QUICK TIP. You can remove the "This creature is immune to this type of damage!" messages with the help of some mods. I know Patcher has a feature called "Compact Chat" which condenses all the messages into 1 line, and LabyMod has a special Chat Filter that lets you filter out the messages entirely. I've tried to write out how to do this about 6 times now but TH-cam keeps deleting my pinned comments so sadly you'll have to figure it out yourself or contact me through a different means
@@ModernSoldier great vid btw, but i cant even properly do f2 with it? got the armour, the reforges, the sword, sheep pet? is there anything else im missing?
@@naanu4090 There could be, but I'd need to look at your profile to get a better understanding of what you might be missing. TH-cam keeps deleting my comments everytime I mention "discord" though and I don't want to keep using these TH-cam replies ;/
so we're just gonna ignore the wand of atonement, florid zombie sword, level 100 leg sheep and cata 12 that he's using? combined with the survivability of a MAGE???
Let's also not forget that he was soloing f1 and f2. In a normal party of 5 people, you won't have to do all the work for yourself, and blessings will only increase your damage and survivability. Overall, it's a really good mage setup for its price
This is very true! I didn't include it in the video because it takes 30 minutes to do, but I have soloed F3 with the exact same setup as well. If you are using a full team it's going to be much easier and much more efficient, I just went in solo to show the capability on its own
One small note about it being hard to upgrade from wise armor before storm, if you have a decent cata lvl you can probably get a comp with a party in 3/4 necrolord and shadow or wither goggles, making it viable enough imo, I actually did that and it worked very well
I forgot to mention, wither goggles and around cata 30 to 32 makes spirit sceptre do more than enough damage for it, and you can always go for yeti sword instead for even earlier use
at around 7:08 when the "norm clearing" is, can we appreciate how much florid zombie sword + wand of atonement use is required, AGAINST SOME BASIC DUNGEONS MOBS?! dont go mage, I've done it and it's painfully bad for early game
Superior will help you alot outside and inside dungeons as superior can live on inside dungeons once starred and can actually be compared with sa as superior will have wayy higher ehp and you can also use superior with beserk/archer/mage very good set!
If it worked for you that's great, this video is just supposed to showcase another alternate option that people may not have considered before. I'm personally using what's in this video on my Chaos Profile and it's worked wonders to solo all of the floors so far (I'm up to F6, and can definitely solo it with a little practice)
I'd recommend getting a Voodoo Doll no matter what class you use, but this set up is awesome. In fact Voodoo Doll would work great with the pseudo weapon lock situation. Thanks for the video!
@@ModernSoldier np. I used to do Wolf Slayer 4 just with a Mana flux power orb, Mastiff armor and a Shaman sword, so when I got the Doll for dungeons, I decided to try using it on the boss. Literally speed it up so much.
i have full set wise dragon armor and a enchanted frozen scythe, should i continue with frozen and upgrade it into glacial or should i go for superior set and aotd ?
Superior is not early game esp with renowned in short its 42k zealots per piece. So around 294k total zealots for renowned and superior, if you get NO DUPES WHATSOVER.
hey, i just have a general tip. If you dont have sup armor and different armor, i rec to use aotd and dreadlord. As if you are fighting a miniboss with lot of other mobs nearby use the dreadlord to clear mobs and then use AOTD to kill miniboss
@@ModernSoldierr jujunons may not know much about the game but they can at least contribute better than "aotd nons" so don't kick jujunons from your party
if you have 30 mill you will probably have a f5 compleation and then you can get full sa and a livid dagger wich will do more damidge and probably is about the same price
It does a lot less DPS and has less EHP, Superior is much stronger than you thought. Also assuming that 30m = f5 completion is silly too, because on my chaos profile I had around 50m before I even touched dungeons.
Idk if this vid talks bout ironmans but if you don't , its as expensive to go 3/4sa juju and you won't change armor until F7 and the weapon can carry u though mm floors ( need good skills & mp to be really efficient )
I don't really cover ironman since it is a bit niche, but this is very true. Superior is roughly the same cost as shadow assassin (usually it's cheaper, but not by much) and it has more EHP but a little less damage. Works extremely well for everything including F7, though I think it starts to fall off in M1. Ideally you swap to Necron armour after you get your first F7 completion though, so it's really only used for the first clear, or until you can afford Necron.
Ive told people about this ages ago and even recently now that im further along, and everyone said "Mage Superior is stupid" [I SCOFF AND SPIT IN THIER GENERAL DIRECTION!]
I mentioned this too! Wise works fine though it can be a bit squishy and harder for some players to use. I just want to bring the superior setup to light as it's a little bit pricier, but provides way more EHP which might make it easier for some people to survive in F1-3
Great video! One question tho: Wouldn’t it be better to use the wise/necrotic reforge for the armour as you get more intelligence which means more ability damage?
For raw damage, yes, but renowned gives you better ehp, speed and other stats. It stacks really nicely with the superior set bonus too which is why I recommend it. Reforges are more of a preference thing so it just comes down to what you want I guess I should mention this too, but ancient/fierce is the better option for LCM damage
I have something like 3/4 wise drag + shadow goggles + bonzo staff and it is way cheaper (3m+100k+4m) and I have no money for upgrades that I can buy :(
I always used the spirit sceptre with wither goggles (before nerf) with 1/2 necromancer lord & max perfect chestplate with sheep pet, fixed the problem of defence but still my intel was a bit missing. Would've been good to know this strat in earlier floors though lol
I got a 3/4 5* perfect armor Tier XII with shadow goggles also 5* also all armor parts have 10 hot potato books each, the shadow goggles are smart, the perfect chestplate is pure, the perfect leggings are necrotic and the perfect boots are giant reforged. (All armor pieces have wisdom 3) My weapon set up consists of a legendary glacial scythe 5* 10 hot potato books on it as well as 5 fuming potato books and the sharp reforge also it has apart from a few others enchants also ultimate wise 5. I also carry an AOTE for teleports only cuz the damage sucks but it has also ultimate wise 5. I carry an artisanal shortbow with me just for the blaze room and my third weapon is the AOTD to keep enemies on a distance if I'm in a bunch and can't think fast enough with the scythe I use the ability dragon rage in a circle around me to push them away so the knockback is actually helping me. It also has 5* 10 hot potato books, it has the fabled reforge and ultimate wise 5 too. Then my other equip is just a bunch of decoys if I'm doing F4, a radiant power orb, Superboom TNT, a defuse kit, spirit leaps sometimes 1 or 2 dungeon pots and ofc my dungeon orb. Although I can also use my orb ability with my weapons but the dungeon starter guy wont let me ready up until I got an orb in my inventory and I don't want my mates to wait 30 seconds or so just cuz I got no orb in my inv. My base stats in dungeons are somewhere between 2700-2900HP, 2900-3100 Defense and 2000-2200 Mana. I go through F5 like ez except for the boss fight cuz my glacial scythe doesn't do like 1m dmg per hit. F6 mobs are more of a challenge and the boss fight is just above my level and skill. If the bats are focused on the decoys I can even carry F4 with it, I must admit it's pretty hectic but I can do it.
