Polka winning EVERY argument with Marine【Animated Hololive/Eng sub】
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2021
- [TL Note: This was tough because of a few terms. Marine literally said イチャイプ pronounced "ichaipu" which is a mashup of イチャイチャ ("icha icha", flirt) and スカイプ ("sukaipu", Skype), an older term for online flirting. Polka shot her down saying its Discord, not Skype.]
[TL: Another tough one. 「写メ」 (pronounced "Sha Me") is an abbreviation of 写メール (pronounced "Sha Me- Ru") which was name of a service provided by SoftBank for early camera phones, letting you send emails with image attachments. But the name became really popular and was used to describe all the competing services as well, and eventually to describe even phone pictures themselves or the act of taking them. Again, an old fashioned term.]
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There was a mistake, so I reuploaded it! Sorry!
No problem king
No problem, your animations are so good that this won't be a problem for us
It's all good c:
No se inglés... la animación y el dibujo es hermosa y eso me basta
What is said at 1:00?
Never argue with Polka
She's a clown that has lived throughout society
Whe all know how that end, she gives what the other deserves
@@anthonyrebuffo9509 **BANG SFX** (BUT THE ONE THAT’S NOT R18 OR ELSE HOLOMEMBERS WILL GET BANNED AGAIN)
69 eheh boi
*jester not clown
@@FirstDagger oh, I thought she was joker 😂🃏
I don't know much of these stuffs.
Thanks for the info.
Them: “Yahoo messenger.”
My brain: “Yagoo messenger.”
Hai...
It is now required for someone somewhere to make a meme chat application that uses Yagoo's hai as a notification sound
what have I become
sou desu ne...
I come from the year 2001 and I promise you it was Yagoo Messenger the whole time. Pinky promise.
POV: You’ve already watched this multiple times but its just too good
Yup.
Indeed
Ye
True
Yep … what am I doing of my life … xD
This was just an entire stream of Marine exposing the fact that she is in fact, a few seasons further in than just "17 Season 2"
I mean that would make her 34 which is more than old enough to have used Skype
@@XanderFenikkusu Or 27 - still fits with her knowledge.
I'm 23 and know all the stuff she's talking abt so...
@@XanderFenikkusu pretty sure her and Botan are 40 something
@@loserafis418 If I'm not mistaken Botan is the oldest, followed by Mio and Korone, Marine is 30 if I recall correctly. Last year during one of her streams she accidentally said she was almost 30, so assuming she was 29, she is now 30.
"what era do you live, using Skype?"
Maririn: **triggered boomber noises**
And here I am thinking AIM wasn't that long ago...
@@WinterCedar Holy shit
*THAT'S BOOMER AS FUCK*
@@j45p34 all around me are familliar faces
I mean… I started using Skype ever since I was 8 years old, and I was born in 2000. I have this pride of being in the group the oldest people born in this Century.
I felt personally attacked when she mentioned messenger.
Marine: I'm starting to hate you, you know
Polka: I like annoying girls
Marine: *ALL IS FORGIVEN*
Why there are no comments here ok I'll be your first
@@huyanhnguyen3721 and I will be the 2
@@_All0ne_ and I'll be the 3rd
@@TakayashiSatori and i'll be the 4th
@@halo12390 and I'll be 5th
Polka has the energy of an idol that's tired of being an idol but it's all she knows so she sticks to it
I'm not saying that's how she is, that's just the kind of energy she has
That's pretty spot on.
I have always wanted to describe Polka's energy and vibes. You just nailed it!
And Marine has the energy of someone who never was one.
Marine: "The Internet was too slow and expensive to make calls on back then!"
Polka: "Sounds like that was a you problem"
To be fair, it was slow and expensive for individual people, but there were T1 and T3 connections that companies were able to afford with the bandwidth required to theoretically make calls over the internet. Those connections costed thousands a month, and most companies would lease fractions of T1 connections, but a dedicated T1/t3 could handle the bandwidth. Most individuals had either dial-up or ISDN, so that sort of thing was out of the question, though I’ve spoken with people who actually had T1 in their homes back in the day.
Polka: "Skill issue lol"
Marine dates herself every time she opens her mouth.
Actively gains a wrinkle with every sentence
【 lmao, that was stupidly savage 】
It's not like anyone else dates her, so...
