19 Things in KPOP You Need to Know This Week - Stray Kids, NewJeans, aespa, IVE, BLACKPINK, ASTRO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- 00:00 HYBE VS ADOR UPDATES
- NEWJEANS DANIELLE RESPONDS TO FANS CONCERNS
- AESPA WINTER'S DAD SEEMINGLY REFERENCES BANG SHI HYUK'S TEXT
- ADOR ACCUSES HYBE AUDITORS OF HARASSMENT + HYBE RESPONDS
01:38 FROMIS_9 CHAEYOUNG APOLOGIZES FOR MESSAGE REGARDING LACK OF PROMOTIONS
02:25 SASAENGS UTILIZE NEW METHOD TO CONTACT SEVENTEEN DK
- STARSHIP RESPONDS TO IVE WONYOUNG THREATS
03:07 H1-KEY HWISEO ADDRESSES DATING RUMORS WITH AMPERS&ONE'S KAMDEN
03:48 NEWJEANS HYEIN TO SIT OUT OF COMEBACK PROMOTIONS DUE TO INJURY
- P1HARMONY JIUNG UNABLE TO CONTINUE U.S TOUR DUE TO INJURY
- KARA NICOLE ENDURES INJURY DURING VARIETY SHOW FILMING
- WAYV WINWIN TO SIT OUT OF JUNE COMEBACK DUE TO DRAMA FILMING
- CANDY SHOP YUINA TO HALT ACTIVITIES + BRAVE ENTERTAINMENT TO RECRUIT NEW MEMBER
- ATBO SEOK RAKWON DEPARTS GROUP DUE TO HEALTH ISSUES
05:28 POSITIVE THINGS TO CELEBRATE IN KPOP:
- BLACKPINK LISA BECOMES FIRST KPOP ARTIST TO WAVE THE F1 FLAG AT MIAMI GRAND PRIX + JENNIE AT MET GALA
- STRAY KIDS BECOME FIRST KPOP GROUP TO ATTEND MET GALA
- GOT7 BAMBAM AND RED VELVET SEULGI PERFORM 'WHO ARE YOU' FOR THE FIRST TIME + BAMBAM TAKING CARE OF SEULGI IN THAILAND
- ZICO DOES SPOT! CHALLENGE WITH VIRTUAL GROUP PLAVE
- COMEBACKS & RELEASES INCLUDING EXO D.O., KARD B.M FEATURING JAY PARK, ASC2NT, TRIPLES, BTOB SUNGJAE, ARTMS, BTS RM, AND MORE
- MUSIC SHOW WINNERS INCLUDING LEE CHAN WON, MAMAMOO SOLAR, SEVENTEEN, AND ILLIT
- ILLIT DEBUT ON BILLBOARD 200
- ANDA ANNOUNCES MARRIAGE
- ASTRO MEMBERS ATTEND BILLLIE'S FANCON + TREAT PARENTS AND SUA TO DINNER ON CHILDREN'S DAY
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00:00 HYBE VS ADOR UPDATES
- NEWJEANS DANIELLE RESPONDS TO FANS CONCERNS
- AESPA WINTER'S DAD SEEMINGLY REFERENCES BANG SHI HYUK'S TEXT
- ADOR ACCUSES HYBE AUDITORS OF HARASSMENT + HYBE RESPONDS
01:38 FROMIS_9 CHAEYOUNG APOLOGIZES FOR MESSAGE REGARDING LACK OF PROMOTIONS
02:25 SASAENGS UTILIZE NEW METHOD TO CONTACT SEVENTEEN DK
- STARSHIP RESPONDS TO IVE WONYOUNG THREATS
03:07 H1-KEY HWISEO ADDRESSES DATING RUMORS WITH AMPERS&ONE'S KAMDEN
03:48 NEWJEANS HYEIN TO SIT OUT OF COMEBACK PROMOTIONS DUE TO INJURY
- P1HARMONY JIUNG UNABLE TO CONTINUE U.S TOUR DUE TO INJURY
- KARA NICOLE ENDURES INJURY DURING VARIETY SHOW FILMING
- WAYV WINWIN TO SIT OUT OF JUNE COMEBACK DUE TO DRAMA FILMING
- CANDY SHOP YUINA TO HALT ACTIVITIES + BRAVE ENTERTAINMENT TO RECRUIT NEW MEMBER
- ATBO SEOK RAKWON DEPARTS GROUP DUE TO HEALTH ISSUES
05:28 POSITIVE THINGS TO CELEBRATE IN KPOP:
- BLACKPINK LISA BECOMES FIRST KPOP ARTIST TO WAVE THE F1 FLAG AT MIAMI GRAND PRIX + JENNIE AT MET GALA
- STRAY KIDS BECOME FIRST KPOP GROUP TO ATTEND MET GALA
- GOT7 BAMBAM AND RED VELVET SEULGI PERFORM 'WHO ARE YOU' FOR THE FIRST TIME + BAMBAM TAKING CARE OF SEULGI IN THAILAND
- ZICO DOES SPOT! CHALLENGE WITH VIRTUAL GROUP PLAVE
- COMEBACKS & RELEASES INCLUDING EXO D.O., KARD B.M FEATURING JAY PARK, ASC2NT, TRIPLES, BTOB SUNGJAE, ARTMS, BTS RM, AND MORE