Also says you can obtain it without ever having done a dungeon before. Meanwhile having withered and ancient in the intro, and recommending using loving. Can you please explain how to get these reforges without doing dungeons.
You don't need to complete the dungeons to use the reforges, you just need the mining level. If you're an ironman player, use Renowned (or fierce/wise) before you can get Loving, then swap the chestplate reforge to Loving. Ancient I'd not recommend until later game LCM if you want to specialise in LCM, though Necrotic I would recommend for RCM if you don't want to use Renowned.
I thought about correcting it in the edit (my editor wrote the 1.2b, not me), but I figured it doesn't matter because this video will become outdated eventually and the main point is to show "the hyperion is too expensive"
You can remove it with specific mods, and I might actually do that myself at some point... It gets to a point where you completely ignore it though so I don't see it as a big deal, especially if the setup is as strong as this one. In fact, I'm editing this comment now to inform you that I cleared it from my chat just now... Thanks I guess lmao
Ok, but leg sheep, combat level, cata level, enchanting level, alch level AND TALISMANS!! all have a part to play. this is a very good setup but it's not going to be this overpowered for a lot of players
prediction after 55 secs of watching: wise dragon armor with a frozen scythe. will talk about upgrading to glacial scythe, goggles sheep pet and dungeonizing the wise dragon.
Ok, love the vid but just to point out a few things: the Hyperion is 1.6b with scrolls not 1.2, dragon armour has a cata req when dungeonised and finally, PLEASE do not encourage people with jujus and spirit bows to play archer in f7, THEY WILL FAIL THE RUN
I did f1 with a setup that cost under 5m, and any floor up to f5 can easily be done with setups that cost well under 30m. This setup is unnecessary for pretty much anything. Also you can clear f7 in 3/4 shadow assassin. The only difficult part of the floor is the boss, and this setup is next to useless for that part of the run.
how are you supposed to get the mana/mana regen of a wise dragon armor on this setuo tho? i feel like spamming spells won't be effective with this set especially as a begginer
Ultimate Wise 5, Sighted Power Stone, Heroic Reforge, Sheep Pet and other mana boosting/mana reduction things. It's not that difficult and it's also only an extra 3ish mil or so, which you should be using as a mage regardless of the armour/setup you have
im on ironman so personally this set ran me back around 35M by the way Me personally for f7 i played lcm and just got 4/4 Full necrotic /loving Shadow assassin a Livid dagger and spirit scepter. clear was easy because i could switch to sheep pet and have like 5k mana and i can just use my rogue sword spam tp get 400 speed look at the floor and spam sceptre This automatically clears like every room for me EXCEPT WITHERMANCERS and because I am so fast i kill the mobs before they even react I am cata 26 and when i killed mini bosses I used tiger pet and a dirty livid dagger my dps was better with livid dagger against minibosses then aotd and I was able to melt f7 minis. At the start of the dungeon I would do like 6-8m a hit with my lcm and with ferocity i melted any miniboss, and the funniest thing is that during the boss fight during the damage phases I was still keeping on par with the cata 28 necron juju nons LOL. Progression: dont start unless you have what i just listed If you have more money and can get better setup 3/4 storm golden head everything on ancient Shadow fury Legendary tiger Legendary sheep Glacial scythe or even a yeti sword for clear and ice spray wand
NOTE: FABLED IS A LOT BETTER THAN DIRTY I COULDNT GET FABLED SO I GOT THE NEXT BEST THING DIRTY IF YOU CAN GET FABLED ON DAGGER THAT IS BETTER THAN DIRTY
I paid 3m for it on my grind to alch 50. Alchemy 50 is also possible to get with 6m profit (as I've done this myself), soooo no, it's not expensive for early game, you just have to know what you're doing
I have been using a AOTD for a while, but it has never had that white attack line that im seeing in this video while in the dungeon and i have essentially the same stuff. Is there a pet that gives that ability or is there a talisman for it? Either way, i cant replicate the results in the video
Yeah SA + Livid is the typical berserker setup that everyone uses, though this video is obviously catered more towards mage. The funny thing is that superior + aotd + glove is also a really solid berserker setup with more EHP than SA, it's just one people don't really recognise. I'm unsure of whether I wanna cover it in a video or not though but I guess we'll see.
I said I recorded this on the chaos profile, which is very very accurate to the average 'early gamer' or 'mid gamer'. I had just barely over 200mp and items achieveable within a few months of playtime, so I'd argue everything was entirely fair.
Hey, I bought this setup but can't spam it the same as you, I have 1500 mana only, I can't apply ult wise due to no exp. How can I get more mana. (I'm alchemy 24 and enchanting 23 which I am both working on)
Wish I was smarter when I bought my aotd for zealot farming. It is dungeonized and now I can't play it until I'm cata 18 which is very far away. Great video tho!!
