Cruiseman, I found that you CAN fish the pogo pin end UP to the handlebars, instead of trying to fish the 12V-5V step down block DOWN to the fusebox. That's how I mounted mine, and I didn't have to remove a single piece of body plastic.
Hey Cruiseman, nice informative video on a temporary run/fix for the Garmin XT GPS. Your suggestion allows the user to have quick usage of the unit until the removal of the “Tupperware” and a more permanent line placement. Well done!!
I ran the wires up from the battery to the bars. The "12 volt to 5 volt transformer" stayed near the gas tank, and I was able to fish the small connector up thru the left side pretty easily to the left side mount. Also, I used a philips screwdriver to loosen the plastic cover under the bars without having to lift the center console. With the cover loose, the small power wire laid along side the other bundles of wires. Saved a lot of time this way. PS: The Zumo XT has a very bright screen. Nice! But no provision for TPMS (if that is a consideration for your older bike).
How exactly did you get the connector up through the left side? I have not found an opening large enough to pull the connector through. Almost at a point of giving up now…
@@hansscholz5914 I started at the top left side using a 2 foot long heavy duty zip tie. I was able to gently work it along the left side of the frame under the plastic bodywork. It eventually came into view down near the left side of the gas tank. Then I securely taped my wires to the end of the zip tie, and then pull them both back up to the open area just left of the handlebar area. The long plastic zip tie works much better than a piece of copper wire or other hard object.
@@417ah7 Thanks for your quick reply. I tried it many, many times exactly the way you described it, but I was never able to get the pogo pin through the opening just below the handlebar area. I finally tried it on the right side, and there it worked! Luckily the wires are long enough, so getting from the fuse box to right side of the gas tank and then back to the left under the handlebar is not a problem at all, and the wire is completely out of sight.
Using the short cut for lifting the Left side of the shelter, I was able to finiggle that "transformer" box through the tight openings where Honda ran the main wiring harness, then drop down behind the frame to the Honda provided accssory box.
@@RH-qf6wv The first one I saw was by the owner of HeliBars. Then the Vimeo series by Fred Harmon has a detailed version. I hope it does not violate Cruiserman's rules to mention other sources.
Thanks Cruiseman. I'm ok with the Honda gps on my 2019 Goldwing. I hear what your saying regarding your opinion of the on board system. My complaint about the on board system is the small country back roads are not labeled ! That's where I do most of my riding. I like to take my way to the destination which is often a different way then the GPS wants to take me. Consequently I don"t use the guidance . I simply know the roads I'm supposed to take and use the GPS for location only. But if the roads aren't labeled I miss my turn. Is there an update I didn't get or is there a different scale to use to get the system to identify by name the smaller roads? Thanks always for the great videos. Dave.
Why do you prefer to install the Zumo XT on the left side with the RAM mount that needs to be purchased separately instead of using the supplied mounting kit to install it on the brake reservoir on the right side of a 2018 Goldwing?
installed wiring today was a very frustrating process spent many hours on youtube. At times I wished I still had my 2009 Gold wing. Honda really messed up with this model I would be willing to pay to have someone else to work on it but the dealer I purchased it from screwed up so many things when they worked on mine I don't want to take it back to them. I love the Bike but the seat is bad I had it rebuilt , haven't been able to ride since hope it was worth it.
Hi Cman...I'd appreciate your comment on my plan to connect a "cigarette lighter plug" or whatever you call those plugs to the plus and minus wires provided with the electric hookup so i could take it from one bike yo another using the female socket on each bike....do you see any problems with this...thanks for your reply.
@@cruisemansgarage How did you get the in line fuse block on the Zumo XT routed under the tank? In your video you added 36 inches of red and black power wire. I was wondering what the awg size of that was. I don't plan on dismantling my front end to thread the wires to the fuse box. Thanks.
