Reading between the lines of the OGL…WotC doesn’t need you.
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Yeah, I don’t need them either. I have shelves full of RPG books. I can tell stories for the rest of my life.
Agree. I sold hundreds of books a few years back due to life reasons. I still have about 170 books and have read so much over the last 30 years plus. I could make stories for way longer than I will live. Besides, 5e and the OGL have made the ttrpg scene so much about 'dungeons and dragons' that I'm quite frankly bored of it. I want to see much more variety in systems. While many new systems exist, they rarely get a look in while under the shadow of the mighty D&D juggernaut.
The clause about WOTC being able to take third party creative products, at will, was a poison pill. They clearly did not expect, or want, anyone to take them up on it. This is likely a big loser for WOTC. It’s coming after the wave of popularity has passed. They are betting on a demographic that is going to lose interest, and are alienating the dedicated base of gamers who are their reliable customers. When this crashes and burns, there are going to be a lot of Hasbro and WOTC executives scratching their heads a wondering what went wrong.
Yeah that made me feel sick. I'm not sure thats legal.
Agreed. The high end corporate folks think they can make bucks controlling everything. Rather than being happy edging up the large amount of money they are making off a game.
@@queerios9925 pretty sure they are allowed to put whatever clauses they want in their license, it's for their product. The legality of unauthorizing the original agreement is in question, but it's unlikely any of their competition has the funds for that legal battle.
That said anyone who signs this agreement would have to be crazy. Under these terms, if you come out with a popular new setting or supplement, they could just revoke your license and take direct control over it themselves. Nothing you create is really yours, they're just allowing you to make content for them at that rate.
@@queerios9925 In contract and licensing law it matters a lot less about what is legal rather than what you can get away with, and with Hasbro they are a billion dollar company with WOTC pulling over a billion dollars themselves in 2021 and about as much in 2022, if they want to they can just back up the dumptruck of lawyers and keep things dragged out in the courts until their challengers are bankrupt. Hasbro and WOTC have a long history of being incredibly litigious and too many current players seem to have forgotten that.
@@TheRedneckGamer1979 Wizards consistently costs Hasbro big bucks every quarter. Just in the Q3 2022 Wizards lost over $100 million and is nowhere near the billion dollars you claim. In Q3 Wizards was had a net profit of only $102 million. A far cry from your claim.
I am a cartography illustrator and a professional adventure writer and the recent leaks and discussion has made us decide to veer away from the current OGL. It has only revealed how beholden we are to corporate tantrums and changes of mind.
Yep OSR with no OGLs
@@sirellyn Sure thing. I'm going to probably create my own ruleset not tied to any outside license and just push my stuff on it.
First, in the US the in 2002 the US court system ruled you can not copywrite game mechanics. In fact, is was WotC that lost that case when they literally tried to copywrite gaming dice and the math as theirs (if my memory serves, I even remember the NPR reports about it).
Second, 80% of everything D&D is built on is public domain. AKA myth, legend, and fantasy from historical and cultural sources. Which can not be copywrited in the US. This is why GW ended their Old World Fantasy setting. Changing the names of the creatures/races, and moving them away from traditional fantasy into some post apocalyptical mishmashed thing. So they could control the copywrite in totality.
Third, the only thing WotC can copywrite is their logos, most of the aberrations (beholders, midflayers, etc.) and any unique/not historically sourced creatures as those were made up by TSR which WotC bought all the rights to. They can also copywrite any named characters, settings, and (maybe) any lore that deviates from original myth. Though most of that was all built on unicorns and dragons. Which in not copyrightable. So, Paizo and Pathfinder and other developers like them are safe. They may have to change a few names of creatures, but safe.
Finally, TTRPGs are not like video games. The fan base is not without alternatives or creativity. WotC/Hasbro seems to have never understood this fact. While I personally LOVE 5e, that doesn't mean I won't drop it like a hot turd for some other system, new or old. As will most other true TTRPG gamers if pressed by bad faith by corporations.
Also, WotC tried this exact OGL thing with 4e (not having an OGL and restricting 3rd party content). They also tried to make their own VTT/digital content back then to, and extreme rules rewrites saying it would be backward compatible with a previous edition! We know how all that turned out... 4e was considered the worst and shortest lived edition ever made. Its like they can't remember their past mistakes or their track record in court.
