How Much is BESKAR Worth? | The Mandalorian
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In the new Disney+ series The Mandalorian, we see a valuable metal used to pay for bounty hunting services and it seems to be worth A LOT! Let's get to the bottom of beskar and find out what it''s really worth.
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How was this comment posted 2 days ago?
There has been glitch, how did this comment get posted two days ago.
Don't get your info about Spartans from 300. That's fiction. They did wear heavy cuirasses.
You missed one important detail: the Armorer didn't use the entire ingot to make the pauldron. She mentions that the Mandalorian donated "the excess" to sponsor foundlings.
You should try adjusting your estimate accordingly.
Just curious is his helmet made from that as well??
There is so much speculation in this video that I don't even see the point. I mean, just to name one, I would estimate the piece of Beskan (if it has a density similar to that of normal steel) to weigh ~8+ oz not 4. And to your point we don't know how much of it was used in the alloy that makes up the pauldron. Did he donate 90% of it? 50%? Seemed like it was implied there was a lot left over. He also gave all the calmari money to the armorer as well. Is this because even though he was donating most of the Beskan block, the real restriction to him getting a full set of armor is actual money?
Hell, it might not even be worth much on the open market, no one besides Mandalorians apparently use the stuff. Maybe market value doesn't even make sense here because it is so rare, and Madalorians are so rare, that there isn't really an agreed upon price that it trades at. To use some financial jargon; A market needs a certain level of liquidity for reliable price discovery. Kinda like how a rare stamp might be worth $1500 to a handful of collectors spread around the globe while being valueless to everyone else. By comparison an ounce of gold can be sold for ~$1500 reliably in any city, and any person knows gold has value. The gold is much closer to being 'money' than a rare stamp is.
I believe this video is coherently wrong based on several canon facts. You're telling me this metal can withstand direct hits from blasters and lightsaber slashes yet is only worth so little.... Negative! You can easily kill jedis with a big(not large personal) number of warriors wearing this armor! You highly underestimated the worth of this metal. Please do revise and look into this metal, otherwise you will be the laughing stock of everyone else and not amount to aanything. With upmost respect; Serna.
@@juanserna8500 beskar cannot withstand a direct lightsaber stab or a cutting blow. there are other rarer highly controlled materials that can withstand not only the lightsaber but cause the lightsaber to stop working.
@@juanserna8500 Beskar can protect against glancing blows. I don't know if they plan on bringing in personal force shields or cortosis weave, which can protect vs saber blows.
I think that however much the Beskar is worth, it's worth even more to the Mandalorian. He can actually get it made into stuff, so paying a Mandalorian in Beskar would be paying them a lot more than it would be for other bounty hunters.
Yeah, especially since mandalorians are the only ones in the galaxy who can forge with beskar. So, if you’re a mandalorian, just be a beskar forger for hire, and charge big bucks for making mando armor
In the old EU, Beskar was also difficult to mine, since the Mandalorians have been using it for so long. Thus increasing its value to a Mandalorian.
I mean if another bounty Hunter got paid in beskar, atleast he could smell it to a mandalorian, if he dares the risk that is ( since it's invaluable to the mandalorian they might even try to kill the seller, given the chance.)
@@henrikandreason7261 Mandalorians aren't pirates, they're honorable. In the beginning of the show that blue dude offered to pay mando more credits than his bounty and yet mando still turned him in. They are so honorable that the deathwatch followed Maul implicitly after he beat Vizla in a duel. In conclusion: no, Mandalorians would not kill a prospective seller of beskar steel and take it off their corpse.
@@Kjf365 that's not to mention they probably wish to encourage people to sell beskar to them not discourage it sinch they seem to be aiming at recovering as much beskar as they can.
So Nokia made their phones out of Beskar?
Edit: so a galactic credit is roughly the same as a Euro lol
So, worth shit. Heh.
More like dollar
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The correct answer is the Beskar has no value, because it is priceless to a Mandalorian.
and Only a Mandalorian can get it forged the smith will refuse to make a non Mandalorian Beskar armor and weapons
@@randommandoade1465 not to mention the cultural significance
@@ABraptor12 that to
This is the way
Like that giant fucking pearl.
