2 For One ABS Special
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2016
- Come along in the shop as we look at two different vehicles both experiencing the same problem. First one is a Buick LeSabre with an ABS Code C1214. The second one is a Chrysler Town & Country with an ABS Code C2200. We also get a little bonus at the end playing with the Autel MS908
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Your videos help me understand car diagnostics. Thank you :-)
Another good video! Thanks for all you are showing and teaching us!
Great video Eric. seriously learned a few things and every day I look forward for your video's to come out.
Nice video, always learn something new with you Eric!
When my wife had her 97 Grand Cherokee, "intermittently," the ABS light would come on, I can't remember the code now, erase the code, it took time to come back. I remember testing the pump motor for excessive current draw, even posting it on iATN. I did replace the module, it seems like most 12 volt motors, the in-rush current was a little high, according to the scope, but the motor had no problems. I could only think the module couldn't handle the current, because the new module had no problems and years later when she got rid of the vehicle the ABS still worked! Go figure! Great 2 for 1 Video!
thank you for your blessings...
Love your videos Eric! I live in the rust belt too (MN), i love getting parts from the south or CA. Thanks for the tip here, im not great w abs modules so thank you.
New intro is spot on!
the best abs video on TH-cam
I had the whole valve assemble crap out....got a used one...and worked great......
Glad this one was easy.
Great show...love watching you work....
great video eric o thank you for sharing
South Main-you know what you are talking about-I learn a lot from you-Thank You
Just repiared a 2014 chry 200 with same code today and confid . fun stuff
I owe you some ice cream or something. I had a 2009 Routan (aka a rebadged Caravan) with C2200. Since no body rebuilds these modules and I had nothing to lose I took mine off and split it along the mold seam for the top. Inside all the board pin connections are press-fit! They don't even attempt to solder them anymore. I put some electronics flux and leaded solder on them and reinstalled it in the van figuring why the heck not. Well it worked, all the brake/abs/trac/esp lights are off and have been for a week. I took pictures if you want to see what the inside of the EBCM/ABM looks like :)
I see what you mean by the bolts being stuck. I freed mine up by putting my shortened T20 3/8" drive socket on them and giving them a good tap with a hammer. It seemed to jar them so they weren't stuck and I was able to unscrew them out. I didn't think that would work since I also live in the 'rust belt'.
Good old lead solder for the win!! 99% of the faults in these modules and the TIPMs are fractured solder joints due to the "lead free: solder,
I liked this one a lot as it reflects the way things really happen - Good one Eric - Missed seeing Mrs O though!
That dang dinger. I could barely hear the bearing over it.
congratulations on the 30k subscribers...looking forward to 40k and beyond!
That was some great diagnostics, Eric. I also saw the Autel flash the driving instructions before the countdown. I guess you need to be quick on that one.
Full on episode, Eric. Nice work
Good find and repair
always entertaining videos, Eric ...
Thumbs up, always. I enjoyed the double action there Eric. A cup of coffee and an SMA video in the morning just makes for a great start of my day.
+wyattoneable Hey Wyatt, glad it helps jump start your day!
Nice Job, loved all the ins and outs of the programing the Chrysler. 9:00pm to go home, the fun of owning your own business.
+vipervette03 Haha and people think all we do is collect checks and drive fancy cars when you are the owner :)
That Autel scantool is an impressive bit of equipment. Thanks for your comprehensive review of it at the end!
it had better be for $1099 - $2299 ON AMAZON PRIME. IN FACT, IT SHOULD HAND YOU A CUP OF COFFEE EVERY TIME YOU PICK IT UP
2 for 1. No coupons required. Sweet.
+ManicMechanic007 Freebie...
+South Main Auto Repair Zip ... zero ..nada!
South Main Auto Repair
Thanks for the vid Eric...when I was younger you could just drag your feet to stop the old VW bugs. Just stick your feet through the rusted floor board.
Great job Eric !
I like that scan tool, seems handy.
+David Goldberg It is :)
Eric, you are moving on up to the east side. Good job
Thanks Eric O
The OEM scanner is called the Witech (Software) it is used with the Micropod.very nice software, great to find communication issue since it is in real time Newer vehicules dont need to be drive to initialized ESP. Nice video Doctor O'
+Jonathan Lessard Thanks for the update :)
It iratates me that manufacturers charge so much for basic control modules, especially when they are prone to failure. Great video as usual scope on the rope sees all!
