Hi folks! Few have been asking about sizing so, for ref, I'm a Mr Average 5' 11"/182cm tall with a 32"/81cm inside leg and found the bike a really nice balance of being big enough to feel of substance but still confidence inspiring and stable at low speeds, and easy enough to paddle around. There were a few taller testers on the launch event who commented they felt a little scrunched up on it, so if you're much over 6ft and like the sound of the bike it might be also be worth trying the Scrambler 1200 for size, on the basis it has a similar vibe but will feel a bit taller and more roomy, especially for the XE version. Videos on both on the channel, links here... Scrambler 1200 X: th-cam.com/video/MUFLAi2eGvA/w-d-xo.html Scrambler 1200 XE: th-cam.com/video/ij8dxZdZ7V0/w-d-xo.html Hope that's helpful! Dan
Having a Trident as my previous bike, I just couldn't buy a bike this expensive with the same dash. I understand why they needed to add the digital dash to add an IMU. And creating a new dash would cost a lot of money. Personally, I think they should have used the dash from the Scrambler XE. It's still fairly retro and looks more premium
I've got a trident 660 and the dash fits with the price point of that bike. Fitting it to this significantly more expensive 1200rs feels cheap I don't think triumph will sell these, there now way too expensive
As soon as I saw the launch of this bike I wanted one (twin clocks dropped ball aside) so I've been eagerly waiting on an actual road review. So it's great that my old mate Dan, who seems to mirror my riding experience (mid life crisis) and objectives so closely pops up with the first ride review I've seen. You've described exactly what I'm looking for in a bike, but being impatient (and prudent) I've already PXd my ZX4RR for an older Thruxton RS as I was really struggling with the ~£15k price tag once I'd added the heated grips and Thruxton-like single seat. I'm in love with the Thruxton RS but will still be very keen to see this Speed Twin RS in the metal. I dare not test ride one as I really can't afford to trade up a second time. Thanks for the informative review 👍
@ Hmm, I’ve heard other people complain about gold forks. I don’t mind them on the Speed Twin personally but I agree they’d be out of place on anything with spokes wheels.
Really ? I even didn't notice it. I guess that the tradi dash makes more sens on the T120. Everyone has different tastes : I find this last version of the Speed Twin georgous
@@pierrelederrey6636 Yeah, I guess everyone is different. If it was overall the right bike for me it wouldn’t totally stop me buying it but I would have to, whether via a cheap bracket or an expensive mod, move the clock to a central location!
I`ve got a Mk2 in Orange and love it. Was mildly interested in the new one, until I saw what they have done with the styling. Blake 7 headlight, the tank lines don`t flow with the new side panels and why they dropped the twin clocks? Going to keep mine...
As an older rider who loves modern classics, has recently passed their test and worked up from a speed 400 to a trident I feel that this bike is aimed at me. It was my goal to end up with a Speed 1200 but now with that trident clock I will be looking elsewhere ☹️
Top of my list also. Looking forward to you review of Z900RS (ive tried it. much more 'eager' id say; the Z900 with a old fashioned hat on. Nothing like the character of the speedtwin1200)
Thanks for that, interesting what you say on the Z900RS and makes me want to try it even more. Always been high on the list of bikes I'd actually be interested in buying. Cheers!
T120 rider in Thailand. Good review and test😊. In 7 years I have upgraded much and it gets to go in all conditions, everywhere. Speed twin is nice but not an upgrade to my bike, for me. I do appreciate it is great for your personal preference 😊. I also subscribed.
Fabulous review…a really good perspective of a bike to be used by the ordinary everyday rider! ( with of course a nod to your obvious experience and competence in actually reviewing an assortment of bikes! 😉👍)…..dare I say, with what you appear to be looking for, then perhaps consider looking at the Honda CB1100RS which was dropped from the range in 2021…it has fab reviews and although lacking in more modern tech is still a good looking and now affordable classic racer style bike…just my tuppence worth matey…keep up the good work 👍😎
Now, lots of low mileage 2022 to 2024 models are popping for sale where I live (lots of them with aftermarket upgraded suspension..) for about 8 to 10g less than what this new model will cost. Thank you, Triumph.
This sounds like a comparison test between the Norton & the Triumph. I don't know how you can even mention those agricultural Royal Enfield's with the Triumph🤔
Im suprised, you haven't mentioned even once the XSR900, which you liked a lot. I think it's still a competitor, despite the fact it's more on the modern side of the "retrometer"...
