Anna Netrebko - Macbeth - Vieni, t'affretta...Or tutti, sorgete - May 2, 2013

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  • Opening performance of the new New Mariinsky Theatre in St. Petersburg. Conductor: Valery Gergiev

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  • @jjh2456
    @jjh2456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I for the life of me can’t understand why she thinks she is a dramatic coloratura soprano. She is a full lyric soprano, maybe a little bit of a sprinto now. She is not however a dramatic coloratura. This aria is not for her.

    • @nesaaliyah4821
      @nesaaliyah4821 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have never seen anyone shirk this much coloratura so blatantly as Anna. I mean she really said “Macbeth, but make it Puccini.”

  • @leandrozanetti5885
    @leandrozanetti5885 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Horrible. Awful. Poorest coloratura, no dramatic voice. Stop playing soprano assoluta, Netrebko. You are not one.

  • @operamusicfan
    @operamusicfan 11 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Ghena Dimitrova had three times the size of netrebko's voice and actually executed the coloraturas, not smearing the notes like here.

  • @leonidssorokins42
    @leonidssorokins42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    No one can compare with Shirley Verrett. She was amazing in this role: paragon of perfection.

    • @alexandersporykhine
      @alexandersporykhine ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a disaster. She does not reach the high notes, she is wrong in the low ones but she is very pretty

  • @MadonnaImperia
    @MadonnaImperia 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    As always, her coloratura is sloppy and imprecise. Apart from that, she is too taxed as this part is too heavy for a lyric soprano, and her interpretation is boring. To me, she represents all that is wrong with the opera world today: It's more important to be beautiful and thin, so you look good on stage and on dvd's, and to have a voice with little or no vibrato, so you record well, than to actually take the trouble to train your voice, work hard and sing the repertoire that is appropriate for your range and fach, which is what will do justice to the music and please the audience in the long run. This woman has had the operatic world before her feet for many years, so why does she keep on choosing the wrong parts - too light bel canto roles where the coloratura defeats her (her "Son vergin vezzosa" sung in half voice was atrocious) or too heavy roles like this one??

    • @dubbelhenke854
      @dubbelhenke854 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish I didn't agree - but I do to 100%....

  • @numetutelare
    @numetutelare 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    perfettamente d'accordo con un appunto... gli acuti sono come vengono e poco tenuti e le note basse si sfilacciano o ballano, questo é quello che nell'ambiente si chiama "invecchiamento" precoce della voce da interpretazioni fuori ruolo... ci passò anche la Ricciarelli, purtroppo per la Netrebko lei é tutto meno che un soprano assoluto

  • @sarahaprincesa
    @sarahaprincesa 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    non la canta come ha scritto Verdi :(

  • @lalagonegaga
    @lalagonegaga 11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder if she realises that she is neither a coloratura nor a dramatic soprano...

    • @esterbruno8604
      @esterbruno8604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And neither a Falcon soprano!!!

  • @Altonahh10
    @Altonahh10 10 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Gergiev falling asleep and Netrebko trying to find the key to Lady Macbeth´s soul. Unfortunately a terrible match without fire and the depth needed.

    • @Neldidellavittoria
      @Neldidellavittoria 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep.

    • @crazyorganist1609
      @crazyorganist1609 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nilsson's my favourite lady Macbeth

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@crazyorganist1609 Mine is Callas, but Nilsson is certainly up there, along with Verrett and Cossotto.

    • @crazyorganist1609
      @crazyorganist1609 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xxsaruman82xx87 I like callas but Nilsson brought the power Verdi wanted

  • @Poet4you1
    @Poet4you1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    La prossima volta cosa canterà? farà Cavaradossi o Fiesco?

  • @aiolosgr
    @aiolosgr 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Many sopranos try to become Primadonna assoluta by widening their repertoire, but it's impossible. To me she is not that aweful, she is just mediocre for the role, but acceptable. Most lyric sopranos look funny in this role. Of course the best are Callas and Dimitrova.

    • @theartfulme1898
      @theartfulme1898 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +aiolosgr I'd also add Verrett to that list; she was a fine lady Macbeth.

    • @tailor383
      @tailor383 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We were waiting for someone to bring up Callas . Between her steely voice and notes and along side the tension of waiting for her sour top notes, ( also her acting was like watching a silent movie) we will pass . Her PR has done an amazing job convincing people she was the GREATEST ! She was not !

    • @aiolosgr
      @aiolosgr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@tailor383 PR after 70 years? She is the best selling opera diva of all time. Despite any vocal problems, what makes her unrivalled is the expression of emotions. That is why she is so adored. Her acting is even studied by theatrologists and only that means something. Also, opera acting should be judged as viewed from a distance, not from close ups, but even close ups are thrilling.

