Starlink & Ham Radio - WaveTalkers LIVE 118
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- Starlink & Ham Radio
Please Join Us this Sunday for WaveTalkers LIVE: Episode 118
This week the WaveTalkers crew deploys a portable Starlink system and connects it to our Tactical Winlink Gateway. We demonstrate sending Winlink traffic using VARA FM into the gateway and watching it get relayed out via Starlink. This system blends high speed data with the flexibility of ham radio operators in the field.
Learn how to set up a Starlink system and discover the reality of running Starlink in the field.
We have heard many people asking if Starlink is going to replace ham radio and Winlink. Join us this week to see what an integrated system looks like to maximize the effectiveness of Starlink, Amateur Radio, and Winlink.
We will wrap up Episode 118 with an after party for all of those joining us in the Zoom. Due to the ongoing response efforts related to Hurricane Helene, please DO NOT Send a Winlink Check in this week, instead, let us know in the chat on our TH-cam page if you have used Starlink and what your experience has been with that system.
Starlink & Ham Radio (Episode 118)
October 6, 2024
1pm Pacific / 4pm Eastern / 2000 UTC
73!
Chris Mattia de W6AH
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Great demos, as usual! I learn so much from these! Thinking about needing to change settings (computer and radio) when switching to say Digirig -- is that something that you could use the SD card for -- either on radio or computer or both? I know some who share HF radios save their settings on the SD card so whoever is operating goes to "their" setting and the radio is configured the way they want. Please know how much the community appreciates the time you spend putting these together and editing -- and then addressing the "challenges" and ways to cope with them as well.👏👏👏
I suspect the settings you are referring to saving on the SD card are the radio settings. Those would be unique to each radio or model of radio. for instance on my Icom radios I save a preset for Winlink Settings, one for ALE, one for Voice, and one for FT8. Changing the Preset can tweak things my modulation mode, filter widths, what gets routed to USB vs data port, etc.
The challenge we ran into was changing from RA board to DigiRig. in that case we had to change settings inside of VARA FM and Windows Sound control panel. To my knowledge there is no way to seamlessly automate those setting changes when changing from one interface to another.
I was fortunate enough to get to join Chris, Dan, and David for this particular field test. As always, I learned a lot by watching them set up and work through the technical issues that came up. They are an amazing team. And just in case it isn’t obvious from their videos, I’ll say that they work hard to do these kinds of field tests and bring us the lessons they learn.
Thrilled to have you on the Team @LoganKD6LLB
Awesome video and great testament to Winlink with that pic at the end. I was in Bay St. Louis a couple of weeks after Katrina with a Southern Baptist DR Comm Unit. Winlink HF was our email link to rest of world. Very reliable and even when I couldn't hear the gateway, the Pactor modem delivered!
The Pactor modem is really impressive. Winlink via HF is so cool in its ability to pass traffic out of the disaster zone. Strong work with the support after Katrina. 73!
This video is a great example of how critical prior planning, training, and communication within the team is for mission success ….
Thanks @michaeldavidheit
Great show... as usual! Thanks guys!
@@yv6eda thanks!
Very good! I just went through Hurricane Milton! I am in Fort Pierce! We were VERY Lucky! Our ARES was holding nets every 4 hours! I sent a VHF Winlink in the storm! I will tell others of your work! 73 W4DES
Glad to hear you made it through! Stay safe. Strong work to you and your team! 73 Chris W6AH
This is awesome!
Just got Starlink standard and fired it up and tethered my digi voice hotspot and was active on Dstar. I was able to sync my Android as well. Did this today. I have a Starlink Mini ordered as well. I live in Florida and my wife is from Western North Carolina. It's a no-brainer for us.
@@bobave2463 we were really impressed with the Starlink system. Really curious to try the Mini, that looks awesome.
@WaveTalkers it comes in Tuesday. Really looking forward to seeing it work. The speeds are incedible.
@@bobave2463 let us know how it goes!
i've been building a starlink mini gateway for emergency deployment. Have had no problems with the starlink.
