Very helpful teaching. John Piper is right that the situations of Timothy and Titus being circumcised were completely different. Timothy's circumcision had nothing to do with salvation. It just had to do with allowing doors to be opened by reducing the suspicion of non-Christian Jews towards Timothy and Paul. But the pressure on Titus to be circumcised was because those exerting the pressure were saying that this was the way for Titus to be saved. So Paul had to stand firm against that.
Why/how would the Jews see Timothy’s circumcision? I guess they couldn’t just trust him but it seems like a very awkward situation. Was it not deception since it did not have the same value?
Pay attention to verse 4 of Galations 5. Anyone trying to utilize law of pagans to attack you when you are following Christ? Stand Firm in the Lord and follow Christ. Those who fall under such persecution must question their faith and those who remain faithful in following Christ will have their faith strengthened when one sees how Christ gives wisdom and acts in whatever He is allowing for His glory.
Genesis 45:21-24 "21 The sons of Israel❤ did so: and Joseph❤ gave them wagons according to the command of Pharaoh, and gave them provision❤ for the journey. 22 To each and all of them he gave a change of clothes, but Benjamin he gave three hundred shekels of silver and five change of clothes. 23 To his father he sent as follows: ten donkeys loaded❤ with the good things of Egypt, and ten female donkeys loaded with grain, bread, and provision❤ for his father on the journey❤. 24 The he sent his brothers away, and ad they departed, he said to them, " Do not quarrel on the way." "( Genesis 45:21-24 ESV Study Bible) John 13:34(Jesus😊1st❤ said) "34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love❤😊 one 😊❤ another😊❤: just as I have loved❤ you, you also are to love❤😊 one😊❤ another😊❤."( John 13:34 ESV Study Bible)
Mark 2:18-22 "18 Now John's( John😊❤ the Baptist's) disciples and Pharisees were fasting. And people came and said to him( Jesus😊1st❤ our savior in Christ) why do John's disciples and the disciples of the Pharisee fast, but your( Jesus'😊1st❤) disciples do not fast? " 19 And Jesus(😊1st❤) said to them( in a parable in Christ), " Can the wedding guests fast while the bridegroom is with them? As long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast."( ESV Study Bible) Is Jesus your bridegroom too today? I remember i said( say) Jesus (😊1st❤) my Lord and my savior in Christ is my number # 1 or 😊1st❤ in Christ and my wife in Christ #2 in Christ. Imagine you said that during your wedding ceremony in Christ in front many pastors and minsters in Christ with one index finger point up Jesus😊1st❤ and many people too witenessedour special day in Christ.😊❤ Today to me in Christ, is still the same to me in Christ. My Jesus😊1st❤ grows with me and walks and grows within me over the years in Christ. Jesus makes my faith grow in him too in Christ. My God(😊100%❤), our Father in heaven also grow bigger and bigger within me in Christ each day too in Christ also. He expands my horizon in Christ like faith upon higher faith😊❤ in Christ Jesus😊1st❤. Grace 😊❤ upon grace😊❤ in Christ it grows within me and with Jesus😊1st❤ And mercy😊❤ upon mercy😊❤😊❤ too, it also grows in Christ and with Christ too😊❤. It hard to fathom my God how majestic is He to us in Christ. God get bigger and bigger and it grows me to know to know& trust Him more and trust more and more each day in Christ completely depend on God and Jesus for everything in Christ. My Faith in God(😊100%❤) and trust in Jesus😊1st❤ grow deeper and deeper each day with God(😊100%❤) in Christ. I see God's grace 😊❤ in me in Christ in a total higher ways or eyes of faith lenses in Christ. Anyways, enough about me in Christ. My question: How deep is our( your ) spirituality in Christ? How is your relationship with Jesus😊1st❤ today in Christ? Back to Mark 2:20-22 "20 The days will come when the bridegroom( imply Jesus😊1st❤) is taken away from them, and then they will fast in that day."( ESV Study Bible) ( just like today for some of us in Christ also sometimes too fast in Christ for a good cause in Christ) " 21 No one sews a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. If he does, the patch tears away from it, the new from the old, and a worse tear is made. 22 And no one put new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the wine will burst the skins- and the wine is destroyed, and so are the skins. But new wine for fresh wineskins." "( Mark 2:20-22 ESV Study Bible above and Mark 2:18-22 ESV Study Bible above all in all in Christ and all parenthesis parts and symbols in Christ & sharing also meant in and for Christ Jesus😊1st❤ in Christ. Does God( God😊100%❤ our Father in heaven) also grows with you in Christ as you grow in more and more faith( trust😊❤) in Christ Jesus😊1st❤ with Him too each too? How is your relationship with Jesus😊1st❤ today? I walk with God and have a very deep and very-close relationship with Jesus(😊1st❤ ). What about you❤ today?