- MUSIC SHOW WINNERS INCLUDING LEE CHAN WON, MAMAMOO SOLAR, SEVENTEEN, AND ILLIT
- ILLIT DEBUT ON BILLBOARD 200
- ANDA ANNOUNCES MARRIAGE
- ASTRO MEMBERS ATTEND BILLLIE'S FANCON + TREAT PARENTS AND SUA TO DINNER ON CHILDREN'S DAY
ateez was recently announced as headliners for the mawazine festival! not only ateez would become the first k-pop act to perform at mawazine, but it’s the 2nd biggest festival in the world!
Winwin talked on bubble that the company had settled with him a date for the album production in 2024. And later this year the album got pushed earlier and he couldn't make it because he was already working on the drama in China and wasn't prepared to be in Korea sooner than it was combined previously
I always can get the kpop news from you because you don't go and believe people who have no proof and that can end up bad for instance idols ❤
@@mikaela7757 yes! Planning on talking about it when we get closer!
If I’m not mistaken Itzy’s Ryujin posted a pic to her IG forgetting that she had a vape in her hand😬
She quickly took the photo down, don’t know if she said anything regarding her situation
That’s actually so scary. Imagine picking up the phone to talk to one of your members but instead it’s a sasaeng. The lengths some “fans” go to to harass these idols is insane. I hope Dokyeom’s okay!
For real! I just don't understand why people always want to meddle in people's private lives (love ur pfp!)
@@paintris15 I love your pfp too lolll
Scary? Have you ever had someone call the wrong number? Jesus Christ the kpop community is so unbelievably dramatic. Scary is when a Sasaeng poisoned Junho's drink with Glue. Not when a sasaeng spoofs their number.
@@dariang4725 If he's saying its a sasaeng that means something was said for him to assume its a sasaeng. Just cause they aren't getting physically hurt doesn't mean it's not affecting them. Knowing someone's number can lead to finding their personal information. Way to turn stalking and harassing idols into a competition.
I'm not sure what having someone calling you and having the "wrong number" has to do with anything, as if a sasaeng was using technology to disguise their number as Seungkwan's this wasn't an innocent "wrong number" situation. Yes, situations like *Yunho* having his drink poisoned are extremely scary - and obviously much more _physically_ endangering than a phone call. That doesn't mean things like what happened here to DK are okay or can't be scary in their own right. Stalking is scary - and essentially, that is what is happening here. It definitely can be _mentally_ endangering. I won't disagree that kpop stans can be super dramatic about very silly things, but this is not one of those situations. Sasaengs are scary, period. @@dariang4725
Astro practically adopting Sua as their little sister will forever be one of my favorite things. Moonbin brought them together and they continue to go on even after losing the person that brought them all together. Astro and Sua are family not friends
so heartwarming to know that astro and sua are there for each other
Astro taking care of Moon Sua is so sweet!!!
