The best investment I’ve done is the Auto Tamp we purchased from you. The staff love it, all of them Product the same quality espresso. Training staff is so much easier now as the hand tamp is difficult for some. Great video again Jimmy
A very informative video once again. Definitely one of the very best coffee channels on TH-cam! We can feel years of experience; not just a typical gear review. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for the feedback. I don't really like talking about what I don't know, it really shows I think. Making lots of coffee and working with this equipment is something I've done in many coffee shops over the past 18 years so I'm comfortable talking about it, glad that comes across. We're just keen to share our knowledge and help the coffee community. Cheers Jimmy
100% agree. I've got a puq press mainly because I liked having one in the cafe I worked at. One thing I hate about it though is how the controls are on the side of the thing. Put them on the top so I don't need to leave additional room on the side to reach the buttons.
Yep, design fault for sure. I like the puqpress but I've not bought one for a while now the Cinoart Auto Tamper has the controls on the top and the coffee doesn't stick to the tamp every time. Just saying..
I went for a job trial yesterday and at first when I was put behind the coffee machine, I internally groaned at the manual tamp (and manual grinder). I haven't touched a commercial machine in a few months and at home I have the distribution tool which is also a tamp and I use a naked portafilter. I always had trouble with manual tamp 😅 I found myself to not always be putting enough pressure and I found it more awkward to tamp at the edge of the counter because of the spouts of the portafilter. Sometimes I don't get the bed even as well when I tamp. The grinder was just another personal headache because I always found it bothersome to work with compared to the ease of an automatic one. I feel like I lose a lot of time and embarrass myself a little in front of customers when I'm fussing over and trying to fix what I knew I did wrong in my technique. But it showed me how relying on the automatic tools etc doesn't really do anything for my skills. If I strip them away I obviously wouldn't make consistent coffee and wouldn't be a good barista. I did end up being offered the job thankfully and will be given further coffee training 😊 and it's a slower-paced cafe on a quiet street so I'll use the opportunity to practice and master using the tools I have instead of blaming them. I decided to think of it as I can't buy a technique/skill like how I've bought tools at home to do the job for me. Learning is free. Practicing is free.
Thank you for sharing this story. With all of the new technology, we do loose touch of the techniques that add to our skills as a barista. I'm lucky enough to have started making coffee 18 years ago, so manual tamping was my only option and a skill I had to master. Doesn't mean that I'd be giving up my auto tamper any time though 😅 Glad you got the job, they must have seen the potential and your attitude for learning is the best you can have. All the best with it. Jimmy
I did a test between a really uneven, as well as a really even shot. I tasted both, and even the slightest amount of tilt in the grounds caused the uneven one to be FAR bitter and tasteless than the other.
Thanks for amazing videos,I have learned so much in a such short period. My question is would you recommend Chinese made auto tamp ,they are just on the market now around £300 British. What do you think Thank you
Agreed, thanks for adding this. Watching this video back just now, I realised how pro auto tamper I was. This is because of my time in cafes doing +30kg per week, I should have mentioned these for the home users. Thanks Peter Jimmy
Thanks for this new video, I would love to have your thoughts on push tamper, I use the La Marzocco one at home and we have same results if it’s my girlfriend or me using it. This is less expensive than a automatic one so it can be a great solution for many of us? Thanks!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, a push tamper will help alleviate some of the variables I mentioned and would be a far more cost effective option, especially for a home setup.
Slightly off topic, although a auto-tamper is my next purchase. I have a Mahlkonig K30 in my coffee trailer and I often do 400 - 1000+ cups a day at events and festivals and a Anfim Sp2 (I think that's what you guys use in your Café) in my small, not so busy coffee shop. I find the K30 produces a lot of static, have to constantly make big adjustments throughout the day and very inconsistent with it's dose but is very quick, just over 5 seconds for my desired dose. The Sp2 is só consistent, beautiful grind distribution and no static to speak of, but it takes just over 8 seconds to get my dose. My question is, in your opinion, would you recommend I swop the grinders around for the sake of consistency and cleanliness vs the 3 seconds I save per shot (on 400-1000 shots, 3 seconds can add up quickly) or just close my eyes and purchase like a E65 GBW, which is a huge investment. I'd appreciate your professional opinion and feedback
Thanks for the comment Raymond, I know exactly where your coming from. Yes, we use Anfim's in our cafe, however the newer models are an SP2+ and they come with better burrs that out of the box start at 5.8 second grind time. You may want to look at replacing / upgrading your burr set to regain those seconds. I've got a customer with an E65S. Beautiful grinder, 6 second grind time. We don't have any of the GBW in our cafes, I've been told they don't handle volume very well so I haven't been game to spend the money for high volume accounts. I would do some more research and talk to suppliers about their capabilities. In short, get new burrs for your SP2, swap the grinders and report back. Thanks, Jimmy
Classic, hand tamper still wins as being unbeatable for that ‘feel’ and overall experience where you feel like you are totally in control. Easy tampers have their place too, so do auto tampers but the latter are more for high volume coffee shops and commercial environments.
The best investment I’ve done is the Auto Tamp we purchased from you. The staff love it, all of them
Product the same quality espresso.
Training staff is so much easier now as the hand tamp is difficult for some.
Great video again Jimmy
Always great to get such good feedback from one of our cafe partners. You've now got a great setup in your cafe and your staff are killing it.
A very informative video once again. Definitely one of the very best coffee channels on TH-cam! We can feel years of experience; not just a typical gear review. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for the feedback. I don't really like talking about what I don't know, it really shows I think. Making lots of coffee and working with this equipment is something I've done in many coffee shops over the past 18 years so I'm comfortable talking about it, glad that comes across.
