discussion about the conflict.
* *[**33:58**]* The conversation also touches upon the *shifting geopolitical landscape*, with the rise of China and Russia challenging US hegemony.
* *[**36:33**]* Cobban notes that while China has criticized the situation in Gaza and defended Palestinian resistance, the impact of these global shifts on ending the conflict remains to be seen.
* *[**36:41**]* The discussion highlights the *resilience of Hamas*, both militarily and politically, as evidenced by opinion polls showing increased support in Gaza despite Israeli attacks.
* *[**42:59**]* The *International Criminal Court's (ICC) potential role* in holding both Israeli and Hamas leaders accountable is discussed, noting the US's hypocritical stance towards the court.
* *[**51:11**]* Cobban posits that a more *multipolar world order*, potentially led by groups like BRICS, could offer a path toward a more just and equitable international system.
* *[**55:58**]* The interview concludes with a call to action, urging viewers to learn more about Hamas, support independent media like The Electronic Intifada, and engage in activism to challenge the status quo.
i used gemini 1.5 pro to summarize the transcript
Great interview! And a quick question: Where can I learn more about Hamas’ structure as a governing organization prior to Oct 7? I’ve heard that, like any government, they had a whole variety of civic and social responsibilities like trash removal, accounting, education, etc. But my internet searches don’t provide any useful information about this and I haven’t heard it discussed in Ms Cobban’s series yet. The Israeli state talks about destroying Hamas, but there were many in Hamas who had no part in the military actions of Al Qassam on Oct 7. I want to understand what the group looks like as a whole and have some knowledge to perhaps counteract this notion of Hamas as simply a terrorist organization.
Hello.. there is multiple book on hamas and its starting.. one is titled hamas : a beginers guide by khaled hroub. Best wishes. #Longliveresistance
Lmao fr avoid khaaammas son bs by druggy boi and oldie pedo file alan dershwitzh's coping kkhammmas to prevent your brain melt😂😂
@@ireally7548 Thank you
Unhealthy societies are what happens, over time, when political sociopaths are afforded adult authority in a society. A political sociopath is someone who is willing to do harm to another for the sake of opportunity, social capital, hierarchy, profit and/or pleasure.
Political sociopathy is a class of behavioral choices, not a diagnosis. People with a diagnosis needs treatment, which may mean some degree of sequestration from mainstream society is required. Yet, once it is determined that there are no physiological impairments to empathy generation other than choice, the responsibility is theirs within that circumstance, and that choice belongs to that individual.
Hierarchy is a privilege creating structure that is sociopathic in its inception. Economic hierarchy being the most destructive to the society. Economic hierarchy exacerbates the distortion and misapplication of meritocracy. Hierarchy interjects competition into contexts where only provisioning is required. It detracts from the goals of healthy society creation with competitive conflicts of interest such as click formation, withholding knowledge and resources from the provisioning processes, and with the general distractions of conflict. It limits the flow of ideas that are being sifted through to find the widest value to the largest percentage of the population. Why? Because scarcity elevates perceived and sometimes actual value. This is particularly true for technical information and policy creation factors, generating erroneous gatekeeping behaviors. The rhetoric to tax the rich is not countered by the rich on its economic principles because it serves the rich in its distraction from how the rich embezzles from the public purse.
Societies form to allow specialization such that provisioning can be done more efficiently and in greater volumes for all of its members. Healthy and holistic citizens advocate nurturing policies and will not begrudge resource usage with best practices procedures to see the nurturing done.
The assumptions are based on the idea that whatever provisions are produced will be applied to the meeting of basic needs equitably. They are also based on the idea that everyone will have more time to focus on quality of life enhancements, equitably. But, most of all, although often unspoken, it is founded on the idea that the members who do not proclaim themselves political sociopaths with their actions deserve optimal autonomy and not just to simply survive. Individualism's self interest as a social ideology is born of political sociopathy affecting the efforts of society creation.
The question then becomes; How do we limit political sociopathy? Why is this important? Because we know from history the sociopaths will band together and raid our productive achievements. We must defend ourselves from this either proactively or after the fact and we see how doing so after the fact is working out, so maybe we need to try something not yet attempted. We may want start by adopting a zero tolerance for political sociopathy in policy creation.
All governance will descend into oligarchy, plutocracy and fascism at rates that are determined by the quality and stability of its consensus seeking strategies, the tolerance of bad faith actors in its processes, its best practices policies and the documentation of data that goes into the making of its policy choices. They cannot be compared outside that framework in regard to speed of that descent. Consensus seeking strategies are what create the possibility of a society. Anything less creates a war zone. As such these are the foundational topics of establishing a healthy society.
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Am aware cause am in Uganda
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No power in this world will be able to defeat PALESTINE and Yemen. Our beloved prophet prayed for them predicted their victory.
we are all Palestinians. The Fascists and Nazis will come for us next if we allow it. We literally are Palestinians.
The people who ignore this genocide will one day find themselves oppressed.
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Well said. 🙏
Your prophet...I think that you are not happy, Rich, western leftist:):):)
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@@JanKowalski-gr9ey who r u? As a white revert.he is my prophet too. Peace and blessings be upon him.
