The IC7300 has audio response filters for both RX and TX that are adjustable. Can adjust bass and treble. I assume can do same on IC705. So can adjust to fit your hearing. I do use an external speaker with my IC7300. I do like having the spkr on the front like the IC705 does. That way can mount in box for protection and dont cover spkr when operating. This video is comparing audio quality only. Lots more to compare on these 2 rigs.
I have a 705 and I will sell it, first of all its wifi module quality is disastrous and many users struggle with packet loss problems. Now it's under warranty because it won't even connect to any WiFi anymore. I observed the sound even with my eyes closed and the 7300 is clearly better, the sibilance and sizzling of the HF band are suppressed in it, with the 705 it is difficult to remove it due to the minimum of controls and I don't enjoy listening to it anymore. In addition, today you can buy a 7300 for half the price of a 705, which does not have a tuner, does not have 100W, has fewer buttons and faulty wifi from the factory. Attractive size and UHF/VHF for some, I drive a portable and do not use VHF/UHF. So for the ridiculous price that a used 7300 has now, the 7300 is a clear choice. It's all about the antenna and the operator anyway, the differences are so small in these simulated tests that it doesn't say much.
Note that the SD card icon was flashing throughout the video, because the audio from all three radios was recorded digitally to memory cards. No speakers (facing in any orientation) or mics were used. Hope this helps to clear up the confusion.
To clarify, the 7300 isn't really what's normally understood as a 'shack in the box' radio. That generally implies something which combines HF and VHF/UHF operation in one unit - ironically, the 705 is nearer to that. QRO versions of a shack in the box would be rigs such as the Kenwood TS2000 and the Yaesu FT857, FT991(a) etc. Everyone and his dog bought a 7300 when they first came out, but it wasn't long before I noticed that many were quickly moving them on too, for some reason, The 705 is a great little radio but I'm not sure that a touch screen is the kind of interface I'd be wanting to manipulate on top of Helvellyn with the wind howling around my ears!
I've just bought a 705. i have a 7610 which is about as reliable as a lada. my other radio is a bullet proof 7300. so time will tell with 705. but i'am loving it so far.
I guess that the waterfall setting on both the IC-7300 and the IC-705 where not completely identical. If they are identical, the IC-705 is an improved and shows more detail. I noticed the audio differences, but is the audio directly fed to the camera or is it recorded via a microphone? As said before by others the speakers are not the same.
I have a ham friend who has had the IC-7300 for a while, so I forwarded the link to this video to him I think the current prices for the two transceivers are similar now at $1300.00, US.
Just a suggestion, in the case that you still have the 7300 and the 7100, there is only ONE comparison video on youtube (that I've found) and I'm pretty sure that lots of operators would like to saw them face to face on RX :) Since both radios are in production, some potentials buyers (like me!) might find it very useful Just saying ;)
I live in darwen i next month or to ill b getting my pal to set up my ss9900 and putting up my 18ft thunder pole haĺf wave im also going to start studying for my foundation So hopefully might catch up with you im disabled so my pal is helping me set it all up and another guy is setting up aerial i live at top of a hill 800ft above sea level Regards adrian
@@stephenjones9153 i think they will scrap foundation licence infact i think its a cert I want to pass before they scrap it as I left school with nothing no qualifications other than my driving license So passing uk amateur test would b the only thing i have But yes i think its scrapped it will bring thousANDS more into hobby
Please continue with more IC-705 tutorials. Optimizing the waterfall scope, SWR graphing capability, recommended changes from factory default settings, etc. Also D-Star, PSK-31 and RTTY operations. 73 G0NJN / N0KRO
What SSB filter width was used on the 7100? It sounds wider, hence more noise - but could equally be due to better DSP (so steeper roll-off on the side skirts) on the 705.
For my ears my 7300 as a high level of white noise that is quite fatiguing behind a good strength signal, the 705 in your video seems quite reduced in comparison, pleasantly surprised.
It's quite interesting to see the different S-meter readings on the IC-7300 and IC-705. I would have thought that the calibration of the S-meter would be more or less the same.
Well done video! The comparison between the 705 and 7100 was a nice bonus and a noticeable difference in audio and reception clarity. I have 7300 and 7100. May have to get a 705 to possibly replace the 7100. The displays are a huge difference as well between the two. 73!
I have both radios and have to say I prefer the sound of the 705 compared here. Both are fantastic radios, the scope is such a powerful feature, the 705 has to be the most exciting portable HF (and other bands) portable to date - the new list price is quite high @ £1,299 Jan 2021. Interesting to see if anyone reports any major bugs with it, or whether the price comes down much?
maybe the sound of the 7300 is a bit without discant sound, because the loudspeaker is on its top, and is hidden by the 705...or is the recording directly out of the rx ??
