It was great! I was curious as I had just purchased almost a complete 800watt Renogy solar system for my rv that was recommended that I just start with a 3000w sine inverter 🤔 I’m really thinking that I should have purchased a 3000w + inverter / charger? I’m very new to this solar equipment and installations. You have any recommendations with Renogy installers within the south Okanagan / Vancouver etc area? Thanks Harold.
Purchased 2 of these to run in series (24v tiny off-grid house in the tropics of far north Queensland Australia) 2 months ago to replace 12 x 6v 105ah Trojan flooded lead acid batteries 24v (4s3p) system which was 4yrs old, so far ... the difference is something I never expected, the lead acids settled at 25.2v at best when new and the last 2 yrs 25v and dropped to close to 24.4 and lately they settled at 25v and dropped to 24.4 or lower (24.4v is the lowest flooded should be drawn down to) with my low power consumption 12/24v DC fridge "turned off"! at night and careful power usage, these lithiums settle at 26.4 and before the sun shines on the panels in morning they are at 26.1 most of the time, with the DC fridge running 24/7 and no attempt to save power, with a rated 5000 cycles when drawn down much more than it seems I ever will draw these down, looks like I'm set for many years to come, plus I won't need to check battery fluid levels weekly with flooded lead acid or clean the terminals regularly as you do with all lead acid.
I have got 4 of the 100AH core batteries, They have all been great so far. Went for the core because dont need internal heating where i live. (Australia) and felt the BT would just be annoying when you have multiple batteries. I am using that same renogy battery monitor as you. And i actually opted for 4 of the 100AH over 2 of the 200AH becuse of the size. 2 100AH end on end is about the same size as that canbat one you have. I realize renogy was aiming to fit in the same footprint as the old school 250AH lead acid AGM batteries. But they could easily of fit 300AH in that same case.
Hi also from Australia and have just purchased 4 of these batteries to go with a victron easy solar GX II. how are they performing in series in a 48v setup. i picked these instead of the 24v units as i figured in the future if one dies its easier to reuse 12v batteries or onsell them, im running 2 kings 200ah units in parallel in my caravan which are also performing well but the renogy has 5000cycles v kings 2000 and they are for my home system that used to run lead acid.
Same, bought 2, live off-grid in Aus, thing that I'm finding annoying with Renogy is their lack of information, my older Epever charge controllers don't have a native lithium setting, although these are claimed to be "Drop In" to an existing lead acid setup, I don't trust that as lithium don't require or like certain charging cycles that lead acid require, apparently no BMS will adapt what's being supplied ... why can't we find the complete recommended charging parameters so I can manually set my system for these batteries?
Hi, thanks for this review and look inside the box! I recently bought this battery. I’ve a question concerning the use in colder environments: As I understood the BMS protect the battery from charging when it’s below 0 degrees C. You mention that and it’s stated in the manual. But you also mention, a bit later in the video, that users must avoid charging the battery in that condition. Apart from the fact that I don’t know how to protect (physically disconnect all charging, PV and DC-DC?), I assume the BMS take care of this until temperature has raised. Am I right or at risk of damaging the battery when relying on that feature?
You can rely on that feature but I probably wouldn’t. The damage isn’t worth the risk. Many chargers have thermostats that will also stop charging when the temperature drops below 0. If this is common occurrence then i would recommend a heated battery
I am so confused whether to buy this or the original 200ah with Bluetooth’ it seems this is much better and using a battery monitor you still get all relèvent info on a screen’ al I missing something?
How is that Renogy is offering this battery at 1/2 the cost of just about everyone else? A 200Ah battery for (about) $700 (US) seems like a too good to be true price. I currently have 4 100Ah Battle Born batteries that are about 5 years old. I could get three of these (for a total of 600Ah@12v) for less than the cost of one new Battle Born GC3 (270Ah@12v). Am I missing something?
Can you put these batteries on their side to stack them? I just bought 4, they have not arrived yet...But I want to stack them two in front and two in the back in my battery compartment. One on top of the other on their side. What do you think? Thanks....!
Do you think I can run this newer Renogy battery in parallel with two of the older 200AH batteries? I had a older Renogy 200AH battery go bad under warranty and I don't think they will have any replacements.
small question: why do you say thay you can charge up 100A and discharge up top 200A? This doesn't have anything to do with the Ah total capacity right?
Nice video, thanks! I'm considering buying one these core batteries. Do you know if you can get one of these to talk to the M1 monitoring screen? Or would I just need to go with the same shunt/screen that you are using?