I believe this is a bullying/scare tactic to attempt to control or monopolize the market. Maybe (?) to drum up publicity (bad publicity is still publicity), or they are actually planning to try and sue people. Hoping they settle out in court, because their case will die a terrible death in the US court system. This is the exact same tactic GW often uses to try and run competitors out of the market. Every time they get to court, those cases are thrown out and GW looks the fool. The same will happen to Hasbro/WotC as well.
Minor correction: Logos and names are trademarked not copyrighted.
@@googleandyoutubeareevil You are correct.
They will dial back their insane changes to the OGL with terrible and unfair terms that may seem "better" in comparison, but will still be terrible.
It's unfortunate that bullying is effective (in a sense) against small and divided actors. Maybe not so much if content producers find some unity amongst each other.
It’s time to show wizards that we don’t need them and they need us
I don't believe this will work out the way that Hasbro thinks it will.
Why? I'm sure the people in charge made the decision to go forward with this based on some data/analyses that they have and they have a much better picture of the situation than we do.
@@Crackbone123 Because, they made this exact error before.
Check out the history of Pathfinder.
Keeping in mind they plan for 6e to require a monthly subscription, I don't think many will jump to 6e to be completely frank.
It seems clear to me that WOTC is basically abandoning TTRPG as the main pillar of income with D&D and trying to become more profitable with movies, videogames, tv, toys, etc. i think this will backfire BIG on them because they have 1 year of greatly diminished profits, and i think the success of the movie is what they are banking on. I don’t think D&D has enough widespread popularity in the general public to offset the loss of their most dedicated fans. I think the success or failure of the movie will determine how WOTC and Hasbro move.
That movie's success is dependent on good word of mouth and this idiocy is endangering that!
The sad thing is we already saw this play out once before, a few decades back, when TSR decided they were a publishing company, not a gaming company. They went all in on getting D&D-themed fantasy into book stores and promptly lost their shirts. Because the actual publishing business was larger and more cutthroat than they were ready to deal with.
I think it's important to note that not all companies enjoy putting shareholders and profits ahead of customers and communities or even want to (although I'm sure some do) but rather they are legally required to do so. My understanding is that any company with shareholders is legally required to put their interests first. Refuse and you can be replaced. Make decisions for the customers benefit instead and it's an actual crime. (and since it's a crime that involves rich peoples money, it's a crime you will actually be punished for.) It's not so much "WOtC are leaving you" and more "WOtC's evil, wealthy uncle has already arranged a marriage for them and is flying them away. "
That is 100% true but it doesn't mean that Hasbro and WOTC are your friends. It also does not excuse their actions. The consumer needs to respond to show that such actions are not profitable.
They can serve both shareholders and gamers by simply putting out better products. Making a profit does not inherently entail executing bad business practices the way WOTC is.
They can make better products, but from few year (or not even from a decade ago) they don't want to (all they books, stories, editions are subpar or very poor quality now), because they wish to steal other's products, works and they wish to kill competitors that they are jealous off (Paizo/Owlcat) in the name of law, its easier and cheaper, no?
That’s one of the reasons Steam has never gone public
Destroying your flagship produce by pissing off everyone in your customer base is not serving the shareholders interest. The shareholders trust company management not to kamikaze the entire product line which is what they are doing right now. What if Ford Motor Company came out and said, "Hey we won't sell your cars and trucks anymore. We'll let you lease them. For $200 a hour?" This might sound amazing to some of the shareholders, right up until the point Ford never makes another dollar again.
I have been running D&D games since 1981. 42 years and every addition from 1st edition to 5th. But currently I am looking at alternate systems. I currently have ...no intention... of buying a D&D product from them again. It's not like you have to look hard, I have run Pathfinder in the past. How about GURPS, Shadow Run, Savage World, etc? I'm currently leaning toward Index Card RPG. What if this ends up in a boycott of D&D? A boycott of MTG? A boycott of Hasbro? I agree a 100% loss of sales isn't likely, but how about 20%? Will that look good at the stockholders meeting next year? Can't wait to find out.
People were already upset over the "under monetized" comment, but the OGL changes were the atom bomb.
I agree management is expected to put shareholder interest first. Looks like a Fail to me.
this week we will see WotC in panic mode, enjoy 🍿🍿
I suppose they don't need our money either.
