A few corrections and additions: 2:14 - The 1972 cargo door blowout incident was not a test flight, but a passenger revenue flight, American Airlines flight 96. A blowout did occur during the DC-10s ground testing, but that happened before certification and did not result in the service bulletin. Also as someone else pointed out, that footage was from the 1989 Sioux City crash. Turkish 191 resulted in an Airworthiness Directive (AD, for short), which is basically a legal order from the FAA to remedy an unsafe condition in an aircraft. The AD enforced a change to the cargo door latching mechanism to both be retrofitted to DC-10s already in operation, and be implemented in the production of all future DC-10s.
I 1st flew on DC10 in 1987 from London Gatwick to Orlando and back on a budget airline called CalAir (Once part of British Caledonian Airways). Was my 1st holiday ever. Again in 1989 to same place but airline was rebranded Novair to after BCal was acquired by BA as a new chartered airline called Caledonian Airways was formed so CalAir changed it name coz BA didn't want anything to do with CalAir. Holiday was sadly ruined something I want to forget about. But in 1991 went on a British Airways one from Gatwick to Los Angeles and was my most memorable holiday. On the day in July turned 14th and celebrated my birthday on board. The DC10 was a former British Caledonian plane after BA inherited their fleet from late 1987
From 1976 through the 80s the DC 10 was the fleet of eastern airline. I watched Central Florida grow during that time and that was the plane of choice to bring in the tourist.
My first ride on a DC-10 was actually on a U.S. Air Force KC-10 Tanker. We took off one cold December morning from Eilson A.F.B., just south of North Pole, Alaska direct non-stop to Plattsburg A.F.B., in upstate New York; deplaned while the plane took on fuel; reboarded Her and then direct to K.I. Sawyer A.F.B. in Marquette, MI. My total cost: $10.00. My final destination was Detroit, MI. I flew standby on the now defunct Republic Airlines from Marquette to Detroit for $90.
I love the DC 10 and the MD 11 I used to take National Airlines to Fort Lauderdale on a DC-10 the wonderful aircraft and included with Eastern on the l1011 to Fort Lauderdale they were great aircrafts I love them both
I once flew on a DC-10 in 1985. It was on Northwest Orient Airlines from San Francisco to Honolulu Hawaii round-trip. What a beautiful spacious luxurious wonderful reliable aircraft to on to the Hawaiian Islands and back. ❤
I have a summer memory to share. In the summer of 2000, I and my dad flew on a Hawaiian Airlines DC-10 flight from Seattle to Honolulu. The DC-10 was N135AA which later flew for American Airlines and FedEx before retiring in 2020.
I dont know why but im happy to see those birds still in use and flying. Always had a soft spot for that design and wish it never went away, just evolved.
You might consider performing a bit more research on the cargo door item (if desired). The family of one of the victims obtained the internal emails citing the fact that the 'C'-closure could show as locked; but was - in fact - not locked. I enjoyed my one trip on a DC-10; but much preferred the Lockheed L-1011 (it even had 'star trek'-like doors - disappearing into the cabin ceiling)
Yes it did Thank you for pointing these out. And I am taking every feedback I can to make sure I give the most detailed and accurate information next time
@ I loved the icy mountains of Greenland we had to divert a little there was a storm and lots of turbulence but it was my first flight and I didn’t know any better
I think a lot of problems that plague these aircraft manufacturers (Boeing, MD, LM, etc) stem from the fact none of these companies are currently run by people who's name is on the building. The creators of these companies took pride in what they built and had to produce the best they could because they named their companies after themselves, and if something went wrong, they'd have to carry that. But now, with all these rotating in and out CEOs no one knows, they can screw up the company, collect their bonus for doing nothing, and move on without carrying the stink of sharing their name with the company they ruined, making it harder to make the connection for most people. When Ford stopped having a Ford descendent at the helm, the company really started to dive. There's pride in ownership when it's your name in bright lights.
I think after McDonnell got together with Boeing they realized there was no need to keep making the MD 11 since the 777 was now coming out and it was basically the same size but with just 2 engines so the basically just stuck the DC 10 nose on the C17 with a few modifications
Well done, just a small correction. The design of the DC-10 was a significant contributory factor in the Chicago crash. The main difference is that the improper maintenance was considered much more central than in the Paris crash. Indeed, most don't even know the full story of Turkish Airline's rogue tinkering with the cargo door system.
Maybe if the mechanics hadn't improperly removed & then reinstalled the #1 engine on the AA DC-10 the ORD accident wouldn't have happened. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the design of the DC-10.
@@mrk3032 The design was indeed cited as a contributory cause. It's right there on page three of the NTSB report. The wing slat system was found deficient. With a well built design, the physical detachment of a pylon/engine should not cause an airplane to roll over and play dead.
Improper maintenance caused the ORD crash, not design. The AA Windsor incident was nearly identical to the Turkish crash, but they were able to land. The cargo door was redesigned after these two incidents. The Sioux City crash was due to an engine fan disc failure. Overall the DC-10 was a reliable and safe aircraft .