I am pretty new to dungeons and don’t really get the mechanics and this stuff but I tried using this setup (not completely the same cause I don’t have the reforges) in f1 and still took a lot of damage even causing my death .-. Am I doing sth wrong, is it my skill levels or Sth like that or am I just lost
It's just a really risky setup, mage isn't made for face tanking and that's what the setup encourages. You probably just need to get a higher catacombs level, and then use a dreadlord sword + aotd. Also the money for superior can be better spent
how do you have so much mana in the dungeons showcase even though clean superior gives 25 intel per piece. Do you use mage reforges on your armor and use sighted power stone?
I use the Sighted Reforge, Heroic on my weapons, a Sheep Pet, Ultimate Wise 5 and my armour is reforged to 3/4 Renowned with a Loving Chestplate. I might be missing something, but that's the setup (and in the footage, I was cata 12, mage 12)
Sighted Power Stone (Ender Monocle item, about 80k total on bazaar). I also use Ultimate Wise 5 on the AOTD, a level 100 Legendary Sheep pet and I've got Heroic on the AOTD. Just a bunch of standard mana reduction/mana boosting items to supplement the mage playstyle, which you should have regardless of whether you use superior/wise/necrolord/adaptive etc.
Lvl 100 sheep is way too expensive for this setup. You're better off using mage until you can get sa and switch to bers then archer. That's my go-to speedrun progression
Check out my chaos profile episodes, the most recent ones are ALL dungeon footage. They're a really good showcase of how the setup fairs when playing casually
I am an early mage and I play floors 1-3 usually my setup is wise chestplate and leggings with a bonzo mask and spirit boots all 5stared and I use a spirit scepter although bonzo staff would work pretty well. It’s a great setup that gives tons of mana and EHP and would cost aboutn30m with the spirit scepter but would only cost about 12m with a good bonzo staff instead
Actually been using the aotd for a while with a spirit sceptre with my (early to mid game) mage setup, and I might get a dragonfuse gauntlet to make it a very good mage weapon
I use an alt account that's in limbo and then queue into the run. Since the alt is in limbo, it doesn't get into the dungeon but I do. You can do this with a friend or find a 'fragbot' to do it for you, there are plenty of accounts out there you could use
you need cata skill leavel 18/19 for both the superior and wise armor im leavel 11 trying to leavel up therre bc since i havent played in a while my wise armor doeasent work anymore
for all of you thinking about saving up for this dont. The setup price is absurd for just f1,f2,f3 even f4,f5 it just isnt necessary to spend that much on superior when a bonzo staff will stay with you to f7 while you will inevitably sell the aotd. still it is pretty interesting seeing the aotd becoming semi relevant again
The Bonzo staff falls off completely in F4 due to it's lack of crowd control and awful hitbox. It also doesn't do anything in F5, F6 and F7 so this advice is flat out wrong. The saveup is expensive at the start of your 'dungeon journey', however it becomes much cheaper once you get past F4. I wouldn't discourage people from getting this because I'm personally using it on my Chaos Profile and it's been working extremely well for me, to the point where I can literally solo floors with low catacombs level.
Aurora is horrible for dungeons. It's really only good if you get it to around burning tier, but not only is that sooo expensive and requires kuudra completions (which you won't be able to do as an early gamer), but it won't even get past f2. Not worth it at all
You don't have to dungeonise it to do F1-3. You can't really use this setup in F4, but you can swap to adaptive armour temporarily until you get catacombs 19 and can use it in dungeons. I'm currently doing this on my chaos profile and it works really well
I'm surprised you didn't mention Glacial Scythe in the upgrades to Spirit Scepter. Probably more worth using than Midas and Yeti because it's such a safe option. You might be able to still use Superior with it alongside AOTD if you have a Dwarf Turtle Shelmet and Voodoo Doll, but I haven't quite tested it. Even though I'm far past this stage of the game, I really do love watching the comparisons so if someone really does want to ask me for advice, I can give them a better answer.
Yes I agree, in my opinion the yeti sword is better than the glacial scythe and 100m Midas however that is just my opinion. I know a few people who like the glacial scythe more and it simply is just a very good weapon. Definitely should be in the guide
This is an interesting comment, because I knew about the Glacial Scythe when recording but I've never actually used one or tested it. Could make for a standalone video on the weapon itself, though I'm completely unsure. If it's anything like the Frozen Scythe it'll probably get out-dps'd by the AOTD but be better in the clear, so I think you're right here.
@@ModernSoldier it's basically a better spirit scepter. better travel time, uses similar mana, faster firerate, stuff like that. generally people aim it at the enemy's feet to hit both with the lance and the explosion
Yeah, no. I used to use both, sceptre for clear and glacial scythe for minis and boss room. Sceptre outdamaged the glacial scythe on EVERYTHING, and the only useful part was the slow. Even then, you can get an ice spray, which costs less, completely freezes any hit mobs, and increases damage dealt to frozen mobs.
Sighted Reforge for talismans, Heroic reforge for gear and if you reallyyyyyy need it, Necrotic/Wise reforge on Superior with a Loving Chestplate. There might be other ways, but these are the main ones.
Just a little tip: you shoud be using 1.9 version as sword blocking was removed in that version (sword blocking decreases your speed) so shen you spam aotd you dont get slowed down in clear.
You also lose ALL mod support for Skyblock since everything is developed for 1.8.9... I wouldn't make this sacrifice personally, and I doubt anyone else would
@@iy9k sorry for being unclear , nah It doesn't work . What i meant is that MAYBE If You Dungeonised It You Could Get away with 0 Ability damage On Bosses And Minibosses
well for my mage setup i use Heroic Glacial Scythe because spirit sceptre's ability is very slow while i can spam my ability with glacial scythe and it doesnt take that much mana with ultimate wise 5
Nah because ultimate wise 5 and the sheep pet ability makes the mana costs super low, and using intel reforges gives you enough to deal with all mobs just fine. You can see how I deal with mobs in the dungeon in the dungeon section of the video
I covered this in the video already, but I suggest 3/4 renowned and Loving on the Chestplate. Renowned's ability is soooo good with the superior set bonus, but you can use Ancient instead of Renowned for LCM, or Necrotic for RCM damage. It's ultimately just personal preference
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to get a carry to cata 5, then just use bonzo staff or dreadlord? People who are that early into the game usually won’t have 40m or the knowledge to get it.
