Don't forget that you don't need to thumb rounds into your Rival mags; they're designed so you can put rounds on a table and, holding the mag upside-down, push the mag on top of the rounds on the table to load 'em up quickly. Hasbro put up a video with one of the Rival designer dudes and he explained that. I wouldn't have thought of it otherwise.
I've tried this along with the Apollo and honestly I like the Apollo better... as a pistol/secondary. I got the Helios expecting it to feel like a pistol but with a return spring, however the weight of it and the weight distribution made holding it like a pistol feel awkward. I think the Helios satisfies the springer-primary option, and the Apollo satisfies the pistol-secondary option.
I appreciate the video review, it was because of your review that i went out and bought a helios. I had always been a fan of the rival series based on off their design and accuracy, but found the double priming action for the apollo a little annoying. This model solved that issue, and i wouldnt of found out this information if it hadnt been for you video. Thanks a lot man. Keep up the great content. :)
I think if I was to make a complete upgrade mod for this into a primary, I would add a pump-action arm that disconnects at the fully-back position, to eliminate some of that human error. That, plus a slightly longer stock (personal preference) and springs would be about perfect for me.
Is the Helios supposed to sound like it is dry firing even if it is loaded? Mine is pretty loud when firing with or without a round loaded. Please someone tell me cause I would like to return it if it is defective.
I actually have this blaster at home, and my family forbids me from firing it while there’s people in front of me. They make me treat it like a real firearm.
This is an awesome little SMG if fired from the chest and not the shoulder! I take back my previous comment about this being a pistol. It is definitely not! A fun competition would be the Helios vs the Hera! SMG vs SMG! Just to note, I have noticed that aftermarket magazines tend to not fit the Helios because the aftermarket magazines are a bit too wide for the Helios. I have only noticed this problem with the Helios and not any other blasters. Furthermore, I would say that the problem lies with the aftermarket magazines and not the Helios itself. So, just to be aware. Also, I would recommend not forcing an aftermarket magazine to fit the Helios as the magazine will get jammed and then you will have to play with it in order to get it out because it is too wide for the hole.
@@HelloThereGameplays yeah sorry for being rude I just decided to say that so like 20 people are not like “ehhfhheufhhwjc u copied comment stupid idjriigiroovor” since they already saw I said it
I got this Twelve round Rival Magazine i am not sure what kind but when i put it into my Helios it got stuck so I had to take apart the Blaster, Was it Detective/Offbrand or was it Human Error?
Daniel Warrior no. Helios is not a Roman God, he is in fact greek titan of the sun. Titans came first before Gods. Since no one knows who Helios is, he faded away and gave the title of "sun god" to Apollo.
I didn't know you are a fire arms instructor. It's awesome knowing that you also like real guns too. I recently got a hades so won't be outgunned by my kids. 😂
Nerf 2017: recognizes some flaws with the Apollo and the Zeus and releases the Helios and Hera Nerf 2020: introduces more flaws than the original Elite line and releases Elite 2.0
Twospoopy4Yee Your “marksman side” is not necessarily your dominant side. I know plenty of right hands who prefer their left hands for a multitude or reasons, and a very close lefty friend of mine insists on using his right side for his primaries and his left for pistols.
Hello fellow right hand primer! I know they prime with their left hands because it gives them a speed advantage when they are on the field, but I like to install the handle on the right to fulfil the ''firearm fantasy'' of mine if that doesn't sound too childish lol.
I just got my first Rival gun for my birthday yesterday (yeah, my bday is april fools) and I actually meant to get this but got the Mandalorian Apollo instead. These things sound like actual freaking guns and I can't believe the punch they pack. I love Rival
im left handed and it annoys me so much when things aren’t ambi like even the alpha trooper it has releases on both side but the left side doesn’t work
I wish they would just make a basic m4 style rival blaster that feeds magazines through the front like a normal gun. It would also be nice to see the return of full auto springers and pressurized tanks.
Press on the trigger really hard or use something long to push the balls in and take them out using the unjamming door Edit: idk if it works for you but it worked for me
Coop doesn’t mention this in his video but the trigger does not slide straight back, it pivots at the top, and the trigger is relatively sharp, meaning that I found this blaster quite uncomfortable to use. The grip is also much larger than something like a Kronos and it’s also quite sharp.