The Elecraft Kx3 from the videos I've seen and all the forums I've read seems to have a much better receiver and noise reduction than the 7300 and I expect the same with the 705. I got the PTFX-7300 panadapter for the 7300 and connected it to the Airspy HF+ and they audio is much better, I only listen now via the SDR console. So cool having a very large waterfall and noise reduction that works. I think if I were to splash that kind of cash I would get the KX3 even if it's a much older design without the bling. I don't really know though as I haven't actually tested the KX3 but I have the 7300 and it's a pretty noisy receiver compared to my FT-891 which has amazing audio via headphones and amazing DNR. The 705 does have cool features, USB audio for digital and GPS to keep the clock in Sync for FT8 and JS8 Call. It has bluetooth and wifi and D-Star but Fusion is way easier to use I think.
@@RingwayManchester Some folks seem to leave their thoughts w/o reading your replies to previous identical comments. Maybe you could add: "The audio you hear was taken from the SD card. No speakers were involved" to the description field to avoid answering the same thing for years to come 😉
It is very clear that the rx filter settings (DSP bandwidth) are different on these two radios, so the whole comparison makes no sense and this is 0% useful information - especially for someone who might be making his purchase decision from watching this video. The radios sound different because one radio has about 3 khz bandwidth from the settings and the other radio is around 2,4 kHz. But - it was a VERY good idea to make a comparison video about these two. I am sure they will sound identical with similar settings. Keep the videos coming!
nice video, thanks, it looks like some setting was different on the 7300 as the high frequency of the audio is like cut, this why everybody looking the reason at the top speaker covered, but you clarify more times - audio comes through AUX. Sir, what about this Audio equalizer setting th-cam.com/video/1-zQNz51itg/w-d-xo.html .. or any other pass band filter involved ? I was planning to buy 7300, but the audio if is like on the video make me feel not that confident and thinking about something else. So to folks as me, looking to buy, your clarification is quite needed. Thanks for your time
Kind of an Apples to Underwear comparison don't you think? You can go into the settings on the 7300 and change the bass and treble to sound like the 705...plus you have the 705 sitting on top of the 7300 speaker. Yeah next video. This was poorly done.
Stop using made up phonetic alphabets. It's childish, confusing, and there's literally no need for it. There's already an established alphabet. Use it. Everyone understands it.
Stop being a troll, it’s childish. The phonetic alphabet isn’t confusing, it might be to you, but for anyone with half a brain it’s definitely not. You actually took the time out of the festive period to post the single most rubbish comment on a video. What’s up? Are you a loner?
From what I heard, the IC-705 seems to have the best overall reception.
Just got mine today, totally agree, sounds great even through the supplied speaker mic..
The 7300 isn't 'a shack in a box' it's an HF, 6m and 4m transceiver. It doesn't offer 2m, 70 or 23cms. Nor D-Star for that matter.
That was mentioned in the 1st minute genius.
Speaker on the front is always more pleasing.
Both radios are total eye candy :-)
@Ray DeOperator All three would be the perfect ICOM trifecta
The IC7300 has audio response filters for both RX and TX that are adjustable. Can adjust bass and treble. I assume can do same on IC705. So can adjust to fit your hearing. I do use an external speaker with my IC7300. I do like having the spkr on the front like the IC705 does. That way can mount in box for protection and dont cover spkr when operating. This video is comparing audio quality only. Lots more to compare on these 2 rigs.
I have a 705 and I will sell it, first of all its wifi module quality is disastrous and many users struggle with packet loss problems. Now it's under warranty because it won't even connect to any WiFi anymore. I observed the sound even with my eyes closed and the 7300 is clearly better, the sibilance and sizzling of the HF band are suppressed in it, with the 705 it is difficult to remove it due to the minimum of controls and I don't enjoy listening to it anymore. In addition, today you can buy a 7300 for half the price of a 705, which does not have a tuner, does not have 100W, has fewer buttons and faulty wifi from the factory. Attractive size and UHF/VHF for some, I drive a portable and do not use VHF/UHF. So for the ridiculous price that a used 7300 has now, the 7300 is a clear choice. It's all about the antenna and the operator anyway, the differences are so small in these simulated tests that it doesn't say much.
I have both radios and I prefer reception on the 705. I think some of the NR algorithms have been updated on the 705 vs the 7300, just my perception.
6:16 yes, hear the difference. And it seems frequency passband ( may be cnhaged ) narrower on 7300 with consequent sound effect .
same thing looks to me, high freq is cut, or speaker of 7300 not facing the mic of the recorder
The 705 has a front facing speaker, compared with the other 2 which may affect the perceived sound?
Note that the SD card icon was flashing throughout the video, because the audio from all three radios was recorded digitally to memory cards. No speakers (facing in any orientation) or mics were used. Hope this helps to clear up the confusion.
