Thanks for that question. I made a clarifying video to say that I cut the seedlings back (I didn't pull them up). But specifically, the data looks good that they are only harming them temporarily.
I have a neighbor growing a tree of heaven as the centerpiece of their yard 🙄. I have grapevines, fruit trees, and roses in my yard. I just killed a spotted lanternfly on one of my grapevines. So worried about this.
no worries- we are at adult stage now so kill as many as you can. Once you see egg masses, scrape into a plastic bag of rubbing alcohol. each one you kill will prevent 50+ new ones!
@@gardenthoughtfullyit’s impossible for me to spot egg masses. I had tons of SLF last year on my roses (nymph stage), magnolias and maple trees. I looked everywhere for egg masses in the fall/winter. Didn’t see any. Unless they’re up high in the trees? In which case I’ll never reach them. 😩
Spotted Lanternfly is 斑衣蠟蟬, Lycorma delicatula, It is also distributed in Taiwan. The number is not large and it has not caused any disaster. It must be natural enemies that have controlled it's number.
Thanks for the comment! Yes it may be native or indigenous to your area- it was accidentally introduced on imported stone here. We dont have natural predators here- which is why they got out of control. Fortunately our birds are learning to eat them- and now its not so prolific.
Now I know why I keep feeling rain drops while sitting under our silver maple tree. We had almost no grapes this year because of these Beezlebubs. Time to go to war, LOL.
Ah- yes the first few years are a bit crazy- but good news- your wildlife will learn to eat them and the newest data says the damage they do is not substantial for mature trees.
catchmaster makes the tape- and the netting I am using is actually repurposed tree guard. You can use window screen. The tape may be hard to find- when I went to hardware store it said it was in stock. It was on a top shelf that they had to get a ladder to get it down.
I still haven't figured out if there are males and females or if all of them produce eggs. No one seems to know the answer to this. PA needs to figure out how to develop a sterile SLF to mate with females. WRZ 2022-09-11
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In mid October I discovered Lantern Flys in my very large tall Maple tree. I killed whatever I could reach but am concered about the eggs and nymphs for Spring. I would like to try this type of trap. When you are using the plastic hardware cloth do other beneficial insects get sacrificed? Also what month do you suggest setting it up to get the first hatchlings? ( I live in N.E. Ohio) I have to assume the nymphs will be hatching all over the tree so what is the best height to place the trap? Yikes!!!
Once they go up the tree (I just noticed today that there are a TON of lantern fly nymphs in my black walnut tree), do they climb back down? I'm wondering if there's any point in putting the tape around the tree now, or if it's too late.
@@gardenthoughtfully Thanks for the info. I bought some of the tape and put it around my black walnut tree, but I have to admit I'm pretty disappointed with it. It may just be the conditions we're currently experiencing (very high temps, in the mid-to-high 90's, high humidity) but I see at least half the nymphs that come into contact with it simply pull or jump away. It has certainly caught some of them, but the majority seem to just feel it's sticky and try a different path. In other words, it's not quite sticky enough for most of them to get stuck to.
Thanks Shawnkliewer9987 for that comment. You are right- annoying but not harmful. We did a follow up video regarding that as more data has become available.
The tape shown includes only spottedr lantern flies. These tapes also capture and kill many harmless insects, including bees, which are vital for pollination, and have seen declining populations in recent years. I bought some of this tape, and after seeing a few lantern flies on it, but several bees, I stopped using it.
After watching this three times, everything you said is correct. I was getting confused whether you were trapping adults or nymphs. I only have 1 large oak tree so very few adults have evaded my screen trap. I would only use sticky paper for nymphs and folded over screen traps for adults. There is a very inexpensive plastic black gutter guard that you can get at Home Depot to cover the sticky strips you are using for nymphs. But you would have to cut 1/2 inch strips out of the bottom or the nymphs could use it as a bridge to circumvent the sticky paper. They also sell much smaller electrical ties that you can buy in a large quantity to tie the gutter guard together. Push pins might also be useful on softer wood but they are useless on the hard wood of my oak tree to hold up the screening.
