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- "Let's start with where we are as a country, and I start with looking at health. Health is pretty fundamental. I mean, what else do you want a government to do? Then to look after the health of the population? Our life expectancy now is no better than it was in 2010. That's dramatic.
That's never happened before. We've never gone through a 12 year period, with no improvement in life expectancy never ever before.
Life expectancy before 2010 was increasing about one year every four years. And in the last 12 years, it has not increased the increase was slow. And then it went down with two years of COVID. Secondly, the inequalities in health have got bigger, that's by region
So if you live in the northeast or the Northwest, the consequences of deprivation for your health are bigger than if you live in London or the southeast. And thirdly, health for the poorest people is getting worse."
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This is the Tory legacy of 14 years in government don’t ever forget it.
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The big problem though, is that they will. And sooner than you think.
100% this! Who needs enemies like Russia when you have the Tory's!
The UK was respected as a model of common sense, now it is the laughing stock of the world, I'm not British so this is an honest appraisal.
@@SirAntoniousBlock i totally agree 👍🏻
@@silversurfer640 your right and that’s so said 👍🏻
Labour are stuck with Tory debt, and the tory Brexit economy.
It’s not like ‘97.
The Tories have made the country poorer so a few could get richer..
And yet John, you think taxing the rich or corporations isn't possible for any government because "they'll run away with their assets". Why doesnt this happen in other countries with high corporation tax rates?
@ecaeas4439 Agreed, but Starmer has said he won't do it on Sky News.
@@ecaeas4439. Thatcher said the UK rich won’t take risks. So she made us dependent on foreigners for jobs. And they don’t pay UK profit taxes.
Germany is full of German owned business who see it as a civic duty to pay tax.
@@Skygrey2943Because even if you know they won’t leave if you tax them, if you say you’re gonna tax them they’ll turn the entire force of the media they own against you to make sure you never get power. The awful media regulation in this country is the source of a great deal of hardship.
Errr it’s not poorer. No recession in 14 years.
Tory austerity measures did this country untold damage.
It was a choice in 2010. Now it’s more like 1945 . Starmer is faced with the same choices as Atlee.
And yet both parties in this election are still going to continue with it
Brexit was gasoline on a blaze.
@@johnrussell3961Austerity ...It was supposed to only be for a few years to get things back on its feet. It never ended!!
Austerity was supposed to bring down the debt that Gordon Brown accrued by saving the banking system, which he absolutely had to do, otherwise we would have become limited to only 2 or 3 banks, and millions of people would have lost their entire savings, and would have had to scramble around to change their entire finances to a new bank, and that's assuming that a bank that survived would have been ready, willing, and able, to accept millions of new account holders. In 2010 the national debt was approx £700 billion, yet after 14 years of austerity, the national debt is now over £2 trillion, so much for austerity bringing down the debt.
Tax the greedy rich and sack the government. Get rid of privatisation
Public/private partnerships of any sort have been a devastating experiment for humanity. Never privatize anything important.
Haven't the Tories done well? (for themselves!).
never better since the 1930s
Britain is the worst European place to live in right now
Ukraine? Lol
But it's not though is it
So not Ukraine.
@@robmarshall9026 guess which country has better public services between Ukraine and UK?
We're not in Europe, we are elsewhere, quite where no one really knows ...
While rich Tory voters are only concerned about not paying more tax as usual.............................
Change the tax laws? Basically tax wealth. Even tax wealth from investments! It is a tried and tested method, even in the USA...
What about rich labour voters?
@@apemoon1731 How many rich people vote Labour 😆😂🤣
@@Silver-st2zq
How naive are you? I mean SERIOUSLY 🤦🏻♂️😅
Of course, the Labour party are all working class 😂😂😂😂
@@apemoon1731 Yet the Tories have still been voted into power more often why would Labour want any working class members they would never get into power, the rich and the thick as two short planks want the full fat Toff Tory variety.
