MONGAR Vs STAR RIVER | NATUREHIKE TENT REVIEW & COMPARISON!
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- The Naturehike MONGAR 2 and STAR RIVER 2 are quite similar tents, but just how similar are they?Join Trev as he takes a closer look at these two lightweight 2 person tents in this 2 tent review!
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After seeing this I think I'd just about (by a fraction) go for the Star River. The metal centre clip and only half mesh would seal the deal for me personally. Great comparison vid.
i was surprised they were the same weight especially as the monger has so much more netting ….. maybe the alloy poles are a bit beefier or something 🤔 there is a 15D version of the Mongar that i believe is 1.8kg (i have one 😄) looking at them both the Star River with more inner material seems a true 3 season tent whereas the Mongar is pretty much a 1 season maybe 1 1/2 season tent …. 😄 great review as always nice one Trev …. atb Dave Mc
I bought this tent because of the amazing reviews. I live in a place in Texas where the winds get up to 50-75mph which is quite bad and had a few tents collapse during a camp outs. I bought this one for this area and used it for another one the nature hike mongar 2 I have two of them. Beautiful tents! When it is 105 degrees outside those flap’s create a great cross breeze. Even my husband did great sleeping in the tent. 6 foot 3 inches. Still had plenty of room to have gear at the bottom. Wind was definitely not an issue. Especially with the huge stakes we had to nail into the rock hard ground.
Star River or monga?
Maybe this helps people - the Star River 2 is a Big Agnes Copper Spur UL2 clone and the Mongar 2 is a MSR Hubba Hubba 2 clone. Both based off top selling tents from the big brands - both very good for the price!
Hi, what's a good 2--3 man ? Some weather yes. Mid $ like these?
@@Frank020 Hi! Naturehike have some very budget friendly options in the 2 - 3 person range. The Mongar is available in a 2 or 3 person option. You also have different models like the Opalus or the Cloud Up which do 3 person models.
@@Strychninex Thanks..
I have the SR, and mine has the twist clips actually.. (green 20d). I love it, and chose it over Mongar because of the extra fabric and the head space. The only thing I wish they would change is the door opening.. 😅
Diitto !!
How is the tent in the wind?
Fantastic video Trev, really well put together with the side by side comparisons at each stage, I think I would have the star river 2 if pushed.. but I do like all the Naturehike tents, was out in the cloud peak 2 for the first time in a while last weekend and really enjoyed it 👍
I bought the Star River because of the better wind protection on the inside.
I hate the doors though. You basically have to fully open them to get in and out whereas with the Mongar (or almost every other tent), you can get away with only half opening it.
I have no problems with that.... Maybe you just have to lose some weight?
Yea, I know exactly what you mean. I find the doors on a few of the Naturehike tents let's them down.
I've owned the star river 2 for a couple of years now. She's a beauty. Just like the Big Agnes copper spur 2 but 1/6th the price. I dont even bother using the footprint, so the weight is only 1.8 kg.
Hey Paul. I just got my Star river and also think about ditching the footprint. How is your tent floog holding up after a few years of using it without the footprint. Any noticable wear and tear?
Curious about that as well!
Good review Trev. It’s always good to see the tents side by side. 😀
Thanks Rachel. Glad you enjoyed it cheers.
honestly i love both.. i have the mongar in green and love it.. especially in hot weather.. the ventilation is just perfekt and it held up in any rain and wind i put it through
The Mongar is, as far as I can see, the same model as the 3F UL Floating Cloud 2, at least from the frame.
This might mean that one could exchange the inner of the Mongar with the 4 season one for the Floating Cloud 2, seeing as Naturehike doesn't offer any other inners. Though the 3F inner has to be ordered from Ali over in China and doesn't come cheap...
Maybe someone who has access to both tents in their circle of friends can test it out?^^
Yes the Floating Cloud2 and Mongar can exchange the inners
th-cam.com/video/dtg0HYrSl7s/w-d-xo.html
But there is a solution for Star River too :)
th-cam.com/video/Zu1aUfsac1I/w-d-xo.html
@@namelessone5200 Nice
This was very helpful. I think the Star River will be best for me. Like you said it can be windy in the Mongar, and the size inside is more room to sit in the SR.