@@shinyhappyrem8728 selfcest
@@djjimmaster8261 Why isn't this a thin- wait what happens if I search for autosexual hen-
"Polka's smug aura mocks me. It's evil!"
- Marine probably.
I feel like 5th gen cares the least about who is "senpai" they clown on everyone. Honestly pretty based. I know seniority counts for something and I don't mean to insult a culture I'm not really a part of but I feel like Japan makes a bigger deal out of it than is necessary sometimes.
Standing menacingly.
@@pptemplar5840 I wouldn't say its just Japan, its pretty common to show respect to elders/seniors in a lot of cultures. Not to say that 5th gen clowns on their senpais because they don't respect them but the way they show respect is different.
@@anri8986 Yeah I get that, maybe I just perceive it being treated as a bigger deal because of the constant use of honorifics, and it's just more because of how the language works. I'm not ignorant to the idea that I may be somewhat ignorant in this.
@@andoryus I have the forbidden knowledge, but honestly all of 5th gen is pretty smug, I especially liked it when Moona accidentally called Botan senpai and teases Towa.
I'm convinced Polka is using only 10% of her true power at any given time
If anyone else has trouble following "An online argument":
Polka argues that slang tends to change over time, with old terms falling out of use to be replaced with new ones--especially when it comes to tech slang.
Marine tries to bring up cases where the *first example* of a slang term sticks indefinitely, even when the specific reference becomes dated.
1:18 -- Marine brings up "sha me" (see TL notes), thinking it's a case where the first widely used photo sharing app becomes lasting slang. Polka shoots this down; that term is out of favor too.
1:24 -- At first I didn't get why Polka brings up Yahoo Messenger, but it's meant to counter Marine's main premise. If the first app to let you do something becomes the basis for the relevant slang, why wouldn't Messenger be the word, since Messenger predates Skype?
1:33 -- Marine says this isn't a good counterexample because unlike 写メール or Skype, Messenger didn't catch on for making calls. It may have been first, technically, but in practice it wasn't used widely enough to become slang.
2:00 -- Polka pulls some rhetorical trickery here. She tries to demonstrate that Marine is contradicting herself, because the only people who'd complain about Messenger being unusable would still be on the internet, so obviously the internet itself wasn't prohibitively expensive. That doesn't actually counter Marine's point, though, because it's completely possible for bandwidth to be good enough for text griping, but not good enough for quality voice connections; and either way, it doesn't speak to the question of whether Messenger was ever popular enough to enter the conversation as slang for voice chat. Unfortunately, Marine is too flustered by now to notice the misdirection, and instead thinks Polka is making an unfair demand for data on e.g. Messenger's lack of market penetration.
tl,dr: These two are super clever, and there's a lot of unspoken argument going on! Marine's thesis is weak, but Polka wins in the end mostly by riling Marine up.
being annoying is an art of it's own that can amlow you to control your surroundings.
Thanks for breaking it down like this! Not gonna lie I was kinda lost on what they were arguing about
Wow I just gained a lot of respect for their intelligence
Thank you sir you're a godsend
An in-depth look like this means at least some people are paying attention, even if Marine isn't
If someone made an actual Hololive anime in this style or similar, I would watch every single episode.
same
Huh?what about holograf?that's their hololive anime official
@@Satan-xm4cg That anime is…..how do I explain, insensible.
@@Satan-xm4cg yeah but this is slice of life while hologra is NICHIJOU STAMP OF APPROVAL slice of life
@@-hello6177 there is 2 channel that i follow,make art similliar like this,one from jp but good thing they had english subtitle,and other one from en bros
The irony of the one who’s supposed to be a clown turning out to be the heckler is too perfect.
Jesters often play both roles.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Remember, back in the day the jester was the only one who could mock the king in public and live to tell the tale.
@@korsekil Need to tell the king some bad news?
Make the jester do it.
He can lighten the mood by telling the king the enemy may have sunk his ships but the men who did were not as brave as yours to go swimming in the waters.
Don't mess with the clown if you can't take on the whole circus
0:42
The part where Polka does the "sad croak" gets me every, single, time. 🤣
2:17 Polka is such a smooth operator
The “sad croak” got me good.
Yes it got me too, and "ar-gument won!" 🤣🤣
That feels like something I would've done with my friends lol
@@finsenuzumaki1596 I love that part
@@finsenuzumaki1596 🙏Hai✊Rom🖐️Ba
I still sad croak whenever I am faking being let down.