For years the Conservative govt
Has received a free state financial subsidy from
6 million exhausted carers
Struggling with welfare austerity
Losing local authority services
This country needs political
Change
They had the nerve to say that carers Allowance had increased by £1500 a year since 2010! So about £107 each year! Pathetic.
broken country where the greedy rich sit on the money
England has got more miserable
Unless ur rich 😢
Wait till labour gets in then y will know real misery
Massively. It's much worse then the 80's.
@@tenniskinsella7768imagine being you, a shill for the super rich who want only to extort you. Gammon
Absolutely, and it's staying that way. Poverty stays, too.
The Guardian has done a survey in the new seat of Hitchin where there was 'almost unanimous in thinking it was time for change and used words such as “bleak”, “disaster” and “mess” to describe the state of the UK.' ... However, and this is a big however, 'they were still worried about taking a bet on Labour.' What does it take for voters to realise that they have been gaslighted by theses pirates in Number 10? The NHS is an institution that the Tories hate with a passion and they have proved this every years since it was formed back in 1948. Yet voters still trust them with it.
Same in Poole,Tory MP’s down here is almost Dynastic.It’s crazy when the locals always vote Tory and get nothing back.
I had a dentist for the first 60 years of my life , now for the past 4 years , nothing...you couldn't make it up...
Victoria Atkins was asked about dentists. She said more money had been put in. The interviewer said no you took money away. Then put it back in. That is not putting in more. Atkins obviously can't do maths. It was just deny deny deny. 3:33 3:33
Haven’t used dentist for 30 yrs just mouthwash and brush after every meal got own teeth at 63
@@Sharpy7562My mother over 90 used to say same thing. Dentists also look for anything abnormal in your mouth though. You need to be registered in case you do need them. Things tend to start going wrong after your 60's. Mostly with gums.
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Great guest - speaking the truth.
The tories don’t care
Look how Labour are treating there own members so I can assure you that they don't care about anyone else
One of the problems seems to be the lack of control over careful targeted spending. European countries who pay more tax eg Sweden, Germany receive better public services. The Tories sold off water, gas, electricity, railways and much more. What happened to the money they collected? The Tories have been too eager to appease their business friends by lower taxes.
A federal or independent Scotland from the rest of the UK sees the Scandi model as its future. Small nation, resource and business rich, high tax, high public services. This scares the Westminster bully squad tying us to a week past it's sell by date act of union. Love from 🏴
but did the last labour govt buy any utilities back they were on power for 13 years
The money from the sale of utilities was squandered on tax cuts & unemployment rather than infrastructure upgrades & training to improve peoples skills i.e. schools & adult education.
@@i-am-vonnegut, if you thought Brexit was chaotic, then Scottish independence will unleash chaos for both Scotland and England.
Tories are patting themselves on the back. They have delivered on their promises.
Making more money for themselves,and the bankers
Marmot says: "our services are in a miserable state because we don't want to pay for them." Doesn't he mean the shareholders have been allowed to run off with all the cash and to invest nothing? I don't mind paying more for trains, for instance, but first bring that money into national hands. I would bet we would pay less.
Shareholders are the new aristocracy.
Austerity was never meant to be temporary. It’s a permanent position now and is designed to make people work harder for longer.
The roads are dire
Everything is dire!
Mississippi is the poorest state of the Union.
Using GDP and other economic indicia, If the UK were to become the 51st state, Mississippi would no longer be the poorest, it would be the UK.
Geez.
Where would it have been under the last Labour government?
That's not quite true. You have to exclude London from the analysis to find that the UK is poorer than Mississippi. The other clarification is that, terrible as UK public services have become, they are considerably better than those in the USA. So although UK GDP (excluding London) is weaker than Ms, life expectancy, infant mortality and other indicators of quality of life are all better. There's a human development index which measures quality of life better than e.g. GDP per capita, UK does better than poor US states on those measures.
@teddansonLA Well, it's close to Mississippi. Mississippi GDP per capita is $49,911, and the UK is 51,075 according to the latest figures (this is for the whole country including London). So, the orginal comment is essentially true. Remember Mississippi is the MOST BACKWARD state in America. It does get any lower. So, the UK if it were to join the US as a stare wouldn't be much better than Mississippi. Second, Obamacare is way superior to the NHS. Since it's private healcare paid for by the government the wait times are minimal. Most of Mississippi poor have Obamacare and they get the best private care but the government foots the bill. America isn't stuck in the 90s anymore. It's a way different America now.