Well done, thanks for taking the time do do this comparison. Very informative!
Are you sure the trampoline is just for the kids ? 🤣 This channel is definitely the place to come for tent info. Cheers for helping out
The bloody trampoline has invaded my space! 🤣🤣 cheers Gus. Thanks for watching!
I would love one of these but as my wife has pointed out the nine tents already in the garage ( actually 13 plus tarps, couple of bivvy's and four hammocks, but who's counting)
I don't think I can justify it on a Thursday🤣😂🤣
We all know the struggle, but there is never a perfect tent, thats why you need plenty
I wished the Star River 2 came also in olive/forest green like the Cloud Up 2. That bright green is like a textmarker. No stealth camping possible.
I wonder who makes decisions to use light grey, purple, blue or orange for outdoor tents. Those are colors for festival tents at music events.
it does, check amazon. Looks great!
I have the Naturehike Cloud peak II and i love it. The Star River would be my choice but i would not use either in bad weather as i prefer a tent that pitches all-in-one. Great review Trevor.
Actually this is better for bad weather. You can set up the floor and fly then get in and build the inner while being dry.
Really helpful, thanks! I've been looking at both and with all the spiders I've encountered lately, I would rather have the door on the Mongar.
As the new proud owner of the Star River tent featured in this very video (won it via a Patreon competition), I would definitely recommend the Tent. So quick and simple to set up, reliable and warm when I’ve used it in high winds/rain on Dartmoor.
Glad you're enjoying it, Joe! Is a beautiful of a tent
Any issues to report ? Some people have commented that the zips may be quite tight (could have been a faulty batch though). Cheers.
@@cyrilhaessig27 I haven’t experienced any issues with the zips thus far. I was a bit sceptical about how the inner opens (by dropping to the ground) but actually now prefer this feature to other opening styles.
Thank you for the comparison , i really need this
The lower profile of the Mongar 2 is appreciated when the winds are stronger.
Great video, I wasn't sure which to gwt... But we just got our starriver 2 in green with the skirts, going to camp in it this weekend can't wait 👍🏼
Have fun! Thanks for watching!
These are the 2 Naturehike tents I've had, loves the SR but it was bright orange so got rid and currently in the Lakes in a dark green Mongar 2 which I also love
Looking forward to taking them both out at some point. Got rid of my star River last year because it had snow flaps... Jesus that was annoying!
I have a dark blue 15D Star river 2, it has a yellow inner fly. It makes the inside of the tent quite bright with a light on.
If you want a 2 person tent you should pick the mongar as you can sleep in opposite directions. The star river is more for solo camping because it has better headspace but shoulder to shoulder sleeping will be very narrow. So for 2 persons i would recommend star river 3 where I feel like the monger 2 is already ok. This has also more vestibule space
I wonder if the Mongar Vestibule Extension would work on the Star River2 🤔 or even better... naturehike makes one for the star river 2.😬
Trev you do the best reviews on You Tube - really thorough.
Cheers Terry, glad you enjoy them!
Love the video. I still think the cloud peak is the better nature hike tent
The net bit that was touching your head is called a gear loft, the "rainbow" style doors on the river tent are very American, they seem to like them like that, good comparison thanks.
Ah, thanks for filling in the gaps. Cheers!
These Naturehike tents are Chinese copies of the American designed MSR Hubba Hubba (Mongar) and Big Agnes Copper Spur (Star River). They are a fraction of the cost of the original tents.
What do you think of bivvy camping?
Awesome video, as always. I would love to see a Vs with the Cloud peak. Cheers from Colombia.
Will bare that in mind cheers, Julian!
I have a question 😊 You said the flysheet could be attached directly without the inner tent, does that mean it's possible to put up the tent flysheet first if it's raining hard, for example?
