Not only have the Rell Team *listened to the community* and have taken the feedback in a fairly positive way, but in less than a week they've reworked Gravity and are already starting to rework all the other fruits considering they've said on their Twitter that most of the fruits were worked on months ago and were only now being showcased. To put that into short terms, it took Grand Piece Online more than 2 years to rework Tori and even then it still had its flaws. Gravity was reworked in less than a week and I've not seen a single complaint.
@@ShizukiZenobecause playability matters if devs took more time and effort on games like rell games did then anime games would stop dying like how they are now
Knowing how easily the devs kept up weekly updates for Shindo life, to the point where they had 200+ updates in a row, its not causing that much of a delay.
im telling yall as a shindo veteran the weekly updates was pretty mid, majority of them like 80%was just "new" bloodlines that had old moves which were reskined from other old bloodlines, basically same mechanics nothing new
@@tsu822this is what’s called people who don’t play Shindo life and look at things withought context. There already has been multiple delays in the game, and because they are working with a team and not just themselves this for sure could delay the game. I honestly don’t think rell seas is anywhere near done, and think they should release it looking it’s best so prob around summer time next year and if it delays to Make it look better I’m fine with it
Well I know the shinobi life update was mid and a lot of reskins but gpo also does a lot of reskins in a longer time period the main reason he's comparing because if you compare the time it took persay gpo to update and then how many updates shinobi life had shinobi life is going to have more content (not neccesarily the best content but content) and about the release thing they said it should release somewhat early next year at latest in the summer time (so probably around summer time I'm thinking)@@leylaali1982
@@leylaali1982 they working on rell seas since shindo released, but just a year ago they got all in for it, tbh it will be great game as far as i can see the singlr think i saw that dissapointed me a bit was "gurauu fruit" which has some of the effects from shindo bl deva rengoku
it scares me how many people dont know about the rell brothers past games and how much those games impacted not only the roblox anime community but the entire roblox platform in general. driveing in new audiances from across different gaming genres & games. so for other devs too talk down on them as if they havent been doing this for a large amount of time is just so disrespectful and honestly idiotic.
Because of king legacy blox fruit gpo and other games that prioritizes VFX over gameplay they have set a standard that if something doesn't look visually cool and appealing its not good
@@revolveragz How in the living hell is that "mid"? It looks better than any other JoJo game in the platform and is definitely better than most games in general. Your standards are far too high
I personally think they shouldve kept the green effects for gura i liked it in the anime and also like it in the game and its not as stale as the usual gura effects
Gravity looks even worse now too much purple effects it feels more like magic than Gravity I understand yall like what yall like but they should try again watch fujitoras scenes
its crazy how fast the rellgames team works, most one piece games would take another month off to change up these animations but it took them a couple days
ngl you be glazing gura a bit too much by saying no other games has this even though the GPO gura is also very well made (rell seas is better because the m1's are cool)
*“A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad”* Honestly I just wish more people would understand this, and especially devs who promises to release a game at certain day, when in reality there for sure would be some (inevitable)delay nonetheless.
He's moreover comparing the speed of the rework both reworks are functional which means that one took less time (probably similar money) due to a efficient dev time. But I will say this most devs dont make a full time income off games unlike the rell brothers which means they still have other things they are required to do obviously they would work considerably faster especially if the other devs are also paid well
Damn people picky as hell bro. People will find anything to hate on Rell seas. The vfx looked completely fine, especially for the way they are going for a more stable optimized game.
The thing about all this is this-people assume they are dropping the game next month subconsciously. They haven’t even rolled out the official testing phase yet, so stuff like optimization and bugs weren’t even checked on yet. Trust me, Rell Seas is in a pretty good spot
@@daviduba5060 shits actually odd, why are people setting the standard that this game needs to both be the perfect game, and that it will be released as an actual game irl. Even those weird ass devs who got mid asl showcases are being critical to rell seas like it’s by Ubisoft, they’ve done above n beyond shit as of now before even a testing phase officially starting
I agree that there settings the standard to high but I do also respect the rell brothers trying there best to meet that standard despite everything also about the optimization thing to the other guy just because something took less time doesn't mean it's not as optimized most devs dont do this as a full time job the rell brothers do@@izzard3756
the simpler fx would’ve been way bette rfor the game lol. Sure the new fx look really good and i prefer them lookswise but having all those effects with so many fruits is gonna make an open world world game like rell seas where you’re probably gonna get into huge fights unbearable.
It's balanced in between, so it's not highly exaggerated for people who are worried about lag or fx covered all over the screen, but it's also very clean and amazing to look at.
