I'm new to beekeeping, this is so exciting. Trying to learn as much as I can from American beekeeping, European and Japanese beekeeping. It's amazing to see the different processes and so. But one thing is for certain all beekeepers care about the honey bees. ❤ 🐝 🍯 It's always lovely to watch the way you tell us a plethora of information that only comes from experience. Thank you for sharing this with us. ❤
Thank you for your kind comments. I can still remember the all consuming passion and joy of my early days with the bees. It’s called “ bee fever” for a reason. 😆
Nice operation. Always wanted to try some heather honey. That uncapper is really neat and the extractor with the baskets swing to obtain tangential extraction is the first I’ve seen. Thanks so much for sharing!!
Thank you for your interest. I believe there are only 3 honeys in the world that require loosening followed by tangential extraction:- 1. Heather 2. Manuka 3. Kanuka (a close relative to manuka)
It does sell for a premium but not as great a difference as once over. The real hard work is moving the bees ( especially onto the moor as they have supers on ) and removing the crop.
Yes you’re correct it does but we use a large spatula to stir the honey and lift the wax from the base of the filter. A poor and antiquated system that needs updating.
It’s recommended to change brood combs every 3 years and I do what I can but some of them see longer than that. I don’t date mark them so honestly don’t know how long they’ve been in use. I try to remove old comb if possible in spring but the bees are often ahead of me and have brood in them. I can sometimes remove old comb as I do Demaree type splits. Winter dead outs are also a great opportunity to remove old comb. Thanks for your interest.
I use electric fan heaters Paul. Not good enough on so many levels and it needs improving. Quite how is the question. If I was starting a room from scratch and in a big way I think I’d look at an independent boiler and hot water pipes under a mesh floor. Unfortunately I am where I am.
@@swaleshoney Thanks Trevor, I was going down the route of electric heater of some form, but not sure . Would like it to be used as a barrel room too, so needs to be pretty substantial. Underfloor/grid is a good idea. Difficult to know what to do sometimes, we manage how we can in either road 👍🏻
I wouldn’t upgrade that loosener but motorised ones are now available. I have repeatedly tried both ways round with the frames in that extractor and it seems to make no difference to the efficiency. Sometimes it can vary depending upon how I pick the frames up.
@swaleshoney mind you, you have a very long cycle time. We run 4 minute cycle on manuka. However i have no idea with heather. Our old extractor we couldn't put frames in backwards, so you got used to doing it one way.
It depends on how good the crop is and consequently how full the boxes are. I have had boxes average 10lbs/ box but with a heavy crop that average can be 25 lbs/ box. With 40 boxes on a pallet an average of 16 lbs would yield 640 lbs - almost a barrel.
Great to see the process Trevor well done 👍
Thank you for your kind comments.
Another fascinating insight. Very interesting. Thanks again Trev 👍👏👏
Thanks for watching it Lorna. I appreciate the comments.
Good video, much appreciated and not enough Heather honey processing videos by anyone
Thank you Peter. I’m glad it was of interest to you.
That's a great video. Thanks for sharing that. No nonsense straight forward explanation. Once again. Thank you
I do try to keep it simple but still get into a knot sometimes.
@@swaleshoney don't we all. 🤣🤣🤣
Yes enjoyed that one. Very informative. No heather around here so it was great to see how it is done.
I’m glad you found that interesting.
I'm new to beekeeping, this is so exciting. Trying to learn as much as I can from American beekeeping, European and Japanese beekeeping. It's amazing to see the different processes and so. But one thing is for certain all beekeepers care about the honey bees. ❤ 🐝 🍯 It's always lovely to watch the way you tell us a plethora of information that only comes from experience. Thank you for sharing this with us. ❤
Thank you for your kind comments.
I can still remember the all consuming passion and joy of my early days with the bees. It’s called “ bee fever” for a reason. 😆
Nice operation. Always wanted to try some heather honey. That uncapper is really neat and the extractor with the baskets swing to obtain tangential extraction is the first I’ve seen. Thanks so much for sharing!!