If people don't have the knowledge for 40m or how to get it, then they absolutely shouldn't be buying carries and skipping all the dungeon progression to get gear they shouldn't have. Sure it might be cheaper and 'recommended', but it's the reason that 75% of party finder are 'juju nons' that literally don't know what they're doing
I love the video although I am actually using this setup for berserker rn because I can only manage 500 mana with god potion which I can’t use in dungeons lol. I’m about to get myself a glove rn bc I spent all my money on a renowned superior set and I also have to grind talisman for magical power. Now that I think of it I need to do a lot of grinding 😂
If you're struggling with mana, get yourself the sighted reforge (Ender Monocle, about 80k on bazaar) as that will help you out a LOT. You can also pair the setup with a sheep pet and reforge your main weapon to Heroic, as all these things will provide intelligence + ability damage. You can also go for alchemy 50 and enchanting 60, and I'll have an alchemy 50 guide coming out soon to help you get that as cheap as possible
@@IamStornie "You don't need that much" yet you're catacombs 18 doing F4. That's slightly problematic I'm ngl, because you're heavily over geared and should be doing F6s at least...
@@ModernSoldier same requirements as that 30M setup with 10M budget? Also Im just new to dungeons, got to Cata 15 for dung dragon and was testing out having 0 knowledge of dungeons. Havent even tried F5
QUICK TIP. You can remove the "This creature is immune to this type of damage!" messages with the help of some mods. I know Patcher has a feature called "Compact Chat" which condenses all the messages into 1 line, and LabyMod has a special Chat Filter that lets you filter out the messages entirely. I've tried to write out how to do this about 6 times now but TH-cam keeps deleting my pinned comments so sadly you'll have to figure it out yourself or contact me through a different means
Skytils can also remove it.
@@naanu4090 I had no idea, thanks for the reply :)
@@ModernSoldier great vid btw, but i cant even properly do f2 with it? got the armour, the reforges, the sword, sheep pet? is there anything else im missing?
@@naanu4090 There could be, but I'd need to look at your profile to get a better understanding of what you might be missing. TH-cam keeps deleting my comments everytime I mention "discord" though and I don't want to keep using these TH-cam replies ;/
@@ModernSoldier is it ok if i msg u on discord than?
so we're just gonna ignore the wand of atonement, florid zombie sword, level 100 leg sheep and cata 12 that he's using? combined with the survivability of a MAGE???
And the mana flux lol all players below cata 5 would have that
agreed lol this video is kinda bs for most actual early game players
I'm a cata 14 Mage. With an Aurora Dtaff (I really need to change that)
He actualy used this setup on a early game profile (chaos series)
Yeah
Let's also not forget that he was soloing f1 and f2. In a normal party of 5 people, you won't have to do all the work for yourself, and blessings will only increase your damage and survivability. Overall, it's a really good mage setup for its price
This is very true! I didn't include it in the video because it takes 30 minutes to do, but I have soloed F3 with the exact same setup as well. If you are using a full team it's going to be much easier and much more efficient, I just went in solo to show the capability on its own
F7 when bald man
@@nm2nasty XD
@@nm2nasty Give me like 2 months. I'm holding off dungeons for now because I gotta work on other stats on the chaos profile
@@KiritoGames19 hehehehe
It's crazy how much the editings improved. Youre easily one of the most informative SB content creators
Thank my editor, not me haha. I push him in the right direction but he's the wizard behind all the cinematics c:
@@ModernSoldier He does such an amazing job i just checked out his channel and i can tell he puts a lot of effort into editing
@@thepigeonman_ whats his channel?
@@moothechicken8904 look at the description
@@thepigeonman_ k thanks
One small note about it being hard to upgrade from wise armor before storm, if you have a decent cata lvl you can probably get a comp with a party in 3/4 necrolord and shadow or wither goggles, making it viable enough imo, I actually did that and it worked very well
I forgot to mention, wither goggles and around cata 30 to 32 makes spirit sceptre do more than enough damage for it, and you can always go for yeti sword instead for even earlier use
but don’t you need f7 comp to use necrolord...?
@@360mew9 no f6 for necrolord
@@aspect565 3 months late
at around 7:08 when the "norm clearing" is, can we appreciate how much florid zombie sword + wand of atonement use is required, AGAINST SOME BASIC DUNGEONS MOBS?! dont go mage, I've done it and it's painfully bad for early game
Superior will help you alot outside and inside dungeons as superior can live on inside dungeons once starred and can actually be compared with sa as superior will have wayy higher ehp and you can also use superior with beserk/archer/mage very good set!
yeah but 3/4 sa is the price of the superior cp by itself so for bers/arch there's no real reason to get superior
Dreadlord sword + any goggles and necrotic young or any dragon really got me through f5
Same
If it worked for you that's great, this video is just supposed to showcase another alternate option that people may not have considered before. I'm personally using what's in this video on my Chaos Profile and it's worked wonders to solo all of the floors so far (I'm up to F6, and can definitely solo it with a little practice)
You would need a helpful tank for that
@@DrewBuddy-ru7bg not really just like cata 20
that is a strat i used in my personal early game journey ! aotd mage is super powerfull and fun to play, glad someone makes a vid abt it
Great video. The forums are taking this a lot more positively then your gs vs aotd comparison lol.
yes clearly the forums all love modernsolider :troll:
@@rice__eater They think he is very... Unbased.
15:49 Btw midas staff isn't just 50m+, usually it's 120m+
15:54 Hyperion isn't 1.2b, it's 1.6b
Pricing doesn't matter as this video will become outdated with time. The point is just "both weapons are way too expensive"
I'd recommend getting a Voodoo Doll no matter what class you use, but this set up is awesome. In fact Voodoo Doll would work great with the pseudo weapon lock situation. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely. Voodoo doll is a great support item just like a healing wand, zombie sword, power orb, etc. Thanks for the comment :)
@@ModernSoldier np.