@@DimaGT I was going to weave the XSR into the comparisons but, on reflection, it’s less modern classic and more just a modern with a round headlight! Still an amazing bike, but not retro at all.
I recently got 24 XSR900 and absolutely love it. He is right. It's more of a modern bike with retro styling. I'm 6'3 and 235 lbs and would say the XSR fits me much better. You are leaned forward more, but I like that as it gives a more sporty feel. And as it leans you forward you are off your tailbone which helps with numb bum
Enjoyed the review. Problem is, bolting nice bits onto a universal platform won’t bring the speedy up to the specialness of something like the outgoing Thruxton RS. Same price, so much less bike :/
I’m curious about the posts that state they wouldn’t buy it now because of the single offset clock!…if one likes the look and feel of the bike as a whole then aside from the minor tweaks, if I wanted twin clocks I’d buy the outgoing model!!..maybe tweak it myself with the cash saved! ..🤷♂️😉
@@NelisLamprecht I’m about 6ft and there was someone slightly taller who said they felt a bit cramped. Would recommend trying the Scrambler 1200 if you find the same - similar vibe but a bit more roomy.
Mmmm. I see the attraction but Triumph fudged its retro pedigree with that digital dash. Think I would consider the CB1000 first. 4 cylinder and looks retro.
I'm in two camps about this. One hand, it has mini muscle bike vibes. On the other hand, is it just a Thruxton RS? Which I would argue, looked miles better. Also, personal opinion. The graphics and colours are terrible. I had a Thruxton RS, that thing oooozed class. These. A swing and a miss...It has just moved to far away from the orginal Speed Twin.
I've not ridden a Thruxton so I'll defer to your experience there. Nor did we get to ride one of these with the optional clip-ons, which should in theory be close even if the Triumph guys were at pains to point out it's still not as extreme. I get the impression the official line is they need to protect the Thruxton's legacy on that score and this with the Cafe Racer pack is pretty much a new Thruxton in all but name. With you on the graphics as well, fine that they do them for those who dig the look but I wish there was a plain option as well for those that don't.
@midlifecrisismotorcyclist the Thruxton RS. I've owned everything from a zx10 to a Diavel, and currently on a Speed Triple 1200 RR. The Thruxton RS. Just felt special. I'll have a look at the Speed Twin at the dealership. I wonder if it's a better in the flesh situation.
"It's the soul and the way it makes you feel" and "I can't find anything to critique" all the while looking at the cheap offset dash that makes you 🤮 and not mentioning it once in the video. I guess Triumph promised you a good discount to overlook that bit... 👎
Each to theirs, it didn't bother me but I guess the focus on an event like this is riding with it and the more everyday stuff will become apparent on a longer test. Seems to have annoyed quite a few people though so I'll look at it again when I get longer with the bike.
Ill keep my continental gt i won't sell her. Had loads of bikes over 30 yrs and nothing makes me smile morre. Theese trumps are loveoy bikes but it looks like its soulless .
Oh dear. too expensive, awful off centre budget dash,cheap looking paint job and a more cramped riding position. Nope. The Kawasaki Z900 rs se is better and cheaper.
Good waffle 🧇. Despite the slightly bitter taste that some of the decisions leave, I still think they'll sell a lot of these. Also, I've never seen anyone using the connected ride on a video. Everyone says it's rubbish and it's a pain/impossible to set up.
Hi folks! Few have been asking about sizing so, for ref, I'm a Mr Average 5' 11"/182cm tall with a 32"/81cm inside leg and found the bike a really nice balance of being big enough to feel of substance but still confidence inspiring and stable at low speeds, and easy enough to paddle around. There were a few taller testers on the launch event who commented they felt a little scrunched up on it, so if you're much over 6ft and like the sound of the bike it might be also be worth trying the Scrambler 1200 for size, on the basis it has a similar vibe but will feel a bit taller and more roomy, especially for the XE version. Videos on both on the channel, links here...
Scrambler 1200 X: th-cam.com/video/MUFLAi2eGvA/w-d-xo.html
Scrambler 1200 XE: th-cam.com/video/ij8dxZdZ7V0/w-d-xo.html
Hope that's helpful!
Dan
I’m not yet at midlife, nor having a crisis
But still find this channel entertaining!
LOVE it, looking hard at buying one! If it had 15 more horsepower and dual clocks I would be at the dealership right now!