I have an XT ordered. I would like to be able to sit in my easy chair with it and design trips on the trip planner. Is there any way to get 12 volt power to the unit when it’s not on the bike ? I wouldn’t mind using a small 12 volt battery kept in the house. But how would one keep the contacts touching when unit is not locked in the cradle ? Could one purchase an automotive cradle and power cord and rig up a connection that way ? I know that base camp exists, but have read many complaints about it. And I believe the XT has some stand alone internal battery capacity but I’d still prefer to power it while playing around with it. Thanks.
Yes, there is a USB cable provided that allows you to power the unit when not on the bike, plus, the battery will last for several hours when fully charged.
I may have missed something but why add a GPS to the motorcycle if it already has one? Maybe I need to research the GL1800 plus? I didn't know that there was a difference.
For 60% of owners, the Honda GPS will probably be fine. After all, many riders don't even use a GPS, and if they do, it is for finding the nearest gas station. But, for multi-day touring where you want to pre-plan detailed routes in advance, the Honda GPS falls apart. Garmin's GPS has a lot of programmable features.
Two questions - 1st. What is the unit’s internal memory capacity - previous models couldn’t even handle complete North American maps (I’m guessing there’s too many POI), to me that was a big issue if you were planning a cross country/north american trip. 2nd. How long can the unit last on the battery alone?
Cruiseman's Garage - thanks great stuff much better internal memory - can you still search POI along a set route - great feature to find Gas stations or Hotels while riding
When I connect my XT to my headset, it overrides the connection to the bike ('19 WIng)- I get the Garmin turn directions but no bike radio in the headset. Did you find a workaround?
Depends on your headset. Most higher end headsets (Sena 50S, Cardo PackTalk) will have two separate channels (A/B or 1 and 2). You should pair the Goldwing to your headset using Mobile Phone pairing (Channel 1 or Channel A). This will deliver the bike's audio through the headset. Then, pair your XT using GPS pairing on Channel B (or channel 2). When you do this, any navigation audio will mute the Channel A/ or Channel 1 audio temporarily, then return the control to Channel A/1 after the navigation instructions. DO NOT pair your phone to the headset. Instead, pair your phone to the Goldwing.
@@cruisemansgarage Thanks for the note. You would think the new Cardo Edge would be "high end" - but it doesn't work with 2 devices. Heads-up for others who are considering this unit. I'm going to buy a 50S.
There is only one reason why I would upgrade from my 595LM and that is if the screen can be seen in sunlight. Therefore my question is.......does the new XT have a TFT screen or just a glossy finish to the old LCD display?
Nice but those 4 bolts on the mount look ugly. I can see rust forming on them and the lock nut. Too bad there's no snap on/over rubber/plastic caps to cover them up.
Curious about the main benefit of running the Zumo over the Apple CarPlay. Besides the one huge factor of CarPlay being incredibly hit or miss to get going
@@cruisemansgarage Or any of the leading GPS companies. I like how BMW does it with a drop-in slot for a unit. That would have worked for Honda. It also lets customers upgrade more easily. We could have this discussion for a long time, but most companies want things to be proprietary so they have complete control, and lock out any changes to their systems by outsiders. CYA stuff.
Honda locks down the motorcycle and car gps systems while you are moving. You cannot search for a gas station until you stop by the side of the road. THIS is why we add a Garmin to our new Gold Wings. Honda locks us out while moving for legal liability reasons. My new Chevy truck does not.
Why ...?””???..?.?...???.??? You have apple CarPlay, surely even if you don’t have an apple everyday phone , you would buy a second hand one to run fantastic apps for navigation waze , google ect . They are also voice controlled seamlessly linked to your bike and doesn’t look like a dogs dinner . Sorry Cruzman you’re loosing me
I thought the same way about CarPlay until you really do a motorcycle trip and want to plan a route around the Blue Ridge Pkwy. No cell coverage and you are done. Also in the summer, it seems that my Iphone gets too hot in the glove box and starts acting up. I am now looking into the external GPS unfortunately.