Bambam and seulgi's part is so cute 😭😭😭
why does she have to apologize for wanting to do work? lol that was definitely an order from the company.
that's what I thought as well! It's giving dictatorship
I was hoping you’d bring up the fact that apparently Chris Hemsworth picked up(?) the members of skz. like that was not on my 2024 bingo card
HAHA I definitely would've if there was footage. I thought it was a joke story at first but then the guys actually talked about it 🤣🤣
Picked up??? As in over his arm or something?????? Becazse of how small they are compared to him?? 😭😭😭😂😂
@@soulmatechan He lifted Chang Bin, Chris, Hyunjin, Ji Sung, Seung Min, and I.N.
@@mxm7647Felix would have passed out from the height 😭😂
HELLA COOL!! First Deadpool, then Wolverine, and now THOR?!?! They are LIVIN the DREAM!! I wonder who will be next with the "Superhero" meet and greet???? :)
i love how astro treats moon sua like their little sister
okay but chaeyoung is right on the nose about pledis not promoting them we've seen this with all their previous girl groups. especially pristin (RIP we'll miss you girls forever)
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Apologizing for saying she wants to work is wild.
She has every right to feel the way she does.
Ngl, I'm glad Dani is acting like this, rather than bottling up everything inside and putting up a fake smile. Being able to freely express how you feel is such a must for these idols.
chans (most likely) sarcastic bubble message + how much we know they are online tells me that they definitely know what happened and stays reactions. i hope they had a good time otherwise and made the most of it!
What reaction tho??? I haven't seen it since I don't have Bubble and I haven't been going to Instagram lately 😭😭
@@soulmatechan he said something along the lines of "we had so much fun, everyone treated us so respectfully~😊"
Many assume it's sarcastic cuz he rarely uses emojis ever and the tilde "~" too. (And bcuz this emoji is used ironically most of the times)
fromis_9 deserve so much better :( i hope that we get a comeback soon and that they can continue on for a long time
I don't think it's a coincidence that fromis_9 isn't getting any activities. I feel like they are getting the GFRIEND treatment and HYBE is just waiting for their contracts to expire to disband them. They only want girl groups they have full control of. Tbh, their behavior reminds me a lot of Microsoft buying up lots of smaller game companies, letting them produce a few solid games, and then shutting them down. Some in the middle of game development for announced titles. HYBE is just the same. Corporate trash ruining lives.
Seeing Astro support Moon Sua and their Parent’s Day Dinner was really nice.
You are the only one I trust with Kpop news, thank you!!
I appreciate that! Will always try to be as accurate as possible for you guys!
KPOPJunkee and Doyouram, for me. Seriously quality.
Skz disnt deserve that treatment, and honestly, no idol deserves that.
I do think Ador is trying to bring everyone down with her
I feel like pledis is always going through something.
I havent seen Nicole is a while and missed her.
Good for winwin getting morw into acting .
I hope more companies let idols go on hiatus for mental health,physical health and due to health issues /diaabilities or just like injury and stufd
i don't usually comment multiple times on a video but i had to with this. astro treating moon sua as their little sister is so sweet and heartfelt!! as a little sister to brothers myself it warms my heart to see her treated with such love! moonbin chose a great group of brothers for her. i'm so glad she's come back and that billlie is 7 once more too.
It’s so nice seeing Bambam and Seulgi and the fact he let her perform her solo at his concert is so cool❤
My guy Bam really doing it all for my girl Seulgi 😭
Lisa being the first kpop idol to wave the chequered flag and Lando winning his first race!!!!
i hope jiung gets better soon 😓 and all these poor idols stay safe 🙏🙏
The way all hybe subsidiaries or labels have been dealing with lots of issues recently is crazy 😅
I need both HYBE and Ador to only talk when they have reached a result or something. I am tired of all the press conferences and releases.
We just escaped from the SM and Lee Soo Man situation. Then the SM and EXO CBX stuff (I know it's not the same but still). It's too soon🙏 I am fatigued.
They do it on purpose. Press releases have one use - to sway public opinion and win the emotional war. Regardless of who wins the legal battle, its the public battle that determines who will continue being profitable, because the people are the ones giving them money.
I am sure it's not new but bangchan looked unreal at the met gala I just had to see if he stopped your world too
I feel so bad for stray kids 😕😕
No but for real I played Fromis9's rewind the other day and started wondering where they were. She has every right to complain. They better discuss Pledis' lack of care for the girls on the 31st.
