I find the fact that she's actually Father Kastner's daughter to be a cool twist. When your own daughter becomes the very culmination of what you hate.
Very true but the moment Father Kastner was at the bottom of the stairs when Lauraine met him, there was an ominous feeling. If you're intuitive you knew this meant right away that he is involved in the very crimes they are investigating.
Dam i was like number 666 ✝️🙏🏻 Scary to see after viewing the video i become like number 666 😂🤣🤷🏻♂️ Ah well… Demons wont posses me.. Maybe cause i like really really fast metal music.. or maybe cause im an italian they dont want to mess with someone like me.. 😂🤣🇺🇸🇮🇹🤙🏻John Gotti watches over me..
I like the idea that Isla was afraid of her own undoing and failure to finish the curse, and the demon chose to appear as her for that reason. Kind of like how Valak takes the form of the nun to torment Lorraine and Irene, which really makes you wonder if this may be our good friend Valak popping in
TBH, I've heard the Warrens made a lot of stuff up and they did make money from certain cases, at least that is what I read. One is the real story of the Conjuring, absolute baloney the film is, nothing like the real story. Also, the family ended up getting pretty peeved off by the Warrens.
I feel like Lorraine's power in this movie is heavily understated. I mean, the fact that she was able to use her gift to forcibly interrupt and block Isla's spell is pretty cool. She almost crosses the boundary of being a psychic into a near mystic herself.
when Isla told Lorraine her God has dammed her, I think she meant her gift also opened a doorway, that someone she wasn't protected, but what Isla failed to realised is that Lorraine has a unique gift.
Love Horror History. Also to point out, going along with the theme of growing up in isolation, her name is derived from the word island, and in Spanish Isla literally means island.
I loooove how the video just starts instantly. I don’t mind intros or sponsors but it’s so refreshing & satisfying to have the content begin immediately and lead into the intro like you did here. I have such a short attention span, I’ll unfairly click off videos after getting bored a couple mins in. This is how you get my ADD brain to stay in tune 😂
@@sandraaa8496 lool how old are you? You look to old to even type/write and even talk like that 🤣 AND you play fortnite.... thats impossible. I just camt see a .... 30 year old woman doing those haha 😄
He was so worried about the occult, but not worried about owning up to having a child and giving her as good a life as possible in that situation . I knew a man who always brought homeless people in to help them. It turns out he was molesting his daughters. Some people get so caught up in these outward things and don’t focus on just being a decent human being to the people who most heavily rely on him. The man I knew was so into praise for helping the homeless, but was an actual monster behind closed doors. This priest was too wrapped up in studying the Occult, and not in actually taking care of his kid.
Yeah but I think his research on cult might hv paranoid him to take extreme measure. He somewhere thought he is keeping his daughter safe afterall he actually cares for her.
The powder blown from her hand was probably “devil’s breath” which is a drug believed to put people into a zombie like or suggestible state. If you use conjuring universe rules, it would make sense that she’s able to control Ed with it. 🙂
Eugenie Bondurant aka “The Occultist” was my acting instructor for many years. Wonderful person and I still remember nervously asking her about the Elite Acting Studio in St. Pete, FL & how to get in. She helped me get in to Andi Matheny’s Acting Studio. Didn’t even hardly know me, but helped me. This was after she was Tigris in Hunger Games. Wonderful & Sweet Woman. Extremely talented Singer, as well. I remember telling her and Andi I was moving to Atlanta and she gave me the best hug!!! I am 6’4” and she is almost my height. I admire this woman. Also, Patrick Wilson is from the same area. I worked at a local news station in Tampa where his dad worked & brother works now and I asked him for advice and he told me to get into Theatre. Which I did and I’ve been in the acting game for 8 years and still going strong. It’s awesome to see people you know personally in Blockbuster movies.
In 19:59 when Isla blows magic dust into Ed’s face to control him, I used to like thinking that it was the recreational drug, devil’s breath, which is some odourless white powder that makes the taker become obedient to the person that gave it to them, thought it was sort of fitting to the situation haha
@@MrMaike3009 yeah its a real thing, the technical term.for it is scopalamine, and it's naturally occurring. In a certain type of flower. I remember watching a documentary about it being used on people to Rob them. Scary stuff.
I know its plentiful in Rio and most surrounding area. One blow and in about 10 minutes you can convince a stranger into signing over their car, go ATM to ATM giving you all their money or even commit horrible crimes. And the victim looks and acts like a normal sober person. But the real kicker is when they wake up the next day they don't remember a single thing and I mean nothing after the dust hit their face. Scary shit folks, be kind and be careful.
Since you seem to enjoy doing videos on witchcraft and Paranormal, CZsWorld, I got just the topics for you to cover: Tobi from the Paranormal Activity Franchise as well as the Witches from the Midwife Occult (that way you can include the Marked Ones in the timeline since the witches tied to Tobi is largely involved in the Marked Ones). Possibly even videos on Kristie and Katie, the two sisters that like Tobi, tied the franchise together.
It should be noted Tobi isn't the demon's real name that's just what the caracters refer him as. His real name is Asmodius one of the Princes of Hell which ties Next of Kin to the Franchise as that's what they called the demon in it. Although if you ask me it might be that Next of Kin is some form of requel that avoids Ghost Dimension (and possibly Marked ones with the portals and time travel stuff also being in it) so Toby never got his physical body. Although if you ask me, those portals might do more than time travel but also cross the multiverse into other universes which would explain where Tobi been in the first four movies and why in Ghost Dimension Katie and Kristie was trained in the paranormal and supposedly died in the fire instead of surviving it. I think it ties Marked Ones as well since we see Katie and Kristie as children with black eyes and the ending Hector time traveling to the ending of the first movie.