I used to do Wolf Slayer 4 just with a Mana flux power orb, Mastiff armor and a Shaman sword, so when I got the Doll for dungeons, I decided to try using it on the boss. Literally speed it up so much.
i have full set wise dragon armor and a enchanted frozen scythe, should i continue with frozen and upgrade it into glacial or should i go for superior set and aotd ?
Nah he is just milking that shit just go necormancer lord or if you can go full storm and spirit sceptre or midas staff whatever you can afford
Superior is not early game esp with renowned in short its 42k zealots per piece. So around 294k total zealots for renowned and superior, if you get NO DUPES WHATSOVER.
hey, i just have a general tip. If you dont have sup armor and different armor, i rec to use aotd and dreadlord. As if you are fighting a miniboss with lot of other mobs nearby use the dreadlord to clear mobs and then use AOTD to kill miniboss
If im doing f5 and someone pulls up in superior and aotd u are getting kicked
This is the most unreasonable reason to boot someone from your party lmfao, pretty disappointing to see ngl.
@@ModernSoldierr jujunons may not know much about the game but they can at least contribute better than "aotd nons" so don't kick jujunons from your party
if you have 30 mill you will probably have a f5 compleation and then you can get full sa and a livid dagger wich will do more damidge and probably is about the same price
It does a lot less DPS and has less EHP, Superior is much stronger than you thought. Also assuming that 30m = f5 completion is silly too, because on my chaos profile I had around 50m before I even touched dungeons.
Idk if this vid talks bout ironmans but if you don't , its as expensive to go 3/4sa juju and you won't change armor until F7 and the weapon can carry u though mm floors ( need good skills & mp to be really efficient )
I don't really cover ironman since it is a bit niche, but this is very true. Superior is roughly the same cost as shadow assassin (usually it's cheaper, but not by much) and it has more EHP but a little less damage. Works extremely well for everything including F7, though I think it starts to fall off in M1. Ideally you swap to Necron armour after you get your first F7 completion though, so it's really only used for the first clear, or until you can afford Necron.
@@ModernSoldier 10% profiles are Ironman
Ive told people about this ages ago and even recently now that im further along, and everyone said "Mage Superior is stupid"
[I SCOFF AND SPIT IN THIER GENERAL DIRECTION!]
to be honest i feel like frozen scythe + like wise dragon armor 3/4 with shadow goggles/dark goggles or just full wise may be good to
I mentioned this too! Wise works fine though it can be a bit squishy and harder for some players to use. I just want to bring the superior setup to light as it's a little bit pricier, but provides way more EHP which might make it easier for some people to survive in F1-3
Great video!
One question tho: Wouldn’t it be better to use the wise/necrotic reforge for the armour as you get more intelligence which means more ability damage?
For raw damage, yes, but renowned gives you better ehp, speed and other stats. It stacks really nicely with the superior set bonus too which is why I recommend it. Reforges are more of a preference thing so it just comes down to what you want
I guess I should mention this too, but ancient/fierce is the better option for LCM damage
I have something like 3/4 wise drag + shadow goggles + bonzo staff and it is way cheaper (3m+100k+4m) and I have no money for upgrades that I can buy :(
Damn editing improved a lot bro. Keep it up
Thank the editor man, he does some excellent work on these videos nowadays. I push him in the right direction but all the magic is done by him o.o
@@ModernSoldier ofc yo editor good stuff man
“Mage setup that nobody knows” :shows it to 32 thousand people
The AOTD ability doesn't deal damage do bosses or mini bosses. However, it does deal damage to the normal mobs, like skeleton soldiers.
it does lmao
Nah it doesnt saddly@@BigMacCheese
@@goqse6868 it does tf u on
it doesnt anymore ahaha I tried it a while back trust me@@BigMacCheese
its a shame tbh
I always used the spirit sceptre with wither goggles (before nerf) with 1/2 necromancer lord & max perfect chestplate with sheep pet, fixed the problem of defence but still my intel was a bit missing. Would've been good to know this strat in earlier floors though lol
him: OMG NO BODY KNOWS THIS
me: You posted a video... with over 20k people that watched it....
1:05 scylla!!!
shhh we don't talk about what sits in my hotbar 24/7
I would also recommend using necrotic helmet if ur mana is that bad but this is broken nonetheless
isnt superior armor lvl 20 in catacombs and lvl 17 for aspect of dragons?
I got a 3/4 5* perfect armor Tier XII with shadow goggles also 5* also all armor parts have 10 hot potato books each, the shadow goggles are smart, the perfect chestplate is pure, the perfect leggings are necrotic and the perfect boots are giant reforged. (All armor pieces have wisdom 3) My weapon set up consists of a legendary glacial scythe 5* 10 hot potato books on it as well as 5 fuming potato books and the sharp reforge also it has apart from a few others enchants also ultimate wise 5. I also carry an AOTE for teleports only cuz the damage sucks but it has also ultimate wise 5. I carry an artisanal shortbow with me just for the blaze room and my third weapon is the AOTD to keep enemies on a distance if I'm in a bunch and can't think fast enough with the scythe I use the ability dragon rage in a circle around me to push them away so the knockback is actually helping me. It also has 5* 10 hot potato books, it has the fabled reforge and ultimate wise 5 too. Then my other equip is just a bunch of decoys if I'm doing F4, a radiant power orb, Superboom TNT, a defuse kit, spirit leaps sometimes 1 or 2 dungeon pots and ofc my dungeon orb. Although I can also use my orb ability with my weapons but the dungeon starter guy wont let me ready up until I got an orb in my inventory and I don't want my mates to wait 30 seconds or so just cuz I got no orb in my inv.
My base stats in dungeons are somewhere between 2700-2900HP, 2900-3100 Defense and 2000-2200 Mana.
I go through F5 like ez except for the boss fight cuz my glacial scythe doesn't do like 1m dmg per hit. F6 mobs are more of a challenge and the boss fight is just above my level and skill.
If the bats are focused on the decoys I can even carry F4 with it, I must admit it's pretty hectic but I can do it.