Another fine vid from SMA.
i have a 03 town and country and abs module went bad. plugged in used one about 4 yrs ago and been working great. no programming required
Yep they are a different animal all together
Great video.the power of light wand
I think it might be looking at an a utel for us,seems a handy tool for the toolbox.
SO MANY DINGERS!
Kinda makes me want to move next door and rebuild Module's, wiper control boards, and dash circuit boards for you...lol!
Another vreat vid.keep on rollin Eric.love your channel bro its the best
highlight of my day when an SMA video appears on my subscription feed.
Such a great channel, it was this channel and yourself that helped me doing my own brake pad and rotor change on my Kia. saved me several hunded ££ and i learnt something new. :)
+Graham Reid (Grizzle) Cool , glad to hear
+South Main Auto Repair Same here. Your Honda timing belt video saved me a lot of money... which I then spent on all the tools I've seen in your videos since. :P
brian0918 Lol that is all good, we all need more tools!
worked on a caravan today with the same problem haha but in my area dust is your enemy !! dam abs connector was killing me.
Nice video. It's amazing the Autel stayed in the 1 sec mode and didn't time out until you completed the test. Autel has some nice features. Late night but always satisfying when another car is finished.
+Hayward's Automotive Yeah I am sure if you work in a shop as your name implies you have had your share of late nights too! Heck I have actually slept there a few times...
+South Main Auto Repair Oh yea when I was in my 20's & 30's I would work from 5:30 til 11PM and then when I hit 40's 5:30 until 6-7PM and now 50's normally 5:30 until 5:30 and now I turn 60 this year and am semi-retired but I still have my life long customers I still work on their cars but on my schedule so I am trying to slow down and enjoy life. Between 25 yrs in the Air Force and still running my shop and drag racing & retired from military to working at Lockheed Martin doing Flight Operations & Delivery on the F-22 Raptor and my shop and finally retiring from Lockheed to just work on cars at my shop to now semi-retired at 60 so I do it when my loyal customers need their cars fixed but I love it. They don't want me to retire from cars especially my Snap-on guy and truthfully I want to work on them forever b/c the new technology keeps me interested and the more complicating the better I like it. If you are staying at your shop late and sleeping there every once in awhile it just means you enjoy what you are doing and your videos show it.
Hayward's Automotive It is refreshing to read this. Thank you for telling me about the passion you have for this rusty junk too haha. I would like to meet you some day sir.
+South Main Auto Repair It's definitely a passion and I know it is after I am bent over a hood or under a dash and feel it but I am extremely grateful to be healthy and do what I love to do! You and Ivan have that same passion! I have 5 brothers and 3 sisters in NY so when I come visit I will stop by and shake your hand.
Hayward's Automotive I would appreciate that sir! Seriously.
wow that was amazing . never seen that done before . I have à lot to learn about modern cars man . ha ha
That C1214 code is the same as happens on the Corvette ... It is caused by a bad relay in the EBCM Module and the relay can be replaced seperately by careful technicians. Of course GM wants to sell you a new module for over $1,000 (The relay itself would be about $10 so just find a shop that does module repairs near you)
Reminds me of my working ,life!
I had the same problem with a 01 chevy astro with only 50k, its the circuit board like you mentioned.Its a b*** getting under there and getting those torx bolts out Lol. I fixed it and flipped it :D Awesome video!
good video as usual great job
Eric yes it is a pain. but repairing four solider connections will fix the probelm. For the abs relay codes.
+Timothy Cooper That would never happen in a normal shop environment IMO. These units are filled with that jelly substance and even if you were able to get it off with out cutting the screws getting it open with out completely destroying it would be a miracle. Used southern units are very cheap. Just a much cheaper alternative IMO. Also we don't know it is a broken solder joint.
That's what we call a WOGO. watch one get one....lol... enjoyed them both. thank you
Great video
I used to have a 2007 Pontiac Grand Prix gt... miss the 3800 series 3 engine, only problem with that engine I had was a water pump. I miss it soo much😭😭
I saw that quick flash also, something about please drive vehicle and perform the specified task that was on the screen earlier, don't know why it didn't stay on there either, I have a maxisys also and love it, trying to get used to using Android though, damn windows got me all screwed up. xp bah humbug. you look like me out there driving at night when everyone else has gone home. oh the pleasures of ownership. great video thanks for posting.
that alert bell was torture!!!!!