Of interest to this community, Basic Fantasy is extricating itself from the OGL and publishing under Creative Commons
This is the sort of corporate thinking that has lead to the death of Star Wars and is leading to the death of Marvel. Destroying your customer base and brand-supporting communities in favor of gaining new customers which may or may not materialize (or worse, materialize but never actually BUY anything) is a high-risk, low reward business move. And, in the end, it's going to come down to having a quality product, of which D&D has been very hit-or-miss on.
It’s a fatal flaw with all big companies. They never stop wanting to make more money. They can never be satisfied with steady yearly income with a little more or a little less every year. That’s no good to them. They always want more and more and more and more. It’s a recipe to eventually kill them company when everyone hates you for being greedy bastards, not to mention it’s literally impossible to maintain growth forever. Capitalism is a disease.
@@WASDLeftClick it's shallow group-think while failing to analyze the greater macroeconomic frame work. Also, Wizards is probably concerned that if they pull it off, someone like Mattel could make a d20 He-Man or something and they'd have serious competition. It is all about preventing another Paizo.
Right you are!
My "cash" has already moved on... I have no desire for an ampersand tee.
Cheers!
This is 1000%+1 accurate video.
How can I not agree with that?! Thanks for commenting.
They are driving a massive wedge between ALL of the dedicated DMs and players who have supported them, written their paychecks, and fed their children for the last 49 years. Everyone should be writing their own RPG game at this point. If not, now is the time to start writing!
Love your videos, thank you! Looks like a deep and dark winter is coming for D&D, so I find my gaze moving towards older editions and other game systems.
Old school’s where it’s at. But I’m leaning towards Call of Cthulhu and Traveller a lot lately. Thanks for commenting.
A fantastic "What is the root cause?" analysis. Being able to "look behind the curtain" and extrapolate is such a rare skill.
Thank you. That means a lot.
We need to stop giving gold to the evil dragon. Let it starve...
Besides D&D, I’m also into Magic: the Gathering.
In the past few years but particularly last year, 2022, WotC screwed us MtG players. Wanting to make more and more money, they pushed more and more products out the door to the point that players and LGS’s couldn’t keep up. This hurt the LGS the most since their capital was tied to stock they still had to sell. But most egregious was their so-called 30th MtG Anniversary product: 4 random boosters of proxies of the original sets for US$999. When told that most players couldn’t afford this- alongside that they were random cards not legal for tournament play- WotC doubled down and said:
*”This product is NOT for you.”*
(They also explained to our community that their vision was to increase WotC/Hasbro profits by 50% by 2025.)
At this point, it feels like WotC/Hasbro is telling their pre-OGL 1.1 D&D customers:
*”This product is NOT for you.”*
As I'm sure many others here have as well, my shelves are full of various WotC products. For over 20 years I've bought into this hobby. That stops now. WotC has lost any and all future purchases from me. Any new products that come out I'll just ignore or find alternative means of getting them.
Excellent words
I farted today, it was less stinky than the OGL 1.1.
I'm in total agreement with you.
When the original OGL was released it was in an attempt to prevent the death of DnD then as they saw how other systems collapsed, such as Exalted, TORG and Earthdawn . This policy kept the game alive and allowed it to evolve and grow. So much it seems that HASBRO believes that its time to reap in a field that they did not sow in.
They however forget one thing, they are the owners of the IP not the content creators, they don't know how to or are unwilling to create their own content and good luck finding writers who will work "For Hire"", they'd rather just use others Intellectual property, which is the reason for that offensive clause in this new version of the OGL and the short time frame they are giving publishers to make a choice.
Their actions have exposed a critical weakness in ttrpg as it exists today, there is only one system and it is owned by bad faith players, so what do you do in this situation . Create another SRD that doesn't use the exact mechanics and add the ""irrevocable"" clause that was missing in the original OGL to this version of the SRD,. This way smaller content creators can switch to the new system and continue business as normal. You have the ideas , you have the reach , you have the fanbase , not them , use it.
WotC: We're moving on. The fans: Bye, Felicia!
I stick to my old books. Love my Monster Manuel my mother bought me for a holiday gift 20+ years ago! -Brian
I'm a mid-fifties guy introducing my teen kids and their friends to BECMI. They love its feel and completeness. Some companies have lost their connection to their fan base, due to corporate greed. Too bad. We play ttrpg because it's a group interactive experience. Anything can and does happen, the minds of the players are the real board where the magic happens. Thank you for reminding me to break out my old rpg.
