I am glad that I don't watch and train Taekwondo anymore what is this for fight style! Please Taekwondo goo home You don't deserve to be a fighting sport anymore
Tkd in the 90s, we'd have our hands up. It was hard, fast & effective. This is how you get messed up. Nowadays tkd is great for kids as a warm up to something more serious.
It's not about being rough and trying to kill the other person. This isn't mma or boxing. It's about strategy and precision. It's still a combat sport, just different tradition and rules.
@@Cpcp9696 yea it’s a trend for parents to drop off their children at a taekwondo school, like a daycare lol. Taekowndo IS dying and making way for martial arts such as MMA and BJJ (currently the fastest growing, and much more realistic).
@@TheSquirrleGuy ITF hasn’t been watered down as much as WT, but too call it “real and brutal” seems like an exaggeration. Have you seen modern ITF competitions? It’s not full contact, they wear way too much protection and the rules are way too many. Calling it brutal when there’s arts like Muay Thai, MMA, Lethwei, combat sambo? And I’m not saying that bjj should be used alone. It should most preferably be with a striking art. But at least having knowledge of what to do if you end up on the ground or how to defend against takedowns goes a long way.
Poor, poor, poor Taekwondo ... 😢😥😢😥😢 Poomse still goods and never gone but fighting became real s(h)it and demonstrations became freestyle gymnastic... 😢😥😢😥😢
Interesting. The ref doesn't allow the competition to descend into a 'scrum,' so both competitors are pretty much loose and relaxed, the entire fight. Taekwondo kicking takes advantage of more than just flexibility. A few kicks, in this bout, were from angles you only see with uppercuts. People might think these guys are kinda 'light weight' in terms of being a bad as's, but these guys don't walk around, in public, scared. Another interesting thing. I saw the photos, before the fight, and I noticed the Korean has a very long neck. Then they showed both fighters and the Tunisian guy has an even longer neck. This looks like a good sport fighting competition for people, who want to experiment with the reality of skill as a function of being loose and relaxed. MMA people know this is true, but when they fight, it descends into a scrum, pretty quickly. And when it does, both fighters spam conditioning, stamina, and aggression.
I hate Olympic sparring, it has always been a silly game far removed from actual martial arts. The electronic sensors made it even worse, since now the whole game has devolved into trying to get the sensors to react and give you points (using increasingly silly techniques to do so) instead of actually trying to defeat/damage your opponent. For the record - I have been doing Taekwondo since 1997 and am currently a 4th dan. I run a small school where we spar more similarly to kickboxing, because I refuse to partake in this embarrassing disgrace.
If you were talking about the ones at the beginning, it's to make sure the electronic chest pads and the electronic socks are calibrated correctly, the points are all based on electronic signals.
To add onto what Ruben said, there’s sensors on the feet as well, and when connected to the head/chest gear it gives the player a point. It’s how you get points during sparring. Kicking the chest piece gives you 2 points for each normal kick (roundhouse, cut kick, etc), and you get an additional 2 points if you add a spin to the kick (tornado kick/turning roundhouse, spinning hook kick, spinning/jumping back kick, etc). For head it’s 3 points, and adding a turn kick equals to 5 points. The chest and head are the only parts of the body that will get you points :) hope this helped a bit and answered your question
What the hell!!! I was active in TWD in the late 80's and early 90's - 6 years, red/black belt and took part in around 12 tournaments. Got knocked out twice in the times, team partner of mine got his jaw broken, my trainer broke one guys rip twice with a double dwit chagi. I know, it sounds like showing off, but on my grandmothers grave, it is true. WHAT THE HELL is this?? I've went after my TWD times to kick boxing and Jiu, so I haven't followed TWD anymore, but this is pathetic. It's slow and powerless. In kick boxing I ate so many jabs and crosses in the beginning, but everyone was carefull when I was in kicking range, this looks like an amateur first trial sparring. I feel ashamend for the sport.
Oui clairement ça le choque moi aussi j'ai commencé le taekondo en 2014 et même si c'est plus comme à l'époque les combat reste meilleur que ceux là j'ai l'impression que plus on est à haut niveau plus les combat deviennent ennuyeux car ça n'est pas celui qui fait les plus belles action qui gagne mais celui qui marque le plus de points malheureusement...comme un combat d'escrime
Concur! Got my black belt in 86, sparred in tournaments for a few years, swollen knees, shins, foot insteps, internal injuries even with a vest! There wasn't any mandatory head gears then, only need a vest & groin guard😁 That was the golden era of true TKD IMHO!