*SPOILER ALERT*⚠️ Man, I wish we could discuss personally about this lesson before you put the video... Coz there are many things you didn't know about. I requested cz last time on the malthus or valak one, that make one on Isla and include the comics part.. but maybe, he didn't see that Comment. Ok so, DC released a comic series on The Conjuring as The Conjuring : The Lover, explaining that it's all about the Lover part of the curse, which Isla targeted much before the child, David. This comic goes with the story of Jessica, and how she died due to the curse. So, DEFINITELY, Jessica is the Lover. In the last comic, issue 5 of the series, there is the backstory of Isla set in west Germany, 1951, matten abbey, near czechoslovakian border. Here, Isla worked in a library. Also, the Librarian was a strict head of a cult full of witches. She had the chalice in her possession which Isla stole from her, after murdering her. This is the same chalice she uses in her rituals. So, we find that Isla already left her father in 1951, however he has her photo from 1952, so maybe she came back to meet his father. But as father says, she disappeared later. I don't think that she would try going back to germany again. So, she most probably disappeared in the tunnels and lived there for years. That's the reason why father already knows where she is or else why would he say to Lorraine that she is in the tunnels and send her there? Next, in between the comics, Isla meets Jessica in person and brings her to an isolated room in a library full of books about witchcraft, referencing to the source where she knew more about the curse and it's processes. This library would most probably be the same one in Germany, and as we know, Isla makes people see things and she had already started controlling Jessica halfway through her curse that time. Explaining the knowledge of that exotic curse from around Europe. Next, Isla's curse never take full control of a person until its been long. It's like as the time passes the curse gets stronger and it's easier to control the target, especially if the target is emotionally weakened. Thus, through the process, Isla does several things to torment its targets and makes them feel weak. Like Ed feels very angered (and weakened) when he (is made) feel that he couldn't protect his house and family from an invader, that too, Isla herself, their enemy. Thus he gets possessed in the end and Lorraine strengthens him by saying those things. In Jessica's case, she is already emotionally broken due to her lesbian sexuality and social abuse. But she ends up going against the curse fighting Isla emotionally and Isla has to convince her hard enough so that she commits suicide. It's a long scene at the cliff in the comic. Everytime we see Isla controlling someone, it's at that point of time when the person is emotionally weakened. Also, Each targeted person needs to perform, as you called it, step 1 of the curse. I.e., each person needs to murder another human and then commit suicide, which is very clear with Jessica. David was the child but arne took his curse over himself, the child one curse now acts upon Arne. So, Arne murders his landlord and tries to commit suicide at the end. Also, Ed tries to murder Lorraine at the warrens residence, coz he was the man of God. Second time, Ed is just possesed by Isla to stop him from ruining her curse, with that powder. So folks, that was the comment version of my horror history, explanation, faq and everything episode. I know nobody would read such a long comment, still I hope one day cz would see this and respond.
Nice video, but you forgot to talk about Father Kastner’s other children, Boromir and Faramir. After his eldest son Boromir went to an expedition to a volcano and died halfway there, Father Kastner went insane and sent his youngest son Faramir to his death but Faramir returned alive (barely) and in his depression and delusion he tried to burn Faramir alive, but failed. After that he tried to kill himself but failed and ended up in USA as Father Kastner.
Couldn't sleep last night so I turned on utube and this video came on. After 3 of your videos I passed out and had some of the worst nightmares in a long time. Great videos. There's a reason other tubers are stealing your videos shot for shot.
Dust is an easy way in folklore for witches to curse or possess another. Grinding up the dirt of a grave amongst other ingredients. It does make sense as a method, especially with all the symbolism with the eyes and soul.
Why did I only find this channel today? That’s an amazing analysis! Also, I have a theory for those who were wondering what would Isla gain from this, or why couldn’t have Isla used Arne to complete her list of souls to be offered: Looking at the flow of the movie, it looks like the curse’s powers are conditioned, where each time she uses it to possess someone, it has to follow the “murder then suicide” pattern, meaning each time she uses it to her advantage, it in turn claims something back from her, in this case, her killing “vessel”. It probably gets its power from a willful sacrifice of one “hell-bound” (which I talked about below) soul. If that’s the case, after Arne murders Bruno from the curse, it’ll first complete its turn claiming Arne’s soul before Isla can use it again. Talking about Isla’s motives, I feel the demon Isla wants to summon ultimately wants to claim hell-bound souls that is offered on will aka the “suicide”, and Isla’s job is help it reach its goal by leading people to “murder” an innocent, which theologically speaking, will essentially rip them off their right to live and will be annihilated by the second death. Or in other words, hell-bound. I feel Isla, at the heights of her obsession, had ignorantly awakened some sealed off demon, and inadvertently lost her soul to it, and it used her as a vessel to wield its weapon, which is the curse, to continue from where it stopped. This explains why in the end, Isla is killed when she actually acts upon her own will to use her powers to kill the Warrens, by a killer that looked like herself. That’s when she sees the demon’s true colors, and how powerless she was in reality. The demon already has full control of her, and she was only serving its interests all along while she thought it’s increasing her own power to do what she wills. Therefore, the movie’s angle of omitting focus on what Isla gains from this is reflective of the one fact: she isn’t truly gaining anything, the demon used her weakness against herself and tricked her to give it what it wants, and the moment she’s of no use to it, the demon discarded her. Though we’ll never know why the specific people in the movie were chosen for this in the first place. Thanks for reading this far ;)
I believe the demon could still be from the Ars Goethia. The Symbol you used as the picture in the horror history classroom looks a lot like an A. And there are a bunch of demons from the goethia who’s names begin with A. Examples being Amy, Andrius and Andromalius. I believe this demon could be one of these and in that case I hope to see a future film about it!
