The Heinkel He 219 Uhu was not fully recognized by the German military during World War II
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- The Heinkel He 219 Uhu was not fully recognized by the German military during World War II
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The narrator's comment about Mosquito NFs "bitchslapping" He 219s is a little off base. The Mosquito NFs success have a lot more to do with the mission profiles than the relative performance of the aircraft. German night-fighters were tasked with hunting and destroying Bombers, so that's what they focused on doing. British night-fighters were tasked with protecting the bomber stream by hunting German night-fighters. If their roles had been reversed there's no reason to believe Mosquitos would have faired any better than the Uhus. In a WW2 night fighting scenario detection is everything and it is much easier to find your enemy when you can just hang out near the bomber stream you know they will be intercepting. Night fighters don't dog-fight one another so discussion of agility and climb performance is largely irrelevant whilst speed matters only in as far as it was required to affect the interception. In the vast majority of cases, the target - be it a bomber or a night fighter - simply wouldn't know they were being attacked until they were already being hit by cannon fire.
As an aside, I assume the stripped down high speed version of the He 219 you allude to is the A-6. Although it is true that none were built from scratch, A-2s could be converted into the A-6 configuration in the field. Meanwhile, the A-7 variant, which made up maybe about a third of total He 219 production, was even faster - at least on paper.
My favorite plan of WW2. TY for showcasing it.
This plane was light years ahead of it's time. The JU-388 was another highly advanced aircraft including a pressurized cockpit.
A captured JU-188 was flown to the United States during WWII to Wright Patterson in Dayton, Ohio for detailed evaluation and flight testing. This was the model with it's distinctive mosquito shaped glass cockpit which were incredibly unique for the era. It gave the pilot an almost 360 field of view outside and you could actually see the pilot working the pedals and flight controls from outside the aircraft as they sat in a seat with parts of the cabin floor below was open so the pilot could see down below and outside the aircraft. The US OV-10 Bronco used a huge bubble shaped canopy that bowed out on each side allowing both the Pilot and Weapons officer in the back seat (on planes that had a back seat officer) an incredible field of view all the way down to the ground from their seats simply by looking left or right and down. It's a shame the US didn't have the OV-10 during WWII because for a piston aircraft it was one bad ass machine. It could carry the most ordinance and variety of weapons on it's hard points than any aircraft in the armed forces during Vietnam which didn't sit well with the Air Force!
The UHU (Eagle Owl) Heinkel 219 was one of the most advanced night fighters ever created up to that point in history. The UHU was a technologically advanced combat aircraft. Especially with the pressurized cockpit which allowed heat and comfortable conditions while flying which the pilots, navigator/gunner's absolutely loved. After years of having to wear all sorts of heavy clothing and heated gear due to the extreme temperatures at altitude, now the pilots could literally fly in shorts and a t-shirt comfortably if they wanted to although they did not do that. Supposedly their were about 12 successful ejections by German Pilot's/Navigator/Gunner's flying in the UHU during the war and all personnel survived the ejections. The only thing close to this plane was the United States' P-61 Black Widow. The UHU was arguably the better plane due to that huge cannon that pointed upward allowing that UHU to just fly up under any plane (mostly bombers) and unleash one huge BURST upward using that cannon and the plane explodes immediately! There were even accounts where UHIU's crashed after firing their cannon, then the plane above breaking apart and coming downward right onto the UHU that had just fired upon them. Hauptman Manfred Meurer, a famous night fighter ACE crashed into an American made bomber in his UHU killing both crews including Meurer.
" The only thing close to this plane was the United States' P-61 Black Widow. The UHU was arguably the better plane" So! What of the DH Mosquito? It was streets ahead of both.
@@paulbantick8266 The UHU was without a doubt a much better plane overall. I addition to it's sophisticated RADAR arrays and ability, it had excellent firepower like the P-61. Where it far overshadowed the Black Widow was in its incredible speed for the era. The P-61's inherent weakness was it's speed which was slow compared to other aircraft of the era. The P-61 did have similar RADAR and devastating fire power when you opened up all those guns at once, and it was effective as a night fighter. The UHU was so advanced, the US forces were very keen to see and adapt it's capabilities into it's own aircraft. A brand new example was taken after the war after being obtained by the famous "Watson's Wizzers" who sought out the most advanced and unique German aircraft just after the surrender of German forces for the purposes of testing and evaluating those aircraft and adapting those technologies into future American combat aircraft. The UHU seized by the US Forces was transported to the United States for flight testing and also extensive detailed examination of the aircraft. The aircraft is now in the possession of the Smithsonian Institution after being donated in the late 50's and is said to be in very good to new condition on many of the planes components, even after nearly 80 years. The aircraft is currently in climate controlled storage awaiting a full restoration at some point in the future and then being put on display in the WW2 collection of the Air & Space Museum. The plane could be restored back to flight worthy status because it's in such good condition. Who knows how far the Smithsonian will take the restoration. It would be incredible to see one of these in flight again! No one has seen one of these fly in 80 years because so few of them survived the war. It is believed the plane in possession of the Smithsonian is the worlds best example. German Ace Hauptman Manfred Meurer met his fate in his UHU Eagle Owl when he collided with a Lancaster bomber he was attempting to shoot down. Both crews were killed in the collision.