You’re welcome. 🙂
I would love a recommendations of DnD like books I can play that are not DnD.
This man speaks truth.
It's like when a sports team does well during a particular season. Everyone jumps on board and buys their merch. But those folks WON'T be there for subsequent losing seasons. If you go after the casual fan only, you're not building a dynasty for the future: people who play for decades and teach their kids to play.
I have many books from ADD days, so many great reference books, now we got 1 Sword Coast book and that's all she wrote. WOTC has given up actually writing stuff. And now they kicked the 3rd party makers, there will be no stuff.
BECMI Berserker gets it...
Well I haven't needed wotc for my D&D, so I guess we're all content. The D&D that got this all started has a TSR logo on it not hasbro. 1-36th + Immortality is the only way to go.
i have my books. they can't take them for me.
Necessity is the mother of invention, and WoTC choosing profit over soul is going to propel some seriously creative people to produce some seriously good material, completely independent of D&D.
I agree. Whatever happens, some special products are going to come out of this that will improve choice overall.
What should I do? I use D&D Beyond for my character sheets, that’s owned by WOTC. Are my characters going to be claimed?
Good point do they save any characters deleted?
Unsubscribed a while after my game ended as I wanted my players to retain some access to continue their games but eventually unsubscribed and shut down the campaigns.
Is it possible to delete my d&d beyond account?
By the way there's a fifth edition app I used previously thats quite handy it will probably also be effected by this!
D&D Beyond has their own license and according to that license, they already have.
@@GladeRiven So what can I do? Do I have to remove my character sheets from D&D beyond?
@@Darkwintre which app?
@@emerald_vixen I would take all precautions and make copies. I understand 4e players lost their stuff when the 4e system was taken offline.
So many better systems have come along, while D&D has gotten worse with every release. The OGL was the only thing keeping them afloat. Hop to god gamers come to their senses and realize there are better systems to play, and maybe even genres outside of fantasy.
Even if WoTC ends up backing away from this updated version, how can anyone ever trust them again... Yep "Transient customers" have no loyalty, and will eventually diminish over time. Screwing with 3rd party creators and the long term fans will ultimately hurt them.
I think they are trying to catch the wave of D&D after it's already passed. Stranger Things is on it's last season, The D&D movie will either turn small profits or lose money, it won't be a smash hit. Who knows if Critical Role will have another campaign after the current one? They may be ready to call it a day on the live show, especially if WOTC makes their business model untenable. Two or three years from now Dungeons and Dragons will not be all that profitable for investors. They will have driven away all of the people who were keeping interest in the game alive. At the end of the day, I think they are underestimating how much they need us. I'm not sure we need them though. The fun of D&D is spending time with your friends using your imaginations. We've all got the books, we've got the dice, we've got battle mats and dry erase markers. All they can do is keep new stuff from being created under the D&D brand. We'll make our own adventures. At the end of the day, Hasbro doesn't need dungeons and dragons, it's a small part of their portfolio, but they can't stop us from playing how we want to play.
This is why a parallel economy is important. I know the guy who runs the Geeks + Gamers Tabletop channel is creating his own TTRPG.
For those needing tips on good games i recommend DaveThaumavore and Questingbeast YT channels.
There are plenty of other better games out there! I'm just waiting for WotC to start selling packs with Races, Classes, spells, items and abilities in starters and booster packs for making your characters!
That's kind of my attitude. I'm long past ready for the 800 lb. gorilla to fall. It's just a shame that a bunch of small creators are going to get burned by this.
We are just a form of monetisation.... and with one OGL 1.5 in the darkness, bind them.
Why are everyone freaking out so much. It's pretty obvious that Hasbro doesn't have the legal ability to de-authorize OGL 1.0. That license was granted as a perpetual license. There are no terms in that license that allow it to be ended. In fact it looks like Hasbro is setting itself up for a massive class action lawsuit.
something being perpetual is different from something being revokable. Perpetual just means it doesn't expire after a set amount of time.
Who has the money to go head on in court with Hasbro?
Good luck to players moving to one DnD when there will be even less DMs
As a DM for years and player. I LEAVE DND, good luck to the new players seeking for a DM in one DND.