Hey hey, Love the channel love the videos and love the reviews. I love the rival series, and more directly a fan of the springers, I am old school. I recently bought a Kronos, and a Helios. And, Well, I have one hell of a lot to say. First off, IMHO the handle/grip on the Apollo is 100% better than the Helios, simple satisfaction in the feel. The trigger is 100% better on the Apollo, simple feel, smoother, and better in every way. (I intend to buy a 2nd one, and then return one, to find out if I got a faulty unit.) The Magazine release on the Helios is borderline obtrusive, and is simply excessive, there was no reason to make it bigger and orange. The size difference is marginal, but the weight difference is significant. I bought the Helios for the side bolt, the spring loaded return, and hopefully a set of gears without a history of stripping (although my Apollo has had 0 issues. ) I like the slide/bolt action I like the spring return, However, I believe I would have been happier with the metal gears in a Phantom Corps Apollo If all the kids are using 7 shot springers, there is no "pay to win" and I do not need a 200 round Gatling gun. I will update when I find out if the trigger action is "normal" or a flawed gun. I have had zero jams, I have had NO issues with the spring return, and I have had no user errors. After using an apollo, one is accustomed to making sure the slide goes all the way forward.
If everything’s a Jolt reskin, and this is an Apollo reskin, which is also a Jolt reskin, is the Helios a reskin of a Jolt reskin, or just a Jolt-reskin like every other Nerf blaster? #joltception
i have one, put the lever in backwards, took it apart, cant put it back together. looking for some kinda tutorial on full strip then rebuild, or else im fucked
Mine definitely wiggles but the bolt handle is a separate piece that can be switched from one side to another so you'd expect some play here and there.
Don't forget that you don't need to thumb rounds into your Rival mags; they're designed so you can put rounds on a table and, holding the mag upside-down, push the mag on top of the rounds on the table to load 'em up quickly. Hasbro put up a video with one of the Rival designer dudes and he explained that. I wouldn't have thought of it otherwise.
Rival is Modern nerf at its best.
Elite 2.0 is Nerf at its worst.
When my friends and I play red vs. blue, we just wear blue or red shirts. We don't use the flags.
Ikr
correction:When my friends and I
@@mixgamers3045 me and my friends >>>> my friends and I
I dont care if its incorrect. lol
@@eric_t123 Me, my friends, and I
@Breckarl Walesh ik
5:59 I didn’t know u were a gun instructor.
@@rikerpolensky9112 nice
Does explain the trigger discipline, even with toys
Turk Hershberger neither did I(btw nice profile pic)
Same
came here for this comment
W8 he’s a firearm instructor. Wow I Never knew that was his job
Raul Philip Goco wait*
New?
@@greenwolf4173 it took me a year to realise that I spelled “knew” wrong
Not anymore I'm pretty sure TH-cam is his full time job now
Bruh, sign me up.
Upgraded Zeus. (Check)
Upgraded Apollo. (Check)
*RIVAL IS COMPLETE*
OrangeGamer Nope I still miss the sniper
maybe when you posted this but uhmm theres this thing called the promeatheus
Still no upgraded khaos.
Lori Lovell nemisis. Then the Prometheus is an upgrade to that
Upgraded nemesis *check*
Strange, when I got the Helios, it came with two 12 round magazines, not one 7 round mag.
SupremeLlama where u get it from?
😱
Did it come with 24 balls?
@@brianmullins2110 you're a failure
was it more than 31 bucks?
That side primer is so much better then the original Apollo.
I have a Apollo le Priming isn't bad 4 me :l
I like both blasters but I like the Helios much much better
Hell yes
@@amysong3017 what's ur age
I have original apollo and it isn't bad at all for me team blue bruh
I've tried this along with the Apollo and honestly I like the Apollo better... as a pistol/secondary.
I got the Helios expecting it to feel like a pistol but with a return spring, however the weight of it and the weight distribution made holding it like a pistol feel awkward. I think the Helios satisfies the springer-primary option, and the Apollo satisfies the pistol-secondary option.
The artemis is so much better than those two
@@wadakipvp Only problem is lack of quick reloads with magazines
@@redgamer821 true
Nerf is full ambi except decals on their blaster
Nirmit Patel just so right😂😉
That’s a good one
I wish they were but they aren't especially with the paint
They need to get of their butts and step up on decals
Nirmit Patel yup
1:09 That cheesy smile for “Its free real estate”
"With a really big butt that you are not supposed to touch"
Frank Cooper 2017
Monster Pumpkin lol
Its funny
Monster Pumpkin LOL
Monster Pumpkin I laughed so hard that water came out of my nose. So funny Lol xD
HAAHAHA lol
I appreciate the video review, it was because of your review that i went out and bought a helios. I had always been a fan of the rival series based on off their design and accuracy, but found the double priming action for the apollo a little annoying. This model solved that issue, and i wouldnt of found out this information if it hadnt been for you video. Thanks a lot man. Keep up the great content. :)
why choose red or blue? #teamphantomcorps
Phantomcorps4life
Team blue bruh
Super Autistic, you are right. When I see red I gouge out my eyes.