@@madetoexplore Ah yes! I just looked into that. It seems the smart shunt is currently not compatible with the M1 screen, but they are due to make it compatible via a software update around Feb/March. Thanks again.👍
I have this battery, and charge it with the victron mppt 100/30 charger. Whenever im camping in the wild for 7 till 10 days, the battery voltage drops from 12.8 volt till 11.9 overnight. What does this mean? And what voltages doni need to charge the battery. Thanks for the video!
Mine drops to roughly same voltage temperature about 9 in Ireland but it's running a 85L fridge/freezer directly to battery...I am right by setting my victron controller to lithium mode plus i been reading up and its saying the battery shouldn't go into to absorb or float..and last question again reading that 3 volts is when battery flat??.
See the owner's manual for the correlation between battery voltage and battery capacity percentage. The voltage drop is not linear from 100% to 0%. 12.8v is like 15% of battery capacity left and the BMS probably cuts it off way before it reaches 0% in order to protect the battery.
how do you decide which battery brand to use. there are a lot of companies who offer similar power capabilities at different prices. (Dakotah/BattleBorn/Victron, etc . . . )
I almost always go for the best value. Compared to the ones you listed I would say mostly price. Renogy is much more affordable and I have yet to find any issues with their batteries.
The core is a simple model that was designed to be installed in series for higher voltage systems where the pro is a most durable model with more features including self heating and Bluetooth
Im having trouble getting the msds sheet for the 100ah core series version from Renogy. Is there anyway u could find it for me? I was sent the wrong battery (needed the pro version for campatability) and need to send the core series back. Model # RBT12100LFP-G1
If you’re sending the core battery back, why do you need the MSDS she set for it? I would do the online chat with Renogy. Typically they’re pretty quick to reply
I'm in the process of choosing parts in order to build a solar system on my Van, how would one know what's the charge status of this battery if it doesn't have a Bluetooth module? And thak you for the informative video!
I have just brought 2 of these waiting for them to arrive...my old 12v batteries which i been running 5 days aweek for 1.5yrs (heavy duty car) using victron 3x215watt panels, and this is the answer your looking for cause i was in the same boat...a 50amp victron charge controller has Bluetooth so i can check my battery voltage and how much watts from panels...Hope that helps.
I asked Renogy this question and they said no. They only recommend pairing the same make/model. This is because the BMS will mostly likely have different settings along with a few other reasons
@@madetoexplore Thanks for the reply! I have just cancelled my order with renogy. What battery do you recommend? Looking for something around the 400-600ah range with bluetooth monitoring.
I don't understand all the hype about 'charge cycles'. If these are connected to solar and always getting juice, there shouldn't be a 'charge cycle' because they have a continuous charge. I must be missing something.
I couldn't believe the dimensions of the width on this when I heard it last week. Supposedly 9" wide. I won't be buying these cause it won't fit in my battery compartment. Apparently the 100ah cores are smaller in width. For now, I guess I'll keep renogy my 4x100 smart lithium non heated pouch cell batteries.
I bought two of their previous BT 200Ah LIFEPO4 batteries 16 months ago. Now want to increase my battery bank by buying two more. Not only have they discontinued this battery, but don't advise mixing their new version with the old. So basically I'm F$cked. Spent $2k with this company fully planning to add more at this later date(16 months). Now they tell me I have to start over. With 4 matching batteries for twice the cost. BE CAREFUL buying from any company that will just jettison previous customers so easily.
That’s unfortunate! I’m sure you could probably sell the two you have and then upgrade to a model with a longer cycle life. Have you thought about getting 2 of the 400ah BT heated batteries?
As far as the charger/inverter mounting goes ... Renogy only says to not mount the inverter vertically on a vertical surface because they're worried about the fan opening. Mounting it horizontally, like you've done, on a vertical surface is fine (Pg 9 of the manual)
@@madetoexplore the unit's fan exhaust hot air out the end of the unit (where the electrical connections are, and also the opposite end). I'm assuming renogy is worried that if the unit is mounted vertically on a vertical wall (with the exhaust vent on top) it would more easily allow liquid/etc to enter the unit. Just my guess tho.
It all depends on the purpose. If you use it in a camper and it's that cold where the battery needs heating, you most likely have a heater on in order to heat the living space. It's more economical to simply route some split piping from the heater into your battery storage and heat it in that manner rather than wasting more electricity for double means of heating.