Swiss Air 111 was caused by an aftermarket entertainment system which overheated and caught fire. MD can be faulted partially for that fire due to the then industry wide use of mylar insulation which is flammable.....It has since been banned.
I guess I'll just have to do alot more research on it and make a video next week But I'd agree. This plane was a good, better than the 737 max, it just had human error problems
There are literally zero KC10s in operation today (Dec 2024). This channel sucks, ai generated crap In a 26 September 2024 ceremony, Travis Air Force Base bid farewell to the KC-10 Extender, marking the end of a 44-year chapter of aerial refuelling & has officially been retired from the US Air Force after more than four decades of service.
Yes the KC 10 retired in September. I have had this script for quite a while. And although the voice over is AI generated, the research isn't. And thank you for taking your time to point it out, I deeply appreciate
2:14 is footage from the United Airlines flight 232 Sioux City, Iowa crash of 1989.
Thank you for pointing that out for me, I deeply appreciate. I will work on future videos to eliminate visual mistakes like that one
A few corrections and additions:
2:14 - The 1972 cargo door blowout incident was not a test flight, but a passenger revenue flight, American Airlines flight 96. A blowout did occur during the DC-10s ground testing, but that happened before certification and did not result in the service bulletin. Also as someone else pointed out, that footage was from the 1989 Sioux City crash.
Turkish 191 resulted in an Airworthiness Directive (AD, for short), which is basically a legal order from the FAA to remedy an unsafe condition in an aircraft. The AD enforced a change to the cargo door latching mechanism to both be retrofitted to DC-10s already in operation, and be implemented in the production of all future DC-10s.
Thank you for taking your time to point that out. I do appreciate. In the future in more effort and time in my research
191 was the American airlines disaster in 1979. Turkish airlines 981
Thank you 😊
Dc-10 is one of the coolest plane ever!
Some call it the Death Cruiser 10.
@ It has some problems in the past. There is nothing like this plane.
The DC-10 was a beautiful design, especially it's tail.
No doubt
I 1st flew on DC10 in 1987 from London Gatwick to Orlando and back on a budget airline called CalAir (Once part of British Caledonian Airways). Was my 1st holiday ever. Again in 1989 to same place but airline was rebranded Novair to after BCal was acquired by BA as a new chartered airline called Caledonian Airways was formed so CalAir changed it name coz BA didn't want anything to do with CalAir. Holiday was sadly ruined something I want to forget about. But in 1991 went on a British Airways one from Gatwick to Los Angeles and was my most memorable holiday. On the day in July turned 14th and celebrated my birthday on board. The DC10 was a former British Caledonian plane after BA inherited their fleet from late 1987
From 1976 through the 80s the DC 10 was the fleet of eastern airline. I watched Central Florida grow during that time and that was the plane of choice to bring in the tourist.
My first ride on a DC-10 was actually on a U.S. Air Force KC-10 Tanker. We took off one cold December morning from Eilson A.F.B., just south of North Pole, Alaska direct non-stop to Plattsburg A.F.B., in upstate New York; deplaned while the plane took on fuel; reboarded Her and then direct to K.I. Sawyer A.F.B. in Marquette, MI. My total cost: $10.00. My final destination was Detroit, MI. I flew standby on the now defunct Republic Airlines from Marquette to Detroit for $90.
Thank you for sharing your experience 😊
As a flight attendant I would work on DC10s from NYC TO AMS New York to Amsterdam.😊😊😊
You must have had such an history with it
I love the DC 10 and the MD 11 I used to take National Airlines to Fort Lauderdale on a DC-10 the wonderful aircraft and included with Eastern on the l1011 to Fort Lauderdale they were great aircrafts I love them both
I never had the pleasure to fly them, but I'd suggest they'd be really smooth
I once flew on a DC-10 in 1985. It was on Northwest Orient Airlines from San Francisco to Honolulu Hawaii round-trip. What a beautiful spacious luxurious wonderful reliable aircraft to on to the Hawaiian Islands and back. ❤
The third engine would give some peace of mind
I have a summer memory to share. In the summer of 2000, I and my dad flew on a Hawaiian Airlines DC-10 flight from Seattle to Honolulu. The DC-10 was N135AA which later flew for American Airlines and FedEx before retiring in 2020.
How was the flight experience compared to competitors?
Awesome memory ❤️. Thank you for sharing
@ As far as I can remember 24 years ago, the ride was pleasant.
I flew on a DC-10 round trip on Hawaiian airlines in 1996 from Portland, oregon, to Honolulu Hawaii.
I dont know why but im happy to see those birds still in use and flying. Always had a soft spot for that design and wish it never went away, just evolved.
They are quite unique in terms of design
@@Aircraftfog Yes and looks super cool in Military colors. Like it was meant to be.
You might consider performing a bit more research on the cargo door item (if desired). The family of one of the victims obtained the internal emails citing the fact that the 'C'-closure could show as locked; but was - in fact - not locked. I enjoyed my one trip on a DC-10; but much preferred the Lockheed L-1011 (it even had 'star trek'-like doors - disappearing into the cabin ceiling)
Yes it did
Thank you for pointing these out. And I am taking every feedback I can to make sure I give the most detailed and accurate information next time
I flew on the DC-10 10 from San Fransisco to Hawaii on Jan of 1999 it was operated by Sky Service USA.