Can't really do anything with it.
Can't sell it.
The pearl I mean.
Beskar is worth as much as a mandalorian is willing to pay.
Beskar armor is worth whatever people are willing to pay.
The child's value as a bounty is big enough that they sent multiple bounty hunters after him.
Those imperial wanted him bad enough to part with a container of beskar...like a dragon pearl.
Priceless and worthless.
That child was worth more than that 5,000,000 credit bounty.
That child was worth enough to complete the job, receive payment for services rendered, then double cross.
That's the value of Beskar.
It's the riddle of steel.
Isn't it possible he was paying tribute or contributing to the clan when he gave the Calamari credits to the smith? That's what I thought at least. Especially considering he gave it before he even brought out the Beskar and on top of that let the Smith keep the leftover Beskar for "Foundlings" to use.
Exactly. As the Mandalorian saying goes, family is more than bloodline. To Mandalorians, the clan's well being is more important than the individual's. I wouldn't be surprised if he only keep enough money for food, fuel and repairs, giving everything else he earns to the tribe.
Plus, based on the Armorer's position as a Beskar'gam(traditional Mandalorian beskar-made armor) blacksmith AND based on the design of her own Beskar'gam (which appears to be of a style dating from the Old Republic Era, with the armor having been passed down in her family since then), I wouldn't be surprised if she's the head of that Mandalorian tribe. If she is, then giving her the money is about the same as giving money to the tribe.
Then we can also factor in how she seems to be the one in charge of helping the foundlings gain access to their first piece of Beskar armor (the helm), with her likely having been the one(or her predecessor during her apprenticeship) to give the main character his helm back in the days.
Everything points toward the main character giving to the tribe when giving money and Beskar to the Armorer, and that's without talking about how they didn't even discuss on the matter, implying a tacit understanding of such an interaction being the norm.
Also he pays nothing when he gets the whole container to get a whole new set of armor (it’s not a spoiler don’t worry although episode three is out 😉)
@@sancturillore you smart lol
The plate he had makes more then 1 pualdron. Remember she said with this much baskar it will fund many foundlings. This means she didn't use all of it on his 1 piece of armor, however likely created an alloy.
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- She melted only 18 of the 20 ingots, and therefore I think the two extra ingots went to 'charity' (foundlings).
@@MrZetor enough for two kid sized mandalorian helmets
A little extra info I gathered on the internet, Clone Commando armor was roughly around 100,000 credits, a stock YT-1300 was also around 100,000 credits.
1:23 is where the video actually starts. You're welcome.
Thanks...?
Wish I had read this before lol
Thanks for the heads up anyway!
Makes sense. MatPat could figure it out
A few issues, to a Mandalorian it also takes on a quasi religious value, not only for their codes, but in that it comes from one system, one world and one moon, making it one of if not the most unique item in the entire Known Galaxy. Add to this that the Mandalor have been mining this for thousands of years it is a very finite resource also increasing value. I think you need to look at adding a factor of between 10 and 100 times your given estimate assuming the Mandolorian doesn't just kill an outsider for having it.
They have honor though.
Full suit of Beskar'gam is listed as 33,000 credits (listed in Scum and Villainy Page 48) which is the same price for light, medium and heavy armors that to me doesn't make sense since heavy armor by nature would take more beskar than light armor. In the book, us dastardly Mando's can get it for 3,000 if the game master permits because it means a Mando Weapon/Armorsmith is available for forge it so the price can actually vary as well for making it into armor. Keep in mind that is Just The Arrmor, not any weapons added to it or modifications done to it. A full suit of contemporary newer style armor includes 19 pieces for a full suit which includes but is not limited to (this is all taken from: Bounty Hunters Code pages 142-143): buy'ce (or barbute, helmet), haalas (cuirass that might or might include beskad, kal'halcabure, karta beskar and shartas), ghet'bur (gorget which can include jatne ghet'bur or upper gorget, the part Jango Fett wasn't wearing when Mace Windu "topped" or decapitated him), nor'cabur (backplate), bes'marbure (spaulders which in older times included shun'bure or rear vambraces), kom'rk (vambrace or gauntlet which might or might not be included with the previous entry), ven'cabur (codpiece or groin protector which could include a hut'uun cabur, interesting note on that: hut'uun means Hutt. lol), motun'bure (cuissard, full or half style), bes'lovike (poleyns), and last but not least the tadun'bure (greaves or shin guards). So with the length of this response you can see how a full suit of beskar'gam can become quit expensive if it's made of beskar, lots and lots of parts to forge there, and is usually passed down from one generation to another instead of forging a whole new suit for each warrior.