Thank your for such an AMAZING and thorough video. Tmits probably the best review I've ever seen on any tents!🎉
Have a look at this video on just this subject. And thanks for watching. th-cam.com/video/MyLVlE6_cb0/w-d-xo.html
@@SummitOrNothing Hi, thanks so much for replying, and for the link! I realized in the comments later that it is indeed possible. I'm now torn between the Star River 2 and Exped Lyra ii Meadow that's currently on sale. They seem to have very similar specs 🤔
The Star River, with the inner doors zipping up from the bottom... does it have a zip at both sides allowing a stable door type opening? This would help keep some weather out and offer a bit of privacy whilst still letting air in and being able to see outside.
Cracking video Trevor and will hopefully help some people to choose.
I bought the latest 15D star river 2 and it has the metal tags and the twist clips for the inner to the poles. It was the extra fabric rather than full mesh that swung it for me
Same reasons I bought the Star River 2.
I have the same version of Star River as in the video - Does the latest retain the fly clips on the ground mat corner tapes? Does enable fly first pitching if needed (though much more of a faff than inner first).
@@Dean_Smith mine doesn’t have the 4 black plastic fly clips. It uses the same method for ground sheet, inner and outer fly i.e. metal washer in nylon strap for all. I guess it is less fragile or possibly just cheaper to produce. Can still be pitched outer first.
@@dazauto107 Thanks!
I’m considering the star river for the same reasons. Does the fabric also provide better protection from rain as it raises the sides of the wall? I live in Australia so it’s quite warm when I go camping but still want good protection if there is heavy rainfall
I think i have a updated version of the mongar as mine kind of looks like the other except the mongar is the same size on both sides
Always look forward to your vids.
Super useful comparison, just wondering do you use a foot print when camping to protect your tents? My lanshan 2 bathtub is very lightweight I wonder do I need to protect it.
So the star river has double doors on both sides?
I like the SR over the M, except for that inner door.... One might just go and add a zipper to the bottom and then cut the fabric.
So at the end, which would you pick for a 1 person camping ?
Personally I'd chose the star river it does look roomy and less draughty a lot cosier for 2 people.
Same!!
Great,, complete review,, different a both tent,, so which one you recommended
Depends on where you plan to use it. For hot weather, the mongar is nicer. For colder weather, the star river makes more sense. For windy conditions, the cloud peak is a good option too.
The Star River looks that it may be warmer down low, more sheltered due to the higher fabric wall.
Хорошее видео! Спасибо😉
Thank you!
Hello tanks for vidéo it s very good.
I m 1,90m tall are the tents big enough? Thank you
Nature Hike doesn't seem to have any presence in UK and according to their website warranty is limited, customer has to pay for any returns, and sent items back to China.
How's your experience with after sales service?
I prefer the rainbow door!
Hello!! Which one would you recommend? the cloud up 2 or the star river 2. Thank you for your videos
Really Interesting! I would love to be able to combine the best features of both ;D
Thank you so much for this video!!
And now you got me on to the tent of Star River!! I really really like it!!
It is a BIT bigger, more spacious! And also something I noticed that you missed, even though the Mongar had longer roof poles, which I like, gives more vertical room, it actually closes in the door angle! And it means you struggle to get in an out more! Without getting wet!
The Star River is more open and I like the big wide doors!
QUESTION those GH: do you think I could fasten a roof loft somehow??
I really want all the bells and whistles of this tent (Star River) and I just want the roof loft that comes with the Mongar!
Plz respond! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Yea, I wonder if there is some way of adapting it to put a roof loft in it. I disnt pay enough attention to how it was attached in the mongar, if I'm honest. If I learn more I'll share it on here.
@@SummitOrNothing yes please!!
From all the videos that I enjoy to watch on TH-cam. I don't see a single one talking about how to modify your tent!!
Omg!! Why??
We need to be taught how to do that!!
Then you buy the tent that you love the most and can afford the most at this time and modify it to make it PERFECT!!! I just wish I saw that more in the backpacking community on TH-cam!!
There should be, there MUST be a way to do that!!
And please share!!