Awesome
In 1982 I was seventeen I flew on ward air DC10 from prestwick airport to Calgary Alberta to visit family greetings from Scotland 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
That's awesome, if you still remember the experience, how would you describe it?
@ I loved the icy mountains of Greenland we had to divert a little there was a storm and lots of turbulence but it was my first flight and I didn’t know any better
@ianstewartorr8455 thank you for sharing our experience 😊
If I ever won a lottery I would try to buy a DC-10 or MD11 as my personal charter
that'd be a really big purchase
I think a lot of problems that plague these aircraft manufacturers (Boeing, MD, LM, etc) stem from the fact none of these companies are currently run by people who's name is on the building. The creators of these companies took pride in what they built and had to produce the best they could because they named their companies after themselves, and if something went wrong, they'd have to carry that. But now, with all these rotating in and out CEOs no one knows, they can screw up the company, collect their bonus for doing nothing, and move on without carrying the stink of sharing their name with the company they ruined, making it harder to make the connection for most people.
When Ford stopped having a Ford descendent at the helm, the company really started to dive. There's pride in ownership when it's your name in bright lights.
Thank you for this information. I'll sure use it as research for my Boeing saga video
Both Iraq deployments had me on both DC 10 and MD1 2009 and 2011
Nice to see you have experiences in both. Was there anything that stood out to you about them?
Omni Air
I worked on them for years at American Airlines. ETOPS means…
Engines Turn Or People Swim!
That is 100% the meaning of ETOPS.
Happy new week 😊
ETOPS stands for Extended, Twin, Operated Performance, System. I've M@sturbated when you say Eng Turn or Peo Sw.
@@Perich29
You are indeed a special person.
I think after McDonnell got together with Boeing they realized there was no need to keep making the MD 11 since the 777 was now coming out and it was basically the same size but with just 2 engines so the basically just stuck the DC 10 nose on the C17 with a few modifications
That's a great angle to look at it
Plane'N'Boom did not animate those crashes...they just stole the animations from Mayday and Air Crash Investigation.
Thank you.
I'll update it in the description and give the the credit to the appropriate person
i’d rather fly on the Lockheed L-1011… exceptionally comfortable and reliable.
Well done, just a small correction. The design of the DC-10 was a significant contributory factor in the Chicago crash. The main difference is that the improper maintenance was considered much more central than in the Paris crash. Indeed, most don't even know the full story of Turkish Airline's rogue tinkering with the cargo door system.
Thank you pointing that out. I deeply appreciate
Maybe if the mechanics hadn't improperly removed & then reinstalled the #1 engine on the AA DC-10 the ORD accident wouldn't have happened. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the design of the DC-10.
@mrk3032 these accidents were all human errors and negligence
@@mrk3032
The design was indeed cited as a contributory cause. It's right there on page three of the NTSB report. The wing slat system was found deficient. With a well built design, the physical detachment of a pylon/engine should not cause an airplane to roll over and play dead.
Improper maintenance caused the ORD crash, not design. The AA Windsor incident was nearly identical to the Turkish crash, but they were able to land. The cargo door was redesigned after these two incidents. The Sioux City crash was due to an engine fan disc failure. Overall the DC-10 was a reliable and safe aircraft .
DC-10
AKA
Death Cruiser-10
Lol, what happens when you rush to be first.
The l-1011 was it's stack opposite
Do not mention swiss air 111 around McDonnell Douglas
They did own some
Swiss Air 111 was caused by an aftermarket entertainment system which overheated and caught fire. MD can be faulted partially for that fire due to the then industry wide use of mylar insulation which is flammable.....It has since been banned.
All KC10s have been retired
Yes, on September of this year
The Lockheed TriStar was a much better plane!!
I guess I'll just have to do alot more research on it and make a video next week
But I'd agree.
This plane was a good, better than the 737 max, it just had human error problems
I flew on Delta Airline Lockeed Tristar from LAX to Hawaii back in 1994.
Wrong KC-10 have all been retired
Yes. September this year
I used order source for my research and didn't double check one things. My bad
Also the crash of the Swissair MD-11 over Nova Scotia.
There are literally zero KC10s in operation today (Dec 2024). This channel sucks, ai generated crap
In a 26 September 2024 ceremony, Travis Air Force Base bid farewell to the KC-10 Extender, marking the end of a 44-year chapter of aerial refuelling & has officially been retired from the US Air Force after more than four decades of service.
Yes the KC 10 retired in September.
I have had this script for quite a while. And although the voice over is AI generated, the research isn't.
And thank you for taking your time to point it out, I deeply appreciate
Death Chamber 10
Not as bad as Boeing 787 max
@@Aircraftfog 787 max?
Haha, I meant the 737 Max. I'm currently doing research on it, so the caffeine is definitely kicking in.
@@Aircraftfog
Isn't it ironic that both the 737Max and DC-10 issues resulted in exactly 346 deaths.