What I'm finding is that these lithium batteries charge up to full and quickly drop to 13.5 all by themselves and not plugged to anything. For a 24v 200ah battery we're talking 25+ hours charge time with nothing turned on or time doubles to charge. Way to many issues with these type batteries. You could be hauling a bunch of expensive junk to the dump if you make one tiny mistake. Let the buyer beware. And it's all coming out of China where everything is made on the cheap!!😢
I wouldn’t blame China, lots of great products are manufactured there. I don’t understanding what your complaints are exactly? The fact that lithium batteries drop voltage quickly? I’ve never experienced that
It's normal for lithium batteries to show 14.6v while fully charged and connected to charger, and then they drop in minutes to 13.6 or so when disconnected from charger. 13.6v is a fully charged battery, 13.5v is 99% charge. See the owner's manual.
Thank you guys so much for watching! What do you think of the Renogy CORE Battery?
It was great! I was curious as I had just purchased almost a complete 800watt Renogy solar system for my rv that was recommended that I just start with a 3000w sine inverter 🤔 I’m really thinking
that I should have purchased a 3000w + inverter / charger? I’m very new to this solar equipment and installations. You have any recommendations with Renogy installers within the south Okanagan / Vancouver etc area? Thanks Harold.
@@halroberts4933 unfortunately I don’t but I’m sure some local van builders would be happy to help!
Purchased 2 of these to run in series (24v tiny off-grid house in the tropics of far north Queensland Australia) 2 months ago to replace 12 x 6v 105ah Trojan flooded lead acid batteries 24v (4s3p) system which was 4yrs old, so far ... the difference is something I never expected, the lead acids settled at 25.2v at best when new and the last 2 yrs 25v and dropped to close to 24.4 and lately they settled at 25v and dropped to 24.4 or lower (24.4v is the lowest flooded should be drawn down to) with my low power consumption 12/24v DC fridge "turned off"! at night and careful power usage, these lithiums settle at 26.4 and before the sun shines on the panels in morning they are at 26.1 most of the time, with the DC fridge running 24/7 and no attempt to save power, with a rated 5000 cycles when drawn down much more than it seems I ever will draw these down, looks like I'm set for many years to come, plus I won't need to check battery fluid levels weekly with flooded lead acid or clean the terminals regularly as you do with all lead acid.
Sounds like a perfect setup! 👏
I have got 4 of the 100AH core batteries, They have all been great so far. Went for the core because dont need internal heating where i live. (Australia) and felt the BT would just be annoying when you have multiple batteries. I am using that same renogy battery monitor as you.
And i actually opted for 4 of the 100AH over 2 of the 200AH becuse of the size. 2 100AH end on end is about the same size as that canbat one you have. I realize renogy was aiming to fit in the same footprint as the old school 250AH lead acid AGM batteries. But they could easily of fit 300AH in that same case.
Nice! That makes sense. These batteries are perfect for you 👍
Hi also from Australia and have just purchased 4 of these batteries to go with a victron easy solar GX II. how are they performing in series in a 48v setup. i picked these instead of the 24v units as i figured in the future if one dies its easier to reuse 12v batteries or onsell them, im running 2 kings 200ah units in parallel in my caravan which are also performing well but the renogy has 5000cycles v kings 2000 and they are for my home system that used to run lead acid.
Same, bought 2, live off-grid in Aus, thing that I'm finding annoying with Renogy is their lack of information, my older Epever charge controllers don't have a native lithium setting, although these are claimed to be "Drop In" to an existing lead acid setup, I don't trust that as lithium don't require or like certain charging cycles that lead acid require, apparently no BMS will adapt what's being supplied ... why can't we find the complete recommended charging parameters so I can manually set my system for these batteries?
Hi, thanks for this review and look inside the box! I recently bought this battery. I’ve a question concerning the use in colder environments: As I understood the BMS protect the battery from charging when it’s below 0 degrees C. You mention that and it’s stated in the manual. But you also mention, a bit later in the video, that users must avoid charging the battery in that condition. Apart from the fact that I don’t know how to protect (physically disconnect all charging, PV and DC-DC?), I assume the BMS take care of this until temperature has raised. Am I right or at risk of damaging the battery when relying on that feature?
You can rely on that feature but I probably wouldn’t. The damage isn’t worth the risk. Many chargers have thermostats that will also stop charging when the temperature drops below 0. If this is common occurrence then i would recommend a heated battery
I am so confused whether to buy this or the original 200ah with Bluetooth’ it seems this is much better and using a battery monitor you still get all relèvent info on a screen’ al I missing something?