These little overgrown looking beetles are tough to kill and emerge in such huge numbers that they are literally unstoppable..These pests seem immune to certain insecticides. Hayes lanternfly insecticide is the best..That and a good flyswatter! This scourge should be dealt with on a local and/or state government level.But they do nothing.
Screen traps for adult SLF should be at least 8' high to be most effective unless the branches start too low to do that. I use a ladder to tend to my trap. Traps should be around trees that attract these pests. If you don't trap most of the adults on your tree this year, next year you will have nymphs all over it. WRZ 2022-09-11
@Jlui83 Thanks for the question. It is never my recommendation to spray as it may kill other insects that are not your target and might be harmful to you. HOWEVER, there is a product identified by penn state that uses soil fungi to eliminate them. Its called Beauveria bassina that is not harmful to you, and you can read more about it here: www.ydr.com/story/news/2019/08/30/biopesticide-being-tested-battle-spotted-lanternfly-pa-pesticide-penn-state-cornell/2149638001/
not sure if the tape will do much. if there are millions of the bugs, we need to train local wildlife to eat the bugs. like crows will copy each other if they see one crow doing something .
Good observation. The tape around my trees was changed daily- because it became absolutely overwhelmed. The good news is that the wildlife is helping to eat them (birds and praying mantis). I have significantly less nymphs this year and this trend of seeing less is continuing in our area. Sadly new places are reporting infestations, however.
Hi Heather thanks for you helpful ino. Last year we seen only a few adult lanternflies here in the backyard Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.. The cat's in the backyard just look at them as they just walk up to the kittys. This year noticed many nymphs which white and red spots are hiding underneath and along the bark of the my late mother's fig tree. This year the fig tree has gotten much larger to my that means giving many more to my neighbors and Friends.. then I looked closely a week ago and noticed all these white spotted bugs. I grab some glue traps I had for bugs inside oI knew what they were from last year's TH-cam channels.. lt is going to get out of control..God forbid of the honey dews that the adults leave
@@georgeplagianos6487 I feel your pain. I can say that we are seeing a lot less this year- and I dont know why. I am seeing much fewer. Perhaps more predators are learning to eat them!
I have a tree of heaven overlooking our property. It is infested with those horrible things. Black mold from those horrible things is everywhere. I had to power wash the entire back yard.
@@Floppy-1235 Sadly the preying mantis that are sold are also non native. I would not recommend that. I think you will find your native wildlife has already learned how to eat them as demonstrated by your spider!
@@Floppy-1235 sadly most of the PM's for sale are non native. I have found our native ones snacking on SLF's as well as cat birds and blue jays. Nature seems to be dealing with them!
It would have been helpful to see how you actually attached the window screen to the trees. Just saying you pleated it didn’t give me an image on how to attach it. Thanks for the other information.
Thanks for the feedback. Here is a visual from Penn State extension that might provide additional insight: extension.psu.edu/how-to-create-a-wildlife-barrier-for-a-spotted-lanternfly-sticky-band-trap
Where is the help, both physically and financially from the State of Pennsylvania, the Federal government who allowed them to enter our country, quick answer NOWHERE!
Ok, I found this few days ago, still experimenting but it looks like it will work, so far it’s few hours since I put my mixture outside and few lanterns drowned in it! Waiting for more! Mix 3 cups of water with 3 cups of pine-sol (any amount equally) and 1 cup of sugar. Leave it near the place you spotted the lanterns. Hopefully it will help.
@@mp8129 thank you, what sort of container do you use for the Pine-Sol mixture? Just any old can or plastic tub or something? And they just crawl in and that’s it? And you are talking about the adults or nymphs or…? Thank you very much.
They don't go after Walnut trees I have a whole bunch of walnut trees and not a one like walnut trees. They like the trees that look like sumac but they're not schumach.
Thanks for the comment kirk. Unfortunately here in central PA they do like black walnuts thats the tree was under when it was raining honeydew. Their host plant as you mentioned is tree of heaven which is similar looking to sumac. Fortunately this year they are not so bad.