First they destroyed magic the gathering and now they are destroying DND
we don't need them either. we can make up stories and roll dice on our own
It is funny that WOTC does this just as the game is expected to die down after it's height. It's like they're trying to help kill it.
There is a few problems with this strategy, the first being there is no certainty they will win a lawsuit to revoke OGL 1.0. Second win or lose, they are going to create a generation of ragetubers who make money on raging at WOTC and their corporate abusive behavior. How well it that going to play with investors. They also cant shut down critique and commentary, Sony and Nintendo already tried this and lost.
#OpenDND #Dontsign
Thats funny .. we dont need them either :)
#OpenDnD
#BoycottDnD
ANYONE with an IQ > Turnip who has read the OGL 1.0a knows that WotC cannot retract that OGL
I think they would try to
Abuse the legal system
That is debatable (meaning it will need to go to court). To my understanding, when the OGL was written, irrevocability was implied in the term perpetual . That has since changed and the term perpetual actually implies revocability now, no irrevocability, in current US copyright law. I don’t think they have a strong case (WOTC), but that doesn’t matter because they have the money and tine to tie it up in the courts long enough to strangle most of small 3rd party people and kill most competitors just with the legal warfare, whatever the ruling is.
They can because the term irrevocable is not in the 1.0a text. Legally the term perpetual does not mean anything it had to be irrevocable in order for it to count.
No. It has to explicitly say that it is "irrevocable", but it does not say anywhere that it is irrevocable. Per US law, revocability is presumed. So, sadly, WotC can retract that OGL.
@@doug5538 If that's what the original writers of the OGL assumed, then they made a mistake which is what is giving WotC the opening here. Perpetual just means it doesn't expire with time, and is not the same as irrevocable.
Sadly, OGL2 represents classic myopic business thinking. Instead of seeing the DMs as partners WOTC sees them as competitors standing between WOTC and a herd of passive wallets/consumers.
This was pretty emo, 😂
Runequest. Just sayin'.
Call of Cthulhu if you get tired of dragons and orcs.
WotC has done very little to create anything "new". It has rebadged, rebranded, tweaked and recycled creative material written decades ago.
5E is... OK. It's not a great game, and here's the dirty little secret that no one says out loud... "D&D is. an "OK" game set.
It made it's name when it was the biggest fish in a small pool, and somehow managed, (Christ knows how) to remain the "Name" brand of the TTFRPG "Hobby".
Every aspect of D&D is "Vanilla" which is why none of the better games have ever overtaken it. The rules set is "Broadly acceptable" to pretty much everyone.
There are way better games out there depending on what you want from a game.
The area where D&D 5E excels is being an easy to survive system where starting characters are really powerful, and the rules for combat govern the vast majority of interaction, and it;s generally weighted in the super hero PC's favour.
If it weren't for a lot of things that were way outside WotC's control, by now serious D&D players would have been moving on to better games. But Stranger Things (whose lead characters were playing a version of the game most neophytes consider awful) Critical Role (who started out playing Pathfinder) and the bloody Pandemic, came together in this weird redefining of the zeitgeist, which allowed D&D's brand recognition to dominate the conversation.
The WotC content has gotten worse and worse over the past few years.
Spelljammer was another existing IP they dusted off and repackaged, and somehow managed to write a "Space Version" of D&D complete with Space ships, that completely lacked a system for adjudicating Space ship combat... (WTF???) BUt we all thought... "Dragonlance... they can't bugger THAT up... can they?" Oh... wow they did. What a lacklustre piece of trash it turned out to be.
The people playing D&D aren't playing it for its "Great game system" D&D has always been a relatively basic RPG, and t5hose of us who still play older variants do so because of its familiarity, and a LOT of the people who play 5E do so because they don;t know about other games, many if not most of which are actually BETTER. (I would LOVE to run more RuneQuest... which is a far better game system but my players ummm and ahh, and we end up playing AD&D...)
The strongest selling point 5E has in my opinion |IS the OGL. The best 5E content soming out IS from 3rd parties.
If WotC think shutting these guys down to cut outn the competition is a good idea, then those people making that decision are really misreading the room. If 3rd party content stops for D&D those creative people will make stuff for other games. And since WotC/Hasbro are more acutely directed at selling shit that is unrelated to the actual game rather the focusing on GOOD GAME content, players will want the good game content and look elsewhere. And it won't take long for the ONED&D Unreal Engine Micro Transaction mega store fever dream version of the game to become a very empty, lonely experience...