Polka is such a Chad. She inserts dominance over bottom-left Marine.
if it was anyone other than Marine I would insist that you correct "insert" to "assert" but with Senchou it somehow fits lol
@@Phoenix0F8 I meant it to emphasise it. She doesn't just assert it. She inserts it deep into Marine's subconscious mind, so in the future she knows who's da boss around here. 😎 I'm not a perve, I don't right filthy comments under any Marine-related video or post. I right something smart or coltured. But you're kinda right yeah. We're talking about a girl who owns 3 "massagers". I mean, that's what they are, but she surely doesn't use them the intended way. 😂😂😂
But Marine is kinda smart, she’s incredibly sharp, can read situations real fast, and can make proper decisions quick. If anything, she feels bottom-right compared to most of the other members.
@@KiyanPocket There's always a bigger fish. It's rock-paper-scissors situation. While Marine dominates most of the members, she gets dominated by Polka another alpha female, that dominates way less than Marine. Also dominance as nothing to do with smart. It's about confidence, strong aura and being Chad. While Marine dominates most, I can't consider her as a Chad. But I've never seen a clip of Polka where she's not sure, or being Beta.
@@odyseasthalassinos3427 Okay but marine is still not on the left
Marine: "I'm young and with the times!" Also Marine: "Ya'll remember Yahoo Messenger during the dial up internet days?"
Marine is based if she used Yahoo Messenger
@@rikustorm13 AIM, Yahoo, MSN... she probably had 'em all.
I wanna have a beer with Polka, damn.
She just feels like a fun person to be arround.
That, plus the story of how she really helped Nene out when she was in a tough spot.. Polka looks like the best kind of friend to have.
@@Daymond42 She's the best kind of clown. UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE!!! *cough*JokerandPennywise*cough*
God, I love Polka. Based clown even gets her seniors cornered.
Yep she's the veteran after all.
If it weren't for the traditions of Vtubing, Marine might have been the one referring to Polka as senpai.
She truly is a gyaru. It was some real whiplash to discover but now I think it is so.
To be fair, Marine is...Marine
I think we can all agree that Polka's nature is attractive
The "Aggressive arguer" type. Definetly one people go for.
i like that type of woman
@@ehehehehehe9661 the one we want but the most annoying to have
@@dalanding3391 amen
@@dalanding3391 Amen
Not gonna lie, Polka is so verbally skilled she can probably talk anyone against the wall. Don't be clouded by the clown and circus, her speech skill is unmatched in Hololive IMO.
The worst part about becoming a boomer is letting the boomer mask slip. It's awkward talking casually and pulling the modern equivalent of your parents calling any video game a 'Nintendo tape.'
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH its fucking true
Sorry to date you, but that was a thing? People calling video games “Nintendo tapes?”
Blame it on the rain that was slowly falling.
@@Treviisolion Dude, my grandparents got me "Atari games" for every birthday and Christmas. Even when those games were actually for the Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Playstation 2, etc...
@@endlesswanderer1753 Those things are now collectables, mate. some ppl willing to spend grands for them
Marine: "I remember back in the Skype and Yahoo Messenger days..."
Me: "Oh, right. 17 *Season 2* "
I mean, I remember Messenger and I'm 20 years old XD
@@quroi7211 is it not a thing anymore? What do people use nowadays for personal video calls? Messenger is still pretty popular where I'm from
@@shyecharis7582 Discord all the way. Zoom's only used for 'formal' calls (class, meeting, etc)
@@shyecharis7582 facetime
When did yahoo messenger even get voice functionality?
Marine isn't wrong most people were on dialup for a long time and voice chat wasn't practical.
I know I never saw it, because I and everyone I knew was using skype by the time it was.
Even as late as 2007 if people really needed voice chat for games they used apps like ventrilo.
2:03 She was so smug that she channeled the power of the rabbit
Polka and Marine are probably the two best improv comedians in Hololive. They bounce off others really well.
I like how others get over-powered by Marine but Polka is just like "..so what?"
She managed to out yandere Korone.
Even Korone got nervous.
That's the "ok and?" power~
Nene, botan or suisei are probably the only 3 people left that might be able to stop this clown 🤣
@@raimyonlinewarrior236 Sauce?