You are urging people to pull the very important native species of black walnut trees (Juglans nigra) and grapevine (Vitis spp). Please edit your video to remove those recommendations. Pulling those 2 species of native flora will have no effect on the presence of spotted lanternflies. The invasive insects will simply chose another plant of opportunity to feed on. They have favorite plants, but when their favorites are not available, they will simply chose something that you haven’t pulled. Pulling native species will have ZERO effect on the invaders and have a VERY detrimental effect on native fauna. A healthy ecosystem requires native insects and those native insects require a diversity of native plants. Diversity is very important for native fauna. And pulling native plants creates a soil disturbance which in turn creates favorable conditions for non-native invasive plants to germinate and grow. The invasive plants then create a monoculture which is a loss of diverse habitat for native fauna. Further, you are urging people to pull tree of heaven seedlings without educating them on the difference between a tree of heaven seedling and a tree of heaven root sucker. Pulling a tree of heaven root sucker is not only a waste of energy, but will result in an increase of tree of heaven root suckers. I urge you to read the the 2-page Tree of Heaven fact sheet on the Penn State Extension website to learn how the tree reproduces and how difficult it is to control. You are also urging people to pull the tree of heaven seedlings without showing them how to properly identify those seedlings so that they can refrain from pulling native seedlings that look similar. You are providing a good service by showing people how to cover up the sticky tape that they may choose to use to control the spotted lanternfly. Please edit your video to remove the section urging people to pull native plant species. It is shortsighted; the practice hurts the environment; and the practice does nothing to minimize the lanternflies.
Unfortunately I dont think any of these steps are very helpful. Especially for me. Grape vines are supposed to be here. I am not removing the grapes I have. I have no other trees in my yard to use tape on either. I need something that actually works.
We have seen catbirds blue jays and native praying mantis eating them. I am not suggesting to remove purposely planted grapes but wild grapes. Hopefully some of your woodland friends will eat them.
@@gardenthoughtfully Yeah I hope so. I am considering purchasing some carolina mantis. Personally I wouldn't remove wild grapes either since you can use them just the same.
Make sure to check out a follow up video #2! th-cam.com/video/hhguk40p45Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WyhcQyInFbJcDyok
Thanks for this video, all your concrete tips are extremely helpful!
Thank you XG. Let me know if there is another gardening topic you'd like to see covered.
Doe that affects the future of native wild grape vine and walnut tree?
Thanks for that question. I made a clarifying video to say that I cut the seedlings back (I didn't pull them up). But specifically, the data looks good that they are only harming them temporarily.
I have a neighbor growing a tree of heaven as the centerpiece of their yard 🙄. I have grapevines, fruit trees, and roses in my yard. I just killed a spotted lanternfly on one of my grapevines. So worried about this.
no worries- we are at adult stage now so kill as many as you can. Once you see egg masses, scrape into a plastic bag of rubbing alcohol. each one you kill will prevent 50+ new ones!
@@gardenthoughtfullyit’s impossible for me to spot egg masses. I had tons of SLF last year on my roses (nymph stage), magnolias and maple trees. I looked everywhere for egg masses in the fall/winter. Didn’t see any. Unless they’re up high in the trees? In which case I’ll never reach them. 😩
@sonnybaker8100 i understand. It is not advisable to deal with any out of your immediate reach and they are hard to spot.
I'm in Cleveland close to the lake and they just invaded so fast thank you for the information
Glad to be of help! Check out the year 2 video so you know what to expect (pinned)
Spotted Lanternfly is 斑衣蠟蟬, Lycorma delicatula,
It is also distributed in Taiwan. The number is not large and it has not caused any disaster.
It must be natural enemies that have controlled it's number.
Thanks for the comment! Yes it may be native or indigenous to your area- it was accidentally introduced on imported stone here. We dont have natural predators here- which is why they got out of control. Fortunately our birds are learning to eat them- and now its not so prolific.
I think because it is likely native to Asia- you have predators. Good news is we are finding our birds and other predators are learning to eat them.
