I’m 68 and last few years decided not to hunt much in sept and October. I have 5 farms in south east Nebraska 1000s of acres all to my self mostly family farms and a few from church. I live in Missouri and hunt last week of October and first 2 weeks of November. I have 28 ladder stands and have been saddle hunting for 30 years so unlimited trees to hunt from. I pretty much hunt where I feel like and play the wind, only have 3 cameras out and just like to see what shows up. My hunting life is simple. I do have 29 bucks on the wall and only one is PY but they are all a trophy to me. Good luck to all. 🏹🦌
Ive found very few rubs on our farms that has the most pictures of up and coming and mature bucks, 1 other farm has a couple rubs and i just went on a speed scouting mission yesterday on a 750 acre public piece in my county and found more rubs than ive seen anywhere else. Got a picture of a super small fawn with a lot of spots on it still also. Seeing just as many scrapes as ever on our private pieces though. But i have to say ive noticed we dont have nearly the rubs we had back 20 years ago. I appreciate everything you guys do.
Completely agree. I've done it, did it this morning out of just being excited to get out there. Seen plenty of deer but buck just seem to disappear. I see them but not in the same places. Their food sources are shifting as well.
I just got a nice 10 point only hunting the pm... I've been patterning since August... My season started October 1st... My second day hunting, I was in the right place at the right time and the right wind... Early season success...
I’ve had the opposite experience this season, I’ve seen plenty of rubs but way less scrapes than I usually would. I’m not terribly far from where you are here in Missouri
Prayers for your friend young one. We've killed 4 mature bucks last 10 years in October but all evenings. Am is tough. Did miss a gross 250" non typical on an October morning hunt though. Hunted him for 3 seasons.
I’m in TN. I’ve seen more rubs than what I would call normal on two farms I hunt, with almost nothing on the home farm. The two farms have a few decent 3-4 year olds while the home farm occasionally sees a ghostly buck I know to be 5 as well as several around 2-3. I do not hunt mornings until the cold starts. Never killed anything decent untill the end of October in the mornings.
We actually don’t edit anything out. If you hear areas that are chopped it is one of two reasons 1.) don’s internet isn’t the best and it stalls or 2.) i run the video file and through a software that takes out the Umms and pauses that we have while recording. That process takes a 3 hour editing project into a 1 minute software function but it is a tad choppier. Everything we say stays in the recording though. Thanks for listening.
Can you talk about more of aging deer in still terrible about aging I tried watching people on you tube about it but I trust your judgment call better lol thank you for all the info and the pod cast love listen to these !!
Well. I smoked one of my old wide target bucks in the first 15 min of opening morning. I hunted the rain the whole rest of the week with a doe tag basically just to watch deer since I was on Hunting Vacation. Saw a bunch of nice 2 yr olds in the evenings. Never saw another older buck. Sooo that advice would have cost me dearly.
I had a giant and several bucks chase a doe the same but this was in late September and actually had a trail cam pic of the 200 inch buck I shot was breeding that doe at night. I know cattle mess around all times of year but that buck tended that doe for a week. I always wondered if anyone else ever experienced that.
I lost 16 ,30-50 foot white oaks and red oak trees in storm uprooting most of them , deer not showing up sent storm have 37 trees down in East Tennessee
Sorry to hear that. Count your blessings. I was in Vidalia GA this past week and the timber is devastated down there. Many folks still without water or power.
Well I think you need to be in the correct locations. The biggest one I have eyes on could have been shot second morning of season. Why would you not hunt the deer if he’s killable
Problem for some like us in Maine archery season is basically October. Opening day was yesterday oct-5 and we can't hunt Sundays at all. Gun season starts November -2 but before that youth gun day is October 25&26 and it's great to give young kids a couple days alone but oct-5 to Oct-25 minus Sundays doesnt even give bow hunters a full three weeks before the orange army comes out. And the state changed it a few years back so crossbows are allowed in archery season now which is a whole nother issue. If your disabled I understand but if your a capable 20something or 30something year old no. Everytime I'm at Cabela's or other sporting stores I see 3-4 people walking out with crossbows , and I'm sure most never archery hunted before but now they use a crossbow it's an extra season for them. It has a scope and trigger shouldn't be in archery season. So add that all together and rule out mornings that really limiting the chance of getting a good buck with a bow. I wish Maine did somethings, a lot of things different but it's all about the money to them.