Cruiseman, I found that you CAN fish the pogo pin end UP to the handlebars, instead of trying to fish the 12V-5V step down block DOWN to the fusebox. That's how I mounted mine, and I didn't have to remove a single piece of body plastic.
Explain pogo pin end please
The end that connects to the mount. Those spring loaded pins are called POGO pins.
@@MotoRideswJohn Did you have to splice in any additional length of wire as Cruiseman shows in the video?
Thank you very much for making this video. Garmin doesn’t help at all in knowing how the pieces go together and this was just perfect!
Hey Cruiseman, nice informative video on a temporary run/fix for the Garmin XT GPS. Your suggestion allows the user to have quick usage of the unit until the removal of the “Tupperware” and a more permanent line placement. Well done!!
Looking forward to seeing the differences to the preceding Garmins... great video Cruiseman!
I ran the wires up from the battery to the bars.
The "12 volt to 5 volt transformer" stayed near the gas tank, and I was able to fish the small connector up thru the left side pretty easily to the left side mount.
Also, I used a philips screwdriver to loosen the plastic cover under the bars without having to lift the center console. With the cover loose, the small power wire laid along side the other bundles of wires. Saved a lot of time this way.
PS: The Zumo XT has a very bright screen. Nice! But no provision for TPMS (if that is a consideration for your older bike).
How exactly did you get the connector up through the left side? I have not found an opening large enough to pull the connector through. Almost at a point of giving up now…
@@hansscholz5914 I started at the top left side using a 2 foot long heavy duty zip tie. I was able to gently work it along the left side of the frame under the plastic bodywork.
It eventually came into view down near the left side of the gas tank. Then I securely taped my wires to the end of the zip tie, and then pull them both back up to the open area just left of the handlebar area.
The long plastic zip tie works much better than a piece of copper wire or other hard object.
@@417ah7 Thanks for your quick reply. I tried it many, many times exactly the way you described it, but I was never able to get the pogo pin through the opening just below the handlebar area. I finally tried it on the right side, and there it worked! Luckily the wires are long enough, so getting from the fuse box to right side of the gas tank and then back to the left under the handlebar is not a problem at all, and the wire is completely out of sight.
Using the short cut for lifting the Left side of the shelter, I was able to finiggle that "transformer" box through the tight openings where Honda ran the main wiring harness, then drop down behind the frame to the Honda provided accssory box.
where is the shortcut video?
@@RH-qf6wv The first one I saw was by the owner of HeliBars. Then the Vimeo series by Fred Harmon has a detailed version. I hope it does not violate Cruiserman's rules to mention other sources.
Can you reference the ball to ball extension piece or does it com with the kit.
Thanks Cruiseman. I'm ok with the Honda gps on my 2019 Goldwing. I hear what your saying regarding your opinion of the on board system. My complaint about the on board system is the small country back roads are not labeled ! That's where I do most of my riding. I like to take my way to the destination which is often a different way then the GPS wants to take me. Consequently I don"t use the guidance . I simply know the roads I'm supposed to take and use the GPS for location only. But if the roads aren't labeled I miss my turn. Is there an update I didn't get or is there a different scale to use to get the system to identify by name the smaller roads? Thanks always for the great videos. Dave.
What timing. Just yesterday I was reading about the XT.
hello greatings from Norway, i have two question A: contect too audio in? B: VIRB remote controll is it present in XT? i have GW 2015
Waiting on your opinion on the XT compared to the 590.
. Me again...and also can the Zumo XT be also powered up by the mini usb port instead of the electric wires hookup?
Why do you prefer to install the Zumo XT on the left side with the RAM mount that needs to be purchased separately instead of using the supplied mounting kit to install it on the brake reservoir on the right side of a 2018 Goldwing?
What kind of extension wires do you use?
Will this technique work on my 2021 goldwing?