Here is a video of some modifications of Star River for the winter
th-cam.com/video/Zu1aUfsac1I/w-d-xo.html
@@namelessone5200 unfortunately no English subtitles, but one can see he added an additional sheet to cover the mesh, and added extensions to the outter
Cracking review mate thanks 👌👍
Excellent vid !!
" So first of all, let's have a look at package size". Then continues to juggle the two packs in front of the camera :D
perfect compare. thanks!
Star River is like a one plus person tent than a 2 person one.
Great review Trev, but let's face it, we all came here hoping for a repeat of your 5 star Onetigris review!
i felt a bit ill with the filming. Yuk. However, good review
Nice one Trev, I am starting to think that I need a naturehike tent in my life. I really want a lanshan though, arrggg, decisions!
Naturehike.... the lanshans are good but my go to is always the naturehike
@@SummitOrNothing what makes you say that? ( not disagreeing, just interested in the reasons ) The naturehikes do strike me as being more sturdy, but then I am drawn to the weight of the lanshan 1
I guess its all personal preference... I have had some good nights in the lanshan, always found it a bit more fiddly to put up, plus I've only got the summer inner for it. If you take hiking poles any way it's a bit of weight saver, but if not there's not a lot in it. Also, I think Lanshans are pretty expensive these days too... not as cheap as when I bought one. If you do get one or the other though, it would be worth going through outdoors gear essentials. Competitive prices and UK stocked
@@SummitOrNothing yeah, I have a lanshan1 in my basket on outdoor gear essentials ( thanks to your vid the other day )
Cheers for the response Trev, appreciate it, I will carry on pondering :)
Ryan
@@ryanrunningwild hi Ryan. One thing I would mention is the inner door differences. The T zip makes a massive difference in the tent but you can't get them from 3F UL as its a copy company that do them. I have 3 and 4 season inner with the T zip and its so much better to get in and out of (mostly on the 1 person version 2 will be easier as more room)
Отличный обзор.
Спасибо большое!!!
What do you think,not ultra light by no means..2.2 kgs is over 4lbs!.I heard 3lbs and under would be light weight....
I wouldn't say ultralight, no, but I'd consider these lightweight. There are plenty of 2 man tents weighing in over 4kgs, so these are manageable to say the least.
Right you are,I have a eureka two man tent ,weight is 5lbs .Really like your videos, thanks for taking us along..
The Mongar has been getting some terrible reviews, especially with regards to leakage. I personally think the best mid budget tent right nowm or at least in terms of quality is the new Wechsel Aurora 1. Looks quality! Thanks for the review, subbed! :-)
Does anybody know if u can roll the snow skirt up, on the star river?
No you couldnt... at least not on the old version I had with a skirt - it used to whip and flap something crazy... i hated it
1st! 👏😎
Congrats! 🍾🥂🥇
Ha!
Can you refer to the mongar as the “Mong er” in future videos.
Both of them are a waste of time for the UK climate
I've used both through all seasons in the UK. Never had a problem with our climate. The most middling climate you can get too, so don't quite get your point
@@SummitOrNothing the tent will be pissed wet through if it's raining whilst pitching
@@mrmods7912 stick the outer skin up first then. It's a freestanding tent so is easy to do that. I've done it myself. th-cam.com/video/MyLVlE6_cb0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KWCPa7FWPb21YWRc
@@mrmods7912 th-cam.com/video/MyLVlE6_cb0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KWCPa7FWPb21YWRc
This was the best comparison I've ever seen. Congratulations.
Thanks very much, glad that you enjoyed it!
I ended up buying both and have decided to keep them both. I prefer the Star River for myself because of the additional fabric that raises the height of the bathtub floor. The mongar is considerably wider which is a better design for two people so I will give this tent to my two daughters to use. The other differences in clips, pockets and cross member are not significant in my opinion. I took the star river out this weekend in the rain and it worked very well and I was completely dry.
