GLM is internal Genelec system so if you use sub of another brand than you can use GLM for satellites, but the rest is up to you for configuration. Genelec subs are quite capable and internal dsp with eq and bass management is flawless. You won't hear problems with levels and crossover.
I feel late to the show. Just ordered pair of 8351B and genelec's sub 7350A. I operate in a very small room 11 x 10 so I'm hoping GLM/SAM will help my acoustics ... primarily Keyboardist but use A LOT of very different sounds/samples.
Great video guys. I have a question. My setup has 2x32" monitors next to each other. Will I still be able to place the speakers so they sound good, basically I worry that they are too wide.
Curious if the SAM (for small studio rooms even treated) can help with low end nulls. As compensating more bass would only create a larger null and less bass isn’t the answer. I have a 15db null in my listening position at 30hz and some at 40 and 50 etc would LOVE if it could somehow help with that!!!
The newest version of GLM can work with SAM monitors to boost nulled frequency dips which makes them a little more narrow, but doesn't lift them because it's due to cancellation. If you can, reposition them to get them to create peaks instead of nulls and it can take care of those. Don't be afraid to put it really close to walls if needed.
@@dougleydorite It boosts the frequencies on the edge of the null, which makes it more narrow. Boosting at the center frequency of the null does nothing since it cancels itself.
I have 8040a’s and a non-sam sub, but am going to upgrade to the One’s. Personally I value having more clarity 40hz upwards region that having that extra bit of sub 40hz. Plus buying a sub with sam is mega expensive. From what I’ve heard even the 8331 will give you fantastic bass response, that makes the 8341 not worth buying unless you sit quite far from your monitors. Problem with subs in general is always the room. You would probably need some active bass mufflers if you really want to be sure about bass response under 40hz. Cheaper and more reliable to use visual guides on what’s happening 40hz and under, or go play your tracks on a club system
Depends on the sub. I love having a sub (7271 dual 12"), and I have the 8260 which digs deeper than any of those shown here. GLM integrates subs very well and is worth it if you want simple effective calibration without having to guess and check and EQ yourself.
ATC and PMC can work if you are used to them, but they have frequency response irregularities, more diffraction, and no built in DSP correction. For mixing and mastering and listening I'd take Genelec hands down.
For most music, it's not really required, as even a club playing EDM will likely cut everything under 35hz or even higher. That being said, for a soundtrack where you want some felt more than heard sub bass, it would likely be useful to have a woofer as viewers are more likely to have one. Even considering that though, just listen on a pair of headphones. Many $80 headphones can play the 20-40hz range if you need to check low bass levels, and people who listen on even higher end headphones will really appreciate it, myself included.
I don't think they're sold in most places. I, for one, had never heard of them. Which model compares closest to the 8361 here, in price and performance?
Do you have to use the Genelec sub in order to utilize the Sam system or can I incorporate another brand sub, like Neumann or Yamaha?
GLM is internal Genelec system so if you use sub of another brand than you can use GLM for satellites, but the rest is up to you for configuration.
Genelec subs are quite capable and internal dsp with eq and bass management is flawless. You won't hear problems with levels and crossover.
I feel late to the show. Just ordered pair of 8351B and genelec's sub 7350A. I operate in a very small room 11 x 10 so I'm hoping GLM/SAM will help my acoustics ... primarily Keyboardist but use A LOT of very different sounds/samples.
Two 8 inches in those tooo big for small room
Can you turn off the green light? LEDs shining at me in a darkened room are distracting.
Yes, there's a DIP switch on the rear for that.
@@nico_guru_medidation_error Wow. I was just going to suggest a piece of electric tape :(
Great video guys. I have a question. My setup has 2x32" monitors next to each other. Will I still be able to place the speakers so they sound good, basically I worry that they are too wide.
theyre supposed to be 3ft from you. almost arms length
Curious if the SAM (for small studio rooms even treated) can help with low end nulls. As compensating more bass would only create a larger null and less bass isn’t the answer. I have a 15db null in my listening position at 30hz and some at 40 and 50 etc would LOVE if it could somehow help with that!!!
The newest version of GLM can work with SAM monitors to boost nulled frequency dips which makes them a little more narrow, but doesn't lift them because it's due to cancellation. If you can, reposition them to get them to create peaks instead of nulls and it can take care of those. Don't be afraid to put it really close to walls if needed.
@@stevenswall can you please rephrase that? What do you mean by it can boost them but not lift them?
@@dougleydorite It boosts the frequencies on the edge of the null, which makes it more narrow. Boosting at the center frequency of the null does nothing since it cancels itself.
@@stevenswall have you had any experience with sonar works to compare?
@@dougleydorite No. Just REW and a MiniDSP vs GLM.
i am planning to either add a sub to my Genelec 8030A or else upgrade to the "Ones" =... Need advice.
I have 8040a’s and a non-sam sub, but am going to upgrade to the One’s. Personally I value having more clarity 40hz upwards region that having that extra bit of sub 40hz. Plus buying a sub with sam is mega expensive. From what I’ve heard even the 8331 will give you fantastic bass response, that makes the 8341 not worth buying unless you sit quite far from your monitors. Problem with subs in general is always the room. You would probably need some active bass mufflers if you really want to be sure about bass response under 40hz. Cheaper and more reliable to use visual guides on what’s happening 40hz and under, or go play your tracks on a club system
Depends on the sub. I love having a sub (7271 dual 12"), and I have the 8260 which digs deeper than any of those shown here.
GLM integrates subs very well and is worth it if you want simple effective calibration without having to guess and check and EQ yourself.
atc vs pmc vs this?
ATC and PMC can work if you are used to them, but they have frequency response irregularities, more diffraction, and no built in DSP correction. For mixing and mastering and listening I'd take Genelec hands down.
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Do you need a sub or just a taste if you are mixing?
For most music, it's not really required, as even a club playing EDM will likely cut everything under 35hz or even higher. That being said, for a soundtrack where you want some felt more than heard sub bass, it would likely be useful to have a woofer as viewers are more likely to have one.
Even considering that though, just listen on a pair of headphones. Many $80 headphones can play the 20-40hz range if you need to check low bass levels, and people who listen on even higher end headphones will really appreciate it, myself included.
I suppose they aren't aware of ME Geithain monitors.
I don't think they're sold in most places. I, for one, had never heard of them. Which model compares closest to the 8361 here, in price and performance?