  • @beatrizderkrikorian8099
    @beatrizderkrikorian8099 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful voice, we love you Anna !! Thanks for bringing us this gift.

  • @ossama1360
    @ossama1360 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is mediocre! The voice is not suited. She is a lyric soprano not a dramatic soprano. The diction is poor, though it is easy to get it right in Italian ( a language coach won't cost that much). Gets comical towards the end!

    • @anandy9292
      @anandy9292 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      she is actually fluent in italian, almost 20 years in the business, plus her diction is just fine, she was a lyric soprano before the baby, after that her voice got more heavier so she became a dramatic

    • @LaDivinaLover
      @LaDivinaLover 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      an andy fluency in a language does not mean you have proper diction whilst singing. Its quite evident here that she doesn’t, especially if you actually listened to the words. It’s passable but that’s all. She’s always had weird vowel sounds in anything other than russian.
      Secondly she IS a lyric soprano. She was a lighter lyric before her baby but now she is a proper full lyric soprano. She is by NO MEANS a dramatic soprano in any shape or form of the fach and certainly not a dramatico coloratura soprano which is what this role really requires. She has never been a coloratura which is why her past repertoire full of coloratura roles has been mediocre in quality. Decent enough but not excellent. That’s generally how I describe her: Decent not Excellent.
      Please see the actual definitions for each of those words if you disagree.

    • @flannerymonaghan-morris1317
      @flannerymonaghan-morris1317 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LaDivinaLover I think ambition is getting the better of her, and to be fair, most lyric roles aren’t exactly complex and/or as juicy as say lady Macbeth are (though Verdi himself specifically said that Lady Macbeth should have a weird/“ugly” voice)...most of em, even the most famous ones, tend to be ingenue types (who aren’t necessarily the most complex of characters in theatre). I think she doesn’t want to be seen as an ingenue or whatever....

    • @flannerymonaghan-morris1317
      @flannerymonaghan-morris1317 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean most complex of characters in opera.

    • @esterbruno8604
      @esterbruno8604 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flannerymonaghan-morris1317 Ambition is good only when it's moderate and possible for your abilities. Netrebko wants to become better than Callas... But that's hybris.
      The extreme ambition becomes arrogance

  • @giorgio1234ization
    @giorgio1234ization 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Marianna Barbieri Nini, soprano per cui fu scritta la parte della Lady in Macbeth, racconto' che solamente l'aria del sonnambulismo necessito' di TRE mesi di prove per raggiungere il livello che Verdi voleva. La sig.ra Netrebko dovrebbe solo imparare l'umilta' e capire cosa e quando puo' cantare.

  • @marr6920
    @marr6920 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love her, but this role is not hers... sorry... This is super Macbeth, dramatic early-Verdi. And she doesn't have that in her voice. Some lighter more comfortable ranged tessitura Verdi might be good for her like: Leonora - Trovatore, Traviata, Desdemona but not Macbeth.

    • @rothvinbosley1335
      @rothvinbosley1335 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, but she tries to sing everything and she is not Callas. She has strained her voice quite a bit over the last 10 years. She had a very beautiful lighter soprano voice. This aria she should never touch by her ever. There are several others on the internt that one can hear to find out what this aria requires. I understand it is a letter scene where she discovers incriminating information but Netrebko just more or less sashays on stage. She does not look comfortable either.

  • @operaclassicc
    @operaclassicc 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe I am fascinated by voices like Dimitrova. Callas. Verrett which incarnated differently from each other this character in a perfect way.

  • @judycadana
    @judycadana 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    wtf with that slow tempo? Stidno vam, Valery.

  • @altec5174
    @altec5174 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Disastro dal inizio alla fine! Peccato.Troppo urlata negli acuti e, nella tremenda cabaletta "Or tutti sorgete"piu volte sembra di avvertire delle difficoltà di respirazione, fiato ad ogni nota. Affaticata in maniera applausibile.Per non dimenticare le difficoltà della pronuncia.

    • @brunaazzurra
      @brunaazzurra 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Kostas Paraskevas
      aggiungo che questo soprano , che oggi impone al Pubblico solo ruoli drammatici ha avuto vistosissimi problemi di fiato anche quando cantava come soprano leggero .saluti

    • @12341234W1
      @12341234W1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The only one capable of singing the role like Verdi wanted is Callas.Every note is in place, not to mention the characterezation. Absolute genius. Even in 1962 in London she still sang an exciting La Luce Lanque.

    • @altec5174
      @altec5174 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christian Wijnoogst I completely agree with you.

