What changed in Persona 4 Ultimax 2.0

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    Persona 4 Arena Ultimax 2.0 (what a mouthful) is upon us! A lot of you have asked what are the differences between the previous version (1.1) and the current one, so I put together a quick vid to fill you in.
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  • @foxiki387
    @foxiki387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Individual changes from previous versions for each character would be something I’d be personally interested in watching

    • @Demi-kid
      @Demi-kid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. Playing Yukari is a cracked out version and I love it.

  • @tronixchl2004
    @tronixchl2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    As a newcomer this guides are LIFELINES to learn online also does anybody having problems connecting in online matches

    • @wave81210
      @wave81210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Online is garbage right now bro😩

    • @DJDizzy8
      @DJDizzy8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Rollback isn't coming until summer 2022. So online is delay based trash until then.

    • @yungyamazaki9512
      @yungyamazaki9512 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the netcode is whack but I played it back in the day so I’m used to it

    • @tronixchl2004
      @tronixchl2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wave81210 yeah, yesterday i played 4 matches: 1st was kinda ok, 2-3 TRASH 10fps, and the last one same as 1st, we need that rollback netcode

    • @tronixchl2004
      @tronixchl2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DJDizzy8 well all that time to finish story mode, play every other mode, get every achievment...... Complete challenge mode and learn my main

  • @Mr.Faust3
    @Mr.Faust3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    looking forward to more guides on this game

  • @shadowskys7288
    @shadowskys7288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    1:04 you'll see that the comb I built 22 meter,
    Sir no I can't
    Also I feel like shadow frenzy is amazing now, it feels like your going crazy for real now

  • @Ceeington
    @Ceeington 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I can't wait to see more guides about this game from you

  • @giannis_tar
    @giannis_tar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Can you also do a video on the character specific changes? I am well aware of most of them, but I would love to see your reaction to Yukiko's flame dance spam 🤣

    • @sillygoosechinachina
      @sillygoosechinachina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he did already

    • @giannis_tar
      @giannis_tar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sillygoosechinachina a more in-depth one. The one he did was for new players

  • @vanjaku_darius7950
    @vanjaku_darius7950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You might want to move your camera sometimes to show the meter that your camera is blocking. Sometimes I just can't see the meter that you're saying they're building/meter usage/special UI elements

  • @j.r.a.1171
    @j.r.a.1171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i never new they removed the mashing. that was the hardest part for me in this game ngl
    \

  • @n00bleaker19
    @n00bleaker19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    These guides are great!
    Would it be possible to move the camera placement so it doesn't hide P1 meter?

  • @yano4473
    @yano4473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    man it never clicked how close shadows are to 02UM max mode

    • @aegisreflector1239
      @aegisreflector1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean?

    • @lucasmacedo7145
      @lucasmacedo7145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      they literally are that honestly

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aegisreflector1239 King of fighters 02 has a max mode, which much like shadows has slightly reduced attack in exchange for giving you more supers and cancels you couldn't normally do

    • @aegisreflector1239
      @aegisreflector1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaitouKaiju Ah ok thank you 🙏

  • @itsCrust
    @itsCrust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    one day LK will learn to move his damn camera
    i'm not gonna hold my breath on it, but it'll happen.
    maybe.

  • @SummonNyarly
    @SummonNyarly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You weren't kidding when you said shadow labrys was hard in your other video. I'm not quitting tho, her persona is calm.

  • @BearlyAKoala
    @BearlyAKoala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Never really played P4U but with the changes to Panic, wouldn't left right mixups just not work because you can block by holding either direction? Since I have never played the game idk how common left right mixups are.
    Edit : At 7:55 you talked about pressing back and walking forward would make you get hit but would that mean if you were holding back to block in a blockstring and the opponent leaves a gap that you could move in you would get hit because of it?

    • @sorenduscai
      @sorenduscai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your inputs are straight up changed. Left is right etc

    • @BearlyAKoala
      @BearlyAKoala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sorenduscai I understand that the inputs are reversed normally in panic but at 7:30 he shows that you can still block with downback and downfoward.

    • @pinkjolyne5432
      @pinkjolyne5432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BearlyAKoala Since now you can hold downback to block while in panic, maybe they are more vulnerable now to overheads? people might just default to holding downback so they might easily get hit by highs

    • @Doosfin
      @Doosfin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      panic makes blocking stronger, but it's good for convincing the opponent to block in the first place.
      I think the crossup demon type characters don't tend to be the ones who cause panic, since that wouldn't be great for their game plan

    • @bug-deal
      @bug-deal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be completely clear, yes, it means left right mixups won't work. You can't block the wrong way (horizontally) in panic anymore.