Oops, made a bit of a mistake since I was writing from memory so I wanted to list it. Medium beskar'gam is 37,500 and Heavy is 45,000.
is impresive how when there is a man in the leading role, sundely it is impportant to make him fail and learn with his mistakes... like, he is a badass mandalorian with years of training, and still get his ass kicked... but marey su? nooo! she is a badass!
joão soares I see your point but it’s not a flaw of the mandalorian. No hero being perfect at everything is interesting to watch. Take Anikan for example, he is the chosen one. That is said from the beginning. He lucks his way into winning the day in the phantom menace which was not interesting at all. Then he gets his butt kicked in attack of the clones by dooku. This shows that he has room to grow and makes him more human. This is the same thing we see with the mandalorian. He is clearly a great fighter but he was beaten by the Jawas and the hairy rhino. Contrast that with Rhey being perfect at everything and beating Kylo in episode 7 despite having no training. Clearly the outlier is Rhey which is why she isn’t interesting to watch. It has nothing to do with her being a female, it has to do with the hero’s journey. Something Lucas followed to a T.
@@parkerzimmerman6405 i dont think you understood my point XD
my point is exactly that the fact that he makes mistakes, is what make him a good character.
@@parkerzimmerman6405 my point is exactly, that if you have a protagonist, you must make this protagonist fail, loose, have problems, need help from others... this is what makes a good protagonist.
joão soares no I agree I’m just saying it seemed like you were going with the male female perspective
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I'm honestly surprised that the clan wasted that much beskar on one suit. He's clearly not considered their best warrior since he hadn't earned his crest yet.
He got the got it though
You guys forget, the leader of the bounty hunter guild said he was rich and he only had 2 plates of Beskar
The mandalorian iron heart/ heart of beskar is everywhere, can't believe I didn't notice it before.
@emilio kowalski the symbol in the middle of the chest not the emblem.
@emilio kowalski and now you'll see it everywhere
I love how the Empire Pay Mando over 25,000 big ones and he just mercilessly turns on them!
My takeaway is that a complete set of Beskar armour is probably worth somewhere in the range of a million credits - which means that anyone wearing it is going to be killed on sight. Which has happened pretty often, but then the Jawas traded almost a whole suit for some crystals.
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Beskar is a prestige material, that is especially prestigious to Mandolorians. If you were smart and dealing with a Mando you would pay them in Beskar regardless, knowing that you would get a better deal. I imagine that the material itself is a specific name for a relatively rare material. I doubt it is completely unique to one planet and it's moon, That would make it far more valuable. It would probably be completely mined out long before the New Republic. The same problem of scale that Starwars always has trouble with is present here. Rhodium is a good example, there is probably an asteroid on the far reaches of space that has some also. Maybe a moon in Frontier space, maybe a forgotten iceball in wild space.
Beskar is just the Manolorian name for a rare material that probably has a hundred names outside of Basic.
Can we shorten American Ben's name to just...AB? Hi AB, what's up?! AB got a haircut in between 0:27 and 1:15 sometime - the fastest hairstyle change in the history of TH-cam. At least you're washing your hair now, hah.
You were onto something by first finding out how much the actual alloy would cost but if your calculations 25k by todays standards for a block, I'd say that a damn bargain LOL. One of the rarest metals in the galaxies and has properties to stop blasters and lightsabers. he used like 20 of them to make the rest of his armor (I'm to lazy to rewatch) so around 500k for a full set seems REAL LOW. Idk random thoughts
Jeebus. Great research and excellent way to tie the fantasy to reality.