maybe that doe identified as being in heat? Haha jk. I've seen studies where a doe comes into heat at the same time every year with 7 days one way or another. Makes sense to me cause I see fawns on my cameras born in May/June all the way to late August. Every year. On another note We have a fair amount of apple trees on our property, mature apple trees and most years I can fill a trash can every evening and dump it to my pigs but this year maybe 10 apples in each tree. I dunno if we had a late frost or I do know we had a very dry june & July , I got worried and against my judgement walked out into to the woods to check the oaks and make sure we had acorns . That about it for natural food on our property apples and acorns and had me worried. Any ideas ? Never seen it, every year these apple trees produce 1000s.
I don’t get why so many of these guys say don’t hunt the morning?? I could understand if you only hunted on a food source. Mornings you can use the thermos to your advantage. I’m not a professional hunter & I’ve killed 7 bucks all pope & young class deer ranging from 132 to 166 5/8 all with a bow all in the morning. Not everybody can sit around & take off time from work just to hunt evenings. I hunt the wind & when I can. Yes I have killed 13 big bucks in the evenings but I contribute that to the rut. I’ve killed several big bucks on mid day from all day sits. My point is, don’t let some professional hunter tell you how to hunt take bits and pieces from their advice. Always hunt the wind, pay attention to your entrance and departure that has a lot to do with it and different trains need to be hunted differently. sometimes you have to split the wind because a big buck is more comfortable, moving when the windows in his favor meaning if it’s in your favor, it’s not as likely to see him. my advice is to hunt smart & don’t take chances on pushing your target buck onto the neighbors property
Yea right it's gonna be 80 today down to 41 tonight high of 60 for the next 3 days and down into the mid 30s so you think them deer ain't gonna be moving in the mornings 🤣🤣 yea I guess they'll say anything to get views
Sorry Don, I disagree. If a high pressure cold front comes through on a good moon phase I'd much rather be in a tree than being lazy and not going. I've seen the Druys, Winke, and Lakosky all hunt mornings and all have killed big bucks in the morning in early October. Maybe a little more good deer are killed in the evenings, but bet your hind end there a plenty of good deer put down in the morning. I'm not saying to go all the time either just the days the stars line up. Monday morning, when here in southern Indiana the temperature drop from Sunday evening is going to be a 35 degree drop. Add the fact it's a good moon phase. I'll be in a tree my first time this year. Oh and my success rate is about 50/50 evenings vs mornings. I think the way the property you hunt lays out has something to do with that rate. Maybe, you Don haven't had good morning luck while I know for a fact Mark Drury had killed probably more deer in the mornings than in the evenings. Ima nobody as you would put it but I'm being honest here I think telling people not to hunt mornings is wrong. Again, just for you and the way your property dictates hunts doesn't mean that's the same for everyone else.... I love learning things from you but I'm also the type to not sit back and not speak my mind. Now I'm on a mission to shoot one in the morning just to have your so called proof. I think that's a little hard headed. Also Mike Reed from Midwest whietail has also killed giants in the mornings. I only hunt cold fronts in October though so I am not one that hunts all October.
100%. Maybe the reason Don doesn't kill in the morning is because he's not in the tree. Same with the moon guys that only kill on a red moon because that's when they hunt. I'm not saying go hunt whenever but you can definitely kill October mornings if conditions are right, and weather is often beautiful to sit in a tree October mornings.
I actually stopped hunting mornings before I had my property. That was based on hunting permission properties and public lands way back in the day. Obviously, everyone is entitled to their opinion but without the proof on the wall .... How about seeing if you can get one of the hunters you named to go on the record saying that they have had more success on October morning hunts than October evenings??? Anyway, best of luck to you this season no matter when you choose to hunt.
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147 every property is different Dom. And I have heard Mark say this before. Not necessarily that early season mornings are better but that any morning on a cold front is good. I think it really depends on the way the property lays, the wind direction, and where they like to bed. In the right circumstances it could be a better morning property than evening property or vice versa. It really just depends because where I'm from the predominant wind is from the south west whereas Iowa for example is from the north west. KY more from the south it just depends. I'm also not saying that I go sit every morning I have yet to sit. I was waiting for the right moon phase and just so happens that a cold front happens on the second day of a red moon. I can access the bedding area without bumping them. And it's far enough away that I should catch daylight movement. We shall see. Thanks for responding Dom Goodluck to you I hope you kill the buck you named after the same person I was named!