#BLUEFOREVER
Phantom corps forevah
Thanks for letting me know about the “human factor” jam
Now all we need is for someone to 3d print a kit that makes this a Sniper Rifle and we'll be golden.
I think if I was to make a complete upgrade mod for this into a primary, I would add a pump-action arm that disconnects at the fully-back position, to eliminate some of that human error. That, plus a slightly longer stock (personal preference) and springs would be about perfect for me.
"a really big butt that you're not supposed to touch"
-Frank Cooper (Coop772) 2017
Copied lol
Come up with ur own comments dont copy comments noob
@@person12321 ffs who cares!?!? I didn't even know man I just heard it on the video and wrote it!
@@FoamFlingingHS well who do you think said it's a copied comment lol
As a left handed person i love that the helios is full ambi bro
Is the Helios supposed to sound like it is dry firing even if it is loaded? Mine is pretty loud when firing with or without a round loaded.
Please someone tell me cause I would like to return it if it is defective.
Jason Tan yes that’s how it’s supposed to be
its a very strong blaster blasters like that are loud
It’s because rival Blasters don’t have air restrictors witch makes it more powerful but louder
Mine feels like it is about to break when it fires.
Mine does that and I’ve had no problems
I loved that “fully ambi bro” never stop making videos dude keep up the good work.
"Silly Muggles and their machines." Lmao!! :D
This reminds me of a space marine bolter. Mostly the big cylindrical priming bar, but overall it’s fairly similar.
The Apollo is the rival jolt EVERY THING IS AN APOLLO
Hayden Sicely that would be the Kronos lol
But the Apollo isn't, it is a Jolt reskin
The apollo is a retaliator reskin
Hieu Plays kronos has 99990 feet jolt is 9999999999 feet. Nothing beats a jolty boi
A really big but that your not supposed to touch. Good job coop!
butt not but'
Now give the Helios a Vs against the Artemis!
also, Helios Vs Apollo with your favorite pump kit on it
pretty plox!
Picked one up today for $18 today at Walmart, this thing is awesome!
Did you say 18$
Why is there no Rival Sniper?
because all of them are snipers
Thatcher RainbowSix Team maybe in the future
I don't think there should be a sniper just a scope attachment
Thatcher RainbowSix Team The elongated barrel doesn't equal accuracy in nerf it just reduces range. Rival.ks supposed to be practical, not tacky lol
Noah Torres a red dot and scope are to very different objects with different purposes -.-
I wanna see Frank do his testing procedure with a need blaster in a video.
I can't find any of the rivals in Greek stores pls help I live in Greece and I don't know where I can find them
I actually have this blaster at home, and my family forbids me from firing it while there’s people in front of me. They make me treat it like a real firearm.
While having firearm discipline is good, your family sounds like wimps. Rival doesn’t hurt that bad.
4:59
What happens if a rival ball somehow bounces off something and hits your monitor?
Oh there’s a story behind that
It survives, usually
Not sure if I should the bolt on the left and use my left hand to prime or have the bolt on the right and let go of the grip to prime
Mine came with an extended mag two of them!
I know same it’s the from the Black Friday sale where I got mine
He’s a hardcore foam flinger and a true gamer with his three monitor set up.
Please do the Dog Toy Launcher by Nerf review...
But I don't want to launch my dog. :(
Tox Laximus lel, it only shoots dog toys, they look like tennis balls...Giggity😂😂
Titanex Gaming hes got a cat not dog
Keatan Chandla but he can still review it
Titanex Gaming r/wooosh?
just got my helios today, love it. with a few 12 round mags it's actually viable as a primary as long as you have good aim
Coop! Revreaper and Quadrant (New Zambie Strike and Accustrike blasters) are out on Amazon! Do a review on em!
COOP AWESOMENESS PLUS TACTICAL. HUMAN BRAIN CAN'T HANDLE SO MUCH INFORMATION
04:00 I cried
I like calamari.
@@Mark-hp9bh I like pitogiro
Helios is the old god who gave his roles to appolo but in this case he takes over from appollo
This is an awesome little SMG if fired from the chest and not the shoulder! I take back my previous comment about this being a pistol. It is definitely not! A fun competition would be the Helios vs the Hera! SMG vs SMG! Just to note, I have noticed that aftermarket magazines tend to not fit the Helios because the aftermarket magazines are a bit too wide for the Helios. I have only noticed this problem with the Helios and not any other blasters. Furthermore, I would say that the problem lies with the aftermarket magazines and not the Helios itself. So, just to be aware. Also, I would recommend not forcing an aftermarket magazine to fit the Helios as the magazine will get jammed and then you will have to play with it in order to get it out because it is too wide for the hole.