    • @romearomeo
      @romearomeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruna Marini 👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @romearomeo
      @romearomeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Konstantinos Schmidveiller Eva's 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @inguaribileromantico4456
    @inguaribileromantico4456 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the reason is obvious" she's a lirico-leggero trying to biggen her voice, so she forces her tone to be bigger and darker as it naturally isn't...watch her "Caro Nome" performance in 1999, that''s when she sang with her real voice ;)

  • @infrantasi
    @infrantasi 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is subtitled "Manon Goes to Hell!"

  • @peteradaniel
    @peteradaniel 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You think her intonation is bad now? Wait until next season's over when she's done doing Lady Macbeth and Leonora in one season. She won't be able sustain anything at pitch. I think it's the natural way she's been going since em"bark"ing on a career in the first place. She pushed Suzanna, Lucia, Elvira, Manon. She'll now push Leonora, Lady M, Tosca and probably Norma. Idiots will love her, as they did Guleghina, and she'll make lots of money. It'll be fun at least to watch it happen.

  • @sopranosd
    @sopranosd 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I sadly have to agree. This is SO not her rep. and yet Netrebko insists on trying to sing it. It is painful. And of course real dramatic sopranos are abandoned.

  • @plehotka
    @plehotka 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Non sarà la Callas. Non sarà una voce drammatica. Mi scrivete la lista di nomi di soprani drammatici ATTUALI, giovani, che sono adatti per questo ruolo, per favore? Non una, una lista perché non c'è un solo Teatro al mondo, vero?

    • @romearomeo
      @romearomeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Attila Cs. Bankuti la lista purtroppo rimane vuota.....

  • @romearomeo
    @romearomeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quando capirà la Netrebko che è un soprano lirico? Ormai la sua voce purtroppo ora è già affaticata....

  • @vitvv9657
    @vitvv9657 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Эта ария предназначена для очень крепкого драматического сопрано, для Анны с ее лирическим сопрано никак не подходит. Нужно петь свой репертуар,объективно оценивая свои возможности.

  • @swearty203
    @swearty203 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please! What is this? Leave Macbeth to the legends like Gencer, Callas, Galvany and Verrett. Stick to lighter roles girl.. And a big LOL at the audience for clapping this mess. Reminder: You need to listen with your ears not eyes..

  • @12341234W1
    @12341234W1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh dear, what is she doing? And why?

    • @dubbelhenke854
      @dubbelhenke854 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She is trying something that she has neither the voice (it's Beautiful yes, but thats not enough) nor the musical intelligence nor the temperament for.

    • @MadonnaImperia
      @MadonnaImperia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nor the technique!

  • @jeannepongo6691
    @jeannepongo6691 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    immagino che se non l'assoluta ignoranza è l' incontrollabile presunzione che impedisce alle persone riconoscere i propri limiti diventando ridicoli. Ascoltarla vederla mi rattrista.

  • @elisabetta611
    @elisabetta611 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Even if we didn't have Callas, Rysanek, Verrett and other greats singing this amazingly well (Callas owning it IMHO), she doesn't have the BITE or the TECHNIQUE for this role. What a disaster.

    • @commiraid8545
      @commiraid8545 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      дура ты, девочка , *б твою мать !

  • @JK-xz6mj
    @JK-xz6mj 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think it's a voice well adapted to Verdi... it is a shame she does not have the technique to support it.

    • @theartfulme1898
      @theartfulme1898 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Der Fremde The sumptuous color, the range, the spinto power combined with lyric ability... Everything theoretically sums up to a great Leonora, an immortal Aida, a convincing Gilda, but her technique is so underwhelming... I sigh before the possibilities of what she could've become with adequate training....

    • @MadonnaImperia
      @MadonnaImperia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She isn't a spinto, she's a lyric. A full lyric but still a lyric. If she was a spinto, she wouldn't sound so taxed in this repertoire.

    • @marr6920
      @marr6920 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually think she has spinto qualities. But her Macbeth is still not good nonetheless

  • @LoreOpera
    @LoreOpera 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Molto inespressiva! E poi questo non è il suo repertorio.

  • @Samuel6969ify
    @Samuel6969ify 11 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Inascoltabile! Come può pensare di interpretare la Lady con una vocetta come la sua dopo le injsuperabili Callas e Verret?

    • @ROAR169
      @ROAR169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Samuel6969ify ma veramente, ben detto...non so come possa avere estimatori tra i musicisti

    • @micheladessanti4278
      @micheladessanti4278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Non è "una vocetta"....è che non è un soprano drammatico....la sua pecca è essere fuori ruolo e in generale fuori repertorio. Altrimenti il timbro è bello, dolce e omogeneo da soprano lirico. Trovo poco da "musicisti" vedere solo gli errori e non saper riconoscere le doti....certo quando canta quello che deve cantare. Poi i gusti esulano da tutto questo, ma non sono d'accordo nello stroncare crudelmente un'artista

  • @mayeramda
    @mayeramda 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Off pitch - not for her. And what a thick Russian accent when she recites the letter. One would think that an international career of so many years would yield pronunciation that would rid her of most of the Russian accent.