@@saiyedakhtar3931 _Second, Obamacare is way superior to the NHS_
I don't think so. Mississippi life expectancy (71.9 years) and infant mortality rate (9.4 deaths per 1000 live births) tell a story of deep poverty and neglect that GDP doesn't capture. The UK life expectancy is 80.7 years, and 3.9 deaths per live births is better than the USA as a whole. The NHS has massive problems caused by the last 15 years of neglect, but it beats the healthcare of Mississippi by some margin.
_So, the UK if it were to join the US as a stare wouldn't be much better than Mississippi_
On GDP, sure. But on human development index, the UK is so much better. I lived in NM, USA, for four years - that place was great if you had money, but I saw poverty there that I never saw in the UK. So no, the original post is still both wrong and naive.
I live in Blackpool, and we're barely expected to last beyond the current state pension age, it's really quite depressing.
The tories need to be held criminally liable. There should be major inquiries into the theft they've committed over the last 14 years
“We inherited a bunch of formulas from the Labour Party that shoved all the funding into deprived urban areas. That needed to be undone, I started the work of undoing that” - Rishi Sunak
Yes rich areas need the funding Labour gave it to poor areas! The Tories.
Were the Labour party not trying to improve conditions for the poorest areas in the country, you know like levelling up?
@@lizdocherty3067 They are not in charge of the funding are they!
History repeating itself. Anyone remember "The poor man of Europe." Ssh Brexit
Wealth inequality is the fundamental driving force behind the problems in the UK and in the rest of the western world. The number one question everyone should be asking is: "What are you going to do about wealth inequality?" and the blindingly obvious answer is to tax the super-wealthy, and if possible, reduce tax on those who's income comes from doing actual work.
As long as so much wealth is hoarded by a very small number of people, the situation is going to continue getting worse.
I'll be spending a few weeks in England soon .
My english partner and I we live in France .
We are very worried when in England ....what if we need to see a doctor or a dentist while we are there?
It can be done in less than 24 hours in France ...! Operations are carried out when you need them ..
My partner would not want to live in England again ! And yet,he loved his country very much ...very very sad !
Every single governmental decisions is to protect the interests of big corporations in which politicians have strong connections directly or undirectly themselves.
Press are to blame. They have just sat back and havnt questioned it. No accountability!
This is in my opinion backs up the reasons for staying at home.
It is the Tory press. Owned by offshore billionaires.
Most newspapers support the Tories
@@zetectic7968 exactly
They're not the "press" and they don't do journalism. They're propaganda outlets (most of them are loss-making), owned by billionaires, who brainwash the masses to vote against their own interests.
The media support only 1 party. The party that has has messed up over 14 years and put nothing right!
Don't forget the thousands of children from the poorest of families where the children will have to miss meals because they're not at school
Thank you..
An excellent analysis, thank you!
Only after living in other countries for extended periods have I realised how destitute and hopeless England is. The Tories have ripped the soul of the country and sold it to the highest bidder.
Poverty uk 2024
This is absolutely right, and important, and it should be one of the main things that is discussed during this election.
Vote out to help out. Vote Labour after 14 years of bull 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
We waste to much tax income just look at stuff like Rwanda policy £250+ million for nothing.
The graph is the opposite in Scotland. Investment in the NHS has reduced deprivation. The 20 poorest towns in the UK are all now in Northern England. 10 used to be in Scotland, going back 20 years ago.
That's no surprise. The north east of England has some of the poorest places in Europe, never mind the UK.
Wonder why I have been waiting for over 2 years for hip replacement op, and I am on the urgent list.
It’s a bit rich for the present high tax and austerity government to have pop at the opposition!
Tories do this especially before an election. No introspection with them. Just point a finger and blame.
Never, ever forget what the Tories have done.