@@lolcall5295 Only Flare can defeat the clown both physically and emotionally, evidenced by Polka getting pushed into lava by her while she was trying kill Nene lol
Remember when Skype was popular?
Houshou Marine Farms remembers
cries in internet not good enough for ts3
I was like 7 or something?
I remember using Skype! Its what we did before Discord and it was terrible!
I remember
My childhood
It's been 8 months and I still go back to this one every so often
It's a great animation
1:27 Polka was so ready to drop the biggest "U boomer" ever
Damn Polka and Luna would make a good job annoying the shit out of people
Imagine them hosting a podcast type show together
@@namoin88 Some people like to watch the world burn.
Carefull with youre wishes. Some things are best left alone friend.
@@namoin88 What if Pekora and Haachama joined them too?
Nice idea lol
You can hear Marine aging in real time as she tries to explain yahoo messenger and the internet "at that time."
They're so good at bouncing off of each other, it makes their conversations super enjoyable to listen to
0:28 I love how much of an insider joke this is considering polka's past.
What about her past
@@ThatGingercosplayer Polka has been in the VTuber scene longer than Sora. I think the Polka persona is her third persona so far. The joke is that "Polka" is Marine's junior despite being far more experienced in the industry. It is also the reason Polka doesn't collab as much, because it is like Ian McKellen slumming at the neighborhood theatre and then just deciding to stick around.
The laugh says it all, the veteran laugh
Pretty cool fact
@@ThatGingercosplayer As a veteran VTuber personality she collabed and helped out Sora when she was struggling in the beginning in 2018.
"Polka destroying Marine with Facts and Logic!"
Hundreds of pirates hate this fennec for using this method.
I guess fennecs don't care about your feelings
And a little of CROACKS
Gotta say it again love the animation and face expressions was on point!
Polka’s such an entertainer man. Any clip with her in it is comedy
I love the fact that the more she speaks trying to win the argument, the more she exposes her age and that she is an auntie haha
Hah, their chemistry is so good. It’s like two working adults shooting the shit at the bar after work
They both are adults, Polka is younger but she's quite mature too.
Marine is also mature even though she like to act cutely and "young-like"
@@rekoxx346 They're both mature in a sense. Polka is mature because she's been in the vtuber industry for quite a long time (even predates sora), while Marine is mature in the business world as evidence of her super complex use of the japanese language (you need this, if you are working in the business world at japan) hence why she is so outgoing/extroverted to every people she meet.
These two are so amazing together. They should really do a weekly talk show. This conversation was so animation worthy. I watched it like 10 times already. Thank you.
Look up "SKDW #11"
1:38 that MU was so cute
I return to this video day after day, I can't escape how captivating Polka is, she wraps people around her finger and toys with them so easily.
The boomer "17" year old pirate Vs the Chad circus fennec
17 years in each limb
Polka's mindset is simple but genius. She clowns or she clowns YOU.
the animation sure as hell made it funnier. Have a sub mate.
Always an automatic playback when everytime I see this on my recommended feed. #GreatVibes
Senchou is indeed a boomer who are still using Skype
>Boomer
>Skype
ICQ wants it's audience back.
I would still use MSN Messenger if Microsoft didn't decide to kill it.
@@rinslittlesheepling1652 my parents used ICQ. I used mIRC
@@lordofrims Man, the day Messenger died really hurt. I lost all my online friends and never managed to find them again. But I guess that's how life goes, one day everything has to end.
@@lordofrims I used mirc to play dota allstars (warcraft 3 map) with my buddies
1:06 it's amazing how little of this conversation flows
Like, every sentence was a non sequitur but they didn't care
ahhh, This clip, it all started with this clip, and then, down the rabbit hole I went, can't believe it was over a year ago
Polka, at the end of any argument:
"GG's shake my hand."
It’s amazing how fast Polka reset their conversation when it was getting heated
"You flirting with me on skype~?"
"Ma'am this is Discord"
2:32 okay that's the most smug laugh I've even heared of my life
The facial expression just made this so much better, thats talent if I've ever seen any
The way Polka sits there, plus how she controls the conversation makes me imagine Polka's basically got Marine by a bunch of strings as if Marine is a puppet.
...something tells me Marine would find a way to enjoy that
"the internet was more expensive back then"
oh senchou, never change.