    • @laurademilio4475
      @laurademilio4475 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Her Russian accent is beautiful. She will never let that go. 👑👑👑👑

  • @numetutelare
    @numetutelare 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Strilla qua e là, é ingolata e spesso ha suoni aperti e respira fuori tempo ... é fortunata che oggi non ci siano grandi interpreti del passato, l'avrebbero polverizzata senza riserve.

    • @ROAR169
      @ROAR169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      GB concordo su tutta l’analisi: aggiungo però che ora c’è Saioa Hernandez (il “talento di questo secolo “, come la definì la Caballé)

  • @Josquinquin
    @Josquinquin 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is definitely NOT for her!! It stretches her to the max, and the tempi are all off. Her upper register is flapping and pushed. She also is breathing in weird places. Almost embarassing.

  • @SsteinwayS
    @SsteinwayS 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I have never understood is why someone with such a dark and heavy voice has such a weak low register? I hope she keeps this to concert repertoire only since this does not seem good for her voice...

  • @NiemandNY
    @NiemandNY 9 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Whatever there once was to Netrebko (and I never thought there was much), it's gone. This is neither musical nor true to the score.

  • @barriopianista
    @barriopianista 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe now that she's looking more and more like a potato we'll be less and less subjected to her voice. What a shame that such a lousy singer had so many roles. A soprano for auto-tune generation. Yes, she sold tickets, but selling tickets to lousy singing helps no one except administrators. I much prefer a small house, smaller production, lower budget, cheaper tix, and real singers.

  • @charlesdavis168
    @charlesdavis168 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In my humble opinion, Anna Netrebko is the top opera singer today for the following 5 reasons: She can sing. She can act. She is very pretty - actually drop-dead gorgeous comes to mind. She has an incredible sense of timing in both comic and serious roles and finally and most important she sings with a primal energy that is unrivaled by any other singer. Again, this is my opinion, but what do I know? Just a hick from Minnesota.

    • @esterbruno8604
      @esterbruno8604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Top opera singer?... Nah.

    • @mugrad25
      @mugrad25 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually saw her live in macbeth two weeks ago. She was something else

  • @BEVER29
    @BEVER29 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Déclamation embourbée, accent manquant de tranchant, de mordant. La lourdeur de la vocalisation et les problèmes d'intonation (2'40!!!) sont rédhibitoires hélas. Lyudmila Monastyrska avec un timbre assez proche est d'une toute autre rigueur et par suite autorité.

  • @doGreatartistsgrowontrees
    @doGreatartistsgrowontrees 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rysanek, Marton, and Guleghina-style intonation and wobble creeping in. Without the sonic and dramatic impact (or assault), of course. Let alone the genial creation of Maria Callas. Let's see how long AN lasts. To her credit, she may be giving up for good the Moscow streetwalker act (e.g., "Meine Lippen") in favor of a less frivolous persona. Time will tell; again, if she lasts. Although she relapsed during her performance here, wholly out of character with what was to come or what went on before. Old habits die hard, it is said.

  • @angelwhmobile9824
    @angelwhmobile9824 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THIS WAS WRITTEN BY VERDI FOR A MEZZO, ( A DIABOLIC DARK VOICE, IN VERDI'S OWN WORDS ).
    So it is wrong for the beginning, despite She mades a nice redemption & Gergiev mades Marinsky orquestra to sound like Angels...
    So Wrong, Wrong, Wrong

  • @federicovazzola_
    @federicovazzola_ 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    capisce cosa dice?

  • @andreavaltriani1484
    @andreavaltriani1484 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    non ci siamo. Questo ruolo non è per lei. E già il "retrocede" per inciso difficilissimo la fa sbandare. meglio stare sui ruoli da soprano lirico ma ormai la svolta l'ha già fatta sarà difficile tornare indietro.

  • @operaclassicc
    @operaclassicc 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to say that as a general summary it looks OK,but it's obvious that she is having some troubles with her low register. She is "closing" her voice to make it more heavy, but by doing this she is loosing her diction, which in this aria is very important...

  • @bridrice
    @bridrice 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    She's no Rysanek, that's for sure!

  • @operaclassicc
    @operaclassicc 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok for me this was the great surprise of the day! I have always thought how about Netrebko singing dramatic roles, but I never dared to imagine her singing Lady Macbeth... !