  • @felolopez2167
    @felolopez2167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    can you do a guide about the basics of this game? love your content!

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was really wondering about the shadows
    Great stuff

  • @goldenexperience1123
    @goldenexperience1123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, King. It really feels like shadows got even crazier with having burst and shadow frenzy at zero meter.

  • @GuuchReborn
    @GuuchReborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for making this video

  • @nixedification
    @nixedification 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Who are the top tiers? Whos the easy top tier? Narukami?

    • @chartsol5923
      @chartsol5923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mitsuru, Chie and Aigis are top 3. Narukami is very strong but he's nerfed compared to Ultimax 1.1

    • @legendredux1291
      @legendredux1291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SHADOWS

    • @legendredux1291
      @legendredux1291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @order-sol's last brain cell japan exists

  • @darkhaven9119
    @darkhaven9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I really hope they make a persona 5 arena game for ps5!

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm still shocked that heccing SMASH got a P5 rep before Cross Tag or P4A.
      Like don't get me wrong, Joker in smash is fun and I'm glad to have him, but I feel like he would have been a huge slam dunk in literally either of those games.

    • @synysterpain
      @synysterpain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm hoping they're already working on it and using this game to Guage interested and fund the next one

    • @KingK1421
      @KingK1421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah

    • @darkhaven9119
      @darkhaven9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KingK1421 nah? It would be awesome you’re tripping

    • @ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970
      @ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@webbowser8834 they're saving them for p5 arena

  • @auroricaura
    @auroricaura 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This game is REALLY complex and I don't get ANYTHING but I want to play it haha. Thanks for stuff like this to help, the tutorials aren't actually updated so it still tells you to go back and forth on freeze state.

  • @JeffRobLink
    @JeffRobLink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh I see shadow frenzy is similar to "overdrive" in BlazBlue in some ways. Oh wow.

    • @NeoBoneGirl
      @NeoBoneGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only in the fact that you can’t burst, really

  • @SomniaCE
    @SomniaCE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shadow characters getting crazy buffed is kinda disheartening considering how good most of them already were. It also just kills the unique feel and pace they gave to a match by making their design more uniform. Oh well

    • @lay-lowandsmash1519
      @lay-lowandsmash1519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time will tell.

    • @lFede64l
      @lFede64l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Just like in the japanese arcade version, there's no reason to pick the normal version of a character anymore. You're basically gimping yourself.

    • @Xenonfuji
      @Xenonfuji 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lFede64l except for the case of Yu. Normal Yu is still considered better than Shadow Yu.

  • @JaeGroove
    @JaeGroove 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I needed this cause when I got on today, I forgot every damn thing lmao

  • @strangereligion4373
    @strangereligion4373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I really wish your camera bubble wasn't right ontop of the meter. It's honestly pretty annoying, why not just not include camera footage at all?

  • @legendredux1291
    @legendredux1291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant even make my fightstick work...

  • @coolmasterjg2450
    @coolmasterjg2450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hoping they made chie more fire or the same!

  • @unusualthoughts2658
    @unusualthoughts2658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would this be a good game for me to return to fighting games?
    my main problem with them is that I really need to make one game my "main game" and if for a day or week I decide to do something else, say play elden ring or team fortress, I instantly become 200% rusty and spaghettify all my inputs

  • @AngelGel01
    @AngelGel01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there any mitsuru guides out there?

  • @MrGutzs
    @MrGutzs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you going to do beginner guides for this game? (Controls, mechanics, combos, etc)

  • @strangereligion4373
    @strangereligion4373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:56 What do you mean by mash? This is so confusing 💀

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mash the attack buttons. You push them a lot.

    • @strangereligion4373
      @strangereligion4373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hmad898 just all of em?

  • @pricingace-rojas9571
    @pricingace-rojas9571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think the most notable change they made in P4U 2.0 is that this one crashes every time I try to boot up the game

  • @Sykloneblack
    @Sykloneblack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i loves this kusoge

  • @yourbellboy
    @yourbellboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    woa 😳 did they make this a whole new game??

  • @dkflbckfd34htu
    @dkflbckfd34htu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see more content for p4u

  • @lucasharrison6389
    @lucasharrison6389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the all-out-attack, do you still have to press both buttons in order to get max damage?