@@teovu5557 Someone said its because of the Olympics. They don´t wanna see knockouts like in 2004. Some others have said its because of the poor referee decisions. The ref couldn't keep up with the fast pace kicking, and because of that the olympic games could have seen as corrupt. I can see why they tried to change the point system but they also changed the entire sport. I hope TKD leaves Olympic sport and become its own again. 2007 world champ was the peak TKD which made me love it.
at this point, korea is being favourited every world cup. Every point korean players scores it counts, but like only 50% of points his opponent from another country is counted
@@ItsGibbon like a hit to the solar plexus. You know when you get punched with a cross or hook to that area? A real punch there can really make you gasp for air
@@ItsGibbon what was wrong about my question? What fighting do you train? I guess no one ever punched you there before? you think the Ryan garcia fight was rigged then?
I honestly think that someone with zero knowledge in taekwondo, who knew basic boxing could dominate the entire world of taekwondo. Just clinch up and throw a hard punch from the clinch.
Man your 💯 right on this. My son compete is TKD sparring and I am now starting to show him the importance of the punch. It’s very effective for scoring easy points. 👍🏾
tkd isn't a kick based martial art. sure there are a lot of kicks in tkd, but in old school tkd, we learn how to grapple, throw, kick, grab, punch, knee, elbow, etc. people don't seem to realize that tkd has a lot more to offer than just kicks
The problem with that is throwing a punch from the clinch exposes your head on the side you’re punching with and kicks to the head are 3 points whereas punches are only 1 point, not an ideal trade off
Didn’t ever expect TKD match this ugly nowadays.. you can easily get the point by touching slightly your foot to other’s head guard without any impact or using good kicking techniques… other time, you did good and strong dolyo chagi, make your opp bounce, but didn’t get any points just bcz the kit didn’t “sense” it… Good job WTF, keep going..
i was lucky enough to do real taekwondo in my life. not this crap. even with my years off I would sleep those fragile "competitors" that lead leg bs would get blasted thru
I want say to someone who say taekwondo fight its just like tom&jerry playing around, i told you with a simple word.. Why you don't you see old mma and now?
much better to see badminton with all the efforts to "strike down" rather than a "tag" game
🥲new rules have turned this fighting style into some sort of dance.. I miss the old style
You should have seen it in the 80's. It is an almost different martial art all together, at least in sparring.
It’s not the rules, it’s the settings of the electronic equipment
i bet they are not even 50kg
I am glad that I don't watch and train Taekwondo anymore what is this for fight style! Please Taekwondo goo home You don't deserve to be a fighting sport anymore
Tkd in the 90s, we'd have our hands up. It was hard, fast & effective.
This is how you get messed up.
Nowadays tkd is great for kids as a warm up to something more serious.
I miss the old tough tkd
same here
This is no TKD anymore. I trained in the 90s, there was action, spinning kicks and power.
Same here.
Bones and 5 kgs of total muscles dancing with each other
That's discrimation
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Taekvando bundan ibaret oldu esnek kemikler 🤣
Greetings from Tunisia 🇹🇳🤗
this is an actual stick fight lmao💀💀💀
Omg fr
This is NOT a fight between 2 men, this is just like Tom & Jerry playing around.... But, T&J is more fun than this fight.
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sorry but it seems like you don't understand the modern tkd sparring
hhhhhhh...........
It's not about being rough and trying to kill the other person. This isn't mma or boxing. It's about strategy and precision. It's still a combat sport, just different tradition and rules.
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bro i miss old tkd olympics destroyed what tkd was
I miss old taekwando
Do you know how and where i can learn the old taekwondo that you are talking about?
@@mustafa8912 go to north korea duh
RIP Taekwondo😭
Love the old school instead
Yeah, today's taekwondo too much rules, less aggressive too
Street beefs are way more fun to watch!
true
RIP taekwondo
@인수 Lol looks like a bunch of skinny losers using only kicks - they wouldn't win in any real fight
Yeah rip
@@Cpcp9696 yea it’s a trend for parents to drop off their children at a taekwondo school, like a daycare lol. Taekowndo IS dying and making way for martial arts such as MMA and BJJ (currently the fastest growing, and much more realistic).