  • @PapagenoHannover
    @PapagenoHannover 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Not her role! Please change

  • @operabilia
    @operabilia 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Non c'è NULLA della Callas nella N. E nella Lady, la N. (che canta tutto con lo stesso stile) manca appunto del pathos, del color cupo e delle smumature necessarie al ruolo. Manca totalmente di maestra nel recitare e come quasi sempre è totalmente incapace di variare la linea. Crea un colore artificiale che non convince. Ed il recitativo/l'aria non risumano il ruolo completo. La voce della N. è troppo bella per il ruolo. E manca l'intelligenza. E come nel repertorio francese, la N. è volgare.

  • @plainvanilla12
    @plainvanilla12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Although I love her timbro, I don't think she is a good match for dramatic Verdi roles, unfortunately.. And her inaccurate pitch really bothers me. Bought tickets to see her in Macbeth at ROH and am getting slightly worried. Hopefully she has gotten better than this!

  • @jamesnickoloff6692
    @jamesnickoloff6692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personality obviously is not enough. Voice and technique are necessary. Netrebko falls far, far short of great performances of this area--for example, Verrett, Souliotis, Elizabeth Connell, and above all, Callas (especially in the two 1952 performances of this aria).

  • @TheLegenda1966
    @TheLegenda1966 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ich finde es sehr schade, dass Anna ihrer klaren Klang, lyrische Sopran verloren hatte. Am Anfang ihrer Karriere, sie hatte Engelstimme welcher für Bellini, Donizetti Rollen geeignete, nun singt sie eher dramatische Rollen, welche überhaupt nicht für ihre Stimme passen. Lady Macbeth ist nicht ihre Partie...nicht für ihre klare Stimme.
    Anna singt das sehr schwer und zu tief, seit ein paar Jahren, versucht sie sich als dramatische Sopran und deswegen ihre unikale und einzigartige Stimme verloren hat.
    Es wäre viel viel besser, wenn Anna mit ihrer kristallklaren Stimme weiterhin gesungen hätte und nicht gleich, als viele anderen Kolleginnen-Sopran

    • @AustrianAdrian
      @AustrianAdrian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wann war sie jemals für Bellini und Donizetti geeignet? Amina, Elvira, Lucia ... alles schlechtes Mittelmaß

    • @romearomeo
      @romearomeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Die Netrebko war auch nicht für das Belcanto répertoire geeignet (Donizetti, Bellini etc) hören sie sich mal z. B. die Joan Sutherland in diesen Rollen an, das sind Welten....für eine Lucia di Lamnermoor oder eine La Sonnambula braucht es eine unglaubliche Virtuosität die ein lyrischen Sopran meistens in diesem Sinne nicht hat, dafür für andere Rollen wieder super geeignet.
      Die Netrebko singt als lyrischer Sopran schon die ganze zeit das falschen Fach, sie ist halt ein Produkt des heutigen Musikbusiness...das sich nur auf dem grossen Star konzentriert und eigentlich nicht auf die Musik 🎶dadurch ist ihre schöne Stimme leider schon ermüdet....

  • @Homoclassicus
    @Homoclassicus 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually, a I thought a lot of his conducting in the gala was slower than it should be, so perhaps it was only his fault. I was told Netrebko had asked for a faster tempo in the rehearsals. I don't see how a much slower tempo like this would help her. This scene already poses a lot of breath challenges to any soprano, let alone a lyric singing this for the 1st time. I bet she'll be much better when she sings the whole opera with more time to rehearse.

  • @nigelo6258
    @nigelo6258 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This role, in my personal opinion, belongs to Shirley Verrett. She sang it like no other has. Ms. Netrebko has done a good job at it, but it is difficult to say more, when Shirley Verrett did an excellent job with this role. The standing ovations for her at La Scala when she sang it are legendary, need I say more.

    • @alexthomas1750
      @alexthomas1750 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but you can hear her career cutting in half as she sings it. Her voice was destroyed after those performances because she constantly opened her upper register to get her top notes to sound like a soprano. Listen to her Amelia and subsequent Carmen at La Scala afterwards. The voice is shredded to pieces. She has gaps in the middle range the size of a tectonic rift. Callas owned this role. Now Netrebko may be able to sing this aria so so, but the entire opera? NAHHHH! Just wait until she has to get through those killer concertantos at the ends of acts one and two. She can barely sing the coloratura here never mind the leaps and bounds during the party scene at the end of act 2.

    • @Altonahh10
      @Altonahh10 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does it matter, all that comparison? Have you heard everybody singing that role to really know who has been or is the best? It´s all a matter of selection and opinion.

    • @alexthomas1750
      @alexthomas1750 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Altonahh10 I completely agree it's all a matter of opinion, and everybody has the right to one. But without comparison, how does anyone know what's the right or wrong way to do anything. This is an art form which has been passed down from generations over hundreds of years. If we just ignore what's been, then it just turns into senseless notes on a page. Dismissing historical performance traditions breaks the thread that goes back to the composer himself, and his original intentions for his work.

