Thanks so much for having me Jeff, so cool to get down and tick a life goal off. 2024 I reckon we get Joe, Jesse, Cam, Alex and maybe even the big dog GC himself out for a full YTers hit out 😂
Chris, not sure if you're aware, but your Aussie HR monitor was reading in metric during the race. Didn't crack 150 until the last minute, and only cracked 160 in the final sprint. You need to get that fixed 😁
Jeff getting a mechanical and rejoining the front group two laps later, Donny pulling for no reason and dropping himself, the Thirstybears riders chosing not to close the gap and letting a breakaway go then getting 1v2d in the sprint by a 60kg australian... This one was a banger 😂
Two of my favorite TH-cam cycling channels become one here. How cool is this?! This makes me happy. I am glad you got to do this together. Well done, Chris and Jeff!
It’s not a sanctioned race. Essentially a group ride with an agreed race section in the middle. All right turns so minimal interaction with traffic I assume.
Love the race footage. Watching the TB duo, I’m kinda like wtf(looks like my team, as we let our best rider close all the gaps instead of pulling it back for him 🤦🏻♂️)!? If I’m in the race, apologies Chris, I would be asking: y’all know your mates, right? Now, one of you get your arse moving to close the gap! Actually, if I was in the race, I’d be faking the flat to get the hell out of it. Long gone are those days when I could close a gap at 35-36mph. Anyway, Jeff…your turn! Enjoy the collaboration, and maybe for the next vid, GC Performance loans each of you that speed sniffing SL8 to drag race out in Australia!😂
how can there be a race with right turns through intersections and cars on the road. what if someone has to yield to a car who has the right of way mid race?
They neutralize the race if there is a dangerous situation. But if you look on more videos you realize there is almost never any cars on that road, its the reason they picked this place.
When I was racing, you get a free lap unless it's a short course, then you get more (so you better get a wheel changed fast)...unless it's near the end, then you're just screwed. Since Alviso isn't a sanctioned event--lots of talent and speed--but not an official race, I don't think guys care. I even remember Jeff commenting in one video how a rider "Jumped back in." Even at sanctioned events, things do happen. At a race with long laps, I did have a worthless teammate who sat out for 5 laps, jumped in on the last lap for 4th and collected $10. I was impressed by his sudden ability until he told me. How he was not detected is beyond me.
If you were 2 laps back bc of the flat why did you take pulls to get away from Chris? Just wondering if there is a full about if you have a flat can you jump back in and contest the win ?
After watching these videos for a long time on a small screen, I'm watching on a giant TV and I'm amazed by the course you ride on. I've lost track of how many red lights and stop signs that are ignored on an open circuit. You guys blast through corners without even looking for on-coming traffic. How is that possible?
Mainly the location and time of day. It’s in the back of an industrial park area so the traffic is very low and nonexistent. Time of day also helps with it being right in the middle of the workday so there isn’t a surge of traffic during the time of the race.
I love your channel but you're being a bit disingenuous here Jeff, saying you just took the two laps out you get for a mechanical at crits. Alviso laps are 2.6 km long, crit laps are usually around 1 km. When having a mechanical, you get 1 lap to fix it, very rarely you get 2. But you took the equivalent of 5 laps out. And if you want to play the rules game: you don't get free laps anymore when it's in the last 5 laps, which yours was. As this is just a practice crit, I don't see anything wrong with joining the break again after having done 5 km less, but the right thing to do would have been to sit on the break, don't get involved anymore and let the others battle it out for the win. What you did here was very poor sportsmanship.
It’s a training race, they don’t have a big operation or permits for the race. They just meet up at a certain time and ride. The course is all right hand turns and a couple quiet roads so it’s usually fine but some days it’s bad
@@mattkennedy1203 I get that, but when you have probably a quarter million dollars of bikes and equipment riding around, a few hundred bucks for a cop to block the road for an hour and an ambulance on standby seems to be a pretty easy ask.
@dusty14581 the cop is not going to do that without the necessary permits. Which then requires insurance. Still sounds cheap yeah? Welcome to racing in the USA.