People will criticise labour in 5 years saying oh you been in power for 5 years and only fixed certain things. But the reality is what labour face is vast from cladding thats unsafe to raac to sewage to a armed forces thats so ill equipped and short or troops its a joke to dentist basically non existing unless you go private. This country is absolutely on its knees crying out for something. That something can not be 5 more years of the tories
Yes ,: and people must remember that it will be a massive under takening to turn it around ,as the tories ahve incurred much debt from mis management of money..yet they blame the under classes saying they’ve wasted it..what diatribe and scapegoating of the poor .
It’s them looking after and investing in fancy projects and countries that already have high gdp ..they don’t need the money.
Money earned in this country should stay in it .
Agree no quick fix for the state this country is in, and with another Tory government no hope either. At least with Labour it will still be a hard job but we would have some hope for improvement. The only other thing we could do is advertise on eBay for someone to buy Britain and see how much we get offered.😅😅
Private dentist r not guaranteed either. I saw one last November I am still waiting to hear back. The work was going to cost £7k so I can onky assume they r earning so much they don't need to bother with such a minimum amount whereas to me it was going to be my savings plus a loan.
I had to get up & apologise for marking a brand new 60 grand Lexus that i accidently walked in front of yesterday. He accepted my excuse of " we're all in it together" - us brits eh! Blitz spirit an all tha eh!
Well we have increased the population by about 20% with mass immigration and the economy has grown about 5% in real terms so obviously there is less money to go around and services and housing are all overloaded. Did anyone actually think anything else would happen ?
Don’t forget we are overburdened with generously funded public services. Top council officials, police ranks and fire brigade senior management are these days in the millionaire category taking their pensions into account. The NHS continues to grow exponentially pandering to demands from society that even George Orwell couldn’t have foreseen 70 years ago. Council and civil service departments are out of control screaming for further growth funding for services that we did well without just a few years ago. Until we get real, the decline will continue until inevitable national bankruptcy.
Council tax needs reforming and should more closely linked to house values the bigger the house value the more you pay not the physical size of the house
We need at least 2 or 3 more Council tax bands but it will never happen because the rich will not pay more tax than the poor & middle class.
My property was practically worthless 25 years ago but now it's worth a relative fortune because it's in the lake District I work in construction and agriculture so don't earn a lot why should I be penalised because rich people pushing up property prices buying holiday homes ?
Margaret Thatcher started that. Messed it up so bad it was part of the reason it brought her down! A king should pay the same as a pauper. Tory ideas!!
We all get the same services it costs no more money to empty a bin from a big house than a small one!
@@BadlydrawnBenBecause you own a massively expensive asset. You have vast wealth there, mate.
There doesn't need to be more taxation to improve lives / tax revenues at curent levels.
Sort the price of everything out. Stop energy being so ridiculously expensive to stop cost-push inflation.
Sort the ridiculous property prices out by reforming planning laws, allowing way more houses to be built and have a national strategy for it (targeted in particularly bad areas for affordable housing).
The majority of most people's Incomes are being thrown into just paying for essentials. That needs to stop.
And close the tax avoidance loopholes, open only to the rich.
That's economic illiteracy I'm afraid. There are no simple fixes without more revenue at this point, not least due to the tremendous inefficiencies accumulated through underspend.
If any of the parties actually listened to public they would see that services are so broken that for the 1st time in my 45yr history people don't want tax cuts because the tax pays for the pitiful service we now get and cuts mean it will be worse. Yes debt is frightening but Britain not working is even more so. We don't mind paying if we get for what we pay for....things are properly ring fenced, projects stop wasting our money like HS2 ...went want things to work properly. And yet they want to make it worse.....now causing a the old to blame the young and cause division. And the Labour trying to compete in tax cuts with the tories just make us feel hopeless
Tories couldn't do that it would have affected the billions of profits for their donors and friends, privatised as much as they could in NHS, DWP in order to give contracts to their donors and friends. As for the rest of the people they should just be thankful for the pittance they get.
There were some of us who warned about this as early as 2010. Andrew Marr however had a prime time TV show and gleefully asked politicians of all colours how much more they could cut the size of the state. Yet here he is, rewarded with various well paid presenter’s roles
The Past Will Always Be The Reflection In The Future. The Present For Now, Being Buried the 7:20 Workers In Poverty. Which Future!!