The Starlink mini looks to be an awesome product and much lower power draw then the Standard panel we had access to.
Great real world program. I was at a function in September where we were given a Starlink to use. No instructions, delivered day of event so there was no time to practice. It had a password that was not provided. We finally boxed it up and went to plan B.
Regarding the equipment heat, that was interesting. I wonder if that why marine radios are painted white? I know for a bike ride event they made a foil covered shield for a radio that had overheating issues. Maybe I need to throw in a roll of aluminum foil in the go kit.
Sorry I missed the Zoom call, we had a SAR mission. We also noticed RFI as well during the day. 73
The overheating issue certainly proved to be an issue and made me think about things like painting gear white, heat reflective coverings, fans, etc. Simple shading earlier in the deployment and ensuring good air flow feels like the right place to start.
Interesting that there was a password on the Starlink. The unit we borrowed had a password on the app so we couldn't change any settings or get realtime data about what the unit was seeing, but it automatically handed off an IP address so we just used that and didn't worry about configurations.
Looks good
@@theccieguy thanks
Great content . Thanks and 73! W5GLS
@@w5glsgary919 thanks!
Why did you the larger power pole connectors on the batteries? Looking to do similar connections on my RV coach battery. Thanks
Those are the PP that came on the model of these batteries and I haven't changed them.
We are using Starlink for one of our remote offices in South Texas. We have learned that the business class is a more stable connection compared to the residential class. The business class has less than .5% pack drops and guaranteed low latency. The residential class can drop packets up to 40%. There is a monthly and equipment cost difference between the two service classes.
@@TriNguyen-hl8oz that is really valuable information. Thanks for sharing.
“Son of a gun. That’s a Ford _____ Ranger!”
And it still runs pretty well
@@WaveTalkers Of course!
I help step up Star Link Gen3 standard for my best friend in his RV. Got it for $299. The Gen3 uses Cat 8 cable with 568B ends.. It came with a 50ft. I made a custom 100ft. They both worked was getting about 300 to 500 MB download speed.. Just need northern horizon clear.. He is able to use his laptop, phone, network printer at the same time. The setup was Star Link as a Wan to his RV WIFI router. Use it from Alaska, through Canada, to Kansas.. Was able to watch TH-cam and Netflix and other steams.. It was way better than cellular if we had cellular service. The Gen 3 does have an internal heater for snow.. Didn't run into any snow...
wow $299 is a great deal. The overall system is really impressive and we are really looking forward to getting our hands on a Starlink Mini to put through its paces and ultimately use in the field for deployments and exercises.
Good to see ham in the filed with recovery. You need the Starlink app will give you amazing tools to play with. I -power my go kit with a yeti 3000.73, from W7EMW….good luck
Yes, the Starlink App is excellent. This unit was on loan to us. We did have the Starlink App but since it wasn't our account we couldn't access the data for this panel through the app.
The Yeti 3000 is a nice self contained unit.
Thanks for watching, 73 W6AH
Everyone needs to run a speed test, give it at least 15 min to get best performance
I would love to join an organization like this to provide communications in disaster areas.
We do the show each week and doing more field exercises all the time. We are mostly based in SoCal so many of our activities are in the area. If you sign up for our mailing list at wavetalkers.com/joinus.php you can join us for the after party. 73 W6AH
Check with your local amateur radio clubs and individuals. Most clubs should have information on how they aid their communities.
The Civil Air Patrol offers beginner COM training and SAR opportunities.
Really wondering if the Chameleon TDL is worth it as a NVIS Antenna. Trying to find a fairly easy NVIS antenna. Thoughts?
The TDL works quite well as an NVIS antenna and is super fast and easy to deploy with a fairly small footprint. We used the TDL on our Solar Powered Gateway we deployed at the Baker2Vegas race.
Be aware you do need a tuner for the TDL
@@WaveTalkers can you recommend any other easy NVIS Antennas?
@@dougdukes1039 We use a variety of NVIS antennas and try to select the best antenna for the situation we find ourselves in.