    • @andity1
      @andity1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would say that Ghena Dimitrova's version is a way better than Verrett's :)

    • @Neldidellavittoria
      @Neldidellavittoria 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alex Thomas I agree with Alex: it's all a matter of opinion, and my opinion is that Callas owned this role.

  • @RainerLeiss
    @RainerLeiss 9 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Her singing and her voice lacks almost everything a great Verdi singer needs!

    • @theartfulme1898
      @theartfulme1898 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Rainer Leiss The problem is that she's singing the wrong parts: the assoluta roles (Lady Macbeth being one of them) pose a challenge far too great for her. But I suppose her gifts would be better used if she were to sing late Verdi (La Forza, Othello, Faustaff) or Puccini.

    • @MadonnaImperia
      @MadonnaImperia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Forza is too heavy. She's a full lyric soprano. Her rudimentary technique leaves her best suited for roles like Carmen and Giuditta where the acting sometimes takes first place to the singing anyway.

    • @fideliofidelio1222
      @fideliofidelio1222 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Her very beautiful voice is perfectly suited for this aria . The problem may be the technique as you said .The full support complies generally with less movements , especially for this kind of aria where you need to be well rooted to control the sound's projection...It doesn't mean there is less acting though...

    • @pt3085
      @pt3085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MadonnaImperia Carmen??? What??? She's a soprano, not a mezzo! Your comment shows that you understand nothing in opera

    • @pt3085
      @pt3085 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Artful Me soprano assoluta means a soprano that can perform any soprano repertoire. Lady Macbeth is a dramatic soprano role. Sometimes there's lack of drama in her voice because it's too sweet. It's just not perfect, but not bad.

  • @gobtho20
    @gobtho20 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    completamente fuori repertorio e i soliti fiati corti!

    • @ROAR169
      @ROAR169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thomas Gobbetti vero!

    • @esterbruno8604
      @esterbruno8604 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Esatto!

  • @toscadonna
    @toscadonna 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think she has a lovely voice and is obviously physically beautiful, but please don't sing this role, Anna. The voice is too lyric, and getting older or gaining weight isn't going to change you from a lyric soprano into a dramatic soprano. Go back and watch yourself in "Meine Lippen Sie Kussen So Heiss" and work with that. If you have that kind of beauty, movement, and such a wonderful sound, why would you ever do anything else?

    • @MadonnaImperia
      @MadonnaImperia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My personal guess would be that she probably isn't very intelligent. I mean - she started out with absolutely EXTRAORDINARY vocal material, but she didn't have the sense to train it properly. And in spite of having been at the absolute top of the operatic world for more than ten years, meaning that she can pick and choose her repertoire etc., she repeatedly chooses the wrong roles, both too light and too heavy. It all points in the direction that she isn't very bright. Sorry.

    • @flannerymonaghan-morris1317
      @flannerymonaghan-morris1317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She’s too ambitious for her own good. Even though she’s a lyric (whose looks make her perfect for the more mature/elegant lyric parts), most lyric parts...are kinda flat characters admittedly. She wants the more juicy roles, and she has admitted she could care less for the fach system (she prefers to be called just a soprano than a lyric soprano). Compare her to Renee Fleming, who has for the most part stuck to roles in her fach range.

  • @alvaroblanco3564
    @alvaroblanco3564 ปีที่แล้ว

    La más grande. Muchas gracias

  • @thomasgrass6357
    @thomasgrass6357 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Die Stimme kling dick und schwerfällig. Wenn man da eine Verrett hört, wie sie mit ungeheurer Kraft und Leichtigkeit durch das Stück fegt, dann erkennt man das Unvermögen einer Netrebko.

  • @xxsaruman82xx87
    @xxsaruman82xx87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll keep Verrett, Callas and Cossotto, thanks very much.

  • @edwardjames4111
    @edwardjames4111 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anna Netrebko is not a Verdian. Just listen to her sing, her voice just refuse to project outwards. You can hardly hear what she is singing. She sounds like she is swallowing her libretto. Her tone and diction all wrong.

  • @romearomeo
    @romearomeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Qui ci vuole una Callas o una Dimitrova....

  • @actinglcsw1
    @actinglcsw1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aside from the ill-fitting gow, the slow tempo, the hackneyed movement, the vocalism doesn't rise to the level of even second-tier interpreters of the role such as Arroyo and Voigt who were vastly underated Lady's in various productions. IMHO, of course.

  • @puckfarfadette2877
    @puckfarfadette2877 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    cose come queste dovrebbero essere vietate XD

  • @tillfechner
    @tillfechner 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Una cantante verista dovrebbe lasciare questo repertorio. Non ha la voce ben educata per questi ruoli.