Those damn lantern flys they're tearing up my fruit 🌲
Now I know why I keep feeling rain drops while sitting under our silver maple tree.
We had almost no grapes this year because of these Beezlebubs. Time to go to war, LOL.
@@acidbubblebath77 ah... so frustrating! Good news is you will have less next year.
I'm in Baltimore, Maryland and the Lantern flies here are crazy.
Ah- yes the first few years are a bit crazy- but good news- your wildlife will learn to eat them and the newest data says the damage they do is not substantial for mature trees.
Same I'm in Cleveland and they are taking out all my cute flowers trees and etc. and they are big and nasty @@gardenthoughtfully
@@gabrielleknight9555 oh no! I am so sorry to hear that.
Long Island here. I have a garden and they’re destroying my weed
Thank you for this! Did you mention where you can get the tape and netting? I'm sorry if you mentioned it...I'm listening while working.
catchmaster makes the tape- and the netting I am using is actually repurposed tree guard. You can use window screen. The tape may be hard to find- when I went to hardware store it said it was in stock. It was on a top shelf that they had to get a ladder to get it down.
@@gardenthoughtfully Thanks so much! I found some on amazon so I'll try that. Appreciate your videos so much!
Didn’t need the music. Very distracting. But good info in video
Thanks for that feedback!
@@gardenthoughtfullyditto on the music - so many people use that same kind of “cheery” nothing music on otherwise great videos.
@@rhythmfield thanks for that feedback!
How do I trap lanternflies from grape vines?
really difficult. I found wrapping the sticky tape on my hand, sticky side out allowed me to catch them pretty efficiently.
Watch out for that poison ivy near the TOH sappling @3:48!
Good info. Thanks for sharing
I still haven't figured out if there are males and females
or if all of them produce eggs. No one seems to know
the answer to this. PA needs to figure out how to develop
a sterile SLF to mate with females.
WRZ 2022-09-11
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In mid October I discovered Lantern Flys in my very large tall Maple tree. I killed whatever I could reach but am concered about the eggs and nymphs for Spring. I would like to try this type of trap. When you are using the plastic hardware cloth do other beneficial insects get sacrificed? Also what month do you suggest setting it up to get the first hatchlings? ( I live in N.E. Ohio)
I have to assume the nymphs will be hatching all over the tree so what is the best height to place the trap? Yikes!!!
@@gracestokes3288 she sure is! Thanks for the comment!
Once they go up the tree (I just noticed today that there are a TON of lantern fly nymphs in my black walnut tree), do they climb back down? I'm wondering if there's any point in putting the tape around the tree now, or if it's too late.
@@Sudz28 great question. Yes they can come back down.
@@gardenthoughtfully Thanks for the info. I bought some of the tape and put it around my black walnut tree, but I have to admit I'm pretty disappointed with it. It may just be the conditions we're currently experiencing (very high temps, in the mid-to-high 90's, high humidity) but I see at least half the nymphs that come into contact with it simply pull or jump away. It has certainly caught some of them, but the majority seem to just feel it's sticky and try a different path. In other words, it's not quite sticky enough for most of them to get stuck to.
Observation: they all are attracted to my yuccas…they land and stay on them all day…I jested sprayed them all with dawn and need oil
I put up a coupl short videos on what i do.
Yes the have recently invaded great neck ny, they are all over, but non harmful to humans.
Thanks Shawnkliewer9987 for that comment. You are right- annoying but not harmful. We did a follow up video regarding that as more data has become available.
West Islip also
@@elsperger52 Sorry to hear that! updated information and data here: th-cam.com/video/hhguk40p45Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WyhcQyInFbJcDyok
Got them here in Westbury….my brother lives in West Islip. He’s got them too.
The tape shown includes only spottedr lantern flies. These tapes also capture and kill many harmless insects, including bees, which are vital for pollination, and have seen declining populations in recent years. I bought some of this tape, and after seeing a few lantern flies on it, but several bees, I stopped using it.
After watching this three times, everything you said is correct.
I was getting confused whether you were trapping adults or nymphs.