I’m about to by the Helios and I wanted to let you know that I’m glad you told us how to fix the jamming problems
WHERE IS YOUR DART CATCHER?????
Boi, Dis shoots BAWLZ, not darts.
Older video
Ok
Inside Matt’s mum
@@postnuclearradiohost who is Matt?
*I WAITED SOOOOOO LONG FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!*
"NUT" in the url.
lol i love accidental innuendo
'A really big butt that your not supposed to touch' -Coop772 2018
Copied comment
Like come up with ur own comments noob
@@person12321 oh well I didn't see that other comment if there was one... :(
And also that's not what noob means.
@@HelloThereGameplays yeah sorry for being rude I just decided to say that so like 20 people are not like “ehhfhheufhhwjc u copied comment stupid idjriigiroovor”
since they already saw I said it
3:11 at this point it's just the kid friendly version of crips and bloods
Only 149k subscribers left!! Way to go coop772. Nice
I got this Twelve round Rival Magazine i am not sure what kind but when i put it into my Helios it got stuck so I had to take apart the Blaster, Was it Detective/Offbrand or was it Human Error?
I just came here to find out how to get my mag unstuck. Pulling really hard worked. I was afraid I would break it
Me:How many jolts do you own?
Frank:Everything I have is a jolt pretty much.
Fact:
Apollo is the god of sun but he is a greek god
Helios is also the god of sun but he is a roman god and he died so he gave it to Apollo
Running With Scissors, that's basically what he said
Daniel Warrior no. Helios is not a Roman God, he is in fact greek titan of the sun. Titans came first before Gods. Since no one knows who Helios is, he faded away and gave the title of "sun god" to Apollo.
Gab Viray the tiran sun god is krios
Captain Cookie helios is Greek and he is a God, so he can't die
Captain Cookie you are wrong krios was one of the directional gods like north, South, east , and west
I didn't know you are a fire arms instructor. It's awesome knowing that you also like real guns too. I recently got a hades so won't be outgunned by my kids. 😂
I just bought this i am love with it
Your content is quality coop. Keep it up because you help me have an idea of which blaster is best. Keep it up.😁
The Helios has a spring return!
*The Helios, a RIVAL blaster, has a spring return :o*
For some reason when I use headshot ammo In the Helios it shoots 2 for no reason
I love your videos Frank keep posting
I love the Apollo due to the ambiness. It makes it so much better.
So is the helios
No it's a jolt reskin
You beat me to it lol.
Ingmar Verweij lmao this joke is still alive
It's actually called the Nutshot
Dang I was gonna say that
Ingmar Verweij was about to say that
Nerf 2017: recognizes some flaws with the Apollo and the Zeus and releases the Helios and Hera
Nerf 2020: introduces more flaws than the original Elite line and releases Elite 2.0
This is gonna sound dumb, but I’m right handed and I Prime with my right hand.
For me it’s more comfortable.
Twospoopy4Yee Your “marksman side” is not necessarily your dominant side. I know plenty of right hands who prefer their left hands for a multitude or reasons, and a very close lefty friend of mine insists on using his right side for his primaries and his left for pistols.
Hello fellow right hand primer! I know they prime with their left hands because it gives them a speed advantage when they are on the field, but I like to install the handle on the right to fulfil the ''firearm fantasy'' of mine if that doesn't sound too childish lol.
I'm left handed and i prime with my left
@@jy5733 x2 XD
I just got my first Rival gun for my birthday yesterday (yeah, my bday is april fools) and I actually meant to get this but got the Mandalorian Apollo instead. These things sound like actual freaking guns and I can't believe the punch they pack. I love Rival
im left handed and it annoys me so much when things aren’t ambi like even the alpha trooper it has releases on both side but the left side doesn’t work
I wish they would just make a basic m4 style rival blaster that feeds magazines through the front like a normal gun. It would also be nice to see the return of full auto springers and pressurized tanks.
Basically, they reshell the Apollo, turn the bolt 90 degrees and give it a new paint job. Marketing
Added the hand grip under the muzzle
Spring return on the bolt
Added more rail
My new Apollo just came in the mail today. And then this video was uploaded.
Team Red vs. Team Blue = Bloods vs. Crips
Way to promote gangs Nerf!!
Coop is a firearm instructor!!!!! Yay!!!!
Can it slam fire?