Definitely buy this one. The BT one is only rated for 2000 cycles. This battery will last much longer!
Is there any disadvantage to using these batteries with other brands' inverters chargers? I don't like very much Renogy's inverter specs.
No, many people use them with Victron or other brands. I’ve tested a few other brands and never had an issue
How is that Renogy is offering this battery at 1/2 the cost of just about everyone else? A 200Ah battery for (about) $700 (US) seems like a too good to be true price.
I currently have 4 100Ah Battle Born batteries that are about 5 years old. I could get three of these (for a total of 600Ah@12v) for less than the cost of one new Battle Born GC3 (270Ah@12v). Am I missing something?
Battleborn has much better customer service but other than that…. Probably not. These are the perks of buying a product that’s manufactured in China
Can you put these batteries on their side to stack them? I just bought 4, they have not arrived yet...But I want to stack them two in front and two in the back in my battery compartment. One on top of the other on their side. What do you think? Thanks....!
I don’t think they would stack very nicely! They also aren’t really designed to stack so I would suggest building a small support frame
@@madetoexplore Thank you! I will...
Thank you! Does it have a passive or active balancer inside and how high is the balancing current ?
The BMS does actively balance the cells
@madetoexplore how many amps is the balancing current?
Do you think I can run this newer Renogy battery in parallel with two of the older 200AH batteries? I had a older Renogy 200AH battery go bad under warranty and I don't think they will have any replacements.
Unfortunately not, this is the only Renogy model line up that allows for parallel connections
small question: why do you say thay you can charge up 100A and discharge up top 200A? This doesn't have anything to do with the Ah total capacity right?
No it doesn’t have to do with the capacity but it’s important to know how fast you can recharge the battery and what you can power using that battery.
@@madetoexplore thanks!
Nice video, thanks!
I'm considering buying one these core batteries.
Do you know if you can get one of these to talk to the M1 monitoring screen?
Or would I just need to go with the same shunt/screen that you are using?
These don’t have Bluetooth or a communication port unfortunately. I’d recommend getting Renogy’s new smart shunt!
@@madetoexplore Ah yes! I just looked into that. It seems the smart shunt is currently not compatible with the M1 screen, but they are due to make it compatible via a software update around Feb/March. Thanks again.👍
I have this battery, and charge it with the victron mppt 100/30 charger. Whenever im camping in the wild for 7 till 10 days, the battery voltage drops from 12.8 volt till 11.9 overnight.
What does this mean? And what voltages doni need to charge the battery. Thanks for the video!
Could be related to temperature. How cold is it?
Mine drops to roughly same voltage temperature about 9 in Ireland but it's running a 85L fridge/freezer directly to battery...I am right by setting my victron controller to lithium mode plus i been reading up and its saying the battery shouldn't go into to absorb or float..and last question again reading that 3 volts is when battery flat??.
See the owner's manual for the correlation between battery voltage and battery capacity percentage.
The voltage drop is not linear from 100% to 0%. 12.8v is like 15% of battery capacity left and the BMS probably cuts it off way before it reaches 0% in order to protect the battery.
Thanks good to know.
how do you decide which battery brand to use. there are a lot of companies who offer similar power capabilities at different prices. (Dakotah/BattleBorn/Victron, etc . . . )
I almost always go for the best value. Compared to the ones you listed I would say mostly price. Renogy is much more affordable and I have yet to find any issues with their batteries.
what is the difference between the core series and the pro series?
The core is a simple model that was designed to be installed in series for higher voltage systems where the pro is a most durable model with more features including self heating and Bluetooth
@@madetoexplore so the pro would be a better choice for a travel trailer?
it will be simple system with alternator charging and shore power charging
@@madetoexplore and thanks for the answer, so many utubers don't bother answering questions!
@@stevem268 yeah the pro is a much better option for a 12v system in my opinion
@@stevem268 no problem! I try my best haha
Im having trouble getting the msds sheet for the 100ah core series version from Renogy. Is there anyway u could find it for me? I was sent the wrong battery (needed the pro version for campatability) and need to send the core series back. Model # RBT12100LFP-G1
If you’re sending the core battery back, why do you need the MSDS she set for it? I would do the online chat with Renogy. Typically they’re pretty quick to reply
I'm in the process of choosing parts in order to build a solar system on my Van, how would one know what's the charge status of this battery if it doesn't have a Bluetooth module?