  • @egraf6054
    @egraf6054 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    warum wird immer wieder das video abgebrochen?

  • @arturo8402
    @arturo8402 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Isn't she a full lyric? I mean when does the butchering stop. There are other roles she could sing soooo much better. But I guess when you're a superstar you can do what you want lol. No doubt she'll act the hell out of this role though.

    • @joseabraham8038
      @joseabraham8038 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      she's a full lyric the same way Renata Tebaldi was a lyric soprano, meaning they had these humongously huge dramatic sounds and for some reason insist on calling themselves lyric, I mean, did you not hear this?

    • @acacia-bloom
      @acacia-bloom 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      She WAS a full lyric - people, voices change. You dont need to die as a full lyric just because you were born one. Either she nails it, or she doesnt - THAT is the criteria

    • @MadonnaImperia
      @MadonnaImperia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Acacia Bloom - voices DON'T change, just because some singers are unwise enough to change their repertoire. Nebtrebko is a full lyric, no matter how much she tries to scream her way through spinto repertoire.

  • @MrTrackman100
    @MrTrackman100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just can't understand why so many love her singing. True experts know better. (Listen to Shirley Verrett and compare.)

    • @Feisenbach
      @Feisenbach 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You of course being one of the "true experts". Good for you that you have the comment section on TH-cam. At least that gives you one place in life where you can feel smarter than others.

  • @helenaiv7830
    @helenaiv7830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Воздух свистит между связками. Не смыкание полнейшее. Спасибо!

  • @bernhardmeier6896
    @bernhardmeier6896 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    NO CHANCE, ANNA! NO CHANCE!!! When there is such a singer as Lyudmila Monastyrska, who is born to sing Macbeth!!! Please better sing Meine Lippen, sie küssen so heiss...

  • @inguaribileromantico4456
    @inguaribileromantico4456 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    effortlessly as you will hear in any great soprano from Callas to Dimiitrova singing this role...I saw a clip of her in '99 singing Caro Nome, it was great, she was using her natural voice with a healthy, high placement, now I think marketing and fame have pushed her to biggen her voice and doing more exciting repertoire, but her natural instrument screams lirico-leggero and this is for a drammatico so...intonation and vocal placement are undeniable FACTS, nothing to do with jealousy trust me ;)

  • @Pankrasov30
    @Pankrasov30 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :))))

  • @KassandraMezzo
    @KassandraMezzo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Misfortune for us that she sometimes choses her repertory wrong. She will cry, of course, all the way to the bank. :)

  • @acacia-bloom
    @acacia-bloom 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For someone who has sung quite q large number of coloratura roles, her coloratura is almost non existent. Other than that she manages better than I expected but resorts to over darkening her middle register. She can continue singing like this but I don't think for long.....

  • @flicfan416
    @flicfan416 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw Monastyrska's Met debut in-house. She was electrifying

  • @kristinahabus8145
    @kristinahabus8145 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BRAAAVAAA!!

  • @Shahrdad
    @Shahrdad 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She really has no business singing this. You need a real dramatic soprano to sing this role, and although her voice has matured, she's at most a juicy lyric or maybe a spinto. She might be able to pull off Trovatore (her D'amor sul ali was lovely), but this is way beyond her voice and technique. The cabaletta was a mess, especially at the end. Just listen to Callas's 1952 Scala live recording to see what's it's supposed to sound like.

  • @LoreOpera
    @LoreOpera 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ci vuole un soprano drammatico!!!

    • @esterbruno8604
      @esterbruno8604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Altroché! Un soprano Falcon ci vuole!

  • @clefnoteproductions6695
    @clefnoteproductions6695 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my opinion, she's not singing in the natural way that sang in such roles as Adina and Norina. This manufactured, much darker than when she Norina and Adina. If you listen to her debut album, her Desdemona was wonderful and natural. I don't know why she changed her technique

  • @xTwistedFleshX
    @xTwistedFleshX 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Go watch Shirley Verrett sing this aria. You'll see how it should be sung and acted. This is so musically sloppy and the 'acting' is lol. At 4:31 saying che tardi does she forget her character? Why is she dancing? No envy here trust me. Musical mistakes such as the ones she's making are inexcusable for a professional at her level. The tempo is also terrible. Gerghiev is a joke.

  • @billsava7150
    @billsava7150 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bill Sava;Dear Ana;this is not for you.Check Shirley Verrett how is the right way to do.

  • @lilliwitt4941
    @lilliwitt4941 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wonderful ANNA !!!!!!!

    • @herminejuritsch1622
      @herminejuritsch1622 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very beautiful

    • @sergol2876
      @sergol2876 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tana Dimitrova
      Leontyne Price "biggest Lady Macbeth"? She never sang this role hehe

  • @spqrmor
    @spqrmor 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder, who are those real singers at a small houses,not looring like potatos? Tell us pls, just curious....