I feel like I might have listened to a different podcast based on these comments. My take on Don’s advice was “rarely” are October mornings worth the risk of educating a target buck. His farm is less than 200 acres so he picks the best days to hunt. I’m certain he actually knows what he’s talking about.
He's just giving you his opinion on the subject. If you enjoy to hunt, just to hunt, then go out in early October mornings. Just know that it almost always does more harm than good, if you are into killing mature bucks. I agree with him 100% on this subject. I wouldn't ever hunt an Oct morn until about the 25th, provided it's a cold snap. Anyhow, good luck to you sir!!
Mature bucks move in the mornings especially when the day winds pick up and thermals change hunting mornings for mature bucks in early October underneath a destination feed tree is absolutely killer stop listening to everyone else OPINION. Woodsmanship trumps TH-cam advice tremendously
Tony is high quality individual. He knows deer .and how to hold them on property. Dan is one of those guys. There are a few. my thot is only pretenders have to bash others to try making them look good . They don't look good.
Im enjoying the chasing giants t.v. daily shows, and always enjoy the podcast. Thanks guys. Good luck this season!
I’m 68 and last few years decided not to hunt much in sept and October. I have 5 farms in south east Nebraska 1000s of acres all to my self mostly family farms and a few from church. I live in Missouri and hunt last week of October and first 2 weeks of November. I have 28 ladder stands and have been saddle hunting for 30 years so unlimited trees to hunt from. I pretty much hunt where I feel like and play the wind, only have 3 cameras out and just like to see what shows up. My hunting life is simple. I do have 29 bucks on the wall and only one is PY but they are all a trophy to me. Good luck to all.
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Ive found very few rubs on our farms that has the most pictures of up and coming and mature bucks, 1 other farm has a couple rubs and i just went on a speed scouting mission yesterday on a 750 acre public piece in my county and found more rubs than ive seen anywhere else. Got a picture of a super small fawn with a lot of spots on it still also. Seeing just as many scrapes as ever on our private pieces though. But i have to say ive noticed we dont have nearly the rubs we had back 20 years ago. I appreciate everything you guys do.
Completely agree. I've done it, did it this morning out of just being excited to get out there. Seen plenty of deer but buck just seem to disappear. I see them but not in the same places. Their food sources are shifting as well.
I just got a nice 10 point only hunting the pm... I've been patterning since August... My season started October 1st... My second day hunting, I was in the right place at the right time and the right wind... Early season success...
I’ve had the opposite experience this season, I’ve seen plenty of rubs but way less scrapes than I usually would. I’m not terribly far from where you are here in Missouri
Prayers for your friend young one. We've killed 4 mature bucks last 10 years in October but all evenings. Am is tough. Did miss a gross 250" non typical on an October morning hunt though. Hunted him for 3 seasons.
I’m in TN. I’ve seen more rubs than what I would call normal on two farms I hunt, with almost nothing on the home farm. The two farms have a few decent 3-4 year olds while the home farm occasionally sees a ghostly buck I know to be 5 as well as several around 2-3. I do not hunt mornings until the cold starts. Never killed anything decent untill the end of October in the mornings.
It’s been totally opposite here in southeast Iowa where I’m at I’ve a lot more rubs this year than last year
I wish you wouldn't edit out so much.thats what makes podcast great is the conversation being fluid not chopped up.
We actually don’t edit anything out. If you hear areas that are chopped it is one of two reasons 1.) don’s internet isn’t the best and it stalls or 2.) i run the video file and through a software that takes out the Umms and pauses that we have while recording. That process takes a 3 hour editing project into a 1 minute software function but it is a tad choppier. Everything we say stays in the recording though. Thanks for listening.
@chasing_giants_tv_terrypeer thanks for the explanation
Can you talk about more of aging deer in still terrible about aging I tried watching people on you tube about it but I trust your judgment call better lol thank you for all the info and the pod cast love listen to these !!
Here is a video on the topic - th-cam.com/video/zxq6bwqKAro/w-d-xo.html
@@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147 thank you sir !🙏
We are with Don lets see the proof on the walls with early Oct mornings!!??
In Wisconsin not any rubs but I do have scrapes
I was out yesterday the 5th changing camera batteries and found a few rubs. I am in Southwest Wisconsin.