We're just keen to share our knowledge and help the coffee community.
Cheers
Jimmy
100% agree. I've got a puq press mainly because I liked having one in the cafe I worked at. One thing I hate about it though is how the controls are on the side of the thing. Put them on the top so I don't need to leave additional room on the side to reach the buttons.
Yep, design fault for sure. I like the puqpress but I've not bought one for a while now the Cinoart Auto Tamper has the controls on the top and the coffee doesn't stick to the tamp every time. Just saying..
I went for a job trial yesterday and at first when I was put behind the coffee machine, I internally groaned at the manual tamp (and manual grinder). I haven't touched a commercial machine in a few months and at home I have the distribution tool which is also a tamp and I use a naked portafilter.
I always had trouble with manual tamp 😅 I found myself to not always be putting enough pressure and I found it more awkward to tamp at the edge of the counter because of the spouts of the portafilter. Sometimes I don't get the bed even as well when I tamp. The grinder was just another personal headache because I always found it bothersome to work with compared to the ease of an automatic one.
I feel like I lose a lot of time and embarrass myself a little in front of customers when I'm fussing over and trying to fix what I knew I did wrong in my technique.
But it showed me how relying on the automatic tools etc doesn't really do anything for my skills. If I strip them away I obviously wouldn't make consistent coffee and wouldn't be a good barista. I did end up being offered the job thankfully and will be given further coffee training 😊 and it's a slower-paced cafe on a quiet street so I'll use the opportunity to practice and master using the tools I have instead of blaming them. I decided to think of it as I can't buy a technique/skill like how I've bought tools at home to do the job for me. Learning is free. Practicing is free.
Thank you for sharing this story. With all of the new technology, we do loose touch of the techniques that add to our skills as a barista. I'm lucky enough to have started making coffee 18 years ago, so manual tamping was my only option and a skill I had to master. Doesn't mean that I'd be giving up my auto tamper any time though 😅
Glad you got the job, they must have seen the potential and your attitude for learning is the best you can have. All the best with it.
Jimmy
I did a test between a really uneven, as well as a really even shot. I tasted both, and even the slightest amount of tilt in the grounds caused the uneven one to be FAR bitter and tasteless than the other.
It's crazy how much of an impact it can have hey. Good to hear that your tasting the coffee to do this test.
Thanks for amazing videos,I have learned so much in a such short period.
My question is would you recommend Chinese made auto tamp ,they are just on the market now around £300 British.
What do you think
Thank you
EazyTamp, Normcore, HappyTamper and Bravo all offer hand tampers that’ll give you a consistent pressure with a perfect level :)
Force Tamper aswell!
Agreed, thanks for adding this. Watching this video back just now, I realised how pro auto tamper I was. This is because of my time in cafes doing +30kg per week, I should have mentioned these for the home users. Thanks Peter
Jimmy
Thanks for this new video, I would love to have your thoughts on push tamper, I use the La Marzocco one at home and we have same results if it’s my girlfriend or me using it.
This is less expensive than a automatic one so it can be a great solution for many of us?
Thanks!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, a push tamper will help alleviate some of the variables I mentioned and would be a far more cost effective option, especially for a home setup.
Slightly off topic, although a auto-tamper is my next purchase. I have a Mahlkonig K30 in my coffee trailer and I often do 400 - 1000+ cups a day at events and festivals and a Anfim Sp2 (I think that's what you guys use in your Café) in my small, not so busy coffee shop. I find the K30 produces a lot of static, have to constantly make big adjustments throughout the day and very inconsistent with it's dose but is very quick, just over 5 seconds for my desired dose. The Sp2 is só consistent, beautiful grind distribution and no static to speak of, but it takes just over 8 seconds to get my dose. My question is, in your opinion, would you recommend I swop the grinders around for the sake of consistency and cleanliness vs the 3 seconds I save per shot (on 400-1000 shots, 3 seconds can add up quickly) or just close my eyes and purchase like a E65 GBW, which is a huge investment. I'd appreciate your professional opinion and feedback
Thanks for the comment Raymond, I know exactly where your coming from.
Yes, we use Anfim's in our cafe, however the newer models are an SP2+ and they come with better burrs that out of the box start at 5.8 second grind time. You may want to look at replacing / upgrading your burr set to regain those seconds.
I've got a customer with an E65S. Beautiful grinder, 6 second grind time. We don't have any of the GBW in our cafes, I've been told they don't handle volume very well so I haven't been game to spend the money for high volume accounts. I would do some more research and talk to suppliers about their capabilities.
In short, get new burrs for your SP2, swap the grinders and report back.
Thanks,
Jimmy
Breville Oracle have an auto tamp mechanism - any comment on how that stacks up with these 1000 buck units?
For home at least the Bravo tamper with a spring action is consistent pressure.
EazyTamp is made in Melbourne, Australia and also gives you consistent pressure every time with a level plate to ensure perfect tamps every time.
Yeah I neglected to go into the range of higher quality hand tamps. Another video coming then...
Classic, hand tamper still wins as being unbeatable for that ‘feel’ and overall experience where you feel like you are totally in control. Easy tampers have their place too, so do auto tampers but the latter are more for high volume coffee shops and commercial environments.
Problem is they need make 53mm auto tamp so I use one with my la spaziale s2 single group
I know you can buy this size for a puqpress, not sure in the cinoart sorry
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters I can not find a site in USA sales them with 53
Here in France, they tamp by pushing the PF up against a pad…. It’s terrible