The Moon Sua & Astro news was so heartwarming ❤
Astro looking after Sua makes me tear up 🥹
Bambam and Seulgis friendship will never fail to amaze me 😭❤️
NOT JIUNG! 😭😭😭 He's my bias in P1. I'm about to see them in 2 weeks and he won't be there?? 💔
Wish hybe and pledis treated fromis_9 like all their other artists!! as an aroha and belllieve, it's been so nice seeing them support one another
What I like about your videos is that there are always good news in the end full of positivity
At this rate 2024 is going to be remembered for Magnetic and Hybe drama 😂
Thank you for keeping us updated in the Kpop scene. I just got home last night from 19 days in the hospital where there was no Wi-Fi so I have no idea what’s been going on. I love your videos - thank you for taking the time to research and put everything together in an easily digestible format. I’m so glad Astro continues to watch over and support Sua, and I just know they’ll continue to be her older brothers and protectors forever. It’s so good that she has that strong support system and as an Aroha I’m very proud of all of them and love them and Sua so much; and I continue to miss Moonbin. It’s hard to believe he’s been gone over a year already.
Omgoodness I hope you're doing better now! I'm glad the videos can help even if just a little! It's been crazy in the KPOP world, but your health is definitely much more important!
The amount of things keeps growing each week 🥲
Thank you for all the updates. You're the best.
Your videos make fridays so much better, thank you :)
omg this comment made my Friday better too 😭😭😭
OMG how did I miss this😮
WE LOVE YOU KJ ❤
🤗🤗🤗
Someone needs to buyout formis9 members contract. The wasted potential is real.
Love it! Thank again for all your hard work on reporting the Kpop news! Love it! lol you KpopJunkee! Always and forever a fan! ❤
thanks bro
I was watching the race and it showed lisa and i just remember doing a double take and yelling LISA?!?!? I wasn't expecting her to be there 😭. It was so funny.
wishing the best for jiung 🤟
Mashiho will also be the MC for Kcon japan
I think you should've also added how Bambam made history by being the first soloist to sell out the biggest stadium in Thailand, not just his concert in regards to Seulgi
I am still so sad about atbo rakwon cus he left exactly 2 yrs since he was announced as apart of the group on their survival show.
Oh, god.... the last bit I know it's from the positive section and I'm soooo happy for the family photo... but... TT
Omg the collab news stories are so wholesome, shoutout to idols looking out for each other like family 🥹
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Love your videos :)
Ahh I'm glad!!
what about ateez on the lineup for Mawazine festival? that's huge
Yes! Planning on talking about it when we get closer!
@@KPOPJunkee YAAYY
i love plave so much
Go, Illit!
Also not only did Stray Kids get insulted by paparazzi but also people were insulting their outfits for some reason even though they had one of the better suits in my opinion
idk why would u not talk abt bambam sold out biggest stadium in thailand as solo artist but mention only abt his concert with seulgi parts
yh that lowkey pissed me off
6:41 lol respect
Unfortunately for fromis_9 there was another "incident" with Hayoung getting emotional wanting to sing more during a recent livestream
Can everybody just stop getting sick and injured? Just for like two weeks, no new hospital visits, no new hiatuses? Managers, please wrap your idols in bubble wrap and keep a case of orange juice on hand.
injuries are extremely common... what does managers have to do with anything? girly what
Good Friday Evening KPJ! :)
First impressions are always hard. Mr. Hilfiger and Stray Kids seemed to hit it off really well. I'm glad he was so down to earth with them and allowed their own different personalities to shine through their clothes as well as making their group attire look cohesive. I honestly think they all looked quite dashing. They all seemed comfortable in their clothes and that is part of their charm. Since this was a first experience for not just the boys but Mr. Hilfiger himself I think it was an amazing Gala appearance, despite the hypocrisy of the attending media. They say that "Opinions are like a**holes....everyone's got one but it doesn't mean that one is better than the other. Although the media tended to act like trolls rather than fans or just spectators, it was the media's fault for the public outrage. Their unprofessional attitudes should warrant job losses or at least cuts in pay. I am also extremely proud how Bang Chan handled the moment in removing his mates to a safer environment. I hope when they reached that safer place that he told them how good they all looked. Stray Kids are an amazing group. They are more than just a group of co-workers, they act more like a family. They may tease each other, maybe even mercifully...but when the family is attacked, they protect each other fiercely. A wonderful family indeed!!