It’s literally a horrible place to live! Unfortunately Tories have completely broken the country.
14 years of Tory government.
Well said Sir Michael in pointing out that “we” don’t want to pay for public services. We are a nation of hypocrites who complain about the state of everything but then complain about paying more tax. Where on earth do people think the money comes from to pay for all these things? There is no such things as “government money”. It’s all OUR money. The state of the country is OUR fault! We elected the Tory government, we elected them knowing that they had no interest in supporting the less well off, the sick, the disabled. It’s OUR fault!
Not everybody did!! Many knew it was the wrong thing last time but people wanted Brexit but forgot about the Party in charge who was supposed to get on with it. Despite their policies being bad. How sad was that?
Britain is miserable and poor because it chose to be.
How much his he raking in being a sir that one thing we should get rid
Simples money grabbing tories. They want the roads empty for there big V8s but no others.
What Sir MIchael doesn't talk about is sovereignty. So when you have that, health becomes unimportant.
The optimist in me says that more and more people know what's wrong with this country and why it happened. The pessimist says that even then the rich and middle classes won't be willing to pay more tax. We're stuck in a self-defeating loop. The current stealth tax rises feel unlikely to do anything but patch the holes until the next crisis.
Tories. Tories are always the reason. Strangely the super-rich billionairre 0.001% are doing fantastically. Richer and happier than ever.
Money goes to money. The rich get richer off the backs of the poor in hard times. Fact.
A Tory disgrace
Douglas Carswell's assessment of the reasons for the failure of the Conservative Party is wonderful. Vote Tory, get Social Democrats.
LBC is the new BBC..
In what sense?
@@jamescollins6085BBC used to state factual news. Now it is in the Tories pocket. Lets get true news when reported. Tell it like it is. NO BIAS.
A heathy nation is weathly and productive nation.
People had all the facts regarding Brexit at the time of the referendum, but they simply chose to ignore them,or were told that the experts were all wrong
There must be a plateau for life expectancy!
Why just because you get old doesn't mean you are useless, many people work past their retirement age in both paid and unpaid work, we will always have the sick both young and old and as a nation we should look after them, or would you rather tell older members of your family there time is up at 75, then someone will say that's too old let's make it 70 etc, etc.
“…the sicker the community, the more money we’re going to take from them” That _is_ pretty much what $nake said during his bid for the PM gig.
But the richest got even richer ???
This is the reality of 14 year of Tory governments: "Poland’s GDP per person could overtake the UK’s by the end of the decade. Slovenia could overtake the UK as early as next year." Imagine that: "Great" Britain will be overtaken by Slovenia next year. Britain is now a poor country with a few very rich people.
No it is very poor with quite a few rich people. The money people pay go where exactly?? To do what?? It's not going on services we really need.
@@janetmalcolm6191that's because the rich don't need them, they go private so why invest in services your voters don't use
@@lizdocherty3067Well same with social housing according to Cameron. Such a selfish attitude that stinks.
The UK's problems actually go back centuries. It's a hugely complex issue but at the heart of it is the UK's archaic institutions and, more importantly, the corresponding archaic backward mindset of its government and many of its people.
The truth is that the UK never had the kind of upheaval and revolution that its peers and rivals did. It was never forced to confront itself and does not have the honesty or bravery to do so now. And so it muddles along with a medieval establishment and an approach to its economy that is Georgian at best. It is not so much inspired by its past as enslaved by it.
No government is going to do enough to fix this country. It's utterly broken
You have to start somewhere like after WW2. Tories are NOT the ones to fix it. 14 years of being ground down with them blaming everything but themselves for it.
@janetmalcolm6191 Weirdly enough the end of WW2 was where it all started to go wrong. The UK had a golden opportunity to become Europe's leading power and it failed miserably. By the early 50s it was overtaken by Germany, a country that had been in utter ruins a few years previously.
@@jannenreuben7398You need to fast forward to more modern times. The rot set in about 10 years ago. The visable rot that is.