And thak you for the informative video!
I have just brought 2 of these waiting for them to arrive...my old 12v batteries which i been running 5 days aweek for 1.5yrs (heavy duty car) using victron 3x215watt panels, and this is the answer your looking for cause i was in the same boat...a 50amp victron charge controller has Bluetooth so i can check my battery voltage and how much watts from panels...Hope that helps.
With a SHUNT.
Can you pair this battery with the 12V 200Ah Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery w/ Bluetooth?
I asked Renogy this question and they said no. They only recommend pairing the same make/model. This is because the BMS will mostly likely have different settings along with a few other reasons
@@madetoexplore Thanks for the reply! I have just cancelled my order with renogy. What battery do you recommend? Looking for something around the 400-600ah range with bluetooth monitoring.
Yes. 👍🔋⚡💡
In about the same size of this battery box, i can fit 600ah diy battery. 8-) When size matter.
That’s impressive!
サイズ無理に小さくてしも車のバッテリーEVは放熱考えられてるけどソーラーシステムだと放熱処理できないからでしょかなり熱くなりそう
It's the same case as the 300Ah
Good to know! I guess Renogy is saving a few bucks on the plastic mold
I don't understand all the hype about 'charge cycles'. If these are connected to solar and always getting juice, there shouldn't be a 'charge cycle' because they have a continuous charge. I must be missing something.
Unfortunately all types of battery cells don’t last forever. I’d recommend doing some research on why
I couldn't believe the dimensions of the width on this when I heard it last week. Supposedly 9" wide. I won't be buying these cause it won't fit in my battery compartment. Apparently the 100ah cores are smaller in width. For now, I guess I'll keep renogy my 4x100 smart lithium non heated pouch cell batteries.
That’s fair! One of the reasons I’m not a fan of this model either 👍
I bought two of their previous BT 200Ah LIFEPO4 batteries 16 months ago. Now want to increase my battery bank by buying two more. Not only have they discontinued this battery, but don't advise mixing their new version with the old. So basically I'm F$cked. Spent $2k with this company fully planning to add more at this later date(16 months). Now they tell me I have to start over. With 4 matching batteries for twice the cost. BE CAREFUL buying from any company that will just jettison previous customers so easily.
That’s unfortunate! I’m sure you could probably sell the two you have and then upgrade to a model with a longer cycle life. Have you thought about getting 2 of the 400ah BT heated batteries?
Hi Karen
As far as the charger/inverter mounting goes ... Renogy only says to not mount the inverter vertically on a vertical surface because they're worried about the fan opening. Mounting it horizontally, like you've done, on a vertical surface is fine (Pg 9 of the manual)
Thanks for this. I think they updated their manual again. What do you mean by “fan opening”?
@@madetoexplore the unit's fan exhaust hot air out the end of the unit (where the electrical connections are, and also the opposite end). I'm assuming renogy is worried that if the unit is mounted vertically on a vertical wall (with the exhaust vent on top) it would more easily allow liquid/etc to enter the unit. Just my guess tho.
@@TheLegendizCody interesting. I think some people have had trouble with the fan motor wearing out when it is mounted vertically
No self heating option is a huge fail in my mind
I agree! Would have been a great option to offer
@madetoexplore it's also a bit of a downgrade lacking Bluetooth like you mentioned as well as no communication ports
It all depends on the purpose. If you use it in a camper and it's that cold where the battery needs heating, you most likely have a heater on in order to heat the living space. It's more economical to simply route some split piping from the heater into your battery storage and heat it in that manner rather than wasting more electricity for double means of heating.
There is a heating option now
👍
What I'm finding is that these lithium batteries charge up to full and quickly drop to 13.5 all by themselves and not plugged to anything. For a 24v 200ah battery we're talking 25+ hours charge time with nothing turned on or time doubles to charge. Way to many issues with these type batteries. You could be hauling a bunch of expensive junk to the dump if you make one tiny mistake. Let the buyer beware. And it's all coming out of China where everything is made on the cheap!!😢
I wouldn’t blame China, lots of great products are manufactured there. I don’t understanding what your complaints are exactly? The fact that lithium batteries drop voltage quickly? I’ve never experienced that
It's normal for lithium batteries to show 14.6v while fully charged and connected to charger, and then they drop in minutes to 13.6 or so when disconnected from charger.
13.6v is a fully charged battery, 13.5v is 99% charge. See the owner's manual.
U are confused.