What's the problem with this? Gal 5:2 implies that if people seek to be justified by things like circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to them. So, from the standpoint of someone who is seeking to be justified by circumcision, they are in effect cancelling the blessing of Christ that is available for them.
@@maxaplin4204 It just contradicts other passages. I think the Bible needs to be done as an exegesic study. There is only one unforgivable sin, and that is blasphemy. Obviously life is a blessing, and God blessed everyone with that. I'm not a big proponent of John Piper. That title just threw me, more than the actual sermon. I may have spoken too soon, without delving enough into it.
@@gaylechristensen6285 You are right that the Bible needs to be analysed exegetically, not eisegetically. But I didn't see hear any eisegesis from Piper in this podcast. He isn't saying anything about unforgivable sins. He is just saying that someone who tries to be saved by circumcision is in effect cancelling the offer of salvation. People could repent of this and be forgiven. And actually, the unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit specifically, not all blasphemy (Mark 3:28-29). I think you are taking his words a bit too literally. When he says 'every blessing', he is using 'every' a bit hyperbolically. He means every blessing to do with salvation in Christ. The Bible itself often uses words like 'every' and 'all' hyperbolically.
@@maxaplin4204 You may be right. To be honest, I just reacted to the title, and the fact it was a John Piper sermon. My bad. My discernment bells always go off with him. Everyone else seems to love him. Sorry about the knee jerk reaction. I should have listened to him more carefully.
John Piper, have you ever thought that if evangelical prolife “leaders” like yourself had rallied around Trump in 2020 and given him credit for his achievements regarding abortion and such he wouldn’t be waffling now? In a way I don’t blame him. He did everything that was demanded of him by the prolife community, and what did he get? Pure, unadulterated hate. Thanks, Piper, for your sterling work in creating enemies and division. You must be so proud.
Very helpful teaching. John Piper is right that the situations of Timothy and Titus being circumcised were completely different.
Timothy's circumcision had nothing to do with salvation. It just had to do with allowing doors to be opened by reducing the suspicion of non-Christian Jews towards Timothy and Paul.
But the pressure on Titus to be circumcised was because those exerting the pressure were saying that this was the way for Titus to be saved. So Paul had to stand firm against that.
may we seek Your blessings Lord!
Yeah. Like Cornelius the centurion received healing for his child, by faith. Amen ❤
Why/how would the Jews see Timothy’s circumcision? I guess they couldn’t just trust him but it seems like a very awkward situation. Was it not deception since it did not have the same value?
Pay attention to verse 4 of Galations 5. Anyone trying to utilize law of pagans to attack you when you are following Christ? Stand Firm in the Lord and follow Christ. Those who fall under such persecution must question their faith and those who remain faithful in following Christ will have their faith strengthened when one sees how Christ gives wisdom and acts in whatever He is allowing for His glory.
Genesis 45:21-24
"21 The sons of Israel❤ did so: and Joseph❤ gave them wagons according to the command of Pharaoh, and gave them provision❤ for the journey.
22 To each and all of them he gave a change of clothes, but Benjamin he gave three hundred shekels of silver and five change of clothes.
23 To his father he sent as follows: ten donkeys loaded❤ with the good things of Egypt, and ten female donkeys loaded with grain, bread, and provision❤ for his father on the journey❤.
24 The he sent his brothers away, and ad they departed, he said to them,
" Do not quarrel on the way." "( Genesis 45:21-24 ESV Study Bible)
John 13:34(Jesus😊1st❤ said)
"34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love❤😊 one 😊❤ another😊❤:
just as
I have loved❤ you,
you also are to love❤😊 one😊❤ another😊❤."( John 13:34 ESV Study Bible)
Mark 2:18-22
"18 Now John's( John😊❤
the Baptist's) disciples and Pharisees were fasting. And people came and said to him( Jesus😊1st❤ our savior in Christ) why do John's disciples and
the disciples of the Pharisee fast,
but your( Jesus'😊1st❤) disciples do not fast? "
19 And Jesus(😊1st❤) said to them( in a parable in Christ),
" Can the wedding guests fast while the bridegroom is with them? As long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast."( ESV Study Bible)
Is Jesus your bridegroom too today?