There are two kinds of Satanism, LaVeyan, and Theistic, Theistic Satanists believe in his existence, LaVeyan ones think of him as a metaphor for free will, and willingness to punish the ignorant and evil
She would be an interesting DnD character, like a fiend warlock half-elfe daughter of a human cleric of Lathander who spent his whole life exterminating a demonic cult of Orcus.
I love these videos!!!!, Can u please do more? Thank u for all of ur research and ur time that u take to do all of this. Ur one of my favorite TH-camrs.
CZ you never disappoint. The wait was worth it. With your wry humor and attention to detail, this video seemed short. PS. Hope you had a blast during SB. I am assuming you were a fan so you held off the release of this vid?
This character is so interesting and fascinating for me. The origin, process, and climax is interesting. I love how she become an occultist because of her dad's researches in Satanism.
To me the demon that Isla was gonna summon has to be one of the most strongest ones, it requires a very complicated summoning that is really hard to pull off more then then Valak and the one attached to Annabelle. Also it’s one of the few demons ever shown to not go crazy over it being sabotage. It’s very calm and collected and didn’t even care for Ed and Lorraine being there. Valak and the one attached to Annabelle would of tried something or go crazy on Ed an lorrain but this demon was very calculated. Leading me to believe it’s one of the highest ranking ones who just knows it doesn’t need to attack, yet.
The dust blown in eds face is probably scopolamine which is dust formed from a plant that is said to make its victims go into a suggestive zombie like state to do whatever you wish. It's been shown in many movies also
I just came across this channel and i love it!! You put alot of good information in these videos that helps me understand the movies i love even better ❤
Please keep posting Conjuring videos. Thanks for the upload. 👻😀 Edit: If you haven't already, could you upload the history if Samara Morgan from The Ring?
My guess as to how she could possess Ed with that powder is that Stregheria wasn't the only thing she learned from her father's research. Because supposedly that's one of the ways Voodoo can possess someone, so maybe she used that. Also it would fit with her growing up in a repository of occult knowledge, she wouldn't necessarily be bound to one type at a time. And I think the demon she summoned was probably Valak. It took Isla's form because she did all of this because of her childhood so the thing she never overcame was her own past so it would make sense it took her form. It would also be another way to strike at the Warrens since it would know they'd be sent to investigate and also look at it's Isla form, pointed-needle teeth and yellow eyes are kind of it's trademark.
Just an assumption....I think the "dust" isla blows in Ed's face is actually the ashes of a former victim. Much like how Lorraine established a connection by touching a dead victim, isla could manually create one with the ashes on theory.
I've been watching CZ's World for YEARS and yet it's taken until just now to realize that CZ has a dimple... how is this possible; how did I miss this!?
Love this🖤 Fun fact the dust wasn't for possession, but more for deception of perception so long as Ed was in a state of volatile bewilderment he would almost yet unsuccessfully👿 kill Lorraine aka The Lover. With that going for her the malicious practitioner can focus all her energies on the Suicide then the child😊
4:49 my parents wouldn’t care who I’m sub to on TH-cam 😂😂😂 Also I kinda want a Horror History on the version of Spencer Charnas from the Silver Scream music videos, I hope it happens and I think that would be a fun video to watch.
I think the different ways shown in the conjuring universe how a possession works is just a representation. In the real world, possession of evil spirits doesnt have a representation. We just know someone got possessed. If they translate that in a movie, it would be confusing and lacks visual action so the director would just find a way to visually shows that a possession is happening by either puking on the mouth, blowing dust to the face or shooting snake in the mouth.
For a second there, when Charles started talking gibberish, I could have sworn I understood him for the first few seconds before I realized he wasn’t speaking anything. 🤣🤣🤣
Wow after learning her history I don’t blame the stuff she did. She was so alone in this world. This world has so much to offer her so much love and yet she only seen so little.
To answer time 15:10- possibly to make them mentally weak, or start the process of making them weak in some way (mentally, emotionally or spiritually, even socially is a possibility)
Tbf you could watch them in release order and still be fine because you’d get all the shocks that the fans did as each film was released. However, the chronological order of the movies are: The Nun Annabelle: Creation Annabelle The Conjuring Annabelle Comes Home The Conjuring 2 The Curse of La Llorona The Conjuring 3 Hope this helps :)
🏚I have no idea what this story is about but I am still fascinated!! I always love your horror history episodes!! To be honest the way you tell it makes her sympathetic, obviously she did bad things but she was pushed off the deep end due to her upbringing.🕳
Why did Isla made arnie kill landlord? She could have arnie kill girlfriend and her brother at once and then only one sacrifice would have required. She could have then lured Lauren and sacrificed her. And her plan would have succeeded. Malnutrition made Isla idiot.