Just started seeing rubs this week, haven’t found a single scrape yet. I still have plenty of bucks in the area based on cams.
Sitting in an oak tree right now. Foggier than a stained glass window. Birds just barely started making noises.
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Well. I smoked one of my old wide target bucks in the first 15 min of opening morning. I hunted the rain the whole rest of the week with a doe tag basically just to watch deer since I was on Hunting Vacation. Saw a bunch of nice 2 yr olds in the evenings. Never saw another older buck. Sooo that advice would have cost me dearly.
He’s talking bout Cody D’Acquisto hunting October mornings. I think his caveat was “if you know where they’re bedding”. So, maybe he’s only 50% wrong
I was not talking about anyone in particular regarding October mornings. I've heard several guys argue the point about not hunting October mornings.
I had a giant and several bucks chase a doe the same but this was in late September and actually had a trail cam pic of the 200 inch buck I shot was breeding that doe at night. I know cattle mess around all times of year but that buck tended that doe for a week. I always wondered if anyone else ever experienced that.
I barley listen to this guy but some how I’ve heard the story about following the buck track multiple times
I lost 16 ,30-50 foot white oaks and red oak trees in storm uprooting most of them , deer not showing up sent storm have 37 trees down in East Tennessee
Sorry to hear that. Count your blessings. I was in Vidalia GA this past week and the timber is devastated down there. Many folks still without water or power.
Well I think you need to be in the correct locations. The biggest one I have eyes on could have been shot second morning of season. Why would you not hunt the deer if he’s killable
I’ve not saw any rubs Also , I can’t find them and all bucks are hard horn
Problem for some like us in Maine archery season is basically October. Opening day was yesterday oct-5 and we can't hunt Sundays at all. Gun season starts November -2 but before that youth gun day is October 25&26 and it's great to give young kids a couple days alone but oct-5 to Oct-25 minus Sundays doesnt even give bow hunters a full three weeks before the orange army comes out. And the state changed it a few years back so crossbows are allowed in archery season now which is a whole nother issue. If your disabled I understand but if your a capable 20something or 30something year old no. Everytime I'm at Cabela's or other sporting stores I see 3-4 people walking out with crossbows , and I'm sure most never archery hunted before but now they use a crossbow it's an extra season for them. It has a scope and trigger shouldn't be in archery season. So add that all together and rule out mornings that really limiting the chance of getting a good buck with a bow. I wish Maine did somethings, a lot of things different but it's all about the money to them.
Ohio needs to look at Pennsylvania we are side by side and look how bad Pennsylvania is compared to Ohio
I hunt deep south in LA I don’t find this to be true at all down here
The Midwest is its own animal
Is this for all areas of the US
I'm seeing plenty of rubs and scrapes
maybe that doe identified as being in heat? Haha jk. I've seen studies where a doe comes into heat at the same time every year with 7 days one way or another. Makes sense to me cause I see fawns on my cameras born in May/June all the way to late August. Every year. On another note We have a fair amount of apple trees on our property, mature apple trees and most years I can fill a trash can every evening and dump it to my pigs but this year maybe 10 apples in each tree. I dunno if we had a late frost or I do know we had a very dry june & July , I got worried and against my judgement walked out into to the woods to check the oaks and make sure we had acorns . That about it for natural food on our property apples and acorns and had me worried. Any ideas ? Never seen it, every year these apple trees produce 1000s.
I don’t get why so many of these guys say don’t hunt the morning?? I could understand if you only hunted on a food source. Mornings you can use the thermos to your advantage. I’m not a professional hunter & I’ve killed 7 bucks all pope & young class deer ranging from 132 to 166 5/8 all with a bow all in the morning. Not everybody can sit around & take off time from work just to hunt evenings. I hunt the wind & when I can. Yes I have killed 13 big bucks in the evenings but I contribute that to the rut. I’ve killed several big bucks on mid day from all day sits. My point is, don’t let some professional hunter tell you how to hunt take bits and pieces from their advice. Always hunt the wind, pay attention to your entrance and departure that has a lot to do with it and different trains need to be hunted differently. sometimes you have to split the wind because a big buck is more comfortable, moving when the windows in his favor meaning if it’s in your favor, it’s not as likely to see him. my advice is to hunt smart & don’t take chances on pushing your target buck onto the neighbors property
Maybe deer hunters could send meat to NC to help out?
my buddy had 2 big bucks chasing a doe last week at the end of september,
He was pulling your leg
Yea right it's gonna be 80 today down to 41 tonight high of 60 for the next 3 days and down into the mid 30s so you think them deer ain't gonna be moving in the mornings 🤣🤣 yea I guess they'll say anything to get views
show me your October morning bucks. Back up your opinion with multiple dead mature bucks
Hunt october mornings but do not hunt your best stands until the last week of October. Pretty simple.