Your breakaway riders never seem to work together properly, do these guys know how to race (particularly criterium/circuit races)? The idea of a breakaway is just that "staying away", hammering up to the front then slacking off on someone's wheel not only wastes your energy but that of the whole breakaway group. I don't know what category of racing this this is but in Cat 1,2 or 2 alone this doesn't happen. From what I've seen many of these guys don't even know how to draft/take a wheel properly thus, again wasting tons of energy, too much space between front to back wheel, dones of draft wasted.
@@liammerrick6399 , Jeff is a joke! He only wins this Alviso because the other riders always fall for his lame tricks LOL... He never wins anything outside of Alviso and he wants to sell criterium coaching classes???? Give me a break!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL
@@ralphmartinez8616 I never said he was not !!!! He is certainly entertaining, but he is also A HUGE FAILURE AS A CICLIST !!!!!! Put VC, JEFF, and VeloHarmony in the same bag and you will end up with THE THREE STURGEONS revival LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
@@ralphmartinez8616 I think hes on school holidays. Usually happens when 10 year olds have too much time on their hands and flood the internet. Hopefully he will be back in class soon.
Thanks so much for having me Jeff, so cool to get down and tick a life goal off.
2024 I reckon we get Joe, Jesse, Cam, Alex and maybe even the big dog GC himself out for a full YTers hit out 😂
Well done on your 3rd place Chris.
Why do you call it 3rd place, when there are 3 riders ahead..... unless Jeff's puncture excludes him ?
Chris, not sure if you're aware, but your Aussie HR monitor was reading in metric during the race. Didn't crack 150 until the last minute, and only cracked 160 in the final sprint. You need to get that fixed 😁
Jeff getting a mechanical and rejoining the front group two laps later, Donny pulling for no reason and dropping himself, the Thirstybears riders chosing not to close the gap and letting a breakaway go then getting 1v2d in the sprint by a 60kg australian... This one was a banger 😂
😂😂🤣🤣
It put my son to sleep!
Jeff: you said you're not a sprinter.
Chris: Eh, maybe I'm aero.
Comedic gold, I nearly choked on that one.
When we gonna see Jeff at Heffron Park with Chris ?
Heffron a beast. Would love to see how Jeff would do on that goat track
Two of my favorite TH-cam cycling channels become one here. How cool is this?!
This makes me happy. I am glad you got to do this together. Well done, Chris and Jeff!
Great to rip with you guys out there 🤙
Triathlon guy with the crit guys is fun to watch
Hands down best guest commentator!
Jeff's commentary is a lot less harsh than Jessie's commentary. Well done lads
Fun to see Chris join Alviso and give it a good go. Good commentary and to the point
Chris was a great addition. Love to see him come back! It was great to see the race from two different perspectives.
Chris Miller = content king
Awesome vid! Great to see Chris Miller at Alviso! I'm surprised more riders don't show up for Alviso with all the exposure this weekly crit has.
Vegemite, kangaroo butt, and aero sprints. Caleb Ewan secrets unveiled.
*butter
Chris's bike matching the Jersey 🔥
My two fav TH-camrs in the same video… awesome
Great collab for you two!
Nice one fellas. Looking forward to seeing summer sweaty hands at a crit here in Melbourne!
Can we all just agree that "Summer Sweaty Hands" should NOT be my nickname for fear of being placed on a Police watch list 😀
@@ChrisMillerCyclingdeal.
Awesome video guys, love to see it. Get Jeff to Heffron Park!
Awesome colab! Sweet racing!
Chris is a fast lad
6:40 surprised that this race co-mingles with regular traffic. Not even cones or traffic police to give some separation.
It’s not a sanctioned race. Essentially a group ride with an agreed race section in the middle. All right turns so minimal interaction with traffic I assume.
Feeling big fomo that I couldn’t make it out to this one with the big Aussie there :/
17:17 I choked on my water lol
This was a fun watch!!
Great Colab!
Love the race footage. Watching the TB duo, I’m kinda like wtf(looks like my team, as we let our best rider close all the gaps instead of pulling it back for him 🤦🏻♂️)!?
If I’m in the race, apologies Chris, I would be asking: y’all know your mates, right? Now, one of you get your arse moving to close the gap!
Actually, if I was in the race, I’d be faking the flat to get the hell out of it. Long gone are those days when I could close a gap at 35-36mph.