@janetmalcolm6191 I half agree with you but the UK in the late 70s was in dire straits too, possibly even more so. Governments of all hues have tried all sorts of tricks to disguise the underlying rot but they can only kick the can down the road for so long. I believe we are very close to the end of that road.
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Have Money for War but No Money for public services.
Yet some muppets will still vote tory.
2023. Foreign Direct investment in the UK, +6%. Across the EU as a whole, -4%. Says it all. Hooray for Brexit Britain.
She's quite amazing women, considering her political opponents are Public School and Oxbridge educated skilled in rhetoric.
Scotland has taken 300,000 children out of poverty. Sir Kid Starver is keeping the two child benefit cap.
I cannot take anyone serious who has sir or lord infront of their name.
Why?
That's an ad-hominem fallacy. You should consider the strength of the argument rather than the status of the person making it.
Thanks to DEI employment policies
Reall would like to see Marmot reset Worldwide Clinical Guidelines so that 70+ pay 100% for hospital care or hospitals stop giving them elective surgeries. We ne edd a conversation about who fill pathology, radiology, cancer and GP surgeries on NHS or free under Private Health Insurance to the detriment of working age people.
2014 Scottish indyref: BETTER TOGETHER. 😂
Yugoslavia 2.0
Brexit mostly. Uk is a joke
Lots of very richer tory thieves
Mark Twain: "It's easier to fool people than convince them they've been fooled." Brexiter types will continue to refuse to make the connection, such is their fear of being seen as fools. So it's in everyone's interest not to make fools of them but tell them they've been conned. Which is what's happened.
"The plan is to make England. the United Kingdom a better country"... well that sound pretty simple, doesn't it?
I hate Brexit but guess what ? The voters of the UK voted for it. Now tell me again is a political party is the UKs problem or it the people of the UK that are the problem ?
It's mostly the Murdock media that convinced people for decades the EU was evil.. dont patronise the people by saying there's something wrong with them.
The Govt we have can't govern. THAT is the problem. Ever heard of if you get handed lemons make lemonade? Not Tory thinking!!
Immigration has alot to do with the state of this country.
more reason for an inde vote
And have the Brexit advocates apologised yet?
Never will they have their sovereignty to dream on
Brexit was a symptom of Britain's decline, not the cause of it.
Brexit Britain, 2022. Fourth biggest exporter in the World. United Nations Figures.
Tax the rich
Vote out to help out. Vote Labour give them a chance we can always vote them out 😊😊😊
Watch your health work less fast eat healthy consume less be thrifty drug as l and minimsl for hess as luthier wealthier lifestyle stay away from health system if want to keep well and pharmruceuticdd as ls
Basically economic regressive policy for the Commons, our gracious King inherited billions and benevolence showed when he couldn't afford 1% for his Exchequer...Ideology here is a blatant excuse for big mistakes.
Tories are blue
Labour are too
Voting for either won't
alter the view. 😀
Lazy and boring
Nice haiku
England, the United Kingdom, a better country?
I'm sure he meant different but I'm kinda taking offence. Love from Scotland 🏴🖕
You lot need your independence and freedom and get rid of the gritters that is Westminster,,,
V@@amcc5887 Thank you, and when/if it does happen you are welcome to join us.
Starmer and labour offer absolutely nothing
BANNANA republic
At least we kept Jeremy Corbyn out
We need to send more money to Israel.
Labour won't achieve any substantial changes with Rachel Reeves as chancellor
All I want is Tories out out out,she can't do any worse than that other lot,,,
@@amcc5887 I understand that sentiment. But nothing much will change.
@@luke7708how do you know 😂
No it isnt. Lots of eu countries not doing that well well regarding tsx in the 1970 labour taxed more well off people so much there was a brain drainpeople going overseas
Thats labour dont like people getting on . Policies.of envy i cant stand. I know a womsn how husbsnd cant seem to get work but why does she waste money on smoking. This is not s popular view. I will be told off but sometimes poorer peoplebhave their priorities wrong
Correct. Its bs
Well off people are not the only people with brains... And rich people have their priorities wrong too like lining the pockets of their cronies and dodging tax.
Stop reading the Daily Mail