Sweet video Eric
I got an 04 monte with a abs/traction light. I pulled that plug and saw that "wire/vent"
Thought I was the hero but Unfortunately No.
Thanks for letting me know about the vent 😌
You're awesome!
I had to replace a ABS Module on a 2004 Chevy Silverado. Was fun trying to get the bolts out, like you said on-top of the frame rail. Midwest truck (Nebraska), they like the salt here also, But Not like Minnesota my home state. The one I had, had the relay stuck on. It was draining the battery. Truck was a no start repair. charge the Battery and you could here the ABS motor running. Unplugged module and ordered a replacement from Rock-Auto. Customer was happy. Not a cheep repair though.
Where's an easier place to get wiring diagrams? I'm a mechanic, just not a car mechanic. I think that's the hardest part about working on cars is finding the wiring diagrams. And I'm gonna invest in Wearever Brake Cleaner.... you're single handedly keeping that company in business. Great vids, btw.
+Scott Berkey revbase.com/BBBMotor/Wd
Awesome.
+Jon Rushing yep bbb is great!
Thanks very much for sharing this!
Another good video from EricO! Now I am just eagerly awaiting for the next diagnostic mystery and hoping Eric does video tape it when it comes in through that door.
TOPIC SUGGESTION: "Preventive Maintenance" (i.e. stuff you can do with a new or well-running vehicle to ward off future problems). What to spray and where. Things to lube. Stuff to reinforce, replace or remove outright. Etc.
For example, I like to spray the exterior of all electrical connectors with dielectric grease, which not only helps prevent shorts and corrosion, but also blocks a lot of "gunk" buildup.
Chrysler mini vans.....an independent mechanics job security....haha.
+klc317 I love them :)
Good one
Awesome vid Eric. Up here if you need a yearly safety inspection sticker for a commercial plated vehicle an ABS money light on fails the inspection. I guess you have customers pass on the ABS repair on their passenger vehicles and just drive without it but I suspect it's not going to be optional in the future. That's going to be interesting :)
+STEVE ROB As it is right now you can pass with the ABS on
When cars were cars we used to use "threshold braking" I taught my lady the technique.. Ahah . Saved me over 1000 buck.
DEAR ERIC .! put the goddamn seatbelt on .!
There is a young man selling his dads tool box on you tube because his famous diesel mechanic father didn't have his self belt on because he was just driving a short distance he was thrown from sunroof in accident
Your videos never suck
Thanks James :)
If you can't lock up the brakes, what good is driving.
Oh.............Nice Puppy !!!
+Charles Miller Only the peeps on FB know about the puppy... shhhhh
informative, thumbs up from me
lol they due come in 3s like a clutch job
Once the ABS light start blinking it entered the programing/learning mode, it sees all inputs coming from the sensors and verify calibration you can disconnect the obd tool once you test drive it
Can you do a video on a GM where you use your scan tool to assist in the bleeding of the ABS system. I heard sometimes the abs module prevents proper bleeding of the system. ?? or was I given the incorrect information.
Way to go 3 Modules in one day!
Those Astro lights are quite handy aren't they? I see that the Verus isn't included on the Amazon store rundown of SMA stuff. Let me guess, Amazon doesn't sell Snap-On goodies.....duh. Good job on the fix. Thanks for the video.
Noticed on the initial ABS calibration it required turn wheel full left then full right then back full left then to center. You went back to center after full right. Could that have been an issue? Seemed to hang right after that...worked out ok anyway. Great video!
Good diagnosis, but there is another option, send the electronics to a place like BBA for repair or exchange. You could probably fix this for less than $100 cost for parts. It worked for my 2000 Suburban. Your right about the screws, replaced mine and anti-seized them.
anti seized? if you ever have to replace that agian I think its time for another car, not a pos gm or chrysler
Eric like your videos ,can you possibly add in your videos ; calls made to the customers ,that would be interesting of course your end only. this is better than the history ch.lol
Nah that would take up to much film time...