Ahoj,kúpil som si garmin zumo xt, vedel by si mi poradiť kde mám zapojiť káble? Ale len pod sedačku na Africa Twin 1100, ďakujem
installed wiring today was a very frustrating process spent many hours on youtube. At times I wished I still had my 2009 Gold wing. Honda really messed up with this model I would be willing to pay to have someone else to work on it but the dealer I purchased it from screwed up so many things when they worked on mine I don't want to take it back to them. I love the Bike but the seat is bad I had it rebuilt , haven't been able to ride since hope it was worth it.
One suggestion- Never mention using a Phillips screwdriver when working on a Goldwing. The correct tool is a JIS screwdriver. :)
Sounds like something petty but its true 👍
It looks like I know where my stimulus check will go ;-)
There's a link to where you can order on Amazon in the vid description
Hi Cman...I'd appreciate your comment on my plan to connect a "cigarette lighter plug" or whatever you call those plugs to the plus and minus wires provided with the electric hookup so i could take it from one bike yo another using the female socket on each bike....do you see any problems with this...thanks for your reply.
Should work, but when you plug into the USB port for charging, you lose the waterproof.
Will the handlebar mount fit in the same place or is it to wide? I normally use a double ball clutch mount on the left. TIA
Have not tried it, but it should
Is there ANYWAY to have the sound from the Zumo XT go through the Goldwing speakers on the motorcycle?
Not that I know of.
Cruiseman,
The ZUMO XT comes with 22 AWG wire. What was the AWG size of the red and black wire you used to connect to your isolator fuseblock? Thanks.
I ran the XT wire all the way to the fuse block
@@cruisemansgarage How did you get the in line fuse block on the Zumo XT routed under the tank? In your video you added 36 inches of red and black power wire. I was wondering what the awg size of that was. I don't plan on dismantling my front end to thread the wires to the fuse box. Thanks.
I have an XT ordered. I would like to be able to sit in my easy chair with it and design trips on the trip planner. Is there any way to get 12 volt power to the unit when it’s not on the bike ? I wouldn’t mind using a small 12 volt battery kept in the house. But how would one keep the contacts touching when unit is not locked in the cradle ? Could one purchase an automotive cradle and power cord and rig up a connection that way ? I know that base camp exists, but have read many complaints about it. And I believe the XT has some stand alone internal battery capacity but I’d still prefer to power it while playing around with it. Thanks.
Yes, there is a USB cable provided that allows you to power the unit when not on the bike, plus, the battery will last for several hours when fully charged.
@@cruisemansgarage Awesome. Thanks a lot !
I may have missed something but why add a GPS to the motorcycle if it already has one? Maybe I need to research the GL1800 plus? I didn't know that there was a difference.
Clifton Howard - Because the Honda GPS is quite bad.
For 60% of owners, the Honda GPS will probably be fine. After all, many riders don't even use a GPS, and if they do, it is for finding the nearest gas station. But, for multi-day touring where you want to pre-plan detailed routes in advance, the Honda GPS falls apart. Garmin's GPS has a lot of programmable features.
Cruiseman,
You said to hook the wires to a "switched circuit". Is the accessory terminal on the 2018 Goldwing Tour a "switched circuit"? Thanks.
That is, the accessory terminal on the Goldwing fuse box.
Yes it is!
@@cruisemansgarage Thanks!
+cruiseman'sgarage is the isolator fuse switch standard on the GW or is that an aftermarket part?
It is aftermarket: amzn.to/2VOig2r
@@cruisemansgarage thanks!!!
Is the ball on the mount a 17 mm or a 25 mm diameter?
It is a 1" RAM ball, if that is what you mean.
Two questions - 1st. What is the unit’s internal memory capacity - previous models couldn’t even handle complete North American maps (I’m guessing there’s too many POI), to me that was a big issue if you were planning a cross country/north american trip. 2nd. How long can the unit last on the battery alone?