4:09 I have a Silky chicken like that little one there. She is white with a little tuft on her head, but she has the most gorgeously blue colored earlobes I have ever seen. It is so unique and absolutely blue. I love her. Her name is Luna =]
Can you make a timeline for Judy, Loraine, Ed & the priest from Annabelle because they are all mentioned in different movies and we arm’s told about all their back stories 😢
I was born in 83 and i was very adventurous so i remember getting in so much trouble when i would run off and mom couldn't find me because she freaked out since a cult in the area was kidnapping blonde hair blue eyed boys ! Im a girl but i had short hair so mom was afraid they would kidnap me mistakenly thinking i was a boy (thanks mom) lol i also have dark brown eyes also black so there's that too
So just a funny historical fact : the first ever cult (with initiation, limited entry, etc...) was in ancient Greece and worshiped Dionysos, God of wine. It was a cult reserved for women, slaves and society's outcasts. They would get insanely drunk, thinking that it brought their spirit closer to their God's dimension. It is often overlooked because Dyonisos ended up beside the other Gods like Zeus, Hermes and so on. I can't remember which emperor made that, but it was most likely a political move to make the people more united as the cult was creating a lot of tension. Since free men were not accepted, it was seen as some sort of hidden revolutionnary movement.
Bruh I’m always looking forward to Czsworld videos. The Horror/History on The Misery Movie is my Favorite. I’m hoping he covers the new movie(The cursed).
I love the video, but i disagree with the interpretation of the child, the lover and the man of god. It would make sense that each step of the curse had to be performed by murder + suicide, therefore - Jessica is the lover (probably) killing her loved one and herself, Isla targets David because he is the child and Ed is the man of god.
I find the fact that she's actually Father Kastner's daughter to be a cool twist. When your own daughter becomes the very culmination of what you hate.
Very true but the moment Father Kastner was at the bottom of the stairs when Lauraine met him, there was an ominous feeling. If you're intuitive you knew this meant right away that he is involved in the very crimes they are investigating.
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Dam i was like number 666 ✝️🙏🏻 Scary to see after viewing the video i become like number 666 😂🤣🤷🏻♂️ Ah well… Demons wont posses me.. Maybe cause i like really really fast metal music.. or maybe cause im an italian they dont want to mess with someone like me.. 😂🤣🇺🇸🇮🇹🤙🏻John Gotti watches over me..
I like the idea that Isla was afraid of her own undoing and failure to finish the curse, and the demon chose to appear as her for that reason. Kind of like how Valak takes the form of the nun to torment Lorraine and Irene, which really makes you wonder if this may be our good friend Valak popping in
*good friend*
My mind has been blown, thats rlly likely actually
I guess I can see that... but honestly, I was hoping g to see the actual version of the demon.
I got the same vibe based on Valak eye colors
TBH, I've heard the Warrens made a lot of stuff up and they did make money from certain cases, at least that is what I read. One is the real story of the Conjuring, absolute baloney the film is, nothing like the real story. Also, the family ended up getting pretty peeved off by the Warrens.
I feel like Lorraine's power in this movie is heavily understated. I mean, the fact that she was able to use her gift to forcibly interrupt and block Isla's spell is pretty cool. She almost crosses the boundary of being a psychic into a near mystic herself.
“You promised a demon a soul and he can’t return to hell without one” that scene hit different in theaters 😂
when Isla told Lorraine her God has dammed her, I think she meant her gift also opened a doorway, that someone she wasn't protected, but what Isla failed to realised is that Lorraine has a unique gift.
Never saw it that way before. That's a VERY interesting point bc Isla's statement wasn't really explained in the movie.
personally I took it as “You can see me and control the things around me, I can also see and control the things around you.”
Love Horror History. Also to point out, going along with the theme of growing up in isolation, her name is derived from the word island, and in Spanish Isla literally means island.
"Going along with the theme of growing up in isolation" that line makes no sense.
@@gawkgawk1000 don't worry about it, CZ understood it.
@@icekamus78 idk man. It only irritates me not worrying me.
@@gawkgawk1000 According to him, she grew up alone and that was a core theme of her story. How does that not make sense?
good catch!
I loooove how the video just starts instantly. I don’t mind intros or sponsors but it’s so refreshing & satisfying to have the content begin immediately and lead into the intro like you did here. I have such a short attention span, I’ll unfairly click off videos after getting bored a couple mins in. This is how you get my ADD brain to stay in tune 😂
Have you played Raid Shadow Legends?
@@Tekillyah omg nooooo lol you just had to go there 😂
@@sandraaa8496 lool how old are you? You look to old to even type/write and even talk like that 🤣 AND you play fortnite.... thats impossible. I just camt see a .... 30 year old woman doing those haha 😄
I have ADD too. See where your coming from.
Nope.
He was so worried about the occult, but not worried about owning up to having a child and giving her as good a life as possible in that situation .
I knew a man who always brought homeless people in to help them. It turns out he was molesting his daughters.
Some people get so caught up in these outward things and don’t focus on just being a decent human being to the people who most heavily rely on him. The man I knew was so into praise for helping the homeless, but was an actual monster behind closed doors.
This priest was too wrapped up in studying the Occult, and not in actually taking care of his kid.
Yeah but I think his research on cult might hv paranoid him to take extreme measure. He somewhere thought he is keeping his daughter safe afterall he actually cares for her.
Lots of child molesters know how to hide well by making themselves look to good to be capable of horrible things in case their victims come forward.
Can we all stop & take a moment to appreciate this youtuber for having ads in appropriate places so they dont interrupt?
"the malnourished lady was also malnourished from love" LOL THIS....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Isla's mostly calm demeanor is way more intimidating than the rage of other demons in the film universe.