WolfBreeze17 no sadly
Hello my Helios is jammed and I am not able to unjam it so what should I do
Press on the trigger really hard or use something long to push the balls in and take them out using the unjamming door
Edit: idk if it works for you but it worked for me
Try the unjamming button, press it down and prime it, if that doesn’t work, try opening the access door to see if there’s anything stuck in there
Ok thanks
It worked
Sick nice,bro!!
3rd comment
Why do you like blue?
Because blue reminds me of the blue sky and it also reminds me of the ocean
What's a sick nice?
Sick nice, bro is a reference to one of coop’s videos, so like sick as in cool and nice as in even cooler
I subscribed after watching your reviews I found them very helpful at helping me decide which gun is best for me
Sadly we cant get these in the uk as we dont have target stores
#thepain
Gecko Grenades you can get them at smiths toys super stores
No u cant get phantom corps
I checked
On amazon its not prime
I saw it on amazon.
Wait, you're a firearms instructor?! That's awesome! No wonder your trigger discipline is so good
Do a nerf combos video on the zombie strike clampdown ( it has a rail)
Coop doesn’t mention this in his video but the trigger does not slide straight back, it pivots at the top, and the trigger is relatively sharp, meaning that I found this blaster quite uncomfortable to use. The grip is also much larger than something like a Kronos and it’s also quite sharp.
"the apollo is just a pistol with a really big butt that your not supposed to touch" Frank Cooper 2017
Hey hey, Love the channel love the videos and love the reviews.
I love the rival series, and more directly a fan of the springers, I am old school.
I recently bought a Kronos, and a Helios. And, Well, I have one hell of a lot to say.
First off, IMHO the handle/grip on the Apollo is 100% better than the Helios, simple satisfaction in the feel.
The trigger is 100% better on the Apollo, simple feel, smoother, and better in every way.
(I intend to buy a 2nd one, and then return one, to find out if I got a faulty unit.)
The Magazine release on the Helios is borderline obtrusive, and is simply excessive, there was no reason to make it bigger and orange.
The size difference is marginal, but the weight difference is significant.
I bought the Helios for the side bolt, the spring loaded return, and hopefully a set of gears without a history of stripping (although my Apollo has had 0 issues. )
I like the slide/bolt action I like the spring return, However, I believe I would have been happier with the metal gears in a Phantom Corps Apollo
If all the kids are using 7 shot springers, there is no "pay to win" and I do not need a 200 round Gatling gun.
I will update when I find out if the trigger action is "normal" or a flawed gun.
I have had zero jams, I have had NO issues with the spring return, and I have had no user errors. After using an apollo, one is accustomed to making sure the slide goes all the way forward.
If everything’s a Jolt reskin, and this is an Apollo reskin, which is also a Jolt reskin, is the Helios a reskin of a Jolt reskin, or just a Jolt-reskin like every other Nerf blaster? #joltception
Illuminati:
Stay right where you are.
Kyle Buchanan
Woah
thisismyfirstusername i made this up dead meme
No its not an jolt reskin cause apolo isn't an jolt reskin so no
Woah, hes a Fire arm instructor . where do you teach?
1999 anyone?
I just tested my time traveling machine
Yes 1999
Whenever I try to invent time travel, I already have
Bwah, we all know it’s 1463
12000 BC anyone?
Sorry, can’t reply, I’m too busy jousting.
One of my cats sat in my lap while watching this so we just watched it together. :)
JUST THE TIP
😐
Same thing for the kronos. The slower you prime the more strength required
Hi Coop
thank you,this helped me out when I don't know where to put the magazine.
Hi Franklin
i have one, put the lever in backwards, took it apart, cant put it back together.
looking for some kinda tutorial on full strip then rebuild, or else im fucked
WOOOOOOOOW i want one
I want one too!!!
Lynx Lemonade finally a rival sniper (of course only if you make a cardboard barrel and install a scope and hot glue a bi pod 😁)
How is the bolt removed? 1:01
I ❤️ Helios! Better than the Apollo.
What if my triggar button isnt working? how do i fix it
Well it doesn’t matter they’re both jolt reskin sooo
I’m not sorry
thanks for the tips to remove the firing handle
Who watching in quarantine?
Me me me
@@jessasandoval9280 me
Does your bolt handle wiggle a bit? If it dosen't I have have a lemon, but Nerf blasters can be different here in Canada
Mine definitely wiggles but the bolt handle is a separate piece that can be switched from one side to another so you'd expect some play here and there.
I got the gun for my birthday dudes
cbsz Gaming Nice
Nice
same
Nice dude Nice!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
Apollo: who are you?
Helios: im you but better.
Ambi is so tacticol
Is granted a ride in a sun chariot, burns bits and pieces of the world, and still gets the title of a god and now a NERF blaster.