I wonder if idols like DK would benefit from creating a "safe word" between members only that would help identify them before the idol even used the phone. When the phone rings they can have their handler answer by asking "what is the 'safe word' ?"...if the other person doesn't know it, then the handler should just hang up on them. The idol would never have to be involved at all. :) It's a bit of an old school trick before caller id was a thing. Extremely effective. :) There truly is no need for a sasaeng to be bothering an idol's personal phone.
Awww BamBam is such a sweetheart for his treatment of Seulgi :)
I'm so excited to see Winwin perform in a drama! :) I know he's slated for three so far. I'm curious to see which one will come first!
I am so proud of Seventeen!! :)
Hoping a speedy recovery for many idols regardless what they are currently dealing with.
Love and Light!! :)
I like your safeword idea. The only thing I would say is that you should never directly say "What is my safeword?" Instead, you should say something like, "I would like (food I DON'T want) for dinner."
@@audreyparmenter2000 Splendid idea!! :)...as long as it's easy for the idols to remember and it's something never revealed to the public. Something that can't be searched online...Top Secret. :)
Exactly.
It physically hurts if my babies NewJeans are unhappy, it’s quite sad it’s like parents getting a divorce. The saesang fake caller id stuff is so crazy and scary. So glad to see idols supporting each other even the AI idols
5:41 I WAS SO SHOOK CAUSE I WAS SO HYPE ABOUT THE RACE WINNER THAT WHEN I SAW LISA I WAS LIKE???? WHAT THE???
How is manipulating your caller ID a new thing? People have done this for ages in the U.S. Is this a new feature for South Korean phone companies? You can even do this online lol...
I don't believe he was saying it's a new thing, but rather a new tactic Saesangs are using.
@@calicokaels Oh I see, thank you for explaining. 😊👍
pls add plave's melon award to the positive happenings in kpop 😢
My man BamBam 🥹❤️🖤
Actually Lisa is not the first kpop artist to wave the checkered flag, Psy did so for the 2013 Seoul GP😅
I think he means the first at the Miami GP, not the firstvin general.
Psy's not Kpop.
@@klynb He is a korean pop artist, so his music is kpop. He might not be considered an idol, because he precedes idol culture, but he promotes in the same way, so it is just semantics i guess haha
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If they disband Fromis_9…. Hell will break lose!!!!!
Each ticket for the met gala was $75,000 so stray kids had to pay $600,000 to go. That's insane.
7:43 Sungjae released an album not a single
Ah idk why I said single! Thank you!!
@@KPOPJunkee no worries👌🏻
jennie 🤝 stray kids = not on theme at the Met Gala 😅
I seriously don't know why designers aren't dressing the kpop idols on theme. They could be ACTUALLY serving but instead they consistently play it safe. This is Jennie's second offense.
I know its unlikely that anyone will know the answer but is the reason that rocky is missing from the photos with astro and moon sua because he’s in a different agency?? Nobody seems to mentioning this but i kind of assumed that astro still had a good relationship even after rocky went solo so i’m surprised he’s not in any of the photos… obviously ik moonbin cant be with us but it does make me sad thinking that astro wont even continue as 5
Bambam (and all members of got7) is a real gentlemen, so nice to let Seulgi perform her solo at his concert! And the live performance of their song,, I'm so jealous of the fans that were there haha!
Oh my god… never been so early to a video… (28 seconds)
Ateez headline Mawazine!!!
Yes! Waiting until we get closer to include!
First
THEE Rice Squad?! I'm a big fan of your videos with Suki from Avatar 😱😱
will RIIZE be 7 again, please say yes!
aww it's so heartwarming to see astro with sua. it must be so hard being all together without the person that ties them together, but now I guess she's much more than just moon bin's little sister, she's their family just like he was (and will always be).
BamBam once again showing everyone he is one of 7 gentlemen in his group! 🤭🫶🏻
Bambam better than SM at caring for their idol lol
noooo hyein
Does anyone blame Aespa's dad? He's perfectly calling attention to HYBE's horrible actions with regard to his daughter who had no relationship to Hybe.