Having a Trident as my previous bike, I just couldn't buy a bike this expensive with the same dash. I understand why they needed to add the digital dash to add an IMU. And creating a new dash would cost a lot of money. Personally, I think they should have used the dash from the Scrambler XE. It's still fairly retro and looks more premium
Loved this Dan!!! Was ace to ride with you!
@@UsernameKate Likewise and thanks!
I've got a trident 660 and the dash fits with the price point of that bike.
Fitting it to this significantly more expensive 1200rs feels cheap
I don't think triumph will sell these, there now way too expensive
love the white of the standard bike
As soon as I saw the launch of this bike I wanted one (twin clocks dropped ball aside) so I've been eagerly waiting on an actual road review. So it's great that my old mate Dan, who seems to mirror my riding experience (mid life crisis) and objectives so closely pops up with the first ride review I've seen.
You've described exactly what I'm looking for in a bike, but being impatient (and prudent) I've already PXd my ZX4RR for an older Thruxton RS as I was really struggling with the ~£15k price tag once I'd added the heated grips and Thruxton-like single seat.
I'm in love with the Thruxton RS but will still be very keen to see this Speed Twin RS in the metal. I dare not test ride one as I really can't afford to trade up a second time.
Thanks for the informative review 👍
The only thing that irritates people who buy modern classics more than a digital dash is an offset digital dash! What were Triumph thinking.
They were thinking, yeah, let's give it a hideous gold fork too.....
@ Hmm, I’ve heard other people complain about gold forks. I don’t mind them on the Speed Twin personally but I agree they’d be out of place on anything with spokes wheels.
Yeah strange that there was no mention of that particular ugly bit in the review eh
Really ? I even didn't notice it. I guess that the tradi dash makes more sens on the T120. Everyone has different tastes : I find this last version of the Speed Twin georgous
@@pierrelederrey6636 Yeah, I guess everyone is different. If it was overall the right bike for me it wouldn’t totally stop me buying it but I would have to, whether via a cheap bracket or an expensive mod, move the clock to a central location!
I`ve got a Mk2 in Orange and love it. Was mildly interested in the new one, until I saw what they have done with the styling. Blake 7 headlight, the tank lines don`t flow with the new side panels and why they dropped the twin clocks? Going to keep mine...
As an older rider who loves modern classics, has recently passed their test and worked up from a speed 400 to a trident I feel that this bike is aimed at me. It was my goal to end up with a Speed 1200 but now with that trident clock I will be looking elsewhere ☹️
I have a triumph scrambler 900 which I adore, I don’t think I’ll ever part with it but if I can I’ll get one of these as well. Great review thanks!
Top of my list also. Looking forward to you review of Z900RS (ive tried it. much more 'eager' id say; the Z900 with a old fashioned hat on. Nothing like the character of the speedtwin1200)
Thanks for that, interesting what you say on the Z900RS and makes me want to try it even more. Always been high on the list of bikes I'd actually be interested in buying. Cheers!
T120 rider in Thailand. Good review and test😊. In 7 years I have upgraded much and it gets to go in all conditions, everywhere. Speed twin is nice but not an upgrade to my bike, for me. I do appreciate it is great for your personal preference 😊. I also subscribed.
Fabulous review…a really good perspective of a bike to be used by the ordinary everyday rider! ( with of course a nod to your obvious experience and competence in actually reviewing an assortment of bikes! 😉👍)…..dare I say, with what you appear to be looking for, then perhaps consider looking at the Honda CB1100RS which was dropped from the range in 2021…it has fab reviews and although lacking in more modern tech is still a good looking and now affordable classic racer style bike…just my tuppence worth matey…keep up the good work 👍😎
Thanks for the kind words, and I shall have to investigate that recommendation!
Some nice views of the Sierra Tramuntana!
Now, lots of low mileage 2022 to 2024 models are popping for sale where I live (lots of them with aftermarket upgraded suspension..) for about 8 to 10g less than what this new model will cost. Thank you, Triumph.
The clocks of centre to help you counter steer 😂😂😂👍👍
This sounds like a comparison test between the Norton & the Triumph. I don't know how you can even mention those agricultural Royal Enfield's with the Triumph🤔
Real bikes
Why is the clock offset from the center?
Because someone at Triumph decided ditching the lovely analogue clocks was a good idea. And they need to visit their GP.
everything is amazing except the dash
.....and the tank range.
Im suprised, you haven't mentioned even once the XSR900, which you liked a lot. I think it's still a competitor, despite the fact it's more on the modern side of the "retrometer"...
SInce you tested XSR900...
With your cash would you get this or XSR900? I am inclined with Yamaha more given price gap.