I’m back here again after Flare talked about how much she loves this animation the other day. I’ve watched it at least a dozen times lol
Oh my god I thought marine being old was a joke until I heard Skype
I mean, she's only in her late 20s.
She's not the oldes though... a certain dog, wolf mother and certain lalion even if they don't sound like it, and not to mention our dear dragon.
@@lordofrims wouldn't that also apply to a certain fox since she was classmates with said wolf mama
@@lordofrims Pretty sure dragon is 22. Kson Onair birthday stream at 6:00
@@derrickmiles5240 3502 dragon years gives 35+02 = 37.
Marine has such unique dynamics with everyone, it's great. Also love how she went from "You are annoying me" to "You like me?~"
I would pay to see these two start up their own podcast as a side gig. Something about the way they speak to each other feels really natural and relaxed.
I love this one. Marine and Polka are so fast with the retorts. It is a beautiful thing to watch.
Its cute how Marine would always tease someone when she gets the chance, but her- getting teased is just- 🥺❣️
Their chemistry is unlike anything I've ever seen
Polka has such a great way of speaking! Confident, energetic, a bit dismissive.
The "Hm? Hm? Hm? Hm?" gets me every time.
Real ones were here before the re-upload 😎
There was a mistake, so I reuploaded it! Sorry!
@@kai_en8684 was about to tell you polka disappeared for a frame lol
@@kai_en8684 No need to apologize! Thank you for the great animation and translation!!
You can practically taste the chemistry. This was basically a marriage proposal.
I like the detail of Marine's hair ribbons being so expressive, like how they go down when she's losing the conversation
this is not arguing , this is flirting.
"A girl that's a pain... But I like a girl that's a pain in the ass"
"Huh!? what...? So... you like me?"
"Yeah, I guess so"
_You've been hit by, you've been hit by_
_A smooooth criminal_
You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a SUS PORUKA
Polka knows where to hit, that's for sure.
@@wilsonso5784 tbf, Marine can be hit in a lot of places
The facial expressions here are just amazing. Polka is a force to be reckoned with.
I really love the way you captured their expressions. I have watched this video multiple times since you posted it but really the timing and subtle aspects of their faces is just top notch. Thank you so much for this animation.
I don't know how many times I've watched this since it was uploaded. I love this style so much.
It seems you missed Polka's first line in the "An online argument" scene, but as always, this is a great animation. Marine and Polka is a combo I never thought could be so entertaining, but it really makes sense.
This looks like Polka is the senpai and Marine is the kouhai lol.
How the tables have turned 😂
If you count experience Polka out experience even Sora.
Thank you so much for this clip. I just love it. I've been watching it over and over again
I have watched this video at least 10 times by now. The animation style is adorable, the subtitles are great, and I just absolutely love this clip from her stream
So happy to finally see Polka in one of these! You handled the expressions perfectly again and it’s always great seeing your content! Thank you for your hard work!
Polka is the epitome of built different.
No matter how long it's been, this absolutely makes my day every time. The expressions and banter are so perfect.
I have been literaly watching this everytime it shows up in my feed and I realize how great the chemistry between this two. Great animation btw.
You can feel the era gap in this one
Even Marine cant beat Polka's flirting skills, she been trained too well by SOCIETY
This is one of the greatest clips I've ever seen, the animation is incredible. Really well done!
Not sure how often I have watched this clip or reposted it to friends. But man is it funny. I love it so much. Such a great conversation combined with your animation. *chefs kiss
Imagine Marine saying YOU'RE the creep.
I like how they talk to each other,Its really funny and fun.
I love your animation so much. That's really good, I can't stop watching to it
I especially love this animated version because it come across as two friends just fucking around
I love these animation, you do such a good job mixing the humor and cuteness of the expressions every time!
If I knew what they were even talking about that time I would've laughed my ass off like I did watching this video. This was hilarious, thanks.
"(sad croak)" is so good
この二人のやり取り本当に好きです(*´ω｀*)
Honestly gen 5 have the highest average "speech" skill among holomemb
The Translation is fantastic and so is the animation. Ty Kai!
I need more of Polka in this style it's so good!! Great work ❤❤
its soo cleverly well made, love how you capture the scenes and actually made em better
Polka clowning on Marine. *chefs kiss*