I don’t know for certain, but I would guess Larry and Steve got fired for something that happened OFF-air, in relation to this incident. Maybe they had a loud, profanity laced argument in front of other people in the press box, or went after each other physically and had to be separated/restrained. Again, I don’t know if either of those things happened, but what they said on the air wouldn’t constitute a fireable offense in my view, unless USAC had an issue with commentators showing anything other than the usual neutral, descriptive commentary. What Nuber and Chassey said was certainly opinionated, but both used a professional tone and didn’t get hostile or aggressive with each other.
@@jamesbowers5946: I was expecting fireworks. I won't speculate on what might have happened behind the scenes, but the on-air dialogue here was downright respectful.
@@jamesbowers5946 Considering how much emphasis Chassey placed in his apology at the end for editorializing versus calling the race as he objectively saw it, either USAC literally did take issue with the commentators straying from strict objectivity... or, like you said, something happened behind the scenes and they just told the public that they were fired for not being perfectly objective to cover it up.
@@KellieLeigh48he was making the pass and that wasn’t the groove too be in. His momentum pushed him up. Without a “chopper” view or chase view which they don’t have then will never know 💯
Vogler got what was coming to him the next year, after stuff like this and his Indy 500 bump day theatrics and probably numerous other incidents in his career.
Well you opened your pie hole again about Vogel and that ended your broadcasting career. He took his personal vendetta against Vogler onto the broadcast(s). Reminds of listening to Bobby Unser on the Indy 500 broadcast, unprofessional
All to preserve history. Nothing more. Nobody was harmed when all was said & done on this night. Just an interesting footnote in racing history. The best part that came out of it was Jeff Gordon’s car owner, Rollie Helmling, scored the Diet Pepsi sponsorship because of this crash. The next morning after this incident, Helmling (who owned a grocery store), still angry, moved all the Pepsi down off the shelf. Pepsi was an associate sponsor of Vogler at the time. A distributor came by and wondered why all the Pepsi was moved. Helmling told him exactly why. The distributor asked how they could make it up to him. Helmling said, “well, you could sponsor my team.” From that, a deal was struck. The first option was for Helmling to run Mountain Dew sponsorship on his car. Helmling refused because of the green superstition in racing. The second offer was for Diet Pepsi. Thus, the famed Diet Pepsi #4 was born. All created by this accident.
turned out for the best, i think, because of the Gary Lee and Larry Rice era that followed
I hope that this Gordon kid recovered from this setback and had a great career….he turned 18 the day after this race
Ah yes. The moment has surfaced.
go back a couple years, the race is on yt, where vogler dumped chassey. thats where this all started.
People have been looking for this for years!
...wait, this was enough to get them fired?
Seriously. That was a polite, genteel disagreement over proper racing etiquette.
Shocking to me that they were fired over this
Is this the "incident" that got both Nuber and Chassey fired from Thursday Night Thunder? Or was there a different on-air argument that they had?
I don’t know for certain, but I would guess Larry and Steve got fired for something that happened OFF-air, in relation to this incident.
Maybe they had a loud, profanity laced argument in front of other people in the press box, or went after each other physically and had to be separated/restrained.
Again, I don’t know if either of those things happened, but what they said on the air wouldn’t constitute a fireable offense in my view, unless USAC had an issue with commentators showing anything other than the usual neutral, descriptive commentary.
What Nuber and Chassey said was certainly opinionated, but both used a professional tone and didn’t get hostile or aggressive with each other.
@@jamesbowers5946: I was expecting fireworks. I won't speculate on what might have happened behind the scenes, but the on-air dialogue here was downright respectful.
@@jamesbowers5946 Considering how much emphasis Chassey placed in his apology at the end for editorializing versus calling the race as he objectively saw it, either USAC literally did take issue with the commentators straying from strict objectivity... or, like you said, something happened behind the scenes and they just told the public that they were fired for not being perfectly objective to cover it up.
Bullshit - Rich Vogler was Up on the Inside - Other driver got too close to try to push him back - Rich did his great racing!!!!
I stand with Steve.
Maybe Vogler didn't give him much room but Schilling definitely drifted up into him.
He didnt have anywhere to go
Yes he pushed up
@@KellieLeigh48he was making the pass and that wasn’t the groove too be in. His momentum pushed him up. Without a “chopper” view or chase view which they don’t have then will never know 💯
Vogler got what was coming to him the next year, after stuff like this and his Indy 500 bump day theatrics and probably numerous other incidents in his career.
Shilling drove up on Richy .... GET outta the way
Well you opened your pie hole again about Vogel and that ended your broadcasting career. He took his personal vendetta against Vogler onto the broadcast(s). Reminds of listening to Bobby Unser on the Indy 500 broadcast, unprofessional
Might have been but at least he didn't lie
Lot of years have passed, let sleeping dogs lie.
The world needs to take your advice there.
All to preserve history. Nothing more. Nobody was harmed when all was said & done on this night. Just an interesting footnote in racing history.
The best part that came out of it was Jeff Gordon’s car owner, Rollie Helmling, scored the Diet Pepsi sponsorship because of this crash.
The next morning after this incident, Helmling (who owned a grocery store), still angry, moved all the Pepsi down off the shelf. Pepsi was an associate sponsor of Vogler at the time.
A distributor came by and wondered why all the Pepsi was moved. Helmling told him exactly why. The distributor asked how they could make it up to him. Helmling said, “well, you could sponsor my team.”
From that, a deal was struck. The first option was for Helmling to run Mountain Dew sponsorship on his car. Helmling refused because of the green superstition in racing. The second offer was for Diet Pepsi. Thus, the famed Diet Pepsi #4 was born. All created by this accident.
this is for posterity
I remember all of that, the following year Vogler got 'bit' on the ass hard!
his ego finally wrote a check his ass couldnt cash.
Schilling dive bombed, Rich had the lead and his chosen line. Vogler in the right Schilling and Gordon wrong.
Dive bombed? He was up along side him the whole back straightaway. 😂