Anyway, Jeff…your turn! Enjoy the collaboration, and maybe for the next vid, GC Performance loans each of you that speed sniffing SL8 to drag race out in Australia!😂
Super Great watching you two in the same race 🏁 really cool stuff 👍 👏
“Maybe I’m aero, I dunno know”…funny as hell! 😂
Great collab!
Yes!
Will we see Jeff at the Tuesday “world champs” at centennial park? 😂
It’s never not freaky seeing you all race on roads with cars.
You'd have a heart attack if you saw UK RRs in open roads
Imagine flying 16 hrs to race a crit! There is a lot of great riding up in Marin and out on the Peninsula
That’s not all Chris did haha
Donny just loves to get a good workout
Great content! Love this but Chris you need to get Jesse there next year!
Haha! No we don’t … he’s too fit 😂
lol I just changed back from tubeless back to TPU tubes on my road bike....
The classy thing to do after skipping 2 laps is lead out your group!
Go Chris! Fire up
Sit out for two laps and come back for the win, this isn't crossfit guys.
That was a great vid!
can't understand those thirsty bears not chasing for the win
Maybe they didn't have the legs...
how can there be a race with right turns through intersections and cars on the road. what if someone has to yield to a car who has the right of way mid race?
They neutralize the race if there is a dangerous situation. But if you look on more videos you realize there is almost never any cars on that road, its the reason they picked this place.
that makes sense
@@Southerngreeny101
Im new to bike racing. What are the rules for that punctured tire? Isnt he 2 laps back then? or did he have to catch back up?
When I was racing, you get a free lap unless it's a short course, then you get more (so you better get a wheel changed fast)...unless it's near the end, then you're just screwed. Since Alviso isn't a sanctioned event--lots of talent and speed--but not an official race, I don't think guys care. I even remember Jeff commenting in one video how a rider "Jumped back in." Even at sanctioned events, things do happen. At a race with long laps, I did have a worthless teammate who sat out for 5 laps, jumped in on the last lap for 4th and collected $10. I was impressed by his sudden ability until he told me. How he was not detected is beyond me.
i hav not seen the video to the end but I always new is gonna be a good video in the first 30 sek
Does anyone know the name of the overlay he uses to show his stats during the race/rides? I love the way everything is fed from his bike computer.
If you were 2 laps back bc of the flat why did you take pulls to get away from Chris? Just wondering if there is a full about if you have a flat can you jump back in and contest the win ?
Tubeless is where it’s at haha
l thought you have to take ketones like during the effort kinda to have any effect
Another banger
🤠
FedEx truck on the final lap 🤭
800w sprint to overtake 3 people??
Everyone in that group was thrashed except for Chris
He is lightweight
@@justinbloomer weight doesn't really matter for a sprint though does it?
@@_Tp__ acceleration = force ÷ mass
@@justinbloomer~force / (mass + CdA) Chris is small and thus aero and accelerates well for the power
The crossover episode
Wow, I thought Chris was tall. What bike sizes are we talking about?
5"9 ... size 54. I did a video about the bike I was running last week.
Thanks @@ChrisMillerCycling Will watch that video. So Jeff rides an XL bike -- wow, I never would've imagined.
Chris has been baptized...
Jeff what do you think of the Dura ace wheels?
Can't believe you can flat and rejoin later, surely you have a mech in a crit and your gone, dust🤷♂️
How can you win when you're two laps down? 🤔
Crit rules
@@discbrakefanUnderstood 👍 I saw the question answered in other comments.
After watching these videos for a long time on a small screen, I'm watching on a giant TV and I'm amazed by the course you ride on. I've lost track of how many red lights and stop signs that are ignored on an open circuit. You guys blast through corners without even looking for on-coming traffic. How is that possible?
Quieter area and it’s all right turns so no traffic to pass
Mainly the location and time of day. It’s in the back of an industrial park area so the traffic is very low and nonexistent. Time of day also helps with it being right in the middle of the workday so there isn’t a surge of traffic during the time of the race.
You can turn right through a red light in California
How did Jeff win if he missed two laps?