Makes me wonder how valuable Phrik and Cortosis are, also being lightsaber resistant. And if I were to log back into SWTOR I have at least 400 units of Mandalorian Iron, but I don't know how much is 1 unit.
*Okay no. I don't get where you get your math but no.*
1 imperial credit is not 1.20$
Han Solo charges 10.000 credits to Luke to take them to Alderaan. Luke Protests and says he could almost buy his own ship for that money. I doubt you could buy a ship for $12.000 actual dollars.
Also official build cost of some ships:
Victory-1 class: 57m credits
Venator class: 59m credits.
TIE fighter: 60k credits.
So no, I doubt you can build a Victory class destroyer for around 70m actual US dollars.
Also: 10:41 LMAO. What will americans do to not use metric system XD
So it’s like Vibranium
Like in cost or how it behaves? Because Beskar has different properties
Its more similiar to Adamantium
How many credits is that Gretzky Jersey 😍
You've left out that, to a Mandalorian, beskar steel is also intrinsically cultural in value.
I think it's safe to say that the Mandalorian is walking around with millions of dollars worth of armor. Bobba Fett was one of the best bounty hunters in the galaxy and he couldn't seem to afford the real deal armor. Essentially, it should have made the Mandalorian enough cash for him to retire or semi retire. I'd estimate his payment was in the $10 to $20 mill range. About what a high end athlete would get for a contract.
For what it's worth, Spartans did wear armor. A more realistic depiction of spartan soldiers would be something akin to Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
Beskar is priceless to a mandalorian.
If the only place in the entire GALAXY where you can find Beskar is in the Mandalorian home world, and it has all those properties,, you bet is worth a lot more of credits than anything else in the galaxy.
2:31 reminds me of Picasso
Way to break it down dude! Subd!
That was very deep very fast
The hutts are not mandos
Kandosii, American Ben!
fan theory: beskar are just platinum-plated iPhones
exept beskar doesnt break once you drop it on the floor
Once did the math myself nd his armor alone is worth 500k$.
Don't forget the Jawas wanted to trade all of his ship parts for 2 beskar armor pieces
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Well technically the beskar is just 1050 Damascus Steele so it would be worth a lot irl
The dude who made this video said Boba Fett is a mandalorian, he is not. Get ur facts straight
You don't have to be born a Mando to live the code. The Mandalorian was an orphan raised by Mandalorians. Jango was raised on Concord Dawn, and Boba was raised by him. What makes him not a Mandalorian?
I personally would have compared Beskar to Damascus steel, but I think this video did a pretty good job xD
But Damascus steel can be easily made
I don’t think they are at all comparable, Damascus steel is damn cheap to make and isn’t even near the quality of Beskar.
Love the video... but boba isn't a mandalorian
I think you mean Black Smith, not forger... very different
This video makes FAR too many assumptions. Your final $/oz calculation is based on the fact that the bar of Beskar “looks like it weighs about a quarter of a pound”. How is it possible to tell that? If he was holding a block of gold that size, I guarantee that it would weigh significantly more than that. If it were aluminum, that might be more on par. You can’t tell the density of a material just by looking at it.
You should change the title of the video as the first minute-and-a-half is advertisement
Mmmmmm . Imperial Credits , Huh . Anyone remember the Deutschmark ?
So.. Galactic Credit is British Pound?
1GBP = 1.29 USD
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$40,000? For plate armor by the 16th and 17th centuries were the equivalent of $500,000.
Actually a full suit of high quality armor in the middle ages cross between 500,000 and 4 million dollars in today's money. Cuz that's how much Smith's charged back in those days for their services. Go give the TH-camr Metatron a chat you don't believe me
1/4 pound...??? Have you even held a block of metal/steel of that size..??? That's not a quarter pound... Heavier... Beskar Iron unsmithed and unalloyed.
dude clean that tv stand behind you that dust is getting its own shout out in this vid.