1. 32gb internal memory. 2. Garmin claims up to 6 hours or 3.5 hours if 100% brightness.
Cruiseman's Garage - thanks great stuff much better internal memory - can you still search POI along a set route - great feature to find Gas stations or Hotels while riding
@@davidmorgan4750 Yes you can, and it is even more enhanced than that!
Cruiseman's Garage now hooking one up to the helmets? Or the bikes audio - ???
When I connect my XT to my headset, it overrides the connection to the bike ('19 WIng)- I get the Garmin turn directions but no bike radio in the headset. Did you find a workaround?
Depends on your headset. Most higher end headsets (Sena 50S, Cardo PackTalk) will have two separate channels (A/B or 1 and 2). You should pair the Goldwing to your headset using Mobile Phone pairing (Channel 1 or Channel A). This will deliver the bike's audio through the headset. Then, pair your XT using GPS pairing on Channel B (or channel 2). When you do this, any navigation audio will mute the Channel A/ or Channel 1 audio temporarily, then return the control to Channel A/1 after the navigation instructions. DO NOT pair your phone to the headset. Instead, pair your phone to the Goldwing.
@@cruisemansgarage Thanks for the note. You would think the new Cardo Edge would be "high end" - but it doesn't work with 2 devices. Heads-up for others who are considering this unit. I'm going to buy a 50S.
There is only one reason why I would upgrade from my 595LM and that is if the screen can be seen in sunlight. Therefore my question is.......does the new XT have a TFT screen or just a glossy finish to the old LCD display?
It is TFT and it is MUCH brighter than the 595.
Nice but those 4 bolts on the mount look ugly. I can see rust forming on them and the lock nut. Too bad there's no snap on/over rubber/plastic caps to cover them up.
Curious about the main benefit of running the Zumo over the Apple CarPlay. Besides the one huge factor of CarPlay being incredibly hit or miss to get going
The zūmo has more features to allow you to pre-plan detailed routes. You can also share routes. Watch for my upcoming review for more info.
Cruiseman's Garage sounds great! Thank you
Also many areas in USA that don’t have cell service like out west or on the east side like blue ridge parkway.
Does NOT work on a 2023 Goldwing Tour
Do you see the issue here, don't buy the NEW Honda Goldwinglette. Seriously, They have a high tech bike right???????????
Its a shame that you even have to do this. If Honda would take their GPS more seriously you would be showing us the built-in system instead.
Completely agree. They should have gone with Garmin.
@@cruisemansgarage Or any of the leading GPS companies. I like how BMW does it with a drop-in slot for a unit. That would have worked for Honda. It also lets customers upgrade more easily. We could have this discussion for a long time, but most companies want things to be proprietary so they have complete control, and lock out any changes to their systems by outsiders. CYA stuff.
Honda locks down the motorcycle and car gps systems while you are moving. You cannot search for a gas station until you stop by the side of the road. THIS is why we add a Garmin to our new Gold Wings.
Honda locks us out while moving for legal liability reasons. My new Chevy truck does not.
Why ...?””???..?.?...???.??? You have apple CarPlay, surely even if you don’t have an apple everyday phone , you would buy a second hand one to run fantastic apps for navigation waze , google ect . They are also voice controlled seamlessly linked to your bike and doesn’t look like a dogs dinner .
Sorry Cruzman you’re loosing me
So, spend $1,000 on an iPhone instead of $500 for a world class GPS?
No you can buy an iPhone 6-7-8 for under $100 ok each to there own 👍
Sorry, phone cell towers are NOT everywhere, especially out West. No tower, no Car Play.
I thought the same way about CarPlay until you really do a motorcycle trip and want to plan a route around the Blue Ridge Pkwy. No cell coverage and you are done. Also in the summer, it seems that my Iphone gets too hot in the glove box and starts acting up. I am now looking into the external GPS unfortunately.
Can you reference the ball to ball extension piece or does it com with the kit.
It does come in the kit