Very helpful comparison thanks. A point missed. The Mongar has a much wider roof that puts an awning over the vestibule. While with the Star River when the fly door is open the rain is much more likely to drip into the tent. So the wider head room inside the Mongar, also means an awning over the door when getting in and out in the rain
A good point. Can make a difference in bad weather. 👍
Mongar 2 is great summer tent thanks to all the mesh. Ventilation is superb. For colder months, down side obviously is that it doesn't hold up much heat either.
Hi trevor! Can you please do a cloud up 2 and star river 2 or mongar 2 comparison please?
Love watching your videos, keep ‘em coming!
Great video. I think the Star River 2 is slightly better. It seems like an improved version of the Mongar 2, especially the extra head room. The only thing that would make it better is if it had a longer 'cross bar' (same length as the Mongar, rather than shorter) so the inside doesn't come in so much on the sides, and thereby losing space. That wouldn't matter, if you are sleeping in it by yourself, but might be slightly inconvenient if sharing this tent with a second person.
The Star River is pretty close to the Robens Boulder2 who is my favourite tent. I also own and love the NH CloudUp2, however...the problem I have with the NatureHike tents, is that they all have too much mesh and too little 'solid wall' inners. I live in Norway, the nights are getting colder, and if I were to go camping now, I would definitely bring my Robens Boulder2 and not my beloved NH CloudUp2,-for that reason alone. Too much mesh is a no-go for me exept in mid summer,-I've had enough cold nights thank you very much! Other than that, both these tents looks like they could do the job, I like the Star River the best, but...I still prefer my Robens😊
Also love my Robens Boulder 2. Feel the quality is a little bit better than my Cloud up 3 as well. Been out in 25mph winds and it was rock solid all night.
@@barijohn yes, it has been guaranteed to withstand 62 mph winds, so pretty sturdy stuff! And really good quality as well. Scandinavian/Nordic brands are built to handle the Nordic climate😊
This is an excellent comparison , thank you! It appears to me that, although on the sides the river is less roomy, it is more spacious at the feet and head, due to those sides being more upright, which would benefit taller individuals
Star River for me but the new blue 15D version. Only 1.7kg but I think it looks better in that colour too. Nice comparison trev. Can never have too many tents 😂👍
I'm gonna start getting rid of some tents soon. Need the space lol. Wasn't aware there was a lighter version of the star River but makes sense, naturehike seem to be making lighter alternatives to all their tents at the moment. Cheers for watching.
@@SummitOrNothing you should raffle them off for charity. I'm doing that with a chair I was sent. I won't raise much but every little helps eh? 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper Yea last year I put together a wild camping starter pack that I raffled 'for charidy' then gave a couple away to celebrate 10K subs... was thinking of doing the same thing this year.
I have the Star River 15D in blue. The inner fly now has the, "push up and twist" clips and metal attachments for the cross bar - same as the Mongar 2 shown. Also, my outer fly does not use the black attachment clips. It uses the same attachment system as the ground sheet and inner fly.
@@dazauto107 be interesting to see a review on the differences 👍
One of the best reviews. Thanks for the effort
Can the Mongar be modified to add more protection over the mesh?
I wish, Naturehike would make a lightweight one person tent like the Star River in dark green, brown or even better in camo without any refkectics on tent or ropes. Many people like me woukd appreciate this for stealth camping. I don't like the Cloud Peak. It has the entrance on the small side, not real comfy to get in and out, makes only a small vestibule and I miss the spreader-bar on top to have some head-space. In general, Nature Hike shoud get more in contact with their cusomers and listen to their demands.
Which tent would you prefer in the winter RObert? I agree , hate the color of the 4 season...
Excellent comparison,,, as I live in SE Asia, the Mongar 2 with full mesh tent is definitely more appropriate as I currently have a Marmot Limelight 2 that is similar in tent mesh as the Star River and is quite hot with limited ventilation. Both are basically the same size and quality in construction. Thanks again.
Just got a monger for similar reasons, heat. Haven't used it yet though
Ordered the Star River after that nice and detailed review! Many thanks for your work!