Also says you can obtain it without ever having done a dungeon before. Meanwhile having withered and ancient in the intro, and recommending using loving. Can you please explain how to get these reforges without doing dungeons.
You don't need to complete the dungeons to use the reforges, you just need the mining level. If you're an ironman player, use Renowned (or fierce/wise) before you can get Loving, then swap the chestplate reforge to Loving. Ancient I'd not recommend until later game LCM if you want to specialise in LCM, though Necrotic I would recommend for RCM if you don't want to use Renowned.
pov: u buy it and it say Catacomb lvl required and u only have catacomb 1
Boy oh boy do I WISH the hype was 1.2b
I thought about correcting it in the edit (my editor wrote the 1.2b, not me), but I figured it doesn't matter because this video will become outdated eventually and the main point is to show "the hyperion is too expensive"
@ModernSoldier I cannot tell you how happy I am that I ignored thirtyvirus and bought it at 550m 💀
"This creature is immune to this kind of magic!"
even if it is still dealing damage I cannot get over the fact your chat is unusable
You can remove it with specific mods, and I might actually do that myself at some point... It gets to a point where you completely ignore it though so I don't see it as a big deal, especially if the setup is as strong as this one.
In fact, I'm editing this comment now to inform you that I cleared it from my chat just now... Thanks I guess lmao
Ok, but leg sheep, combat level, cata level, enchanting level, alch level AND TALISMANS!! all have a part to play. this is a very good setup but it's not going to be this overpowered for a lot of players
prediction after 55 secs of watching: wise dragon armor with a frozen scythe. will talk about upgrading to glacial scythe, goggles sheep pet and dungeonizing the wise dragon.
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@Dumplingzx it might have been released then privated or it could release early for members
Wait how are you tanking so well with the aotd setup in f6? I get 2 shot with full storm
Much prefer 3/4 necrotic wise with loving chest plate and necrotic wither goggles
finally. Superior dragon gonna return to it’s normal price after this video.
I doubt it, my videos never alter prices
Ok, love the vid but just to point out a few things: the Hyperion is 1.6b with scrolls not 1.2, dragon armour has a cata req when dungeonised and finally, PLEASE do not encourage people with jujus and spirit bows to play archer in f7, THEY WILL FAIL THE RUN
I did f1 with a setup that cost under 5m, and any floor up to f5 can easily be done with setups that cost well under 30m. This setup is unnecessary for pretty much anything. Also you can clear f7 in 3/4 shadow assassin. The only difficult part of the floor is the boss, and this setup is next to useless for that part of the run.
ModernSoldier when superior and aotd solo m7
I've been using aotd to shred dungeons for a bit now😅 I really hope this video dosent make the admins add a CD to the ability.
There's already a small cooldown to prevent auto clicking, so I think it'll be fine. It's not dumb OP by any means, it's just a solid weapon :)
how are you supposed to get the mana/mana regen of a wise dragon armor on this setuo tho? i feel like spamming spells won't be effective with this set especially as a begginer
Ultimate Wise 5, Sighted Power Stone, Heroic Reforge, Sheep Pet and other mana boosting/mana reduction things. It's not that difficult and it's also only an extra 3ish mil or so, which you should be using as a mage regardless of the armour/setup you have
What reforges should I be using on the sup? Also should I put ult wise 5 on my aotd?
im on ironman so personally this set ran me back
around 35M by the way
Me personally for f7 i played lcm and just got 4/4 Full necrotic /loving Shadow assassin a Livid dagger and spirit scepter. clear was easy because i could switch to sheep pet and have like 5k mana and i can just use my rogue sword spam tp get 400 speed look at the floor and spam sceptre This automatically clears like every room for me EXCEPT WITHERMANCERS and because I am so fast i kill the mobs before they even react I am cata 26 and when i killed mini bosses I used tiger pet and a dirty livid dagger my dps was better with livid dagger against minibosses then aotd and I was able to melt f7 minis. At the start of the dungeon I would do like 6-8m a hit with my lcm and with ferocity i melted any miniboss, and the funniest thing is that during the boss fight during the damage phases I was still keeping on par with the cata 28 necron juju nons LOL.
Progression: dont start unless you have what i just listed
If you have more money and can get better setup
3/4 storm golden head
everything on ancient
Shadow fury
Legendary tiger
Legendary sheep
Glacial scythe or even a yeti sword for clear
and ice spray wand
NOTE: FABLED IS A LOT BETTER THAN DIRTY I COULDNT GET FABLED SO I GOT THE NEXT BEST THING DIRTY IF YOU CAN GET FABLED ON DAGGER THAT IS BETTER THAN DIRTY
Good Video! I didn't know AOTD and Superior Dragon armour could do so much damage!
but how do i do damage to bonzo? if i hit him with dragon rage it just doesnt do damage becuz its immune?
But the only problem is. You were using a lvl 100 legendary sheep which is really expensive for early game
I paid 3m for it on my grind to alch 50. Alchemy 50 is also possible to get with 6m profit (as I've done this myself), soooo no, it's not expensive for early game, you just have to know what you're doing
I have been using a AOTD for a while, but it has never had that white attack line that im seeing in this video while in the dungeon and i have essentially the same stuff. Is there a pet that gives that ability or is there a talisman for it? Either way, i cant replicate the results in the video
The white attack line is just what happens if you're doing melee as a mage I'm pretty sure
Which mod lets you see the rarity in the hotbar?
what reforge should I put on my superior armor and aotd?
as a master mode mage this will be useful for me to troll my friends with (i will be using superior and aotd in m3)
DUDE I have been like on my mage profile: WOW aotd is CRACKED finally someone talking bout it
Would necro lord and spirit sceptre be btr?
damn that’s crazy I sure can’t wait to not use this because I have full SA and livid dagger lmao
Yeah SA + Livid is the typical berserker setup that everyone uses, though this video is obviously catered more towards mage. The funny thing is that superior + aotd + glove is also a really solid berserker setup with more EHP than SA, it's just one people don't really recognise. I'm unsure of whether I wanna cover it in a video or not though but I guess we'll see.
