Good tutorial. My master cylinder had been topped off at some point so I needed to suck out some fluid with a syringe to avoid an overflow. No hiccups otherwise.
Very Nice video,i have the problem that I don’t know which brakes I need,do I need the 330mm or the 350mm?I have a 2017 Summit CRD V6 Diesel. Where can I look which I need?:/ thanks 🙏🏻 (Sorry, My english is not the best I’m from Germany)
350 in the front. 330 in the rear. You should buy the front + rear kit from Powerstop. That way you know you're getting the right parts. Go to www.powerstop.com and input the model and year for your jeep and it'll ask you a few questions about how you drive and then will give you the specific kit you need. Here's a link to the one you need from Amazon as well - amzn.to/3NvuwxG But the best thing is to go to Powerstop because you may want a different model number than what I'm recommending above. They have versions which are better if you do a lot of towing and/or hard driving. Hope that helps!
A lot of people say that it's just to keep the rotor in place as the car goes down the assembly line. But I haven't seen anything definitive from Jeep on it. The rotor is hard to get off with the o ring in place. Because of that I trust the manufacturer and put the o ring back on, but a lot of people toss them. I figure if they were disposable Jeep would remove them and reuse them to save money. Since they didn't, and the rotor is hard to remove with them in place, I put them back on in an abundance of caution. Would love to hear anyone else's opinion.
Do these kind of rotors need to be sprayed down first with brake cleaner? I have a set of power stop drilled rotors and want to be sure before i put them on.
I think my 18 takes a E20 External Star, and 11 MM Hex to remove the caliper and bracket. Also pretty sure you do not need that o-ring. The lugs once tightened hold the rotor on, not a little piece of rubber, lol. Thats usually used on the assembly line to hold on the rotor as it goes down the line.
question just change by brakes and rotors was super simple but i think tire rack sent wrong rotors is the caliper bracket supposed to allow the rotor to turn while it fully tightened?
Without seeing it that's a tough question to answer. Does the new rotor fit onto the mounting screws? Do the calipers fit with the new rotor on? Can you install the new break pads with the new rotor installed? If these are all yes, then those are good indications you have the correct size. From what I remember turning the rotor with everything installed is difficult if not impossible. Take it for a drive and listen for any grinding sounds. Worse case scenario take it to a local auto shop and have them double check. Hope that helps.
Here's a good discussion thread. It depends on your model and more specifically what brakes you have. The HD Brakes need a larger rotor. www.jeepforum.com/threads/2011-gc-5-7-hd-brakes-vs-standard.1421235/#post-14917137
Newer Jeeps take E20 sockets, Rear T55 inside torques. Not Changning Calipers be good to paint them before removing the brakes, get paint on the pads or old rotors doesn't matter. Helps with rust gives it a better look. I took the tires off painted put the tires back don't want to work with wet paint, wait a day change brakes.
@@spencerbuttrum I am old school never dawned on me electric brakes in the rear. I bought two sets including the E20 plus a bidirectional scanner put the rear brakes in service mode before swapping them out. A young guy fighter jet mechanic helped me because I am disabled how I learned.
One year later, I have no complaints. Brakes still work great. I've towed a camper up over Mt. Hood on a 3 hour drive to lake Billy Chinook, worked perfectly, even braking going down hill.
Another person asked this same question. I just took the broken o-ring down to my local Baxter Auto parts and we compared it to o-ring they had in stock until we found one that was close.
so there are 2 sizes of rotors for the wk2. the 2 sizes are 330mm or 350mm. If you have the 5.7L Hemi engine or if you opted for the tow package (which comes with the heavy duty brakes) then you will have the 350mm front rotors. Another way to tell whether you have the "heavy duty brakes" is look at your rear rotors, if the rear rotors are solid then you have the regular brakes with 330mm front rotors. If your rear rotors are vented then you have the "heavy duty brakes" and will have 350mm front rotors
Is this a WK2? It’s not an 11mm allen socket - it’s a 7mm, which I fortunately already had in my box. I bought an 11mm allen after watching this video and wasted $7. Also the torque for the caliper bracket is actually 89 ft pounds, 20 ft pounds for the slider pins. Maybe it’s different for the rear.
The performance is good so far. One of the downsides is that there's a lot of dust. The rotors don't look as shiny and new now as they do in this video. I can wipe them off and they look good again. But it's a hassle because quickly the rotors get covered in dust again.
🤣. Honestly because I'm terrible at converting between SAE and metric. I grab whatever is closest and go for it. At some point I should sit down and figure out the different systems, until then...close enough is good enough.