  • @Nobody-hc1rw
    @Nobody-hc1rw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im still waiting for the magic words: Rollback Netcode 😢

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was confirmed a while ago that it's coming in the summer

  • @Strawhat-Kev
    @Strawhat-Kev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t wait to play tonight when I get in ! Is it easier to play on pad?, I’m about to buy a new one also Do the characters feel the same as there blaz blue tag version ?

    • @oni4973
      @oni4973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, not really. The bbtag counterparts of the characters are basically super simplified versions of them, some characters being changed drastically like Mitsuru, who’s a charge character in p4au.

  • @arachnofiend2859
    @arachnofiend2859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How does being able to activate shadow frenzy early affect the way its used? I remember Shadow Naoto had a pretty specific setup for her IK with shadow frenzy that I don't think would work with less meter to play with. Are there other options you might go for depending on the situation or do you usually want to wait for 100 anyways?

    • @unskilledrandom
      @unskilledrandom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its a burst, any combo done in shadow state is unburstable, anything that drains your meter done during a frenzy drains a % of your time remaining rather than a flat number, and probably a few other reasons I can't think of off the top of my head. There are almost certainly combos you'll still want the full duration for but just having the ability to make that extra decision at any time puts a lot of pressure on the person playing against the shadow player.

    • @arachnofiend2859
      @arachnofiend2859 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unskilledrandom Not long after posting that I managed to get the game to work with my stick and realized that I could confirm into Hamaon at a comically small amount of meter so that's cool

  • @laneplain107
    @laneplain107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what's the downside to using Shadow characters? They don't seem to have any.

    • @papercat5829
      @papercat5829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No ik. No one more burst. No awakening (under 35% health you gain 50 meter and a 40% defense boost and an awakening super also no 150 meter cap) although shadows get awakening super from the start. 10% lower damage but shadow frenzy does crazy damage so it makes up for it. Theyr usually better than their regular counterpart but the regular ones are fine too

    • @butterflydreamer9649
      @butterflydreamer9649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No burst is really important since it’s very hard to escape combos without burst

    • @papercat5829
      @papercat5829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@butterflydreamer9649 shadows have burst in 2.0. you do need to spend burst to get to shadow frenzy in 2.0 too tho

  • @justinduran6267
    @justinduran6267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is It Me Or Is Doing Double QC Motions Either Not Work Or Unresponsive

  • @Harutjun
    @Harutjun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just bought the game on ps4 on my ps5 ( it says version 1.00 ) what do you mean with version 2.0 ? because the game will be updated later this year ? sorry for the dumb question because this got me confused

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a rerelease. It's the 2.0 version, it just says 1.0 because as far as playstation is concerned that's what it is.

  • @EeveeShadowBacon
    @EeveeShadowBacon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is there no shadow adachi?

    • @ozzy2134
      @ozzy2134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      because story wise, shadow adachi makes no reason

    • @KBeast618
      @KBeast618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He'd also be the best character in the game with Magatsu Mandala available from the start.

    • @EeveeShadowBacon
      @EeveeShadowBacon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KBeast618 that that would be so much fun.

    • @EeveeShadowBacon
      @EeveeShadowBacon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ozzy2134 Neither does Shadow Yu, but he's there as well.

    • @ozzy2134
      @ozzy2134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EeveeShadowBacon Shadow Yu is literally on the game's story

  • @TigBiddeus
    @TigBiddeus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    are you gonna play jojo all star battle?

  • @uwu-ge6oj
    @uwu-ge6oj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    inputs so fked up man i need to mash in order to super come out its stressing, im on the verge of refunding smh

    • @papercat5829
      @papercat5829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Inputs are gonna become like second nature the longer you play dont give up yet:). Also if your having trouble with the super input try weaving the stick forward then reverse the input and then do the forward input again. Do this semi fastish and its pretty reliable. A little hard to explain on a youtube comment

  • @1deeman2
    @1deeman2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there any reason to play base roster instead of just playing the shadow version?

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some characters dont benefit a whole lot from playing the shadow version, like akihiko who is my main. Ultimately its preference, but shadows generally seem to be stronger. Not enough that they can carry you though.

  • @TK-bm2nc
    @TK-bm2nc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems like they overtuned the shadows.

    • @The_Meev
      @The_Meev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well before, pretty much the only Shadow characters you'd ever see were Chie, Mitsuru, Yu, and Naoto because the weaknesses of Shadow characters were too much for the rest of the cast.

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The_Meev IIRC Shadow Labrys was a huge dark horse that got discovered in recent years.