Interesting comparison, Trev. Really quite subtle differences that you can't really pick up looking at on the website. Think I'd probably choose the SR for the reduced mesh. But overall, still prefer outer pitch first tents. All the best👍
I got the star river and outer pitch first is possible and easy since there are clips on the ground sheet.
So when it was dry I inner pitch first.
In rain outer pitch first
@@jan-willemvanvelzen5114 Thanks Jan-Willem👍
@@jan-willemvanvelzen5114 Yep, same as the Mongar 2 - that can be outer pitched first too.
MONGAR and STAR RIVER are similar tents with similar space, if you like purple, choose MONGAR😁
I just bought the purple MONGAR2 from your website, great price, wonderful performance
What is never mentioned is that the white/grey colour reflects more heat in hot weather .. That's why it is so popular in America and the far east.
i've tried the starriver last night, amazing tent to be honest, very easy and friendly to build up
superb review. for both tents. thank you!!!
Great comparison vid - thanks for being so thorough
the exact comparison i was looking for!! thank you!
Great Video. The Star River 2 door that rolls to the bottom is probably my only (mild) complaint about it. Easy to flap outside and get wet - and in or out has a habit of catching mud etc if you're sat inside with legs/boots outside. But the actual opening looked much bigger than the Mongar. I couldn't quite see if the Mongar has the central light hook that the SR2 does ?
The mongar had no central hook but did have a kind of loft net! You could easily stick a torch up there
Ground sheet
Tent
Frame
Fly
"Insiders" and "Outers" are not a thing.
A brand new tent is always going to have tighter eyelets than a second hand one.
Great comparison pointing out the slight but important differences. Thanks a lot! This video made up my mind which tent is best for me.
And which was that?
Anyone tried the vestibule for the mongar2 on the Star river? Does it fit nicely?
Hey! Thank you for this explanatory-comparison review!! I made my purchase based on this video (Star River 🙂)
last time i bought mongar and tu be honest i really happy than i chose this tent.
after watching this I settled for the mongar 2
Гарний огляд!!!💙💛
I've been a naturehike fan for awhile and currently own a cloud up for over 3years - I love it as its ultralight and perfect for 1 person moto camping. Built well! Moved back to NZ from Japan and the weathers colder and windier here.. looks like the star river would be warmer but being higher would catch the wind. Also noticed no fly connection to the inner except on sides.
..which would be better in cold/ windy weather? 😳
Would like a comparison
Hi Bennet - out of these two I'd say that the star river would be the better of the two for colder windier nights - but you may even want to check out the cloud up 2 if you havent already. Tie off an additional guyline to the rear window and the thing is bomb proof. Also, I have never had an issue with the flysheet not being attached to the frame, it actually clips to the ground sheet or inner via the corners. Thanks for watching!
@@SummitOrNothing Thanks for the reply!! Yeah star river does look better for colder climates when ventilation isn't such an issue.. like the cloud up 2 but TBH I hated the front exit as side is much easier.. especially now Im over 40 🤣
Great reviews I think I would choose the star river as the inner would be better for my climate (Canada) had the cloud up 1 it was an ok tent the biggest problem for me was I always got a draft from the door just being mesh and the star river I can see I would not have that problem but unfortunately for me I would not buy a naturehike product anymore more had a very bad service from them but always good to see the reviews great videos have you ever reviewed a alps mountaineering tent was looking to get one
Love the mongar gear loft to dry out stuff while you sleep when it's wet outside.
Great comparison video mate :)
Love your videos. Learning so much. Which of these (or the Cloud Peak or Cloud Up 2 / 3) would you suggest for 2 adults new to wild camping? Something to cover 3 season?
I wondering that the same :) have you made an dususion yet?
So the star river is a big Agnes copper spur rip off.. and the mongar is the msr Hubba Hubba rip off..🤣 although they both look pretty decent tbh. Another great video mate.
That was a very comprehensive comparison Trev!
Cheers Dave!
Now try Hillman Early Bird 2, it's a little bit smaller than Mongar 2 and it's supposed to be in 20D too but the inner is true 4 season.
Thank you for sharing! This is very helpful