@@Moretimethanmoney there was a time when I was buying both for every tool I'd buy, but to be honest SAE is nowadays mostly for agricultural and heavy equipment, automotive industry went metric since the 80's. Problem with "close enough" is that I've learned the hard way, rounded so many bolts and nuts.
I tried getting that old ring replaced in the dealership told me that that is just a factory parts wouldn’t hold the rotor in place and that the part is not available. how did you get the replacement O-ring for the rotors?? Thanks.
Great video. Only one important step was skipped. Pins has to be lubricated as well
Great catch! Thanks for pointing that out.
This was very helpful! I need rotors replaced. Thank you.
Excellent video thank you for the reverse angle as well so people can see what you actually doing
Thank you for torque specs
Good tutorial. My master cylinder had been topped off at some point so I needed to suck out some fluid with a syringe to avoid an overflow. No hiccups otherwise.
I have a 02" & i got it a few years ago & its sure been journey learning to keep my jeep running smoothly.
I tell people if you don't like working on cars, don't get a jeep.
Great video, thank you!
Great video, thanks friend👍🏽
Great job
Great video, rear brake pad video?
Thanks
Torque wrenches are really over kill ,,,nice to have one but NOT necessary !! No bleeding brakes ?
Where to get the Oring @?
Very Nice video,i have the problem that I don’t know which brakes I need,do I need the 330mm or the 350mm?I have a 2017 Summit CRD V6 Diesel. Where can I look which I need?:/ thanks 🙏🏻
(Sorry, My english is not the best I’m from Germany)
350 in the front. 330 in the rear. You should buy the front + rear kit from Powerstop. That way you know you're getting the right parts. Go to www.powerstop.com and input the model and year for your jeep and it'll ask you a few questions about how you drive and then will give you the specific kit you need.
Here's a link to the one you need from Amazon as well - amzn.to/3NvuwxG
But the best thing is to go to Powerstop because you may want a different model number than what I'm recommending above. They have versions which are better if you do a lot of towing and/or hard driving.
Hope that helps!
This link also shows the specs for your jeep.
www.ultimatespecs.com/car-specs/Jeep/108362/Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-2017-30-V6-MultiJet-250HP.html
What’s the o ring really used for? I’ve done several brakes and never seen that item. Those rattle clips like to fly.
A lot of people say that it's just to keep the rotor in place as the car goes down the assembly line. But I haven't seen anything definitive from Jeep on it. The rotor is hard to get off with the o ring in place. Because of that I trust the manufacturer and put the o ring back on, but a lot of people toss them. I figure if they were disposable Jeep would remove them and reuse them to save money. Since they didn't, and the rotor is hard to remove with them in place, I put them back on in an abundance of caution. Would love to hear anyone else's opinion.
Do these kind of rotors need to be sprayed down first with brake cleaner? I have a set of power stop drilled rotors and want to be sure before i put them on.
Yes. I did. I cleaned them thoroughly before I mounted them.
I think my 18 takes a E20 External Star, and 11 MM Hex to remove the caliper and bracket. Also pretty sure you do not need that o-ring. The lugs once tightened hold the rotor on, not a little piece of rubber, lol. Thats usually used on the assembly line to hold on the rotor as it goes down the line.
question just change by brakes and rotors was super simple but i think tire rack sent wrong rotors is the caliper bracket supposed to allow the rotor to turn while it fully tightened?
Without seeing it that's a tough question to answer. Does the new rotor fit onto the mounting screws? Do the calipers fit with the new rotor on? Can you install the new break pads with the new rotor installed? If these are all yes, then those are good indications you have the correct size. From what I remember turning the rotor with everything installed is difficult if not impossible. Take it for a drive and listen for any grinding sounds. Worse case scenario take it to a local auto shop and have them double check. Hope that helps.
@@Moretimethanmoney yes fit also caliper fits. For the life of me cant figure it out took everything off and put back on
Dynamite video
I keep seeing two different sizes rotors for the 2011 jeep grand Cherokee limited how would I find out which size i need
Here's a good discussion thread. It depends on your model and more specifically what brakes you have. The HD Brakes need a larger rotor.
www.jeepforum.com/threads/2011-gc-5-7-hd-brakes-vs-standard.1421235/#post-14917137
where did you buy the replacement o-ring? ive been searching all over the internet and cant find the part
I took the broken o ring down to my local Baxter auto parts and we compared it to the o rings they had in stock until we found one that was close.