How much it's worth is completely irrelevant when you have writing soap bad they literally make the opening scene of the show clarify that the baddies know what beskar is yet decide to punch it with Bare hands.... the worst part about this is that this is literally just the opening scene of season 1 of Mandalorian. I can sit here talking shit about that dung heap of a show for days
Right...1 Beskar Ingot = $25,000
Hey American Ben, Boba and jango gettin ARE NOT MADALORIANS! They have defeated MandalorianS in combat and stole their armor. I was watching around the seven minute mark when you commented that they were Mandalorian
Good mafs.
It’s worth much more since the head of the bounty hunters guild claims that he is now rich since he has 2 beskar ingots.
Peter Rhea good point
That's what I was thinking the entire video.
Well it could be that in legends 1.20$ = 1 galactic credit which would also align with the prices of things like a ISD and in canon it could be something else
I think it’s worth a lot more than your estimates. For one, I don’t think the whole pauldron is pure Beskar steel. The one making the pauldron had said that the extra will go to support foundlings. So we don’t know how much is left over, but if that small amount can support what amounts to an orphanage...it’s got to be worth a lot more.
Agreed he even said in the videos that it is usually alloyed with other materials so I don’t know why he estimated as if the whole thing was beskar
reven ice A better way he could’ve used to estimate the value of beskar steel is to take Chapter 2 of the Mandalorian in to account. The Jawas were willing to trade that pauldron for ALL of the parts they stripped from his ship. And that pauldron is just a portion of the original block. How much do you think space grade metals and equipment costs? Should look at NASA space ship costs instead of knights. LOL
Good point although they did settle or a single egg to split between all of them.
you also have to take into account that generally beskar armour was handed down generation to generation as it was so expensive and rare
@@revenice1122 crack heads trade expensive tv's and stereo's for 10 dollar rocks all the time
Its cool that we can see his development through the improvement of his armor set from what is likely durasteel to beskar.
At least it's not that plastoid shit amirite? ;D
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Noticed that beskar looks an awful lot like finely layered Damascus steel
@Something Mildly Homophobic nope. not every one.
@@kamirostorino9416 k.
@@kamirostorino9416 this is the part where you give an example to your counter statment
@@gunargundarson1626 Metals like Mythrill (tolkien and many other fantasy) or Uru, Adamantium, Vibranium (Marvel) Are not Damascus looking.
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"Damascus steel", sure, but not "finely layered" really. The ingots look great, though. I think I'll have to (try to) forge me one.
You should do a series on how much each alien species would be worth as slaves in beskar.
i'd pay 100 lives for a Cathar female dancer age 18-30
lmao
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ew bruh that’s a furry
I would rather take twi'leks
@@TopShelfGabe so... xeno is ok, barely furry xeno is taboo... not seeing the logic here
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This was actually pretty cool dude, you ain’t no Alan, but you’re good lol
Everyone is talking about the Beskar Steel. Here I am wondering about the value of Calamari Flan.
First time I heard and saw it, I thought it's edible.
theStamax saaaame I thought it was a jelly substance
One free meal at Red Lobster lol.
Me too they only pay half
Best thing about that armor it renders Blaster, Sonic, ion, thermal, and cryo damage completely useless. It would take over 50 shots before the wearer actually starts to feel any damage
Mando was concussed by a blast to the head (1 blast) from moff
Granted moffs blaster is problly special and deals more damage
@@myes344 was he wearing a beskar helmet at the time?
@@leaaronsanchez yes, he was. Armor may stop penetration but it won't stop the energy that comes with it, his helmet is basically like wearing a bell on your head when its hit by blasterfire.
@@PartiiB beskar is supposed to stand up against both. If it's not, the armor is too thin. The helmet is equipped with com, rangefinder, targeting, scope, vital reader. So specialized helmets have more. In other words, his armor isn't standard combat issue. Most likely too thin for complete protection.
@@leaaronsanchez the thickness doesn't matter in this case, the kinetic energy from the blast will still cause concussive damage, even if the bolt is completely stopped.