Yeah definitely
This is why I like the third movie so much. She’s scarier than the other ones lol
Quick note. The dust was probably Devils breath. Real life drug and creepy asf. Look it up it's both cool and terrifying
Commonly used by drs back in the day.
Yes, either that or Goofer Dust, which was a plot point in an X-Files episode en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theef
@@joebridger3339supernatural too
The powder blown from her hand was probably “devil’s breath” which is a drug believed to put people into a zombie like or suggestible state. If you use conjuring universe rules, it would make sense that she’s able to control Ed with it. 🙂
I don’t think she was controlling him jsut that the powder made him go crazy
I know I'm late, but how the hell is she going to get her hands on a street-drug from Columbia? :-P
@@OscarStensballe My best guess is that Isla either got the stuff by supernatural means or learned how to make the stuff herself.
Eugenie Bondurant aka “The Occultist” was my acting instructor for many years. Wonderful person and I still remember nervously asking her about the Elite Acting Studio in St. Pete, FL & how to get in. She helped me get in to Andi Matheny’s Acting Studio. Didn’t even hardly know me, but helped me. This was after she was Tigris in Hunger Games.
Wonderful & Sweet Woman. Extremely talented Singer, as well.
I remember telling her and Andi I was moving to Atlanta and she gave me the best hug!!! I am 6’4” and she is almost my height. I admire this woman.
Also, Patrick Wilson is from the same area. I worked at a local news station in Tampa where his dad worked & brother works now and I asked him for advice and he told me to get into Theatre. Which I did and I’ve been in the acting game for 8 years and still going strong.
It’s awesome to see people you know personally in Blockbuster movies.
In 19:59 when Isla blows magic dust into Ed’s face to control him, I used to like thinking that it was the recreational drug, devil’s breath, which is some odourless white powder that makes the taker become obedient to the person that gave it to them, thought it was sort of fitting to the situation haha
There's such a thing ? Damn human beings are scary
@@MrMaike3009 oh yeah, it’s been around for a while
@@MrMaike3009 yeah its a real thing, the technical term.for it is scopalamine, and it's naturally occurring. In a certain type of flower. I remember watching a documentary about it being used on people to Rob them. Scary stuff.
My husband keeps avoiding 2 projects at my house...where can I get this powder at...!!!??? Lol
I know its plentiful in Rio and most surrounding area. One blow and in about 10 minutes you can convince a stranger into signing over their car, go ATM to ATM giving you all their money or even commit horrible crimes. And the victim looks and acts like a normal sober person. But the real kicker is when they wake up the next day they don't remember a single thing and I mean nothing after the dust hit their face. Scary shit folks, be kind and be careful.
Since you seem to enjoy doing videos on witchcraft and Paranormal, CZsWorld, I got just the topics for you to cover: Tobi from the Paranormal Activity Franchise as well as the Witches from the Midwife Occult (that way you can include the Marked Ones in the timeline since the witches tied to Tobi is largely involved in the Marked Ones). Possibly even videos on Kristie and Katie, the two sisters that like Tobi, tied the franchise together.
Good one
@@mroutdaway216_5 Thanks.
It should be noted Tobi isn't the demon's real name that's just what the caracters refer him as. His real name is Asmodius one of the Princes of Hell which ties Next of Kin to the Franchise as that's what they called the demon in it. Although if you ask me it might be that Next of Kin is some form of requel that avoids Ghost Dimension (and possibly Marked ones with the portals and time travel stuff also being in it) so Toby never got his physical body.
Although if you ask me, those portals might do more than time travel but also cross the multiverse into other universes which would explain where Tobi been in the first four movies and why in Ghost Dimension Katie and Kristie was trained in the paranormal and supposedly died in the fire instead of surviving it. I think it ties Marked Ones as well since we see Katie and Kristie as children with black eyes and the ending Hector time traveling to the ending of the first movie.
*SPOILER ALERT*⚠️
Man, I wish we could discuss personally about this lesson before you put the video...
Coz there are many things you didn't know about. I requested cz last time on the malthus or valak one, that make one on Isla and include the comics part.. but maybe, he didn't see that Comment.
Ok so, DC released a comic series on The Conjuring as The Conjuring : The Lover, explaining that it's all about the Lover part of the curse, which Isla targeted much before the child, David.
This comic goes with the story of Jessica, and how she died due to the curse. So, DEFINITELY, Jessica is the Lover.
In the last comic, issue 5 of the series, there is the backstory of Isla set in west Germany, 1951, matten abbey, near czechoslovakian border. Here, Isla worked in a library. Also, the Librarian was a strict head of a cult full of witches. She had the chalice in her possession which Isla stole from her, after murdering her. This is the same chalice she uses in her rituals.
So, we find that Isla already left her father in 1951, however he has her photo from 1952, so maybe she came back to meet his father. But as father says, she disappeared later. I don't think that she would try going back to germany again. So, she most probably disappeared in the tunnels and lived there for years. That's the reason why father already knows where she is or else why would he say to Lorraine that she is in the tunnels and send her there?
Next, in between the comics, Isla meets Jessica in person and brings her to an isolated room in a library full of books about witchcraft, referencing to the source where she knew more about the curse and it's processes. This library would most probably be the same one in Germany, and as we know, Isla makes people see things and she had already started controlling Jessica halfway through her curse that time.
Explaining the knowledge of that exotic curse from around Europe.