What about your accessory bag bonuses? Most early players won't have that.
I said I recorded this on the chaos profile, which is very very accurate to the average 'early gamer' or 'mid gamer'. I had just barely over 200mp and items achieveable within a few months of playtime, so I'd argue everything was entirely fair.
Alternatives for the bankruptcy-ing reforges?
Hey, I bought this setup but can't spam it the same as you, I have 1500 mana only, I can't apply ult wise due to no exp. How can I get more mana. (I'm alchemy 24 and enchanting 23 which I am both working on)
Ult wise is mandatory for mid-late game mage builds
Wish I was smarter when I bought my aotd for zealot farming. It is dungeonized and now I can't play it until I'm cata 18 which is very far away. Great video tho!!
Aotd is ok for mage, but not with sup esp reforged to renowned, but aotd is extremly hurt by it not being affected by enchants
How do you make your armor invisible like you're wearing it but it doesnt show
Skytils
I am pretty new to dungeons and don’t really get the mechanics and this stuff but I tried using this setup (not completely the same cause I don’t have the reforges) in f1 and still took a lot of damage even causing my death .-. Am I doing sth wrong, is it my skill levels or Sth like that or am I just lost
It's just a really risky setup, mage isn't made for face tanking and that's what the setup encourages. You probably just need to get a higher catacombs level, and then use a dreadlord sword + aotd. Also the money for superior can be better spent
how do you have so much mana in the dungeons showcase even though clean superior gives 25 intel per piece. Do you use mage reforges on your armor and use sighted power stone?
I use the Sighted Reforge, Heroic on my weapons, a Sheep Pet, Ultimate Wise 5 and my armour is reforged to 3/4 Renowned with a Loving Chestplate. I might be missing something, but that's the setup (and in the footage, I was cata 12, mage 12)
@@ModernSoldier thx helps alot
how does your aotd have the white line particles
That's just the mage left click ability. When you select the mage class in dungeons and left click with any weapon, it shoots out a "mage beam"
how do you have almost 2k+ what’s your setup and can you talk more in details in the next video?
Sighted Power Stone (Ender Monocle item, about 80k total on bazaar). I also use Ultimate Wise 5 on the AOTD, a level 100 Legendary Sheep pet and I've got Heroic on the AOTD. Just a bunch of standard mana reduction/mana boosting items to supplement the mage playstyle, which you should have regardless of whether you use superior/wise/necrolord/adaptive etc.
Lvl 100 sheep is way too expensive for this setup. You're better off using mage until you can get sa and switch to bers then archer. That's my go-to speedrun progression
@@shadxw6281 I agree but what's funny is that because of pet level xp scaling a level 90 sheep is worth much less than a lvl 100 but is 90% as good
Man i thought this set would be better than my storm + spirit sceptre set cuz it mentioned f6 I need more ehp for boss in f6 ;-;
Wait what is this kind of white particles when you use ur ability?
Its lcm
How are you supposed too kill lost adventurer
i think LCM works on it
Would have loved to see more gameplay footage
Check out my chaos profile episodes, the most recent ones are ALL dungeon footage. They're a really good showcase of how the setup fairs when playing casually
Why does he has so much mana?
+1
20m sheep pet XD
I am an early mage and I play floors 1-3 usually my setup is wise chestplate and leggings with a bonzo mask and spirit boots all 5stared and I use a spirit scepter although bonzo staff would work pretty well. It’s a great setup that gives tons of mana and EHP and would cost aboutn30m with the spirit scepter but would only cost about 12m with a good bonzo staff instead
you should try to upgrade to a midas staff it costs around 4-7 mill for the cheap ones while doing insane damage
@@brassypanther343 ok i will look into that ty
Actually been using the aotd for a while with a spirit sceptre with my (early to mid game) mage setup, and I might get a dragonfuse gauntlet to make it a very good mage weapon
How do you play dungeons solo? I’m struggling to figure that out
I use an alt account that's in limbo and then queue into the run. Since the alt is in limbo, it doesn't get into the dungeon but I do. You can do this with a friend or find a 'fragbot' to do it for you, there are plenty of accounts out there you could use
you need cata skill leavel 18/19 for both the superior and wise armor
im leavel 11 trying to leavel up therre bc since i havent played in a while my wise armor doeasent work anymore
for all of you thinking about saving up for this dont. The setup price is absurd for just f1,f2,f3 even f4,f5 it just isnt necessary to spend that much on superior when a bonzo staff will stay with you to f7 while you will inevitably sell the aotd. still it is pretty interesting seeing the aotd becoming semi relevant again
The Bonzo staff falls off completely in F4 due to it's lack of crowd control and awful hitbox. It also doesn't do anything in F5, F6 and F7 so this advice is flat out wrong. The saveup is expensive at the start of your 'dungeon journey', however it becomes much cheaper once you get past F4. I wouldn't discourage people from getting this because I'm personally using it on my Chaos Profile and it's been working extremely well for me, to the point where I can literally solo floors with low catacombs level.
@@ModernSoldier think he means for f7 boss
Should I get superior dragon armor instead of 3/4 sa?
No. SA is much cheaper and honestly rocks in dungeons.
please do not, superior just isn't as good as shadow assassin. and it's like 10x more expensive
what about Aurora though?
Aurora is horrible for dungeons. It's really only good if you get it to around burning tier, but not only is that sooo expensive and requires kuudra completions (which you won't be able to do as an early gamer), but it won't even get past f2. Not worth it at all
I believe you have to be a certain catacombs level to use this in dungeon
only if its dungeonised which you will only need to do once you get to f4
You don't have to dungeonise it to do F1-3. You can't really use this setup in F4, but you can swap to adaptive armour temporarily until you get catacombs 19 and can use it in dungeons. I'm currently doing this on my chaos profile and it works really well
I'm surprised you didn't mention Glacial Scythe in the upgrades to Spirit Scepter. Probably more worth using than Midas and Yeti because it's such a safe option. You might be able to still use Superior with it alongside AOTD if you have a Dwarf Turtle Shelmet and Voodoo Doll, but I haven't quite tested it.