Honestly I think there's a far simpler way to go about it's true value, and I think it's worth far more than what you've estimated. In the scene where Djin comes in wearing his new suit of armor he meets with Greef Karga it's noted by Greef that he got paid in Beskar as well. He was given two bars and that was enough to make him say that he's rich now. I'm not sure how to exactly define rich but if each bar is only worth about $25,000 then that's definitely not enough to make Greef rich. I'd say they're worth 10 times as much as you've stated, making two of them worth $500,000 together. That qualifies as sort of rich to me
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How would Beskar hold up in the Marvel universe?
Most likely be similar to Vibranium in quality. Since Vibranium is hard to destroy
@@NicholasJScott nah, beskar would be much stronger than vibranium as seen in endgame it can be broken, where beskar holds up against the ultimate sword that literally cuts everything
"full plate" ...."iron and sometimes steel"....you mean almost always steel?
To a mandalorian, beskar is priceless.
This is the way.
you’re assuming the metals value directly equates to to other bounties, which doesn’t work because of its subjective value to the mandelorian .
Unfortunately I am not used to freedom units. Would be awesome if you would use some heretic metric units from time to time 🌚
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you would think that small brick would weigh more than an iphone? solid metal..?
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One small issue with your assessment (spoilers)
After saying he would donate the excess Bescar the armorer who forged his pauldron (actually she CAST it from a mould) stated that his donation would help "many Foundlings", meaning she only used a portion of the original block. I think your estimate could easily be off by 10 times or more.
We actually can't figure out what that block of beskar is worth yet. The entire block wasn't used to make the pauldron. The smith talks about the Mandalorian being generous since the rest will be used to sponsor foundlings and we don't have any idea as to how much foster care costs in a galaxy far far away 🤷♂️
Eh it's debatable if Boba Fett is/was a mandalorian. He isn't genetically, as Jango was sort of adopted by mandalorians. Neither is he culturally (which is likely more important) as he spend no time with them as a collective aside from the things he might have picked up from his father. Then again maybe that's enough to qualify? Still debatable though.
Great video otherwise. Not sure the final estimation holds ground but until we have any official numbers this is a solid guess I'd say. Like from me!
To be fair though it's possible that beskar is on other planets it just hasn't been discovered yet. And also even someone did find some you would need to know how to use it get anything good out of it.
So a galactic credit is more like a Euro than a Dollar...
Its more like a prepaid visa card lol
But does it get taxed at capital gains rate or salary?
845835ab Salary? Do you mean income tax? It would be taxed as income. And the Mandolorian with all of his bounties is probably making bank... so he would be in the highest tax bracket. Also he’s isn’t married, so no tax breaks there. In the United States, he would get taxed 37%
But in Star Wars world, since the Empire is fallen and it’s basically the Wild West, there isn’t any income tax on it. And in all honestly, who going to want to try and collect it from that guy?
A Mandalorian's most prized physical possession is their armor (the most prized on any scale is their honor), making beskar entirely priceless
boba fett was not a Mandalorian...
These planets arent all the same size, so weight will fluctuate will it not?
Didn't generation films make a video about how much credit is in Star Wars
We are talking about something in a Stars Wars show instead of complaining about the SJW poor writing. REFRESHING!
Charles Pfaff cause this is good and develops the universe
Is mandalorian armor plot armor?
No, it's not as high quality as the shit Rey wears.
Jango Fett's dismembered head says no.
@@foxhound5699 his head and body are fine. Just the neck is a little bit burned.
Sometimes.
nah....biggest plotarmor is with batman
Is Beskar bar looks almost like Damascus steel because of the waves in the metal
7:08 he didn't pay he just showed what he got from the bounties, since they belong to the same "clan"
Start at 1:22
Apologies for being gone so long
Subbed solely because of the A Knight's Tale clip
I don't think there was ever Wroght iron armor.
there was...but due to the nature of pure pig iron, there are no surviving examples other than highly rusted out forms found in museums.
ha jokes on you, I have a copper ingot in my room, baskar "totally" has a smaller price so I am rich. Muhahahaha....
please laugh, my wife left me and took the cat
Took the cat? Damn that's tough
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Nice