I remember i said( say) Jesus (😊1st❤) my Lord and my savior in Christ is my number # 1 or 😊1st❤
in Christ and my wife in Christ #2 in Christ. Imagine you said that during your wedding ceremony in Christ in front many pastors and minsters in Christ with one index finger point up Jesus😊1st❤ and many people too witenessedour special day in Christ.😊❤ Today to me in Christ, is still the same to me in Christ.
My Jesus😊1st❤ grows with me and walks and grows within me over the years in Christ. Jesus makes my faith grow in him too in Christ.
My God(😊100%❤), our Father in heaven also grow bigger and bigger within me in Christ each day too in Christ also. He expands my horizon in Christ like faith upon higher faith😊❤ in Christ Jesus😊1st❤.
Grace 😊❤ upon grace😊❤
in Christ it grows within me and with Jesus😊1st❤
And mercy😊❤ upon mercy😊❤😊❤ too, it also grows in Christ and with Christ too😊❤.
It hard to fathom my God how majestic is He to us in Christ. God get bigger and bigger and it grows me to know to know& trust Him more and trust more and more each day in Christ completely depend on God and Jesus for everything in Christ. My Faith in God(😊100%❤)
and trust in Jesus😊1st❤ grow deeper and deeper each day with God(😊100%❤) in Christ. I see God's grace 😊❤ in me in Christ
in a total higher ways or eyes of faith lenses in Christ.
Anyways, enough about me in Christ. My question: How deep is our( your ) spirituality in Christ? How is your relationship with Jesus😊1st❤ today in Christ?
Back to Mark 2:20-22
"20 The days will come when the bridegroom( imply Jesus😊1st❤) is taken away from them, and
then
they will fast in that day."( ESV Study Bible)
( just like today for some of us in Christ also sometimes too fast in Christ for a good cause in Christ)
" 21 No one sews a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment.
If he does, the patch tears away from it,
the new from the old, and a worse tear is made.
22 And no one put new wine into old wineskins.
If he does, the wine will burst the skins- and the wine is destroyed, and so are the skins. But new wine for fresh wineskins." "( Mark 2:20-22 ESV Study Bible above and Mark 2:18-22 ESV Study Bible above all in all in Christ and all parenthesis parts and symbols in Christ & sharing also meant in and for Christ Jesus😊1st❤ in Christ.
Does God( God😊100%❤ our Father in heaven) also grows with you in Christ as you grow in more and more faith( trust😊❤) in Christ Jesus😊1st❤ with Him too each too?
How is your relationship with Jesus😊1st❤ today? I walk with God and have a very deep and very-close relationship with Jesus(😊1st❤ ). What about you❤ today?
Where do we submit questions?
What?? How to cancel every Blessing of Christ? Really.
What's the problem with this? Gal 5:2 implies that if people seek to be justified by things like circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to them. So, from the standpoint of someone who is seeking to be justified by circumcision, they are in effect cancelling the blessing of Christ that is available for them.
@@maxaplin4204 It just contradicts other passages. I think the Bible needs to be done as an exegesic study.
There is only one unforgivable sin, and that is blasphemy. Obviously life is a blessing, and God blessed everyone with that.
I'm not a big proponent of John Piper. That title just threw me, more than the actual sermon.
I may have spoken too soon, without delving enough into it.
@@gaylechristensen6285 You are right that the Bible needs to be analysed exegetically, not eisegetically. But I didn't see hear any eisegesis from Piper in this podcast.
He isn't saying anything about unforgivable sins. He is just saying that someone who tries to be saved by circumcision is in effect cancelling the offer of salvation. People could repent of this and be forgiven.
And actually, the unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit specifically, not all blasphemy (Mark 3:28-29).
I think you are taking his words a bit too literally. When he says 'every blessing', he is using 'every' a bit hyperbolically. He means every blessing to do with salvation in Christ. The Bible itself often uses words like 'every' and 'all' hyperbolically.
@@maxaplin4204 You may be right. To be honest, I just reacted to the title, and the fact it was a John Piper sermon. My bad. My discernment bells always go off with him. Everyone else seems to love him. Sorry about the knee jerk reaction. I should have listened to him more carefully.
@@gaylechristensen6285 I very much appreciate your willingness to be corrected. We all need correction from time to time!
John Piper, have you ever thought that if evangelical prolife “leaders” like yourself had rallied around Trump in 2020 and given him credit for his achievements regarding abortion and such he wouldn’t be waffling now? In a way I don’t blame him. He did everything that was demanded of him by the prolife community, and what did he get? Pure, unadulterated hate. Thanks, Piper, for your sterling work in creating enemies and division. You must be so proud.