Thank you for your interest. I believe there are only 3 honeys in the world that require loosening followed by tangential extraction:-
1. Heather
2. Manuka
3. Kanuka (a close relative to manuka)
@@swaleshoney interesting…thanks!!
@swaleshoney kiwi beek here. Kanuka doesn't need loosening like manuka. However aussie jelly bush might (aussie manuka).
Thanks for sharing 😊
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Great video explanation of working with heather honey 👍 Thank goodness my bees can’t get to any heather 😃👍🇬🇧
It’s a wonderful honey but a little difficult to work with. Heather honey in the comb is possibly the best honey in the world.🤔
Nothing better than heather honey
Thanks Benjamin. I totally agree, it’s a wonderful product.
Great video, I hope you fetch a premium for Heather honey, with the need for specialized equipment and all the hard work to extract it.
It does sell for a premium but not as great a difference as once over. The real hard work is moving the bees ( especially onto the moor as they have supers on ) and removing the crop.
Розпечатувальний станочок дуже цікавий. The opener is very interesting. 🐝🐝🐝✌✌✌🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Thank you. I’m glad you liked it.🇺🇦
If you had your extracting room and the frames at 35c or 95f temp would the heather honey be a flowing liquid or still a hard to remove jelly?
I honestly don’t know. I suspect it would still be a gel but at that temperature I think the main issue could be combs collapsing.
Interesting.. I had read that heather honey required tangential extraction, but I did not know about the need for a loosener.
Hi Graeme, yes it needs agitating otherwise it won’t move.
That must block the filter up a lot. How do you keep the honey flowing through the filters?
Yes you’re correct it does but we use a large spatula to stir the honey and lift the wax from the base of the filter.
A poor and antiquated system that needs updating.
Did you not have to uncap the frame first?
I think most people do uncap first but we never have. We filter the wax flakes out but we do need to improve our uncapping and wax handling process.
Can i ask how many seasons you would get from thise supers before changing the foundation.
It’s recommended to change brood combs every 3 years and I do what I can but some of them see longer than that.
I don’t date mark them so honestly don’t know how long they’ve been in use.
I try to remove old comb if possible in spring but the bees are often ahead of me and have brood in them.
I can sometimes remove old comb as I do Demaree type splits.
Winter dead outs are also a great opportunity to remove old comb.
Thanks for your interest.
Hi Trevor, what are you using to heat your warm room?
Just building ours at the minute, but not decided on heat source yet
I use electric fan heaters Paul. Not good enough on so many levels and it needs improving.
Quite how is the question.
If I was starting a room from scratch and in a big way I think I’d look at an independent boiler and hot water pipes under a mesh floor.
Unfortunately I am where I am.
@@swaleshoney Thanks Trevor, I was going down the route of electric heater of some form, but not sure . Would like it to be used as a barrel room too, so needs to be pretty substantial.
Underfloor/grid is a good idea.
Difficult to know what to do sometimes, we manage how we can in either road 👍🏻
Yes we do but it always seems to be a compromise. Never quite right somehow.
Manual loosener, that looks tiring. Compressed air upgrade?
Any reason some frames are put in the extractor backwards?
I wouldn’t upgrade that loosener but motorised ones are now available.
I have repeatedly tried both ways round with the frames in that extractor and it seems to make no difference to the efficiency.
Sometimes it can vary depending upon how I pick the frames up.
@swaleshoney mind you, you have a very long cycle time. We run 4 minute cycle on manuka. However i have no idea with heather. Our old extractor we couldn't put frames in backwards, so you got used to doing it one way.
@@tweake7175 The long cycle time is to allow gradual honey removal from both sides and so prevent comb damage. Some do collapse anyway.
Doses a pallet of supers make a barrel of honey?
It depends on how good the crop is and consequently how full the boxes are. I have had boxes average 10lbs/ box but with a heavy crop that average can be 25 lbs/ box. With 40 boxes on a pallet an average of 16 lbs would yield 640 lbs - almost a barrel.