    • @ubermaster1
      @ubermaster1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The_Meev sadly that’s still all you see 😂

    • @jujs3311
      @jujs3311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@webbowser8834 shadow labrys is different from shadow type characters

    • @The_Meev
      @The_Meev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@webbowser8834 Which one are you talking about? "Shadow Labrys" or "Shadow" Labrys?

  • @edwardemmett9481
    @edwardemmett9481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait isn't the version we're getting 2.5, not 2.0?

    • @Xeroxthebeautiful
      @Xeroxthebeautiful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As far as we can tell it's mechanically identical to the 2.0 version in arcades. 2.5 likely is just because it's technically got new features like a console training mode that weren't in the arcade version.

  • @buttersleopaldstoch5793
    @buttersleopaldstoch5793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is it another game or just an update?

  • @yourbellboy
    @yourbellboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @LordKnight your last video ↩ mentioned that characters can't airblock a few frames after their jump startup
    i'm confused 😅--is that not new or not a big change?

  • @user-lr8pk7un1x
    @user-lr8pk7un1x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you christ they got rid of the AoA mashing, that alone is worth the price of admission

  • @LunaMinuna
    @LunaMinuna 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not going to forgive what they did to Naoto’s theme :/

  • @dreadedsage8630
    @dreadedsage8630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Help a brother out with sho combos :(

  • @smugpug3093
    @smugpug3093 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm hoping I could start off with Naoto since she's waifu, but I've heard she's hard to play since she's a zoner? Thoughts anyone?

    • @TK-bm2nc
      @TK-bm2nc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hardest part is probably trap placements. Game isn’t tht hard to get into. Play who you want

    • @justsomedude7138
      @justsomedude7138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She's not necessarily a zoner, but can be played as one. She's like a weird flexible character that can be played around neutral, rushing down, or zoning.

    • @ubermaster1
      @ubermaster1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Start anyway, it’ll only get hard once you start learning her trap setups
      I’m dealing with the same with Marie, by the time you get to the point where you’re learning setups/set play, you’ll already have mastered most of the fundamentals of the character, enough to get by

    • @giannis_tar
      @giannis_tar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ex Naoto main here. She is definitely one of the harder characters to play and, although she got some nice buffs in this version, I believe she is still probably like mid tier. She's quite fun to play though (also has really cool Japanese voice lines)

    • @unlurkingsentinel6872
      @unlurkingsentinel6872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For reference (since this old video demands to be shared), this is what a Mid Tier in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax looks like (warning: 1.1 footage, the round start memes no longer apply in 2.0) th-cam.com/video/5Wg-T77Tjzw/w-d-xo.html

  • @darkmatter7713
    @darkmatter7713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the pc ver good?

    • @Space_Australian
      @Space_Australian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's trash. Crashes constantly. I can't play any mode besides combo trials and training, anything else sends me to the desktop instantly. Also no lobbies on PC.

    • @darkmatter7713
      @darkmatter7713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Space_Australian thank you for sharing this as i was gonna wait a week or 2 to see if any major problems come up and sorry you had to play a broken game and its got me scratching my head on how they fuck up a port but then again idk how to properly port older games to pc

    • @Space_Australian
      @Space_Australian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkmatter7713 Yeah it really bummed me out. I was super hyped for this game, and I literally can't even play online, game crashes just SEARCHING for players lmao. Idk how they fucked up this port so bad when P4G and P5S both run beautifully on pc.

    • @darkmatter7713
      @darkmatter7713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Space_Australian i actually forgot about p4g on pc and it was a good port iirc. my only guess is they got lazy with the pc port since i have heard no major problems on ps4 or switch so far and it sucks because i do not have a ps4/ps5 and there is no way im gonna play on the switch with the terrible netcode lol guess we gotta wait and see if they plan to fix the pc port

    • @Space_Australian
      @Space_Australian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkmatter7713 Exact same situation on my end that's why I sprung for pc haha. But yeah just gotta wait and see, at least I can lab combos for now....
      Or play elden ring

  • @SonicSol
    @SonicSol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The goonery degenerate patch

  • @throwawaydetective9080
    @throwawaydetective9080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So shadow characters are now twice as broken? Looks like I’m not buying this shit...

  • @RyotaSenju_KOF
    @RyotaSenju_KOF 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First here

  • @BasedSif
    @BasedSif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mashing AOA was LAME. Glad they got rid of it.

  • @paz8723
    @paz8723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    absolutely
    nothing