To clarify, the 7300 isn't really what's normally understood as a 'shack in the box' radio. That generally implies something which combines HF and VHF/UHF operation in one unit - ironically, the 705 is nearer to that. QRO versions of a shack in the box would be rigs such as the Kenwood TS2000 and the Yaesu FT857, FT991(a) etc. Everyone and his dog bought a 7300 when they first came out, but it wasn't long before I noticed that many were quickly moving them on too, for some reason, The 705 is a great little radio but I'm not sure that a touch screen is the kind of interface I'd be wanting to manipulate on top of Helvellyn with the wind howling around my ears!
I've just bought a 705. i have a 7610 which is about as reliable as a lada. my other radio is a bullet proof 7300. so time will tell with 705. but i'am loving it so far.
I would quite happily have any of the two of them. They both have their merits.
I guess that the waterfall setting on both the IC-7300 and the IC-705 where not completely identical. If they are identical, the IC-705 is an improved and shows more detail. I noticed the audio differences, but is the audio directly fed to the camera or is it recorded via a microphone? As said before by others the speakers are not the same.
I have a ham friend who has had the
IC-7300 for a while, so I forwarded the
link to this video to him
I think the current prices for the two
transceivers are similar now at $1300.00,
US.
Well, it's night and day between the 705 and the 7100 :) Thanks for that comparison, it is interesting. 73's :)
Just a suggestion, in the case that you still have the 7300 and the 7100, there is only ONE comparison video on youtube (that I've found) and I'm pretty sure that lots of operators would like to saw them face to face on RX :) Since both radios are in production, some potentials buyers (like me!) might find it very useful Just saying ;)
When are Icom going to Combine the 2 radios for a total shack in the box with 100W output, It would be great to take mobile/portable.
Never hopefully. I like the functionality in separate boxes. No compromise there.
I live in darwen i next month or to ill b getting my pal to set up my ss9900 and putting up my 18ft thunder pole haĺf wave im also going to start studying for my foundation
So hopefully might catch up with you im disabled so my pal is helping me set it all up and another guy is setting up aerial i live at top of a hill 800ft above sea level
Regards adrian
Good luck getting your foundation licence. The more hams we can get on the bands the better.
@@stephenjones9153 i think they will scrap foundation licence infact i think its a cert
I want to pass before they scrap it as
I left school with nothing no qualifications other than my driving license
So passing uk amateur test would b the only thing i have
But yes i think its scrapped it will bring thousANDS more into hobby
Thanks Lewis!
I prefer, well, both of them.
But the IC-705 has a higher price tag in VK than the IC-7300.
Excellent comparison video!
Please continue with more IC-705 tutorials. Optimizing the waterfall scope, SWR graphing capability, recommended changes from factory default settings, etc. Also D-Star, PSK-31 and RTTY operations. 73 G0NJN / N0KRO
I'm not sure default settings are still where you need to start, hasnt there been a firmware update that will need to be done first?
What SSB filter width was used on the 7100? It sounds wider, hence more noise - but could equally be due to better DSP (so steeper roll-off on the side skirts) on the 705.
in Brazil the price of the IC705 is the price of a car
I am accepting a donation from this radio.
Hose much cost a car then $1300
@@elanpaim33 The comparison would be as if the value is $ 7000
@@elanpaim33 Believe
So buy it from somewhere else and have it shipped.
@@adrianobatedor the price of the ic 705 is around $1200 in uk £1300
So the 7300 can transmit and receive RTTY. Is there a way to plug in a computer keyboard to trsnsmit RTTY? How about same on 705?
Thank You Brilliant Work! Finally a real review by a real ham not by actors with videos full of ads, likes and usual nonsense.
For my ears my 7300 as a high level of white noise that is quite fatiguing behind a good strength signal, the 705 in your video seems quite reduced in comparison, pleasantly surprised.
can you show how the filter sound.
It's quite interesting to see the different S-meter readings on the IC-7300 and IC-705. I would have thought that the calibration of the S-meter would be more or less the same.
I preffered the IC-705 audio in those comparisons.
Thank you for the video
Lewis I think spellchecker has mucked up your link to radio world link in your description, its showing io. Instead of radio.
I preferred the audio from the 705 - guess it's down to personal preference.
Well done video! The comparison between the 705 and 7100 was a nice bonus and a noticeable difference in audio and reception clarity. I have 7300 and 7100. May have to get a 705 to possibly replace the 7100. The displays are a huge difference as well between the two. 73!
I will be purchasing this radio soon, but not sure 🤔 what antenna is best for it. Any advice Lewis? Thanks 🙏 Eamonn.
Hi mate, I was using a mag loop!
Thanks 🙏 Louis.
Nice to see the comparison against the IC-7100, but would like to see the IC-705 VHF & UHF capabilities.