@@DimaGT I was going to weave the XSR into the comparisons but, on reflection, it’s less modern classic and more just a modern with a round headlight! Still an amazing bike, but not retro at all.
I recently got 24 XSR900 and absolutely love it. He is right. It's more of a modern bike with retro styling. I'm 6'3 and 235 lbs and would say the XSR fits me much better. You are leaned forward more, but I like that as it gives a more sporty feel. And as it leans you forward you are off your tailbone which helps with numb bum
Enjoyed the review. Problem is, bolting nice bits onto a universal platform won’t bring the speedy up to the specialness of something like the outgoing Thruxton RS. Same price, so much less bike :/
I’m curious about the posts that state they wouldn’t buy it now because of the single offset clock!…if one likes the look and feel of the bike as a whole then aside from the minor tweaks, if I wanted twin clocks I’d buy the outgoing model!!..maybe tweak it myself with the cash saved! ..🤷♂️😉
Exactly.
How tall is the rider in this review ? I’m 188cm or 6ft2 …wondering how comfortable it will be on longer rides.
@@NelisLamprecht I’m about 6ft and there was someone slightly taller who said they felt a bit cramped. Would recommend trying the Scrambler 1200 if you find the same - similar vibe but a bit more roomy.
@ Appreciate the reply, thanks
They took the Brembo M50s and sport mode away from the regular 1200 model. Strange move.
The no no's: dash, fuel tank size, single skinned downpipes.
Am I really the only guy who likes the monoclock? I think it’s killer.
Yep, you are on your own.
Cheap and nasty dash display, ruins the bike for me.
They stopped making the mighty thruxton for this shit!! Come on triumph!!!
Just use the pov from your helmet cam no need for the the other camera, we actually want to see the "ride" 👍
Mmmm. I see the attraction but Triumph fudged its retro pedigree with that digital dash. Think I would consider the CB1000 first. 4 cylinder and looks retro.
Deal breaker digital clock otherwise a perfect bike😁🙏
No mention of the disgrace that is the dash? Who wants a Trident/Tiger dash on their Speed Twin? Bring back the old clocks.
It’s not a huge deal for everyone 😂
the killer for this will be the new hornet 1000 at unbelievably low price
I'm in two camps about this. One hand, it has mini muscle bike vibes. On the other hand, is it just a Thruxton RS? Which I would argue, looked miles better. Also, personal opinion. The graphics and colours are terrible. I had a Thruxton RS, that thing oooozed class. These. A swing and a miss...It has just moved to far away from the orginal Speed Twin.
I've not ridden a Thruxton so I'll defer to your experience there. Nor did we get to ride one of these with the optional clip-ons, which should in theory be close even if the Triumph guys were at pains to point out it's still not as extreme. I get the impression the official line is they need to protect the Thruxton's legacy on that score and this with the Cafe Racer pack is pretty much a new Thruxton in all but name. With you on the graphics as well, fine that they do them for those who dig the look but I wish there was a plain option as well for those that don't.
@@midlifecrisismotorcyclistshow us the seating position
@midlifecrisismotorcyclist the Thruxton RS. I've owned everything from a zx10 to a Diavel, and currently on a Speed Triple 1200 RR. The Thruxton RS. Just felt special. I'll have a look at the Speed Twin at the dealership. I wonder if it's a better in the flesh situation.
Just one thing to say to Triumph, DASH ! YOU TWATS !
Gold forks are hideous.
"It's the soul and the way it makes you feel" and "I can't find anything to critique" all the while looking at the cheap offset dash that makes you 🤮 and not mentioning it once in the video. I guess Triumph promised you a good discount to overlook that bit... 👎
Each to theirs, it didn't bother me but I guess the focus on an event like this is riding with it and the more everyday stuff will become apparent on a longer test. Seems to have annoyed quite a few people though so I'll look at it again when I get longer with the bike.
Ill keep my continental gt i won't sell her. Had loads of bikes over 30 yrs and nothing makes me smile morre. Theese trumps are loveoy bikes but it looks like its soulless .
Oh dear. too expensive, awful off centre budget dash,cheap looking paint job and a more cramped riding position. Nope. The Kawasaki Z900 rs se is better and cheaper.
Clock 👎
Good waffle 🧇. Despite the slightly bitter taste that some of the decisions leave, I still think they'll sell a lot of these.
Also, I've never seen anyone using the connected ride on a video. Everyone says it's rubbish and it's a pain/impossible to set up.