@@silent_march8130 Bjj sucks vs 2 or more people lol. Wtf is fucked up but not itf taekwondo.
ITF is the main and real brutal one.
@@TheSquirrleGuy ITF hasn’t been watered down as much as WT, but too call it “real and brutal” seems like an exaggeration. Have you seen modern ITF competitions? It’s not full contact, they wear way too much protection and the rules are way too many. Calling it brutal when there’s arts like Muay Thai, MMA, Lethwei, combat sambo?
And I’m not saying that bjj should be used alone. It should most preferably be with a striking art. But at least having knowledge of what to do if you end up on the ground or how to defend against takedowns goes a long way.
ولد بلادي مشرفنا 🇹🇳🇹🇳🇹🇳
When I was a kid I was even fighting tougher than this
我是一個練跆拳道的人 改用電子護具真的差很多 比賽大概踢到就會有分數了 根本不須要什麼力氣 所以被說是體操真的不為過 我希望能拯救跆拳道 讓他們的力量回到戰場
This isn't what we call tkd, tkd is powerful this fight is like play fighting
I am apparently the world champion in taekwondo .. watching these grandmaters
What is this?
Poor, poor, poor Taekwondo
... 😢😥😢😥😢 Poomse still goods and never gone but fighting became real s(h)it and demonstrations became freestyle gymnastic... 😢😥😢😥😢
How did the punch at 5:57 not score? Are there no sensors in the middle of the chest protector?
The gloves are the ones that have no sensors
Maybe because it didn’t even look like a punch.
If they wont bring old taekwondo back, unfortunately nobody gonna watch this soon.
Interesting. The ref doesn't allow the competition to descend into a 'scrum,' so both competitors are pretty much loose and relaxed, the entire fight. Taekwondo kicking takes advantage of more than just flexibility. A few kicks, in this bout, were from angles you only see with uppercuts. People might think these guys are kinda 'light weight' in terms of being a bad as's, but these guys don't walk around, in public, scared. Another interesting thing. I saw the photos, before the fight, and I noticed the Korean has a very long neck. Then they showed both fighters and the Tunisian guy has an even longer neck. This looks like a good sport fighting competition for people, who want to experiment with the reality of skill as a function of being loose and relaxed. MMA people know this is true, but when they fight, it descends into a scrum, pretty quickly. And when it does, both fighters spam conditioning, stamina, and aggression.
These days taekwondo 🥋 fight is something else 😏
why the smirk? 💀
@@bribachopper is shit
I hate Olympic sparring, it has always been a silly game far removed from actual martial arts. The electronic sensors made it even worse, since now the whole game has devolved into trying to get the sensors to react and give you points (using increasingly silly techniques to do so) instead of actually trying to defeat/damage your opponent. For the record - I have been doing Taekwondo since 1997 and am currently a 4th dan. I run a small school where we spar more similarly to kickboxing, because I refuse to partake in this embarrassing disgrace.
What is this guys???
We were strong, we were fierce, we were TAEKWONDO! What are we now? People are looking down on us because of you.
big thanks..my favorite martial art
what is protection for ?
I can't believe the red one is under 58 KG 😅
What happened to TKD? Even Fencing looks more exciting
Can someone tell me what the kicks to the pad protection were or mean? I've never seen that before.
If you were talking about the ones at the beginning, it's to make sure the electronic chest pads and the electronic socks are calibrated correctly, the points are all based on electronic signals.
@@RubenMartinez-hd6gx that makes sense
To add onto what Ruben said, there’s sensors on the feet as well, and when connected to the head/chest gear it gives the player a point. It’s how you get points during sparring.
Kicking the chest piece gives you 2 points for each normal kick (roundhouse, cut kick, etc), and you get an additional 2 points if you add a spin to the kick (tornado kick/turning roundhouse, spinning hook kick, spinning/jumping back kick, etc). For head it’s 3 points, and adding a turn kick equals to 5 points.