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Newer Jeeps take E20 sockets, Rear T55 inside torques. Not Changning Calipers be good to paint them before removing the brakes, get paint on the pads or old rotors doesn't matter. Helps with rust gives it a better look. I took the tires off painted put the tires back don't want to work with wet paint, wait a day change brakes.
Yeah, I just broke mine down to replace rotors, and that E20 socket held me up. Not a single store in my town has one either, so I had to order one.
@@spencerbuttrum I am old school never dawned on me electric brakes in the rear. I bought two sets including the E20 plus a bidirectional scanner put the rear brakes in service mode before swapping them out. A young guy fighter jet mechanic helped me because I am disabled how I learned.
1 year later, would you still recommend these brakes?
One year later, I have no complaints. Brakes still work great. I've towed a camper up over Mt. Hood on a 3 hour drive to lake Billy Chinook, worked perfectly, even braking going down hill.
What’s the replacement part you got for the o ring on the rotor?
Another person asked this same question. I just took the broken o-ring down to my local Baxter Auto parts and we compared it to o-ring they had in stock until we found one that was close.
If you're replacing the rotors, you got to remove the bracket as well. Why not just remove the bracket and leave the slider bolts intact
Did you open brake fluid cap during replacement?
Yes, I do. I forgot to mention that. Although, to be honest, sometimes I forget to do it.
This is not necessary at all, air has no way in and even if it did, cap is vented and theres air in reservoir so it would just bubble up 👍🏻
Power stop are great,,,40,000 on my front breaks,,break-in procedure is IMPORTANT however !!
How did you know you jeep required that special 11mm hex socket?
Trial and error and I saw some threads online on Reddit and Jeepforum.com that mentioned it.
My take a 7mm hex bolt
Mine takes a 10mm
@@345gc8what year jeep Cherokee do you have?
@@GT-uw1pi 2020
What outside diameters rotors did u buy?
I bought the Power stop Z23 brake and rotor kit. There's a link to them In the video description. I think the dimensions are 16in.
so there are 2 sizes of rotors for the wk2. the 2 sizes are 330mm or 350mm. If you have the 5.7L Hemi engine or if you opted for the tow package (which comes with the heavy duty brakes) then you will have the 350mm front rotors. Another way to tell whether you have the "heavy duty brakes" is look at your rear rotors, if the rear rotors are solid then you have the regular brakes with 330mm front rotors. If your rear rotors are vented then you have the "heavy duty brakes" and will have 350mm front rotors
What size rotors are those
According to Powerstop's website the Z23 rotors are 330mm.
www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z23-brake-kit/
Is this a WK2? It’s not an 11mm allen socket - it’s a 7mm, which I fortunately already had in my box. I bought an 11mm allen after watching this video and wasted $7. Also the torque for the caliper bracket is actually 89 ft pounds, 20 ft pounds for the slider pins. Maybe it’s different for the rear.
Its the back that's 7mm. The front is 11mm. This video is the front brakes.
@@wwcranker Gotcha.
How is the performance on these brakes
The performance is good so far. One of the downsides is that there's a lot of dust. The rotors don't look as shiny and new now as they do in this video. I can wipe them off and they look good again. But it's a hassle because quickly the rotors get covered in dust again.
@@Moretimethanmoney Thank you because I was about to purchase these for my grand Cherokee
Would you recommend?
@@JACKBOYZzzz I would.
what are the torque specs
See the video description, torque specs are there.
Why SAE tools when everything is metric?🤔
🤣. Honestly because I'm terrible at converting between SAE and metric. I grab whatever is closest and go for it. At some point I should sit down and figure out the different systems, until then...close enough is good enough.
@@Moretimethanmoney there was a time when I was buying both for every tool I'd buy, but to be honest SAE is nowadays mostly for agricultural and heavy equipment, automotive industry went metric since the 80's. Problem with "close enough" is that I've learned the hard way, rounded so many bolts and nuts.
Where can I buy new O rings? I can’t find them that fit our model. (2014 Jeep grand. Limit. )
I took one to my local Baxter Auto parts store and we were able to find one that was similar.
My 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee take a 7mm and not 11mm
I tried getting that old ring replaced in the dealership told me that that is just a factory parts wouldn’t hold the rotor in place and that the part is not available. how did you get the replacement O-ring for the rotors?? Thanks.
I took it down to my local Baxter auto parts store and they found one that was similar.
Yeah. The dealer told me no need to put it back on. But I’m going to. Just because. Thanks!!
Thanks