  • @jewelmarkess
    @jewelmarkess 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think she is planning to sing this in opera any time soon, she just tried an aria in concert, but she isn't planning to take on dramatic soprano roles any time soon as she clearly said in an interview.

  • @rafalejandro7
    @rafalejandro7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Un horror!

  • @sarahaprincesa
    @sarahaprincesa 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    orrendo

  • @sharky-os2lm
    @sharky-os2lm 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Much better than I was expecting. Not perfect, ... the over generalized acting is a bit much: turning, posing, shaking her money maker, arm thrusts, the "tight rope walk," shoulder shakes,the "cat backing up," etc. all get a bit silly and distract (which is, perhaps, their point).as the coloratura becomes ever more smeared and occluded. The tone is a bit thick now, but still beautiful and exciting when it needs to be and the girl still knows how to work a crowd.

  • @KathrynARyder
    @KathrynARyder 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SHAME on you Maestro Gergiev for allowing this travesty!!!!

  • @Homoclassicus
    @Homoclassicus 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, in the crescendo parts a slower tempo can help, indeed, but the whole thing here was much slower than usual. I agree Netrebko's timbre is a warm, full lyric column of sound, though I think she has the ability to darken and sharpen it to roles like LM. That said, of course she'll never convey the same "evil" that dramatic sopranos or mezzos like Callas, Verrett or Nilsson could. Those will always be the reference interpretations of this role, even if Netrebko is wonderful and versatile.

    • @alexandersporykhine
      @alexandersporykhine ปีที่แล้ว

      But with the slow tempo moderate for her voice she doesn't hit the high notes, and she's unsure and wrong on the low ones.

  • @operaclassicc
    @operaclassicc 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding the slower tempo that could help her I was refereering to the crescendo parts that need agility to respect all the notes. By stretching the tempo it could be easier to fullfill respectfully all the fast notes.

  • @GiuseppeSilipo
    @GiuseppeSilipo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Inespressiva, secondo me..non trasmette nulla...

    • @esterbruno8604
      @esterbruno8604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fosse solo questo!
      Si sente che fa fatica a cantare. È perché non canta nel suo repertorio.

  • @flicfan416
    @flicfan416 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are a lot of problems here, the coloratura being the biggest one, but the conducting is bad before she starts singing. Gergiev makes the orchestra sound utterly ordinary. I'm not judging her acting as this isn't a full operatic performance and its her first time singing any of this music in public. And in any event, she acts with more restraint than sopranos who roll around on the floor in this part like Nadja Michael
    Liudmyla Monastyrska sings this better; her acting as about the same

  • @inguaribileromantico4456
    @inguaribileromantico4456 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No one's actually envious, it's just about pointing objective musical problems, which have to be considered in addition to personal taste. Anna's beautiful, she has great stage presence, potentially a great voice, too, but she sings all in the throat without the right, healthy mask resonance to make the voice bigger and darker, this makes her tone flat, no nuances, and intonation is often flat, on the acuti you can hear very well the muchos, the effort of the throat rather then the sound flying

  • @Jimburu
    @Jimburu 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since I can't say anything nice...

  • @alexthomas1750
    @alexthomas1750 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even though I don't like Anna much, I really do wish she would find a middle ground. You can hear she's trying to head towards disaster, Norma! Her runs just aren't good. I would say she could be fantastic in my favourite opera, La Forza del Destino. It's perfect for her. No runs, but a grand role which hasn't been performed well in years. The Met should revive the Del Monaco production for her.

    • @MadonnaImperia
      @MadonnaImperia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forza is too heavy for her. She's a lyric soprano, a full lyric but still a lyric. Forza needs a spinto or a dramatic soprano.

  • @sergol2876
    @sergol2876 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    artist has the right to interpret even if you do not like this

  • @paullewis2413
    @paullewis2413 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's almost painful listening to this - Netrebko should never have attempted this role it is way beyond her capabilities The applause just shows how low standards have fallen in the world of opera no wonder we have such deplorable productions - why not, the art is virtually dead anyway. (no disrespect to the few outstanding singers we still have)

  • @operaclassicc
    @operaclassicc 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scecond the approach of Gergiev is a way to slow, mabye this was a condition that he took to adjust with Netrebkos abilities. The crescendos are not well focused, they are treated very linearly. She can develop it more in the future but I do not think that this could be her horse battle. Anyway she can continue singing it in various concerts.

  • @Portoinfinitivo
    @Portoinfinitivo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that really her?

  • @IMdRightGirl
    @IMdRightGirl 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful! Amazing voice!

    • @esterbruno8604
      @esterbruno8604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In roles like Mimì she's good.