When we first arrive on scene we will often deploy either a magloop (CHA F-Loop 3.0) with the double loop to get on the air fast and begin passing Winlink traffic. even at 10W I can easily hit gateways out up to about 500 miles away.
The TDL allows for a bit more power depending on the matching unit.
Both of these are really good for small foot print and fast,
@@dougdukes1039 After that we typically deploy something like an EmComm II or EmComm III, the Tactical Dipole, or perhaps the LEFS antennas. All of which are just bigger and take more time to set up. But all are quite effective at NVIS.
Vertical antennas can work but are not very good at NVIS. Wires, closer to the ground do a better job, but use what ever you got and simply figure out how to make it work for you.
I cannot find those specific Bioenno 12V 60Ah batteries on their site. Are those discontinued?
@@cbernad it looks like the current 60Ah they are carrying looks more like the 80Ah we have.
Huntington Beach RACES setup an AREDN mesh system with use of Starlink to provide camera and ip phones at 2 remote airport for the Pacific Airshow. All data feeds came back to the command post and to the Airbox on the beach to provided real live data on the staus of the airplanes. We used Starlink gen 4 with AC power along with a battery back up. deployed starlink mini to the airports with use of Goal Zero. Starlink mini is going to be a game changer in the future cause of the use of DC power to power the unit.. Download speeds 100bps on Gen 4 and the mini.
Nice setup! Did you uplink the video from AREDN to an outside service using Starlink?
We have done similar setups for marathon support where IP cameras push their feeds via AREDN into a central node, then those feeds are piped into a Zoom call so Race Officials can monitor key locations at the race. We used load balanced hot spots as our gateway for uplinking the videos.
@@WaveTalkers we pushed all the video back to a server running Blue Iris at the eoc Used web address to view the video over the internet. All the video ran over AREDN and starlink was our gateway out. This year was test for the use of starlink as a gateway. Over the years we have done the samething with the airshow to tunnel back into the eoc with AREDN to provide video and phone using hotspots and an internet feed from the AirShow sponsor. As this was all test with starlink. Our primary coms were still radio via our local repeater.
Cool
@@KY4TRK Thanks!
@@WaveTalkers I didn't know what more to say for now.
@@KY4TRK What did you find most helpful in the episode?
@@WaveTalkers I have older equipment so like a icom 705 or one of the newer ones I'm not able to do hf winlink. Telnet is about all I can do for now. I have some older kantronics kan 3 but don't have the right cables for what radios vhf/uhf I do have or other issues with not having the cables for the kenwood tm-d700a with the DB9 on the front of the radio to DB9 to USB or a DB9 gender bender... just heald up with with no money for parts right now tell I get my SSI going...
@@WaveTalkers what I fill is missing in a lot of this is, not every one has the latest and greatest equipment and some of us have icom 706, 706mII, 706mIIg, icom ic-7000, to kenwood / Yeasu older models HF Rigs or VHF/UHF radios. A lot of folks forget in laying out the parts for making everything work, modems link the kantronics VHF/UHF to HF and the connectors and cables needed... it's easy to deploy when you know what is needed to make it work. I'm talking out side of the newest latest and greatest usb radios. Let's dial it back to a little older school affordable off the eBay/Ham sale site's rig setting Up for making it work. Elmering...
HF / VHF / UHF via the Yaesu FT991A
@@michaeldavidheit excellent radio.
P3 Solar a lot cheaper than Power Film and waterproof
Would be interesting to check them out and see how they compare.
It looks like your starlink router is turned off.
@@bhamptonkc7 it was on and operating correctly.
@@WaveTalkersreview time 9:06
@@bhamptonkc7 what are you noticing that seems like the router is off?
There seems to be general confusion here, the thing that keeps being called the router is only a power injector as these radios can run at high current due to the onboard heaters, the IP bridge is the radio itself and the Wi-Fi device is the router which splits out to many addresses, allows command of motorized radios and isn't present here that I see.
Seems I'm unable to comment on the parent thread as TH-cam chat is broken so I'm posting this here as it's most relevant to the actual devices.