The chest and head are the only parts of the body that will get you points :) hope this helped a bit and answered your question
man what happened to real sparring
That's not the tae kwon do I used to train. Can some one explain me why are they sparing like this???
what happened to TKD?
The grunts in TKD always make me laugh 😂
HASSSEEEE
BAACCCHHEEE!!!
Somebody tell me what was that
Вот это говнище! А когда то этот вид спорта был очень зрелищным и не лишенным эффективных действий .
У меня сын дрался с тунисцем этим...проиграл на пару очков...он красавчик конечна
What the hell!!! I was active in TWD in the late 80's and early 90's - 6 years, red/black belt and took part in around 12 tournaments. Got knocked out twice in the times, team partner of mine got his jaw broken, my trainer broke one guys rip twice with a double dwit chagi. I know, it sounds like showing off, but on my grandmothers grave, it is true. WHAT THE HELL is this?? I've went after my TWD times to kick boxing and Jiu, so I haven't followed TWD anymore, but this is pathetic. It's slow and powerless. In kick boxing I ate so many jabs and crosses in the beginning, but everyone was carefull when I was in kicking range, this looks like an amateur first trial sparring. I feel ashamend for the sport.
Oui clairement ça le choque moi aussi j'ai commencé le taekondo en 2014 et même si c'est plus comme à l'époque les combat reste meilleur que ceux là j'ai l'impression que plus on est à haut niveau plus les combat deviennent ennuyeux car ça n'est pas celui qui fait les plus belles action qui gagne mais celui qui marque le plus de points malheureusement...comme un combat d'escrime
agree....so pathethic...no more agressive, no more speed....just a stupid tap kick...
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Concur! Got my black belt in 86, sparred in tournaments for a few years, swollen knees, shins, foot insteps, internal injuries even with a vest! There wasn't any mandatory head gears then, only need a vest & groin guard😁 That was the golden era of true TKD IMHO!
why is it good that you are getting injured? like getting knocked out or a jaw being broken isn't cool or bad ass bro
I am really sorry for Muhammed kali 😢
Nowadays Taekwondo looks pathetic
Agreed. Leg fencing is extremely boring!!!
I used to do TKD in 2006-08. Its nothing like this anymore. What a joke
It's sad
@@catha86 i did TKD in the 90s...........Almost seems like a different sport nowadays...omg what happened????
@@teovu5557 Someone said its because of the Olympics. They don´t wanna see knockouts like in 2004. Some others have said its because of the poor referee decisions. The ref couldn't keep up with the fast pace kicking, and because of that the olympic games could have seen as corrupt. I can see why they tried to change the point system but they also changed the entire sport. I hope TKD leaves Olympic sport and become its own again. 2007 world champ was the peak TKD which made me love it.
Is this really a teakwondo fighting?
at this point, korea is being favourited every world cup. Every point korean players scores it counts, but like only 50% of points his opponent from another country is counted
What in the stick and flings is this????
Siamo molto lontani dalle arti Marziali! Questa disciplina deve sparire dalla disciplina olimpica...
Can someone wake me up when something interesting happens?
they look skinny as heck...
The Turkish man looks like the mix of Bruno and Ozil😂
He is not Turkish, he is Tunisian. 🇹🇳 Not 🇹🇷
😂lol
We both think the same 😂
haha and you are like a stupid because its tunisia not turkey🤣🤣
yeah first time i saw him i was like : that's bruno lite over there 😂😂
They just keeling the real taekwondo . Like twoo , are dancing WTF this how it becomes playing !!!!!!
I swear every TKD video has at least one nerd complaining about modern TKD
But you seem to be the ONLY one not complaining about modern tkd.
@@oomz1975 my coach told me to watch this video to learn the new rules
@@kermit1211 that's cool but if you watch 90s tkd videos, you'll see what everyone is on about.
@@oomz1975 I know what everyone is on about. But people who usually say this have zero clue on what’s happening in this fight.
@@kermit1211 save your stamina, front leg kick to the head 3 point easy and repeat..
I remember I was in final at taekwondo champ I lost on purpose
Who got involved in tae kwon do???