Most crits allow lap(s) out for mechanicals
He was definitely less gracious about Alviso on his own podcast...
It has to be that keto drink
Aussie Watts are bigger than US Watts.
Damn right. Metric watts 😂
He who hesitates is lost.
I love your channel but you're being a bit disingenuous here Jeff, saying you just took the two laps out you get for a mechanical at crits. Alviso laps are 2.6 km long, crit laps are usually around 1 km. When having a mechanical, you get 1 lap to fix it, very rarely you get 2. But you took the equivalent of 5 laps out. And if you want to play the rules game: you don't get free laps anymore when it's in the last 5 laps, which yours was.
As this is just a practice crit, I don't see anything wrong with joining the break again after having done 5 km less, but the right thing to do would have been to sit on the break, don't get involved anymore and let the others battle it out for the win. What you did here was very poor sportsmanship.
Anyone listen to his podcast where he mentioned Alviso? Felt like a dis to me. You be the judge.
You flat out and rejoin the break? Lol
yeah. how does that happen?
Free laps exist in crits for flats and mechanicals
@@NorCalCycling Thanks, was very confused :)
@@NorCalCycling Cool. Thanks. Nice riding!
why are the roads not closed!?? lol
It’s a training race, they don’t have a big operation or permits for the race. They just meet up at a certain time and ride. The course is all right hand turns and a couple quiet roads so it’s usually fine but some days it’s bad
@@mattkennedy1203 I get that, but when you have probably a quarter million dollars of bikes and equipment riding around, a few hundred bucks for a cop to block the road for an hour and an ambulance on standby seems to be a pretty easy ask.
@dusty14581 the cop is not going to do that without the necessary permits. Which then requires insurance. Still sounds cheap yeah? Welcome to racing in the USA.
Is Thirsty Bear like an allusion to being big strong gay guys? Not hating just bike curious.
Imagine having 165 max hr doing all out sprint 😮
Can’t compare heart rates between people
I remember Ej's first. 😢
Forget him 😂😊
@@Ryelai how did we become so ruthless! He was our chosen one. ☠️
@@jurgenforster8314 "It was said that you would destroy the VeloKings, not join them!"
Hindsight really is 20/20
@@Ryelaiwhat happened)
Where has EJ been?
Keep up man
Your breakaway riders never seem to work together properly, do these guys know how to race (particularly criterium/circuit races)? The idea of a breakaway is just that "staying away", hammering up to the front then slacking off on someone's wheel not only wastes your energy but that of the whole breakaway group. I don't know what category of racing this this is but in Cat 1,2 or 2 alone this doesn't happen. From what I've seen many of these guys don't even know how to draft/take a wheel properly thus, again wasting tons of energy, too much space between front to back wheel, dones of draft wasted.
NOR CAL NOTICE ME SENPIA , DID U REALLY CHANGE A FLAT AND CATCH UP TO THE FRONT ?!??? YOU FREAJK ! WTF
How many stupid things will chris say in this video?
Wow, zero!
He clearly saves it for his own channel
@@Avioto good point
Chris saved your show today! If it was not for him, this episode would be another epic failure !!!!!
What a strange comment
@@liammerrick6399 , Jeff is a joke! He only wins this Alviso because the other riders always fall for his lame tricks LOL... He never wins anything outside of Alviso and he wants to sell criterium coaching classes???? Give me a break!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL
good one EJ
@@vanechi EJ is a living proof that a lame couch creates a far lame pupil! The has power only!!!! Do not know how to use it!
Chris did not win because it would be so humiliating to you people lol. He pretends he could not lol!!!!! Jeff you are the worst joke ever! LOL😂😂😂😂!!!
Wow bro chill.
Jeff is cool af buddy.
@@ralphmartinez8616 I never said he was not !!!! He is certainly entertaining, but he is also A HUGE FAILURE AS A CICLIST !!!!!! Put VC, JEFF, and VeloHarmony in the same bag and you will end up with THE THREE STURGEONS revival LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
he is more like 80 watts lol lol lol @@cracked229
@@mbastos1000 👍🏽
@@ralphmartinez8616 I think hes on school holidays. Usually happens when 10 year olds have too much time on their hands and flood the internet. Hopefully he will be back in class soon.