Next, Isla's curse never take full control of a person until its been long. It's like as the time passes the curse gets stronger and it's easier to control the target, especially if the target is emotionally weakened. Thus, through the process, Isla does several things to torment its targets and makes them feel weak. Like Ed feels very angered (and weakened) when he (is made) feel that he couldn't protect his house and family from an invader, that too, Isla herself, their enemy. Thus he gets possessed in the end and Lorraine strengthens him by saying those things.
In Jessica's case, she is already emotionally broken due to her lesbian sexuality and social abuse. But she ends up going against the curse fighting Isla emotionally and Isla has to convince her hard enough so that she commits suicide. It's a long scene at the cliff in the comic.
Everytime we see Isla controlling someone, it's at that point of time when the person is emotionally weakened.
Also, Each targeted person needs to perform, as you called it, step 1 of the curse. I.e., each person needs to murder another human and then commit suicide, which is very clear with Jessica. David was the child but arne took his curse over himself, the child one curse now acts upon Arne. So, Arne murders his landlord and tries to commit suicide at the end. Also, Ed tries to murder Lorraine at the warrens residence, coz he was the man of God.
Second time, Ed is just possesed by Isla to stop him from ruining her curse, with that powder.
So folks, that was the comment version of my horror history, explanation, faq and everything episode.
I know nobody would read such a long comment, still I hope one day cz would see this and respond.
@Lari Nongsiej we can discuss... :)
I read the whole thing and it kinda make sense to me
@@janentshileleni6766 ha! At least someone...
@Lari Nongsiej lol I wonder how do you reply mentally. Haha, interesting. Well, actually, I'm too obsessed with the storylines of TCU ig.
Nice video, but you forgot to talk about Father Kastner’s other children, Boromir and Faramir.
After his eldest son Boromir went to an expedition to a volcano and died halfway there, Father Kastner went insane and sent his youngest son Faramir to his death but Faramir returned alive (barely) and in his depression and delusion he tried to burn Faramir alive, but failed.
After that he tried to kill himself but failed and ended up in USA as Father Kastner.
Yeah, surprised he looks so good. He took a pretty long dive after all
What he has other kids? I thought it was just Isla cause of the photos in the movie. I didn't see other kids, might be wrong
@@morganlivers9912 I’m referencing The Lord of The Rings. He is in it, he has 2 sons in LOTR.
@BryanSerria oh ok thanks for explaining. It makes more sense now
@@Hiihtopipa He was stage diving & fortunately some orcs caught him.
Great performance, he was on fire that day 😀
Couldn't sleep last night so I turned on utube and this video came on. After 3 of your videos I passed out and had some of the worst nightmares in a long time. Great videos. There's a reason other tubers are stealing your videos shot for shot.
16:17 i love those parts when she screams and speaks angryly to an entity or whatever, it gives her so much power, in my opnion
Dust is an easy way in folklore for witches to curse or possess another. Grinding up the dirt of a grave amongst other ingredients. It does make sense as a method, especially with all the symbolism with the eyes and soul.
Why did I only find this channel today? That’s an amazing analysis!
Also, I have a theory for those who were wondering what would Isla gain from this, or why couldn’t have Isla used Arne to complete her list of souls to be offered:
Looking at the flow of the movie, it looks like the curse’s powers are conditioned, where each time she uses it to possess someone, it has to follow the “murder then suicide” pattern, meaning each time she uses it to her advantage, it in turn claims something back from her, in this case, her killing “vessel”. It probably gets its power from a willful sacrifice of one “hell-bound” (which I talked about below) soul. If that’s the case, after Arne murders Bruno from the curse, it’ll first complete its turn claiming Arne’s soul before Isla can use it again.
Talking about Isla’s motives, I feel the demon Isla wants to summon ultimately wants to claim hell-bound souls that is offered on will aka the “suicide”, and Isla’s job is help it reach its goal by leading people to “murder” an innocent, which theologically speaking, will essentially rip them off their right to live and will be annihilated by the second death. Or in other words, hell-bound.
I feel Isla, at the heights of her obsession, had ignorantly awakened some sealed off demon, and inadvertently lost her soul to it, and it used her as a vessel to wield its weapon, which is the curse, to continue from where it stopped. This explains why in the end, Isla is killed when she actually acts upon her own will to use her powers to kill the Warrens, by a killer that looked like herself. That’s when she sees the demon’s true colors, and how powerless she was in reality. The demon already has full control of her, and she was only serving its interests all along while she thought it’s increasing her own power to do what she wills. Therefore, the movie’s angle of omitting focus on what Isla gains from this is reflective of the one fact: she isn’t truly gaining anything, the demon used her weakness against herself and tricked her to give it what it wants, and the moment she’s of no use to it, the demon discarded her. Though we’ll never know why the specific people in the movie were chosen for this in the first place.
Thanks for reading this far ;)
I believe the demon could still be from the Ars Goethia. The Symbol you used as the picture in the horror history classroom looks a lot like an A. And there are a bunch of demons from the goethia who’s names begin with A. Examples being Amy, Andrius and Andromalius. I believe this demon could be one of these and in that case I hope to see a future film about it!
That's just the A symbol from the movie Annabelle. It could be a demon for Ars Goetia but we don't know anything about it.
Fun fact: most Satanists don't worship Satan, and don't actually believe that he's real, they view him as a metaphor
There are two kinds of Satanism, LaVeyan, and Theistic,
Theistic Satanists believe in his existence, LaVeyan ones think of him as a metaphor for free will, and willingness to punish the ignorant and evil
Tell me you hate your father without telling me you hate your father.