A vent tube on an electrical connector?? Whats next a glove box door module with a position sensor?? Will the data pid tell you the percentage the glove box is open? lol
Don't give them ideas
Working on an old ford for a relative. He brought it in and they told him $1000 for a new module. Had code C1095. The pump feed wire was in a tight spot (97 Lincoln continental). Wiggled the wire a bit with the scan tool activating the pump and found the problem, bit of dielectric grease fixed it. Now the scan tool can't pull datastream (says it should, but it don't, Its an IDS and a red brick) and there is false abs and TC (guess that means front wheels) at low speed. Guess I have to scope it out( he may be buying me one!). Tone rings on CV look ok, one has a small scratch in it.Doubt that could be the issue. They ohm out ok and seem to pass the millivolt AC test on a meter (but that is a slow update).
That's why I'm thankful my old 86 Ford pickup don't have any of that stuff. I bought it new it's got 81K original miles on it.
great video as always did you get a new camera super clear, nice work Eric
+Steve Svendsen No just rendering it a bit different
This video, even a bit old ,did show me what you have to go through on a daily basis.
I am still looking for someone who deals with rebuilding ABS control modules ,since my 04 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP COMP G has the usual symptoms which are all connected together as 1 system.
These GTP'S Competition Group cars were the test beds for the upcoming introduction of the 5.3 L V8 .
Personally I don't car to have a V8 when the 3800 is a much better proven engine.
But now it's September 5th ,2023 and my car is 20 years old.
Still an affordable, reliable transportation.
So if you know where I can find a OEM ABS control module with the assembly line code "RJ ", for the 04 -~05 GTP COMPETITION GROUP optioned Pontiac Grand Prix, I would be interested in this tip .
Man you're great at showing exactly step by step to what is needed to fix it right. 👍
Fasten your seat belt !!! If nothing else, to quiet that damn dinger! :)
+David Bradshaw It is a patients builder...
One of 3 repaired cool now how bad that wheel bearing
'There's your problem lady"....for the Love of all that's Holy either put the seatbelt on or shoot that warning bell dinger and put it out of its misery.
Look how fresh that JeeP hat is !!! As usual another great video & it's much appreciated !
People talk these W bodies up as reliable. Ill never understand why, I feel like I work on them more than anything else.
+a Reliable work.
The Lesabre is a G-body
What's going on in the other bay, up in the air, headlights on?
I believe all that buzzer was from e seat belt all along from beginning. Man where would ya be without some type of scan tool these days. Old school mechanics would be lost wi just their wrenches. New schoo tech have all the fun with their tech toys
Love riding along, but geez, buckle a belt already!
Shoot... That Autel is awesome. If it weren't so expensive, I'd buy one... But it probably would do much more than this at home DIYer can do.
its not a vent its a chimney! LOL
do you need the programming module (J2534) for the Autel? Or does it work on secondary modules without. thanks
Omg that Wheel Bearing is Spanked Sounds like a train following you Eric O @32:16 @SouthMainAutoRepairLLC
Great job. I'd like to know some of these prices
Just got the same code of death in my 08 jeep wrangler (c2200). Unfortunately I work for Chevy so I can't program at my work so the new ones have to be flashed no plug and play ?
great video Eric gotta love Chrysler electronics. off topic do u prefer the muscle grease over fluid film on the wheel hubs under the rotors and if you use fluid film dose it stink when it gets hot trying to find something quicker than smearing the purple grease with my finger
+Mike Eustice For under the rotor I will admit, muscle grease does hold up better
8:30 in the evening ..??
this beats working on HD trucks, Erick ..??
Nice looking 60 fps!
I noticed you didn't do the steering wheel turn procedure exactly as the AUTEL said to do it. That may be why you didn't get prompted to drive it. It said full left, full right, then FULL LEFT again, then center. You did left, right, then center.
+Sam G Ohhhhh... I didn't even notice... You are likely right because when I pulled out of town I turned left... hmmm Now I wanna know haha
bsa in Massachusetts rebuilds them for a really reasonable price. then you don't have to mess with any possible coding
Just wondering why sending the bad module out for rebuilding isn't one of your options? I've done exactly that in the past and found it to be very satisfactory and a decent cost option.
Can you please give a little more detail on how you disconnected and reconnected the wiring harness on the Dodge ABS module? My 2008 town and country gives the C2200 code for a month or so and then goes away, and then comes back a year later! Thanks
those CAB /ABS module connectors are such a pain. I would love for someone to make a video on the easiest way to disconnect them. Great video btw. :)