Nahhh the effect ain't trash/Mid, it just people's standard are getting higher as time passing. you can see from their sneaks rell brothers really try different kind of texture in Rellsea just to make their game looks good. Remember when No one complaining about Shinobi life 2 has simple effect? and here we are now complaining about a well made models and effects.
Im not a hater or anything I liked how it was before but they have like 20-40 developers I don't see why you're making such a big deal about them reworking a few effects?
i wish all fruits had the same vfx as quake if not better cuz if they want to beat blox fruits they need better vfx im giving feedback i love the game tho
W gravity the improvements I felt weren't needed but omg so much better than it was before. W flame improvements. Gura is a W as well but I would tweak a few stuff like the m1s should be regular m1s but the final m1 should can be a gura punch and make it look as much as a gura punch as possible(no rasengan 😅). And the whirlwind effect they have on one of the gura moves needs to go and change it for a better vfx also the sound fx of gura punches need to have more of that cracking sound when gura smashes and the cracks of the punch look more like electricity or electro so if they can change it to a more crack in reality it'll be so much more dope than what it currently is. Otherwise than that everything is looking very promising. I want them to make look as good as possible but not at the detriment of the games performance and I think they can find a happy medium of it.
still think they should make the player transform into hybrid mode when using base allosaurus attacks, or when selecting the fruit the player would transform into hybrid form
They could save shit like that for an update. they are already busy enough because people are complaining about fruits and they're listening to them and reworking them.
@@freshies3250fr bru ppl wanting them to release everything on the games release then complain that theirs no updates since they alr used all the content💀 half of the models they have shown prolly sint even gonna be ingame on release and are saved for future updates😂
I don't get why people complain about the vfx like my pc is dead shit so this vfx is clearly going to be helpful to me so I can run the game easily , all these bummy gpo devs think about is to make stuff look good with no thought to others pcs
Rell Seas has more content that gpo no? and my pc always stay lagging on gpo if that happens then , my pc not even gonna load anything in in rell seas@@AceBeamedYou
you said what I was thinking man, I alr liked the vfx before, NOW THEY MADE IT BETTER??? like come onnnn this games looks so good, and even if it didnt, if its not going to be a bandit-beater, im sold alr
They need to stop. I'm seeing people say "Rell seas gonna be the best game on roblox". THIS IS NOT GOOD! It is setting it up for failure. These expectations are going to backfire mark my words. It's gonna become the No Mans sky of Roblox if they keep promising things. One day they will promise something they can't or won't follow through with.
I was dreaming for an fruit M1 and im so much Happy for that being FINALLY MADE OMG i prefer Ro Piece just for that GPO, King Wish, Blox Wish im so tired of those game....
The gura m1s are bad. I can see why you wouldn’t see that as you don’t know anything about deving tho. And that’s fine. and the reworks shouldn’t push back the release too much bcs they have a billion devs. Still hope this game actually is gonna be a good game, and I do thing it will be now that I see they actually take criticism very good. Seems like they taking it serious and want to do better! Great 👍🏾
Bro wtf u on abt every good anime games has good vfx it’s not like tell seas is the best eg. Gpo, anime showdown, sakura stand, jujutsu infinite. Tbh rell seas isn’t even that smooth and also the gravity before when the asteroids come down it looked like power points. Also rell seas making things better is a great thing and waiting for it to be better is just a good thing. U js look down bad to test the game out. No complains to rell seas they always listening to us and making it better. It’s u who that wants rell seas to be out more quick to js be not smooth, just wait fam
dude blox fruits all there fruits up until mammoth did not look that good but with mammoth it just does not look good around the islands at least rell bad made sure that the fruits would look good around in the island like why does no one think about how bad blox fruits, fruits are when you would show it next to rell seas just it is dumb and makes me mad
even if it causes a delay I think the reworks is needed. those devs arent wrong when talking about their vfx and especially cpnsidering how rell seas wants to be the best game I think it's needed. Obviously vfx doesnt make a game good but it would def make rell seas so much greater and more enjoyable to feel satisfied with the abilities we get after grinding
Not only have the Rell Team *listened to the community* and have taken the feedback in a fairly positive way, but in less than a week they've reworked Gravity and are already starting to rework all the other fruits considering they've said on their Twitter that most of the fruits were worked on months ago and were only now being showcased. To put that into short terms, it took Grand Piece Online more than 2 years to rework Tori and even then it still had its flaws. Gravity was reworked in less than a week and I've not seen a single complaint.