@@joevanseeters2873 I'm referring to the dH Mosquito. Now! perhaps you could post the comparisons where that's concerned.
You posted this " Where it far overshadowed the Black Widow was in its incredible speed for the era."
Care to post said 'incredible speed' performance?
Care to post something pertaining airborne radar of WWII?
By-the-way The He.219 was seized by the British and (like many other captured German aircraft) and given the the USAF.
The smithsonian blurb on the He.219 is crap too
"It was the only piston-engined Luftwaffe night fighter which could meet the fast British De Havilland "Mosquito" on equal terms."
Which is of course, utter rubbish.
If you answer those requests I have made of you. I'll be only too glad to post information contrary to what you and the Smithsonian has to say.
@@paulbantick8266 Gotcha, yes the Mosquito was definitely a faster plane for sure. The UHU was much more sophisticated as far as the radar and night fighter specific capabilities but the Mosquito wasn't envisioned as a night fighter, although it did well in that, and other unique roles. UHU's took down Mosquito's and visa-versa so they were a formidable match for each other.
@@joevanseeters2873 What 'Gotcha' is that when you have already conceded your "Where it far overshadowed the Black Widow was in its incredible speed for the era" quote as being wrong.
Because the Mosquito wasn't built as a dedicated night-fighter, does that mean it was at a disadvantage?
What of the Mosquito's Radar? Care to show how its radar was inferior to the German's? You do know that the Mosquito was flying with a fully enclosed, nose mounted radar long before the Germans managed to discard their arial arrays?
You do know that it was the British invention of the Cavity Magnetron that enabled the great leap forward in airborne radar development?
How many Mosquitoes did the He.219 'take down'? I have the numbers, the dates and the identities of those Mosquitoes.
I also have the same type of info pertaining the He.219.
Do you know that for all the NF Mosquito's higher speeds of over 400 mph, the sweet speed for night-fighter on night-Fighter/fast bomber engagements was about 380 mph. But the other overarching factor was the 42,000 ft-plus, ceiling of the NF. Mosquito.
As for having a pressurised cabin. The Mosquito did too.
If you have Bateson, Noworra, Dressel & Grichl, Remp, Rys, or Murawski's tomes, then your information on the He.219 'UHU' is rather dated.
I think this is a beautiful aircraft. Looks like 500mph+. Infighting and underperforming engines certainly rendered it ineffective, though. Too bad for the Axis...and good for the Allies!
Yes, your comment is very correct.
One thing missing - schraeke musik ( guns firing upwards)
Imho „Schräge Musik 🎶“ is one of the most badass (and strangest) aviation inventions of WW2
This aircraft is a great looking machine. What hurt it most were the same issues most German WW2 aircraft had, namely, engines which had to make do with lower octane fuels. BTW, comparing a metal aircraft to a wooden one when talking about weight isn't really a fair comparison. If you really wanted to do that though maybe look at some of the final Ju-88 versions that were almost as fast and maneuverable as the Mosquito, despite being made of metal.
Yes it is a great plane. Your great understanding.
The fact that the wooden plane was so good, verses the aluminum plane just shows how much better the wooden plane design was.
An aluminum is the material of choice today verses wood because aluminum has a much better strength to weight ratio than wood. The fact that the British made such a good wood plane in the era of aluminum planes shows how much better the engineering was for the wooden plane over the nazi aluminum plane.
@dave8599 very misleading comment.
Both aircraft have very different mission profiles. This is like comparing apples with oranges.
Ta 154 and mosquito are a much better comparison
@@robinsonsstudios Ju-88s were used as night fighter and as pathfinders. They did the job very well.
@@robinsonsstudios😊😊
I thought the UHU had huge clear canopy for observation work
He 219 was designed as a multi-roll aircraft.
I think your description is completely accurate for this aircraft
Also looks like a preying mantis, to me.
A dangerous predatory mantis.
@@mysterioussuperplane Quite
@@mysterioussuperplane and reminds me of the looks of the warthog
@@mysterioussuperplane Eric Winke Brown was quite an amazing man and pilot
It looks a little like a snub nosed A-10 Warthog in front. Too bad. Great stuff, thanks!
At wars end 1945 at a airfield called Fliegerhorst Grove (Nato airfield Karup) there stod a whole squadron Heinkel 219 when the germans walked home to germany from Denmark , they were sadly enough scrapped
Superb visibility
Fantastic writing guys. The He219 is one of those planes that some people seem to love. I don't see the attraction myself. As night fighters go the Bf 110 has to be my favourite. Adapted from an able if slightly disappointing heavy day fighter, it went on to carve a unique niche in aviation history. 👍👍
The Ju-88 was the best German night fighter of ww2, particularly the later models.