Sorry Don, I disagree. If a high pressure cold front comes through on a good moon phase I'd much rather be in a tree than being lazy and not going. I've seen the Druys, Winke, and Lakosky all hunt mornings and all have killed big bucks in the morning in early October. Maybe a little more good deer are killed in the evenings, but bet your hind end there a plenty of good deer put down in the morning. I'm not saying to go all the time either just the days the stars line up. Monday morning, when here in southern Indiana the temperature drop from Sunday evening is going to be a 35 degree drop. Add the fact it's a good moon phase. I'll be in a tree my first time this year. Oh and my success rate is about 50/50 evenings vs mornings. I think the way the property you hunt lays out has something to do with that rate. Maybe, you Don haven't had good morning luck while I know for a fact Mark Drury had killed probably more deer in the mornings than in the evenings. Ima nobody as you would put it but I'm being honest here I think telling people not to hunt mornings is wrong. Again, just for you and the way your property dictates hunts doesn't mean that's the same for everyone else.... I love learning things from you but I'm also the type to not sit back and not speak my mind. Now I'm on a mission to shoot one in the morning just to have your so called proof. I think that's a little hard headed. Also Mike Reed from Midwest whietail has also killed giants in the mornings. I only hunt cold fronts in October though so I am not one that hunts all October.
100%. Maybe the reason Don doesn't kill in the morning is because he's not in the tree. Same with the moon guys that only kill on a red moon because that's when they hunt. I'm not saying go hunt whenever but you can definitely kill October mornings if conditions are right, and weather is often beautiful to sit in a tree October mornings.
I actually stopped hunting mornings before I had my property. That was based on hunting permission properties and public lands way back in the day. Obviously, everyone is entitled to their opinion but without the proof on the wall .... How about seeing if you can get one of the hunters you named to go on the record saying that they have had more success on October morning hunts than October evenings??? Anyway, best of luck to you this season no matter when you choose to hunt.
@chrisking9424 facts like here in Indiana 37 degree temp change in 13 hours. On top of a red moon. Tomorrow is my opening morning first sit
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147 every property is different Dom. And I have heard Mark say this before. Not necessarily that early season mornings are better but that any morning on a cold front is good. I think it really depends on the way the property lays, the wind direction, and where they like to bed. In the right circumstances it could be a better morning property than evening property or vice versa. It really just depends because where I'm from the predominant wind is from the south west whereas Iowa for example is from the north west. KY more from the south it just depends. I'm also not saying that I go sit every morning I have yet to sit. I was waiting for the right moon phase and just so happens that a cold front happens on the second day of a red moon. I can access the bedding area without bumping them. And it's far enough away that I should catch daylight movement. We shall see. Thanks for responding Dom Goodluck to you I hope you kill the buck you named after the same person I was named!
I feel like I might have listened to a different podcast based on these comments. My take on Don’s advice was “rarely” are October mornings worth the risk of educating a target buck. His farm is less than 200 acres so he picks the best days to hunt. I’m certain he actually knows what he’s talking about.
I don’t understand how anyone can tell a person when they can hunt
He is just explaining his point of view, not telling you what to do, don't be sensitive
He's just giving you his opinion on the subject. If you enjoy to hunt, just to hunt, then go out in early October mornings. Just know that it almost always does more harm than good, if you are into killing mature bucks. I agree with him 100% on this subject. I wouldn't ever hunt an Oct morn until about the 25th, provided it's a cold snap. Anyhow, good luck to you sir!!
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Mature bucks move in the mornings especially when the day winds pick up and thermals change hunting mornings for mature bucks in early October underneath a destination feed tree is absolutely killer stop listening to everyone else OPINION. Woodsmanship trumps TH-cam advice tremendously
Post how many trophy bucks have you shot in October mornings
Tony is high quality individual. He knows deer .and how to hold them on property. Dan is one of those guys. There are a few. my thot is only pretenders have to bash others to try making them look good . They don't look good.
Dream Big brother 🙏