Real.
if most game devs were like this, roblox anime games would be so much better
Why do people compare games and devs it’s so dumb just stop
@@ShizukiZenobecause playability matters if devs took more time and effort on games like rell games did then anime games would stop dying like how they are now
@@ShizukiZeno to show other people that theyre lazy and after money
Knowing how easily the devs kept up weekly updates for Shindo life, to the point where they had 200+ updates in a row, its not causing that much of a delay.
im telling yall as a shindo veteran the weekly updates was pretty mid, majority of them like 80%was just "new" bloodlines that had old moves which were reskined from other old bloodlines, basically same mechanics nothing new
@@tsu822this is what’s called people who don’t play Shindo life and look at things withought context.
There already has been multiple delays in the game, and because they are working with a team and not just themselves this for sure could delay the game.
I honestly don’t think rell seas is anywhere near done, and think they should release it looking it’s best so prob around summer time next year and if it delays to Make it look better I’m fine with it
Well I know the shinobi life update was mid and a lot of reskins but gpo also does a lot of reskins in a longer time period the main reason he's comparing because if you compare the time it took persay gpo to update and then how many updates shinobi life had shinobi life is going to have more content (not neccesarily the best content but content) and about the release thing they said it should release somewhat early next year at latest in the summer time (so probably around summer time I'm thinking)@@leylaali1982
@@leylaali1982 they working on rell seas since shindo released, but just a year ago they got all in for it, tbh it will be great game as far as i can see the singlr think i saw that dissapointed me a bit was "gurauu fruit" which has some of the effects from shindo bl deva rengoku
@@tsu822 I agree man as long as they don’t rush the game. But I predict game to come out late summer it looks no where near completion
Made 2 moves within a week after the complain, these 2 bros are legendary
it scares me how many people dont know about the rell brothers past games and how much those games impacted not only the roblox anime community but the entire roblox platform in general. driveing in new audiances from across different gaming genres & games. so for other devs too talk down on them as if they havent been doing this for a large amount of time is just so disrespectful and honestly idiotic.
gravity just needs louder sfx and more agressive screen shake. it sounds like your just tossing pillows
Because of king legacy blox fruit gpo and other games that prioritizes VFX over gameplay they have set a standard that if something doesn't look visually cool and appealing its not good
Bro the way he said quality I had to sub
cant lie to u gng the jojo game looks solid why u saying its bad ?
That mid is not solid
then why not say what u dont like so he can change it instead of just saying its trash ?@@revolveragz
@@YuY74 because i do not care
@@revolveragz explains pretty much everything
@@revolveragz How in the living hell is that "mid"? It looks better than any other JoJo game in the platform and is definitely better than most games in general. Your standards are far too high
i cant wait to play this fuckin game
Gravity still looks underwhelming, they should take some inspiration from Eden zero and use Shiki granbell for their gravity moves
00:44 didnt expect much from an ancap argentinian gpo vfx dev LOLLLL
Lool he needs help 😭
Credit them this shows how fast they can work to IMPROVE, meanwhile GPO devs take a decade.
bruh now its gonna come out even later TS NEVER LOOKED BADD
The rell brothers were actually the first devs to actually listen to their community
I personally think they shouldve kept the green effects for gura i liked it in the anime and also like it in the game and its not as stale as the usual gura effects
Gura m1 reminds me of the vampire bl in shindo for somereason
i love rell seas and im keeping anything i say completely off topic from this video, but that jojo game did not look bad lol it seemed pretty solid
The swords, I hope, have to require a special fruit to work the special abilities
Question. Do we know if there will be a haki system? For example arament haki, observation haki, conqueror haki etc
There’s gonna be haki but we don’t really know much about how it’s gonna work but you should probably check a recap of the movie
why wouldn't there be
Bruh I liked the old gravity but I ain't complaining about the new one I mean mid fruits gravity 😢😢😢😢
ngl the jojo game at the start looked good bro is blind
Me for other Rell seas sneak peaks:😴😴😴😴😴🥱🥱🥱🥱
Me for a thimbnail where a light axe looks like Escanor s secret treasure:😱😱😱😱😀😀😀😀
Idt it's still the same gura m1s, but that doesn't matter. Good vfx or not, im still hyped for Rell Seas itself.