Literally 1984
Just to remind you, all politicians are order-takers, not order-givers. That’s why they’re politicians.
I actually do not expect any better from the United States.
Is it accurate/true fact & context that the US initiated sought-out, +ly encouraged/pressed/had to work hard to convince Hamas to run in the 2018 Palestinian election b/c Hamas had no interest in doing so? I think I heard of this in a few YT interviews, but I don't recall the sources. If anyone here knows of published resources that substantiate this as historical fact, & can spare the time to respond w/the sources, I will greatly appreciate it. Another aspect of those reports is that the elections were monitored by Jimmy Carter's organization & verified.
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If we don't demonize Hamas, lets' not hero-ize or lionize them either. They held power through extreme violence and ideology and there is no reason to believe that will stop in the future. I am not a supporter of Isreal, but I have met women living in Afghanistan, Iran. It is gender apartheid. This will be Hamas as well. That is not from me - that is in the voices of the women living in those places.
17:47 (Hamas has made) "Decision to use _DELIBERATE_ violence against civilians"
Make no mistake who you are supporting.
Why are you ignoring the event that preceded and caused Hamas to make that decision and its subsequent decision to stop that tactic? Make no mistake about who is oppressing you.
zionist has DELIBERATELY since 1948 violating numerous International Laws and practicing apartheid, make no mistake who you are supporting.
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Hamas violence is a direct result of Israel's violence against Palestinian civilians.
It was p-l-o.. PLO
. lmao your hearing got hasbara'd too, 😳
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Obviously you'vevmissed @ 17:22 's of time stamp.
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do old people seem easily distracted witH nouns??
After "50 years"... one Should Know... It's ALL a Dog and Pony Show...
Without mentioning works by Professor Norton Finkelstein, you don't look as knowledgeable on the subject.
Oh do you mean my friend Norman Finkelstein?
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Northern Ireland isn't occupied by Britain, they voted to remain British due to the long historical ties between Britain and Ulster. It's almost always had greater ties to Britain, more specifically Scotland, than the rest of Ireland. Due to SNP and EU interventions the division is growing and they're being pushed into the Republic
That's disingenuous of you. Catholics boycotted that vote in 1973, and because they have more children than Protestants they now have a larger share of the vote, especially when joined by non religious would preferred to stay in the EU. In another referendum Northern Ireland would vote to unite with Eire.
@@bethshebaashe777 the vote went through, it's not disingenuous. If it goes to another vote then so be it. Until then Northern Ireland is British and certainly not occupied.
@@naebhor6931 Well during the troubles the Army had regular checkpoints and patrolling the streets. The police force at the time was completely Protestant which led to widespread injustice. Whenever you have a people with a substantial population that doesn't want to be a member of your country we can consider them occupied.
@@bethshebaashe777 they can't be considered occupied when ruled by their own government. It makes them rebels. The troubles was a continuation of the existing war going back to the 20's or earlier and the British soldiers were fighting existing Nazi sympathisers. I don't disagree about injustices but it was the same on both sides, being Protestant in some areas made one a target just the same as being Catholic in another area made them a target. The English controlled Ireland before it became Ireland and even helped unify it. Before then it was a collection of petty kingdoms, later lordships under English rule then Ireland was partially unified. Ulster was always a distinct region, being one of the few kingdoms allowed to continue after the English takeover. Centuries later the IRA were formed which routinely attacked civilians and supported various foreign powers to fight Britain, including the Nazi's. The IRA and SNP are the same in that respect, both wanted to be the Nazi bastion in their country against Great Britain.
@@naebhor6931 Well they should have been allowed to go their way with the rest of Ireland! For shame man, England nicked all the food out of Ireland causing the so-called potato famine and 1 million dead.
Let's talk about how England "helped" to unify it as you put it. When Elizabeth I was trying to colonize it after her mad Dad called himself the King of Ireland, she send 17,000 troops to Ireland to quash the rebellions of the Irish kings and the fields ran with blood. And when her savage general had slaughtered enough he sat in his tent, sipping his tea, waiting for the families to come and surrender to him. He had the heads of all their loves ones set on spikes either side of the path they were supposed to take to his door. It was that very bastard, a known sadist, that she sent to America and he scalped the Indians. May history forget his name. 1.5 million Irish Catholic peasants were starved or “put to the sword” while the English seized their lands, and under Cromwell another 600,000 died. These colonizers saw Catholics as little more than dogs and savages, and they spent hundreds of years trying to starve them out of existence.
And you have the temerity to call that "help".
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the limp and satisfied irish intelegensia 😂 cant run an air conditioner pinching pennies 😂
This channel incites terror
In what way?
@kefs
Like what? . . .
Decolonisation ?
Only to complete ignorants.
@@unknownuser11237 without lies islam dies btw
You mean the pathological liar nation of İsrahell?
Matt Miller Dracula
Agree with everything. she said.
Wonderful interview with Helena Cobban..Thank you Electronic Intifada for the wonderful work that you do.
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