I am partial to the P-61. Very cool, and the best part is it was one of the good guys planes, not the evil germans. It is hard to like anything that fought for germany evil as they were.
@@dave8599 You have a very good point there Dave. The Bf 110 was built for all the wrong reasons and the P61 was there to put an end to Hitler's evil Empire.
It does it for me.
compressed cabin not impress u
Nothing special out of two liquid cooled 44 litre engines. The only thing it offered was being a bit smaller than a Ju88.
Excellent video, thank you. One thing about the Germans in WW2 they did have some really cool equipment. I remember seeing a picture/drawing of an over wing passenger pod on a JU 87 Stuka, did it exist or was it a what if fantasy picture? Thanks again, all the best, 👍👍👍👊✌️🇬🇧🌍.
Thanks for a very great comment on this aircraft.
Yes the pods were developed but i don't believe they were very widely used as there were plenty of better qualified aircraft for hauling personnel around.
@@kl0wnkiller912 Thank you for your reply, yes the pods seemed rather unnecessary, 👍👊✌️🌍.
At about 8:50 there are first pictures of a Junkers 88 night fighter (more to follow) and at 9:58 there is a Messerschmitt 110 night fighter - if those where intentional, would be good to say it... Anyway interesting video, thanks!
When speaking german take hot potatoe out of mouth😂
UHU never the best without centrimetric radar
Excellent video, thank you.
Always I find it interesting how everyone but the US faithfully stuck with spinners on propellers for all their aircraft. I know the rapidity of maintenance is cited as the reason for absent spinners even when prototypes were designed with them, so did P-51 and P-40 mechanics grumble about having to regularly remove them? I doubt less so than an F-4U mechanic de-panelling a cowl for changing 36 spark plugs regularly. To the subject though the He 219, Ju-88, Do 217, FW-190 never flew minus their spinners even though the same argument could have been applied for their absence. How strange these aircraft would seem with their bluff wielding prop hubs bare to us now. I guess Europeans and Asians are just all puritans in general.
Thanks for your great understanding.
US inline liquid cooled fighters all used spinners, the radiators were unimpeded. The air cooled radials needed the maximum ram air input with closed cooling gills for minimising drag in the low density air at altitude. B-17s at extreme altitude operated on the very edge of their engine performance and had to juggle even minimal cooling gill drag against engine overheating either of which which would mean fatally dropping out of formation.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 Thank you, very good point. I've heard of a B-29 incident that was caused by cooling gills getting stuck wide open on an outer engine (asymmetric drag), necessitating the crew to abandon ship. All the aircraft I mentioned were LL bombers, fighters, or had assisted/more efficient cooling to begin with. Thanks for helping make the connection.
Two purpose-built night fighters, neither as good at it as the Mosquito. Props to them, but the flexibility and effectiveness of the Mosquito is astonishing. Note: while every other night fighter in WW2 was tasked at stopping bombers, the NF Mosquito's primary mission was hunting and killing enemy fighters. It hunted wolves, not sheep. And very, very well.
Radar Àntenna would have slowed UHU down by maybe 40kph. Nazis didnt get centrimetric radar until 1945 way too.late. surprisingly big heavy a/c
@@Eric-kn4yn An excellent point. If the Mosquito had been lumbered with "Stag's Antlers" like the German Night fighters, it too would have had it's performance seriously hampered.
Brits always have to drag the bloody Mosquito into every discussion of WW2 planes
@@Christoph-sd3zi As an American, I have no problem recognizing the Mosquito as the best plane of the war. It's pretty obvious.
@@Christoph-sd3zi A smack of envy eh? If it was US, then what?
A me 163 shot down a moschito
Over-expensive.. Milch expected FW Moskito to be produced instead
So this aircraft was sub par? yet started shooting down Mosquitoes like it was nothing.
Edit: The Germans not being able to produce higher octane fuels as did the Americans and British to produce higher manifold pressures along with turbo chargers set for a specific altitude is not the engines fault; it's was an unfortunate necessity that hampered the German fighters.
"So this aircraft was sub par? yet started shooting down Mosquitoes like it was nothing."...No it did not! It shot down all of 10 Mosquitoes, all in 1944. The Mosquito shot down 18 of the much rarer He.219. If you have information to the contrary, please post your sources. I'll be only too glad to post mine.
@@paulbantick8266 I don't give a rats ass what you got, I'm certain you read what you read. I got my information from a TH-cam video that talked about the fuel, manifold pressure and turbo charger settings, unfortunately, I don't remember the channel's name. People like you need to get out of the basement more instead of starting arguments, if you have other information, just so say so.
Aren't we lucky that the Nazi's were very inefficient when it came to choosing the correct aircraft or specification.
If the Nazis had won Europe wouldn't be crawling with 3rd World refugees like it now. Uncle Adolf warned Europe what would happen.
Reminds me of a praying mantis
Looks fast just standing still
Can the narrator not speak normally or has he spilled helium, childish presentation