I only have 1 large oak tree so very few adults have evaded my screen trap.
I would only use sticky paper for nymphs and folded over screen traps for adults.
There is a very inexpensive plastic black gutter guard that you can
get at Home Depot to cover the sticky strips you are using for nymphs.
But you would have to cut 1/2 inch strips out of the bottom or
the nymphs could use it as a bridge to circumvent the sticky paper.
They also sell much smaller electrical ties that you can buy in a
large quantity to tie the gutter guard together. Push pins might also be useful
on softer wood but they are useless on the hard wood of my oak tree
to hold up the screening.
I am using the soil bacteria too- as a pollinator gardener any other chemical is not an option. Circle traps are also a good option.
@@gardenthoughtfully
Everything you said is correct.
You're very smart.
I just changed my original comments.
These little overgrown looking beetles are tough to kill and emerge in such huge numbers that they are literally unstoppable..These pests seem immune to certain insecticides. Hayes lanternfly insecticide is the best..That and a good flyswatter! This scourge should be dealt with on a local and/or state government level.But they do nothing.
Screen traps for adult SLF should be at least 8' high to be most effective
unless the branches start too low to do that. I use a ladder to tend to my trap.
Traps should be around trees that attract these pests.
If you don't trap most of the adults on your tree this year,
next year you will have nymphs all over it.
WRZ 2022-09-11
great. tip. I do double layers of 4" tape
I have a grape tree it has lots of them I cepsherd 1
How to kill on contact? Any spray?
@Jlui83 Thanks for the question. It is never my recommendation to spray as it may kill other insects that are not your target and might be harmful to you. HOWEVER, there is a product identified by penn state that uses soil fungi to eliminate them. Its called Beauveria bassina that is not harmful to you, and you can read more about it here: www.ydr.com/story/news/2019/08/30/biopesticide-being-tested-battle-spotted-lanternfly-pa-pesticide-penn-state-cornell/2149638001/
not sure if the tape will do much. if there are millions of the bugs, we need to train local wildlife to eat the bugs. like crows will copy each other if they see one crow doing something .
Good observation. The tape around my trees was changed daily- because it became absolutely overwhelmed. The good news is that the wildlife is helping to eat them (birds and praying mantis). I have significantly less nymphs this year and this trend of seeing less is continuing in our area. Sadly new places are reporting infestations, however.
Hi Heather thanks for you helpful ino. Last year we seen only a few adult lanternflies here in the backyard Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.. The cat's in the backyard just look at them as they just walk up to the kittys. This year noticed many nymphs which white and red spots are hiding underneath and along the bark of the my late mother's fig tree. This year the fig tree has gotten much larger to my that means giving many more to my neighbors and Friends.. then I looked closely a week ago and noticed all these white spotted bugs. I grab some glue traps I had for bugs inside oI knew what they were from last year's TH-cam channels.. lt is going to get out of control..God forbid of the honey dews that the adults leave
@@georgeplagianos6487 I feel your pain. I can say that we are seeing a lot less this year- and I dont know why. I am seeing much fewer. Perhaps more predators are learning to eat them!
I have a tree of heaven overlooking our property. It is infested with those horrible things. Black mold from those horrible things is everywhere. I had to power wash the entire back yard.
Yes that is a serious issue for the understory. Good news in we are finding nature is starting to eat them- birds and other predators.
@@gardenthoughtfully I watched a spider eat one. I am wonder if I can buy praying mantis to let them deal with it
@@Floppy-1235 Sadly the preying mantis that are sold are also non native. I would not recommend that. I think you will find your native wildlife has already learned how to eat them as demonstrated by your spider!
@@Floppy-1235 sadly most of the PM's for sale are non native. I have found our native ones snacking on SLF's as well as cat birds and blue jays. Nature seems to be dealing with them!
It would have been helpful to see how you actually attached the window screen to the trees. Just saying you pleated it didn’t give me an image on how to attach it.
Thanks for the other information.