They need to update the trees and the surroundings. Make it more real
we not emulating real life bro
@KillerTMF the trees are too bright and distracting, it's the same trees as shindo. They should make new trees that would blend
the trees combinate perfectly with the ambient wym
Just different opinions I guess
def not
Y’all gonna keep complaining about this game and it’s just gonna take longer to come out
Pika axe? That looks like Devine Axe Rhitta Belong to Escanor from 7deadly sins
they said they took it from holy war x😭💀
@@chief_queef 💀
I ain’t know people had a problem with before the rework, it wasn’t bad imo
Now if only pho would listen to his community
lovely jubbly
This might be sea of thieves 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
why did they make gura look green instead of blue ? in the m1s
What dead said
wha@@revolveragz
that was the only time i saw it green the rest of the times it was blue plus blue looks better@DEADLEvo
no matter what they do theres always gunna be some hating ass mfs
I’m not gona lie these to bros gonna be making bucks
W vid
revolver glaze
I think its better to put both the rich vfx and the "low" vfx in the game for mobile or fast mode
But that would ruin the game smh
Wait.... Today is the Devlog ?
Supposed to
aint that gravity from fruit battlegrounds
ye@EGO_BANDIT
This will 100% kill blox fruits
And my Shindo life code? Xd
ill be more happy when they make the game R15!!
R15 would not look good on this game gtfo😭
@@Notyouagn stfu yes it can if they do it right😒
r15 is terrible
@@L0LIProp so gpo looks terrible?
@@emoji1817 very.
I want gura
rell seas solos
😊😊😊😊😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋
I’m first🎉
first
Gravity looks even worse now too much purple effects it feels more like magic than Gravity I understand yall like what yall like but they should try again watch fujitoras scenes
its crazy how fast the rellgames team works, most one piece games would take another month off to change up these animations but it took them a couple days
the jojo game at the start is so well done, not to mention that it's the best timestop over there. seems like someone is angry or blind.
That's what i was saying it looks pretty good to me but the dev was toxic so he prob was just hating to get back
I probably like it with more vfx too,but either way itll be great
ngl you be glazing gura a bit too much by saying no other games has this even though the GPO gura is also very well made (rell seas is better because the m1's are cool)
*“A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad”* Honestly I just wish more people would understand this, and especially devs who promises to release a game at certain day, when in reality there for sure would be some (inevitable)delay nonetheless.
This is not true, most games are delayed in some way and turn out to be a disappointment
He's moreover comparing the speed of the rework both reworks are functional which means that one took less time (probably similar money) due to a efficient dev time.
But I will say this most devs dont make a full time income off games unlike the rell brothers which means they still have other things they are required to do obviously they would work considerably faster especially if the other devs are also paid well
*Disclaimer*, this doesn't apply to blox fruits
Gravity looks soo clean😫
The jojo game is looking good, fym
sure bud
@@revolveragz I mean that's just my opinion, I like the vfx and the animations
ur acting like the jojo game shown was bad
Damn people picky as hell bro. People will find anything to hate on Rell seas. The vfx looked completely fine, especially for the way they are going for a more stable optimized game.
no it actually looked ass and I’m a rell seas lover
@@AceBeamedYou these ppl glazed this game so much pepole want gta 6 grapichs in roblox bro 💀
@@susi6084 no we want gpo graphics or better
@@AceBeamedYou Gpo doesnt even look impressive. Here. I said it.
@KillerTMFcompared to previous gravity it looked rly good
ngl that was some free promotion for bizarre oddysey
ok im ngl those gpo dev discord messages ARE WILD 😭😭😭
whatever happened its never that deep, life is roblox
Loool this what happens when you make kids who haven’t even hit puberty rich
I'm just worried that in trying to rework the fruits in a rush, they cop out on the optimization which in turn makes the game run slower
Yeah we ain't got to worry about that shindo life been running fine they alr did alot of updates in shindo and it turns out fine
The thing about all this is this-people assume they are dropping the game next month subconsciously. They haven’t even rolled out the official testing phase yet, so stuff like optimization and bugs weren’t even checked on yet. Trust me, Rell Seas is in a pretty good spot
@@izzard3756bro all those mfs comparing about the effects probably just extended the games release date by at least 3 months lmao 💀💀
@@daviduba5060 shits actually odd, why are people setting the standard that this game needs to both be the perfect game, and that it will be released as an actual game irl. Even those weird ass devs who got mid asl showcases are being critical to rell seas like it’s by Ubisoft, they’ve done above n beyond shit as of now before even a testing phase officially starting
I agree that there settings the standard to high but I do also respect the rell brothers trying there best to meet that standard despite everything also about the optimization thing to the other guy just because something took less time doesn't mean it's not as optimized most devs dont do this as a full time job the rell brothers do@@izzard3756
Can't wait till the haki showcase
The combat looks way smoother🤤
the simpler fx would’ve been way bette rfor the game lol. Sure the new fx look really good and i prefer them lookswise but having all those effects with so many fruits is gonna make an open world world game like rell seas where you’re probably gonna get into huge fights unbearable.