She would be an interesting DnD character, like a fiend warlock half-elfe daughter of a human cleric of Lathander who spent his whole life exterminating a demonic cult of Orcus.
....if I ever play another dnd session, this really seems lile a fun character to use!
So good to see u working again I been a fan of yours since your Kevin McCallister days.
I dont know why, but Ive been addicted to your videos for the past view weeks
I’m a new fan and I’m really loving these documentaries and wanted to say thanks for all the hard work @CZsWorld
You explained the story way better than the movie did
He explained it so well that I actually thought Isla was based upon someone IRL
I love these videos!!!!, Can u please do more? Thank u for all of ur research and ur time that u take to do all of this. Ur one of my favorite TH-camrs.
CZ you never disappoint. The wait was worth it. With your wry humor and attention to detail, this video seemed short.
PS. Hope you had a blast during SB. I am assuming you were a fan so you held off the release of this vid?
I'm a Bears fan but it was more that I didn't want to compete with the Super Bowl for viewership.
@@CZsWorld oh yeah, that makes sense.
Dude.. i JUST discovered your channel. I am upset that I’ve not known of it sooner, but glad I found it now.
This character is so interesting and fascinating for me. The origin, process, and climax is interesting. I love how she become an occultist because of her dad's researches in Satanism.
To me the demon that Isla was gonna summon has to be one of the most strongest ones, it requires a very complicated summoning that is really hard to pull off more then then Valak and the one attached to Annabelle. Also it’s one of the few demons ever shown to not go crazy over it being sabotage. It’s very calm and collected and didn’t even care for Ed and Lorraine being there. Valak and the one attached to Annabelle would of tried something or go crazy on Ed an lorrain but this demon was very calculated. Leading me to believe it’s one of the highest ranking ones who just knows it doesn’t need to attack, yet.
2:41 "coochee coochee goo goo?" Pure evil...
stumbled upon this channel and am so glad I did. subscribed and very excited to binge all your videos !
The dust blown in eds face is probably scopolamine which is dust formed from a plant that is said to make its victims go into a suggestive zombie like state to do whatever you wish. It's been shown in many movies also
I was having the worst day... thank you for giving me something else to think about.
I just came across this channel and i love it!! You put alot of good information in these videos that helps me understand the movies i love even better ❤
You calling her the malnourished lady at the end gave me a good old laugh
If she could've conjured up a spell to make her Dad bring down a plate of nice, juicy stake... maybe all of this could've been avoided.
Even if I don’t like the subject matter I still watch your videos because of the style and quality
Please keep posting Conjuring videos. Thanks for the upload. 👻😀
Edit: If you haven't already, could you upload the history if Samara Morgan from The Ring?
I would probably go for the original Sadako.
@@CZsWorld
Please don't !!!!
@@CZsWorld yeah that sounds good. 👍
My guess as to how she could possess Ed with that powder is that Stregheria wasn't the only thing she learned from her father's research. Because supposedly that's one of the ways Voodoo can possess someone, so maybe she used that. Also it would fit with her growing up in a repository of occult knowledge, she wouldn't necessarily be bound to one type at a time. And I think the demon she summoned was probably Valak. It took Isla's form because she did all of this because of her childhood so the thing she never overcame was her own past so it would make sense it took her form. It would also be another way to strike at the Warrens since it would know they'd be sent to investigate and also look at it's Isla form, pointed-needle teeth and yellow eyes are kind of it's trademark.
Just an assumption....I think the "dust" isla blows in Ed's face is actually the ashes of a former victim. Much like how Lorraine established a connection by touching a dead victim, isla could manually create one with the ashes on theory.
I've been watching CZ's World for YEARS and yet it's taken until just now to realize that CZ has a dimple... how is this possible; how did I miss this!?
Zac can you do a video on the history of Pazuzu from the Exorcist franchise?
that sub plug was quite possibly the smoothest yet. bravo sir.
Love this🖤 Fun fact the dust wasn't for possession, but more for deception of perception so long as Ed was in a state of volatile bewilderment he would almost yet unsuccessfully👿 kill Lorraine aka The Lover. With that going for her the malicious practitioner can focus all her energies on the Suicide then the child😊
4:49 my parents wouldn’t care who I’m sub to on TH-cam 😂😂😂
Also I kinda want a Horror History on the version of Spencer Charnas from the Silver Scream music videos, I hope it happens and I think that would be a fun video to watch.
I think the different ways shown in the conjuring universe how a possession works is just a representation. In the real world, possession of evil spirits doesnt have a representation. We just know someone got possessed. If they translate that in a movie, it would be confusing and lacks visual action so the director would just find a way to visually shows that a possession is happening by either puking on the mouth, blowing dust to the face or shooting snake in the mouth.
For a second there, when Charles started talking gibberish, I could have sworn I understood him for the first few seconds before I realized he wasn’t speaking anything. 🤣🤣🤣
Great video CZ I was waiting for this video . I really enjoyed , the devil made me do it .
Wow after learning her history I don’t blame the stuff she did. She was so alone in this world. This world has so much to offer her so much love and yet she only seen so little.
The captions when Charles Manson was in court talking gibberish was funny 🤣😂
To answer time 15:10- possibly to make them mentally weak, or start the process of making them weak in some way (mentally, emotionally or spiritually, even socially is a possibility)
It takes the toll on the body and mind like a nightmare, on the soul like a scar you can’t see/erase
Can you please do Nancy Downs next And an extended load of history to her as well
watching this was way more satisfying than the actual movie
I've been meaning to watch the Conjuring and Annebelle movies. Is their a specific order I should watch them in given how many movies there are?