I have both radios and have to say I prefer the sound of the 705 compared here. Both are fantastic radios, the scope is such a powerful feature, the 705 has to be the most exciting portable HF (and other bands) portable to date - the new list price is quite high @ £1,299 Jan 2021. Interesting to see if anyone reports any major bugs with it, or whether the price comes down much?
maybe the sound of the 7300 is a bit without discant sound, because the loudspeaker is on its top, and is hidden by the 705...or is the recording directly out of the rx ??
The Elecraft Kx3 from the videos I've seen and all the forums I've read seems to have a much better receiver and noise reduction than the 7300 and I expect the same with the 705.
I got the PTFX-7300 panadapter for the 7300 and connected it to the Airspy HF+ and they audio is much better, I only listen now via the SDR console. So cool having a very large waterfall and noise reduction that works.
I think if I were to splash that kind of cash I would get the KX3 even if it's a much older design without the bling. I don't really know though as I haven't actually tested the KX3 but I have the 7300 and it's a pretty noisy receiver compared to my FT-891 which has amazing audio via headphones and amazing DNR.
The 705 does have cool features, USB audio for digital and GPS to keep the clock in Sync for FT8 and JS8 Call. It has bluetooth and wifi and D-Star but Fusion is way easier to use I think.
I'd be tempted to sell my KX3 in favor of a 705, but the lack of a built in ATU in the 705 is the fly in the ointment.
Thank You very much! I am looking for Comparison between IC 705 and FT 991. Anyone knows a good Video?
The 705 would sound better, as it has front-facing speaker. The 7100 is rear facing and the 7300 is on the top (covered by the 705)
The audio was taken from the SD card and not the camera.
@@RingwayManchester Some folks seem to leave their thoughts w/o reading your replies to previous identical comments. Maybe you could add: "The audio you hear was taken from the SD card. No speakers were involved" to the description field to avoid answering the same thing for years to come 😉
Looks like NB and NR turned on for both radios - more meaningful compare for me with them all off.
Yep..NB and NR... then you toss is TH-cam audio compression and this is really a worthless waste of time.
Could You tell what the antenna is?
It is very clear that the rx filter settings (DSP bandwidth) are different on these two radios, so the whole comparison makes no sense and this is 0% useful information - especially for someone who might be making his purchase decision from watching this video. The radios sound different because one radio has about 3 khz bandwidth from the settings and the other radio is around 2,4 kHz. But - it was a VERY good idea to make a comparison video about these two. I am sure they will sound identical with similar settings. Keep the videos coming!
Another Loudspeaker comparison!
Please use external, equal loudspeaker, on each transceiver, otherwise you compare loudspeaker only.
Regards
Martin
At 7055 freq, this Ukrainian hooligan station provokes Russian-speaking radio amateurs!
Thanks for reviewing and comparing the 705 and 7300!
Is there difference in speaker size? I would’ve thought the 705 had a much smaller speaker, making it contain less bass tones.
Yes it's much smaller Phill
2:42 " Cold Zero... Ha-Ha " 😂
The 7300 has the speaker on the top and it’s being blocked by the 705.
All irrelevant because the audio samples are direct from the sd card
You unfairly compared the ic7100 with NO NR or NB with the ic705 with both NR and NB!
nice video, thanks, it looks like some setting was different on the 7300 as the high frequency of the audio is like cut, this why everybody looking the reason at the top speaker covered, but you clarify more times - audio comes through AUX. Sir, what about this Audio equalizer setting th-cam.com/video/1-zQNz51itg/w-d-xo.html .. or any other pass band filter involved ? I was planning to buy 7300, but the audio if is like on the video make me feel not that confident and thinking about something else. So to folks as me, looking to buy, your clarification is quite needed. Thanks for your time
Nice! Keep it up!
thanks for the comparison but having the 705 setting on top of the 7300's speaker is not a good check.
The audio is direct from both sd cards so it’s irrelevant
7300 speaker blocked by the 705 sitting on top of it !
It’s a good job the audios from the sd card then isn’t it!
I never rely on built in speakers. They suck .Radios are best compared using an external speaker...
Well these were recorded straight to SD
@@RingwayManchester great!
Kind of an Apples to Underwear comparison don't you think? You can go into the settings on the 7300 and change the bass and treble to sound like the 705...plus you have the 705 sitting on top of the 7300 speaker. Yeah next video. This was poorly done.
You’re right on the settings however the audio was direct from the sd card... I’ll wait for your better version!
7:07 "Russian propaganda" on 7055 - it would be better if you first checked the facts and thought, and then only published.
Stop using made up phonetic alphabets. It's childish, confusing, and there's literally no need for it. There's already an established alphabet. Use it. Everyone understands it.
Stop being a troll, it’s childish. The phonetic alphabet isn’t confusing, it might be to you, but for anyone with half a brain it’s definitely not. You actually took the time out of the festive period to post the single most rubbish comment on a video. What’s up? Are you a loner?