Min Hee Jin is freaking crazy, she has to be stopped wtf
I can't help but be disappointed in Jennie's second overwhelmingly underwhelming MET Gala appearance. It's like she doesn't understand the event in the slightest. I love her and her style in general, but ugh, this isn't the VMAs, girl. You've gotta at least PRETEND to give a shit about the theme. That's, like, the whole point of the MET Gala red carpet.
Tbf, I think this was a better outfit than her last one, but yeah, I wish the designer/stylists would've been more adventurous. Maybe she'll build up to it?
@@em5522 If they even invite her back. She didn't understand the assignment either time.
Imma need an update on the whole Hybe cult situation because this drama was all shits and giggles until THAT was brought up. And frankly, I don't wanna give that company nor any of its artists a single dime if there's ANY truth to it.
It's sickening. If this newly unspoken artists are your boyfriend/girlfriend concept wasn't a thing people wouldn't be behaving the way they are, and the awful behavior wouldn't be seen as understandable or common. It's too much. It's about music, not possible dates. Stalking is not understandable or normal.
I love when artists go to each other's concerts!
Idk why but I don't really like the title "x things you should know this week." Makes it seem like a trivia, somehow making me not as excited to click the video instead of the highlight in the title, which made me excited knowing what big news was happening in the week.
I appreciate the feedback! There are actually a few reasons I decided to format it like this. I'm still brainstorming ways to tweak it. Always open to suggestions though!
@@KPOPJunkee I'd say go back to your old titles, mate. This title change seems to hit your view counts too. Ever since you changed the format your highest view count was 78k. Even though it was a really hot topic. If you had named the controversy as the main title, you would've hit 100k at the very least.
@@Unknown-jg4uqyeah, I agree. When I saw this format for the first time, I skipped them thinking it was just comebacks news.
PAY ATTENTION TO RAFAH !!!! 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
"Following a female employee home to confiscate their belongings unrelated to business"
So stalking and theft
What Bang Hippo did:
1. hires the best creative in the field
2. meticulously studies her process
3. steals her ideas and creates a dupe
4. succeeds
5. *smear campaign*
6. fires creative for no valid reason so they have full control of both groups
We I saw how the paparazzi treated Stray Kid's at the Met Gala. I didn't feel proud to be an American because of bs that was spewed out of their mouths. I know this is the first time for Stray Kids being in America but it's their first time at the Met Gala so they should've shown a little bit more respect if it was an American boy like say the vets Backstreet Boys they would've been more respectful which is sad.
I think you left out Lisa attending a public event with her boyfriend for the first time because it would be unnecessarily controversial because of the denying delulu fans.
Just like with everything else, I'll wait for them to officially confirm it themselves before we talk about it. Hope that makes sense!
Min Hee Jin is very sus and so is Hybe but she's more sus. I only believe BTS and want them to come back ASAP😢
HYBE IS SUNKED.
TORPED.
Is that why they're becoming an official conglomerate?
@@em5522 yes. Also hybe is DONE FOR
HYBE is or will be no more.
@@em5522 spoken like a typical faake fan.
Hybe is disgusting!!
Actually MHJ is more disgusting than Hybe itself..
You guys are so annoying instead of waiting for everything to be over you pick sides without knowing the whole situation hybe vs min hye jin how about stay neutral and wait for updates you dont know these people stop being a sheep
@@hyunhosmilkshake both are disgusting but hybe is evil so I don't know why people aren't blaming hybe as well
@@faithful9174 i trust hybe but not mhj..
nothing new but because of bts inetz want to make a hype over hybe too when it was always obvious that they are one of the worst companies ever.
I dont think Lisa should be considered kpop artist anymore. she is not korean, her song are not in korean and she doesnt work there anymore.
I mean, if she was only a solo artist, sure. But she IS still a part of Blackpink, therefore, still considered a K-pop idol.
@@calicokaels jackson wang is still part of got7 too, why is he not considered kpop artist anymore? I dont see this channel covering news about him or Amber anymore!
@@sabaparsaei9638 What recent news about Jackson or Amber (I'm assuming your referring to Amber Liu?) has been missed on this channel? I've seen both on this channel in the past - at the very least their music is included in the "comebacks". (Seriously haven't really heard any recent big news *anywhere* of either.)