Thanks for the feedback. Here is a visual from Penn State extension that might provide additional insight: extension.psu.edu/how-to-create-a-wildlife-barrier-for-a-spotted-lanternfly-sticky-band-trap
Where is the help, both physically and financially from the State of Pennsylvania, the Federal government who allowed them to enter our country, quick answer NOWHERE!
How to kill them on my grape vines?
Ok, I found this few days ago, still experimenting but it looks like it will work, so far it’s few hours since I put my mixture outside and few lanterns drowned in it! Waiting for more!
Mix 3 cups of water with 3 cups of pine-sol (any amount equally) and 1 cup of sugar. Leave it near the place you spotted the lanterns. Hopefully it will help.
@@mp8129I see a few on my tomatoes, but tomatoes look fine. I am near trees, so maybe they are just staying?
@@mp8129 thank you, what sort of container do you use for the Pine-Sol mixture? Just any old can or plastic tub or something? And they just crawl in and that’s it? And you are talking about the adults or nymphs or…? Thank you very much.
They don't go after Walnut trees I have a whole bunch of walnut trees and not a one like walnut trees. They like the trees that look like sumac but they're not schumach.
Thanks for the comment kirk. Unfortunately here in central PA they do like black walnuts thats the tree was under when it was raining honeydew. Their host plant as you mentioned is tree of heaven which is similar looking to sumac. Fortunately this year they are not so bad.
tape is terrible. we had a beautiful downy woodpecker get caught in it. Awful. It lived, but had to go to the rescue center.
definitely need to cover it to prevent that from happening! Sorry that happened, thanks for sharing your experience so others can learn.
Reported to the authorities if you see them in your neighborhood
Blowtorch
They seem to enjoy maple too smh
😮show the tape please
ah... well we were changing it out every day- sometimes twice a day! Now we are only seeing a few in the garden. Fortunately, they have moved on.
Thanks China!
Yea I think we should send them something
They were in a shipment from China to Berks County PA. Stop buying Amazon!!! Get of your butt and go shopping, spend the extra nickel .
You’d think they would fumigate all cargo containers coming in from other countries!
You are urging people to pull the very important native species of black walnut trees (Juglans nigra) and grapevine (Vitis spp). Please edit your video to remove those recommendations.
Pulling those 2 species of native flora will have no effect on the presence of spotted lanternflies. The invasive insects will simply chose another plant of opportunity to feed on. They have favorite plants, but when their favorites are not available, they will simply chose something that you haven’t pulled. Pulling native species will have ZERO effect on the invaders and have a VERY detrimental effect on native fauna.
A healthy ecosystem requires native insects and those native insects require a diversity of native plants. Diversity is very important for native fauna. And pulling native plants creates a soil disturbance which in turn creates favorable conditions for non-native invasive plants to germinate and grow. The invasive plants then create a monoculture which is a loss of diverse habitat for native fauna.
Further, you are urging people to pull tree of heaven seedlings without educating them on the difference between a tree of heaven seedling and a tree of heaven root sucker. Pulling a tree of heaven root sucker is not only a waste of energy, but will result in an increase of tree of heaven root suckers. I urge you to read the the 2-page Tree of Heaven fact sheet on the Penn State Extension website to learn how the tree reproduces and how difficult it is to control. You are also urging people to pull the tree of heaven seedlings without showing them how to properly identify those seedlings so that they can refrain from pulling native seedlings that look similar.
You are providing a good service by showing people how to cover up the sticky tape that they may choose to use to control the spotted lanternfly. Please edit your video to remove the section urging people to pull native plant species. It is shortsighted; the practice hurts the environment; and the practice does nothing to minimize the lanternflies.
Unfortunately I dont think any of these steps are very helpful. Especially for me. Grape vines are supposed to be here. I am not removing the grapes I have. I have no other trees in my yard to use tape on either. I need something that actually works.
We have seen catbirds blue jays and native praying mantis eating them. I am not suggesting to remove purposely planted grapes but wild grapes. Hopefully some of your woodland friends will eat them.
@@gardenthoughtfully Yeah I hope so. I am considering purchasing some carolina mantis. Personally I wouldn't remove wild grapes either since you can use them just the same.