But if they can keep enough customers paying monthly subscriptions and buying loot-boxes, skins and character slots and load outs, while being DM'd by an AI through their Unreal Engine VTT fever dream... they won't give a toss.
Just remember that if you remain a D&D player through that transition you are no longer going to be a Table Top Role Play Gamer... you are buying into a new "App Based" RPG Experience!, (Or "Video Game" as we used to call them)
Its not the game that it undermonetized, its the brand. 1.1 is about protecting merchandising and franchising.
It's gonna be the new "game of thrones". It will be tv-shows, movies, toys, posters, shirts and sooo much more.
Book sales will be as relevant to D&D as it now is to Lord of the rings.
Books sold to ttrpg players is just a spit in the ocean compared to the money made by large franchises. This is where D&D i headed and 1.1 is required to protect these new sources of revenue.
RPGs is a minescule niche market compared to mainstream franchising and merchandising. The market has "outgrown" the product (the game). Disappointing a couple of hundred thousand gamers is nothing compared to what they have planed. They truly don't need us.
This is why 1.1 limits the use to static books and pdfs and why they mentioned NFTs.
Exactly. Thanks for commenting.
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But do I need them? Plenty of games out there that do not use a OGL owned by WOTC. So bye WOTC
Any creator accepting the OGL is bound by all it's conditions. WotC is banking on a lack of knowledge and an eagerness to be aligned with the D&D brand to sucker in free labor.
No one needs the OGL to make adventures, monsters, alternative classes, backgrounds or anything else so long as they don't advertise that it's made for D&D or uses the actual copyrighted and trademarked characters, items, monsters or settings.
So go make something awesome for fantasy role playing game systems. Or better still, write your own game. So many GW fans got tired of playing wacky, inconsistent rules that they've made their own games and GW hasn't even given them a CnD.
And people wonder why some people want to gate keep niche hobbies. They always end up steaming piles of crap when they become mainstream.
Thank Matt Fuckface Mercer!
No one should gate-keep hobbies.
This was their long con with 5e, make the game as braindead baby simple for fake roleplayers that just wanna roll shiny click clacks and pretend their 7th gay tiefling glamor bard is actually interesting, despite the fact that they took a cooperate approved character path
@Punished Whispers you sound like an old boomer. Please tell me what a "real" role player is?
@@queerios9925 I never mentioned 'real roleplayers'.
Heh.....I never needed them to begin with. I never spent a dime on their inferior garbage. D&D died in the late 90s with TSR. Retro-clones and the OSR keep the original spirit alive. The product WOTC calls D&D is entirely something else and vastly inferior. I've never had any use nor spent any money on any "What-see" product and I never will.
You have some very good points here. 1.1 throws creators under the bus. I have a friend who has made and sells custom designed 5E character sheets and resource guides on his etsy that are far superior to the vanilla system from 5E, as well as custom shirts and things, so I 100% agree with your on this.
Ths issue I have is with statements like "legacy fans" and "legacy community." These are part-and-parcel of the angry neckbeards at LHS who "proudly" fight against "Woke N D" and prevent members of the LGBTQIA community as well as anyone who just doesn't fit their picture of "true fans" from joining the table.
ANYTHING that brings in new fans to the hobby is a Plus. Sure, OneDND/6E will get them in, but that opens the door to so many. I'm personally running a Fate game set in Dresden Files universe at my LHS with people who were bullied by gatekeeping trolls at a store across town. Several people who I count among my close friends almost left the hobby entirely.
Mayhaps this was not your intention, but this is how the wording comes across.
Nah only normies, red card ******, and people too lazy to manage their own character sheet will use 6e
You're obviously right. You just forgot one minor thing: that every company that does this crashes and burns, because they're only looking at short term gain.
Jokes on them wotc can't do with 1.0 ogl. Wotc is gonna fall when the third-party makes a new system lol..5e is terrible, and dnd should have been kept away from mainstream lol
Hilarious opening! 😂 👍Gotta at least have a little fun with this train wreck!! 🚆 😒Bullying is exactly how this feels...good point. Movie-makers do the same and have been, for the past several years.