Even though I'm far past this stage of the game, I really do love watching the comparisons so if someone really does want to ask me for advice, I can give them a better answer.
Yes I agree, in my opinion the yeti sword is better than the glacial scythe and 100m Midas however that is just my opinion. I know a few people who like the glacial scythe more and it simply is just a very good weapon. Definitely should be in the guide
This is an interesting comment, because I knew about the Glacial Scythe when recording but I've never actually used one or tested it. Could make for a standalone video on the weapon itself, though I'm completely unsure. If it's anything like the Frozen Scythe it'll probably get out-dps'd by the AOTD but be better in the clear, so I think you're right here.
@@ModernSoldier it's basically a better spirit scepter. better travel time, uses similar mana, faster firerate, stuff like that. generally people aim it at the enemy's feet to hit both with the lance and the explosion
@@fooldiamond5452 I had no idea. I might test it out, but it depends on the other ideas I currently have
Yeah, no. I used to use both, sceptre for clear and glacial scythe for minis and boss room. Sceptre outdamaged the glacial scythe on EVERYTHING, and the only useful part was the slow. Even then, you can get an ice spray, which costs less, completely freezes any hit mobs, and increases damage dealt to frozen mobs.
this is great and all but what do i do for more mana since i'm not using wise
Sighted Reforge for talismans, Heroic reforge for gear and if you reallyyyyyy need it, Necrotic/Wise reforge on Superior with a Loving Chestplate. There might be other ways, but these are the main ones.
Just a little tip: you shoud be using 1.9 version as sword blocking was removed in that version (sword blocking decreases your speed) so shen you spam aotd you dont get slowed down in clear.
You also lose ALL mod support for Skyblock since everything is developed for 1.8.9... I wouldn't make this sacrifice personally, and I doubt anyone else would
I dont get how this man is not even at 100k like how
Had the aotd and normal dungeon armor for mage untill they increased their required catacombs level for a dungeonized aotd
is this guide still relevant, considering the fact that the aotd's ability no longer works on lost adventurers and the blood room?
It Isn't , Maybe If You Dungeonised It (It Has Lower Cata Reqs Now)
@@thomasnem7827 the problem isnt related to the cata req, its that the ability no longer works on lost adventurers and in the blood room
@@iy9k sorry for being unclear , nah It doesn't work . What i meant is that MAYBE If You Dungeonised It You Could Get away with 0 Ability damage On Bosses And Minibosses
nope, aotd is irrelevant now for mages since there's like 3 mobs you can actually damage
I was using rotten when I first started but then they put Cata req to all things
glacial scythe is a frozen scythe upgrade
well for my mage setup i use Heroic Glacial Scythe because spirit sceptre's ability is very slow while i can spam my ability with glacial scythe and it doesnt take that much mana with ultimate wise 5
Spirit sceptre can hit multiple enemies at once and is cheaper so you can save up for yeti or spoon
Glacial scy >>>>>>> spirit spectre
Says early game.
Is 50 mil
Pretty new to Skyblock really interesting video
what reforge?
Note: They actually patched it so that now the aotd cannot damage minibosses and bosses in dungeons
You can no longer deal damage to mini bosses and bosses with the aotd ability. Or am I doing something wrong?
you're not, is just aotd isn't viable anymore
wouldnt you run out of mana in like 2 seconds???? Plz answer
Nah because ultimate wise 5 and the sheep pet ability makes the mana costs super low, and using intel reforges gives you enough to deal with all mobs just fine. You can see how I deal with mobs in the dungeon in the dungeon section of the video
Thanks
Also funny thing is if you have enough mana dreadlord outdamages aotd.
Simply not true. I've tested this and dreadlord's DPS is abysmal, the AOTD is truly unmatched early game
No its like 10s maybe hundreds of thousands of mana
@@ModernSoldier Well this setup is really expensive and dreadlord is like 40k
Wouldnt it be better to use a mana reforge like necrotic/loving vs ancient or renowned bc endgame lcms use ancient storm. So half mana half meelee
I covered this in the video already, but I suggest 3/4 renowned and Loving on the Chestplate. Renowned's ability is soooo good with the superior set bonus, but you can use Ancient instead of Renowned for LCM, or Necrotic for RCM damage. It's ultimately just personal preference
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to get a carry to cata 5, then just use bonzo staff or dreadlord? People who are that early into the game usually won’t have 40m or the knowledge to get it.
If people don't have the knowledge for 40m or how to get it, then they absolutely shouldn't be buying carries and skipping all the dungeon progression to get gear they shouldn't have. Sure it might be cheaper and 'recommended', but it's the reason that 75% of party finder are 'juju nons' that literally don't know what they're doing
I love the video although I am actually using this setup for berserker rn because I can only manage 500 mana with god potion which I can’t use in dungeons lol. I’m about to get myself a glove rn bc I spent all my money on a renowned superior set and I also have to grind talisman for magical power. Now that I think of it I need to do a lot of grinding 😂
If you're struggling with mana, get yourself the sighted reforge (Ender Monocle, about 80k on bazaar) as that will help you out a LOT. You can also pair the setup with a sheep pet and reforge your main weapon to Heroic, as all these things will provide intelligence + ability damage.
You can also go for alchemy 50 and enchanting 60, and I'll have an alchemy 50 guide coming out soon to help you get that as cheap as possible
Ive done F4 with 3/4 wise young set dungeonized and shadow goggles (+ bonzo staff and voodoo doll). You dont need that much
@@IamStornie "You don't need that much" yet you're catacombs 18 doing F4. That's slightly problematic I'm ngl, because you're heavily over geared and should be doing F6s at least...
@@ModernSoldier same requirements as that 30M setup with 10M budget? Also Im just new to dungeons, got to Cata 15 for dung dragon and was testing out having 0 knowledge of dungeons. Havent even tried F5
@@IamStornie Now I'm confused. Cata 15 is not enough for dungeonised wise, and the setup I covered in the video has a catacombs 0 requirement?