They should remove tkd from olympics. They fucking ruined it. Remove the fucking electronics and give points according to power and style
Are punches to the chest allowed? Like power straight punches. Or left hooks? I think that could knock the wind out of someone
bro what do you mean knock the wind out of someone lmao
@@ItsGibbon like a hit to the solar plexus. You know when you get punched with a cross or hook to that area? A real punch there can really make you gasp for air
@@myaoyorozu2512 sound's like you've never trained fighting ever
@@ItsGibbon what was wrong about my question? What fighting do you train? I guess no one ever punched you there before? you think the Ryan garcia fight was rigged then?
@@ItsGibbon if you train MMA or kickboxing, then you would understand what I’m asking. A punch to the liver can completely stop someone
I have seen Something totally different then i have expected
This is sad😩😩 kyokushin here l come
Nothing like what it used to be in the 80s; day & night difference. More like an exhibition🤣
I just imagine my sensei tearing his eyes watching this
I honestly think that someone with zero knowledge in taekwondo, who knew basic boxing could dominate the entire world of taekwondo. Just clinch up and throw a hard punch from the clinch.
Man your 💯 right on this. My son compete is TKD sparring and I am now starting to show him the importance of the punch. It’s very effective for scoring easy points. 👍🏾
False. There are still a lot of knockouts artists in TKD
tkd isn't a kick based martial art. sure there are a lot of kicks in tkd, but in old school tkd, we learn how to grapple, throw, kick, grab, punch, knee, elbow, etc. people don't seem to realize that tkd has a lot more to offer than just kicks
The problem with that is throwing a punch from the clinch exposes your head on the side you’re punching with and kicks to the head are 3 points whereas punches are only 1 point, not an ideal trade off
@@devinneudeck7637 i think he meant if a boxer vs a tkd fight without rules
They are playing casually
Koreans never lose
what kind of kicks are those..!!??? man..!! all people who practice new school are all babies..!!
I miss the old style
Love from Nepal 🇳🇵
Its the rules that make this sport lnpractical
Thats why ITF Taekwondo is better
Didn’t ever expect TKD match this ugly nowadays.. you can easily get the point by touching slightly your foot to other’s head guard without any impact or using good kicking techniques… other time, you did good and strong dolyo chagi, make your opp bounce, but didn’t get any points just bcz the kit didn’t “sense” it…
Good job WTF, keep going..
-58kg but 1,85m?
Pinocchio doing ballet....sad.
what is this
is this touch sparing
My spinning kicks are more advanced than this and I'm 12 and a blue belt
Go and do the whole process of training and fighting experienced oponents before compairing yourself to them.
Modesty never hurts.
ppl in the comment section are judging TKD based on this video only lol, such a comedy.
Were they asleep?
Pov: When i see This I Go Search TKD in 90s is Look Cool make me Respect Than This Fun TKD In This video 😂
i was lucky enough to do real taekwondo in my life. not this crap. even with my years off I would sleep those fragile "competitors" that lead leg bs would get blasted thru
What a shame 👀 this is not FIGHTING, this is soft touch with jiggle jiggle or something else. Sad about this great Sport
this is just foot tag
foot fencing
this looks like a Charlie Chaplin stint. taekwondo used to be a a tough sport (both ITF and WTF), what the hell happened?
is very good
Lol thought this was a neck-length contest
Tahya Tunis 🇹🇳🇹🇳
Боже, они ещё и шлема на эти танцы надевают, логика покинула чат.
Skeleton minecraft sound*
R. I. P twd đánh bây giờ như công nghệ
Taekwondo used to be fun. Taekwondo then is about Speed and power now it's just boring.
No more to the Korean referee committees that invaded the Olympics and competitions with the excuse of Taekwondo as our Korean national sport.
wanna see some skeletons slap each other with their feet?
Few more years, and muay thai will eat TKD's popularity.
Already has, I think. Just look at MMA culture. Muay is hype and popular, most don’t even mention tkd in viable martial arts conversations.
♥️♥️🇹🇳🇹🇳
Bring back TDK
I want say to someone who say taekwondo fight its just like tom&jerry playing around, i told you with a simple word..
Why you don't you see old mma and now?
just admit, you also disappointed with this new TKD rule
WTF was I watching here??
finally a grand Prix again :)
these guy needs some protein 🤣
Hit and loud, hit and loud... Bah...
I'd rather watch ufc
wtf is this? this isn't the taekwondo I saw as a kid with full contact sparring