Tbf you could watch them in release order and still be fine because you’d get all the shocks that the fans did as each film was released. However, the chronological order of the movies are:
The Nun
Annabelle: Creation
Annabelle
The Conjuring
Annabelle Comes Home
The Conjuring 2
The Curse of La Llorona
The Conjuring 3
Hope this helps :)
@@emansayeddd it does. Thanks.
@@emansayeddd didn't realize la llorona was part of the same universe till now 🤣
What an amazing breakdown!! Oh & the lullaby music was a great way to end the video. lol Well done CZ!!
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NEEDED THIS today 🙌 thank you 🙏
The way Isla died is one game of twister that you can not recover from.
I’m the only person but the part where he introduces the 80’s and shows max headroom was cool 8:04 is the time stamp
4:08 can we please recognize Mr. Winston? That little chicken has seen more than one should in his lifetime...
I think Cz's world should start uploading more often
It takes a really long time and lot of effort to make TH-cam videos
Been waiting for a video of this 🌻
🏚I have no idea what this story is about but I am still fascinated!! I always love your horror history episodes!! To be honest the way you tell it makes her sympathetic, obviously she did bad things but she was pushed off the deep end due to her upbringing.🕳
Why did Isla made arnie kill landlord? She could have arnie kill girlfriend and her brother at once and then only one sacrifice would have required. She could have then lured Lauren and sacrificed her. And her plan would have succeeded. Malnutrition made Isla idiot.
YESSS!!! CONJURING VERSE BACK!!
(Spoilers)
Her death was so satisfying but at the same time so gruesome. That demon really ✊💥
You are so intelligent and visionary think. Keep it up bro. Really inspiring
4:09 I have a Silky chicken like that little one there. She is white with a little tuft on her head, but she has the most gorgeously blue colored earlobes I have ever seen. It is so unique and absolutely blue. I love her. Her name is Luna =]
Please do paranormal activity franchise!!!!!!!💯💯💯
Oh yes! He should
2:03 great GREAT moment, I wasn't expecting it at all, lmao
Can you make a timeline for Judy, Loraine, Ed & the priest from Annabelle because they are all mentioned in different movies and we arm’s told about all their back stories 😢
Trust me there is a lot of lore and continuity in there !!!!!
2:37 ultra mega props to Professor CzsWorld for captioning the Minecraft enchantment table language
I righty love all you honor history so much keep up the good work. And I have a question are you planning to do the history of the shining soon?
Your videos are the best !
I love these! Great video once again!
Rebelling by binging CZ's entire channel.... take THAT mum and dad! XD
I was born in 83 and i was very adventurous so i remember getting in so much trouble when i would run off and mom couldn't find me because she freaked out since a cult in the area was kidnapping blonde hair blue eyed boys ! Im a girl but i had short hair so mom was afraid they would kidnap me mistakenly thinking i was a boy (thanks mom) lol i also have dark brown eyes also black so there's that too
Should do a video on the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre that was released on Netflix
I love it how witches in the conjuring are like👿☠️🔪 and irl they are like 🧙🌘🔮🍄
HELL YES BROTHER. appreciate the video man.
The dust blowing causing her to have control over him is a dark voodoo practice. It is a branch of the dark voodoo living death curse :D
I just realized that in the background there’s a Annabelle doll nice touch 👍
You do an outstanding job explaining movies keep it up
She didn't run off the cliff in fear, she jumped off out of guilt. They explore it in the graphic novel The Lover.
So just a funny historical fact : the first ever cult (with initiation, limited entry, etc...) was in ancient Greece and worshiped Dionysos, God of wine. It was a cult reserved for women, slaves and society's outcasts. They would get insanely drunk, thinking that it brought their spirit closer to their God's dimension. It is often overlooked because Dyonisos ended up beside the other Gods like Zeus, Hermes and so on. I can't remember which emperor made that, but it was most likely a political move to make the people more united as the cult was creating a lot of tension. Since free men were not accepted, it was seen as some sort of hidden revolutionnary movement.
Bruh I’m always looking forward to Czsworld videos. The Horror/History on The Misery Movie is my Favorite.
I’m hoping he covers the new movie(The cursed).
Can you make a video on each demonic entity from weakest to strongest? e.g the occultist, valak, Malthus, and the additional beings in conjuring 2
I kind of talk about it in my Valak video.
It's not dust, it's what Dale Gribble calls "POCKET SAND!"
Why did I have to watch this during a power outage...
I love the video, but i disagree with the interpretation of the child, the lover and the man of god. It would make sense that each step of the curse had to be performed by murder + suicide, therefore - Jessica is the lover (probably) killing her loved one and herself, Isla targets David because he is the child and Ed is the man of god.
Yes! Thank you. Can’t believe I’m first
Congratulations my dude!!!!!!!!!!🧨🎊🎉🏅🎖🏆🥇🎆🎇✨🔥🔥🔥🤩
lmao
i watched this movie and all of a sudden I heard my name and I was really confused then realized i'm a witch or demon or whatever she is
My thing is the person that played a horseman in the tv show sleepy hollow is the same as father kresner
i like audible too. Your channel is awesome!
Amazing, amazing, amazing!!!! Honestly this video, to me, was better than the actual movie! Love this channel!
CZ going all out against Isla and her malnourishment is kinda hilarious