ugh your poor
It's balanced in between, so it's not highly exaggerated for people who are worried about lag or fx covered all over the screen, but it's also very clean and amazing to look at.
turn your graphics down lol
@@AceBeamedYou😐
@@AceBeamedYou😐
Nahhh the effect ain't trash/Mid, it just people's standard are getting higher as time passing. you can see from their sneaks rell brothers really try different kind of texture in Rellsea just to make their game looks good. Remember when No one complaining about Shinobi life 2 has simple effect? and here we are now complaining about a well made models and effects.
I wonder if they’ll conqueror’s haki o hopefully locked to 2.7k robux like haze piece 😊
they said game wont be pay to win
no robux
that would be terrible dude
Im not a hater or anything I liked how it was before but they have like 20-40 developers I don't see why you're making such a big deal about them reworking a few effects?
i wish all fruits had the same vfx as quake if not better cuz if they want to beat blox fruits they need better vfx im giving feedback i love the game tho
juanitrox's game looks cold asf ur tripping
I compare it to gpo and yea gpo still better
W gravity the improvements I felt weren't needed but omg so much better than it was before. W flame improvements. Gura is a W as well but I would tweak a few stuff like the m1s should be regular m1s but the final m1 should can be a gura punch and make it look as much as a gura punch as possible(no rasengan 😅). And the whirlwind effect they have on one of the gura moves needs to go and change it for a better vfx also the sound fx of gura punches need to have more of that cracking sound when gura smashes and the cracks of the punch look more like electricity or electro so if they can change it to a more crack in reality it'll be so much more dope than what it currently is. Otherwise than that everything is looking very promising. I want them to make look as good as possible but not at the detriment of the games performance and I think they can find a happy medium of it.
When tf is the devlog coming out
still think they should make the player transform into hybrid mode when using base allosaurus attacks, or when selecting the fruit the player would transform into hybrid form
hybrid will most likely be an attained ability or awakening
maybe a boss drop since kaido boss was in hybrid
They could save shit like that for an update. they are already busy enough because people are complaining about fruits and they're listening to them and reworking them.
@@freshies3250fr and the game isnt even done
@@freshies3250 u right
@@freshies3250fr bru ppl wanting them to release everything on the games release then complain that theirs no updates since they alr used all the content💀 half of the models they have shown prolly sint even gonna be ingame on release and are saved for future updates😂
Finally a game that fricken makes quake good. I hope I'll be able to play this game on xbox because I've been looking for a good one piece roblox game
I don't get why people complain about the vfx like my pc is dead shit so this vfx is clearly going to be helpful to me so I can run the game easily , all these bummy gpo devs think about is to make stuff look good with no thought to others pcs
u literally play gpo urself ur pc can run rell seas
you can't tell me what my pc can run @@AceBeamedYou
@@sifankef1059 YOU LITERALLY PLAY GPO BRO UR PC WILL BE ABLE TO RUN RELL SEAS 😭😭
gpo being a heavy game to run already lmao@@AceBeamedYou
Rell Seas has more content that gpo no? and my pc always stay lagging on gpo if that happens then , my pc not even gonna load anything in in rell seas@@AceBeamedYou
you said what I was thinking man, I alr liked the vfx before, NOW THEY MADE IT BETTER??? like come onnnn this games looks so good, and even if it didnt, if its not going to be a bandit-beater, im sold alr
Im gay
hey, im agz
i work for rell seas🥶
thought we wouldn’t see thiss😂
@@revolveragz Omg you Answered me, Ty bro i love you so much❤. I always watch ur vids. ( Im not gay)
The green effects for gura made me glaze the game so hard i like they are trying new stutf the green gura might have just hit the golden spot
legit hitting the nut point
@@PropaneOnTop DAWG
Green Gura is prime Whitebeard gura, go watch Oden's flashback
Just now i've noticed pika's weapon is very simular to Escanor's axe from the seven deadly sins
The pikas axe is from sds :D
You know what Kobe one said If you do not beleive In yourself no one will do it for you
They need to stop. I'm seeing people say "Rell seas gonna be the best game on roblox". THIS IS NOT GOOD! It is setting it up for failure. These expectations are going to backfire mark my words. It's gonna become the No Mans sky of Roblox if they keep promising things. One day they will promise something they can't or won't follow through with.
I was dreaming for an fruit M1 and im so much Happy for that being FINALLY MADE OMG i prefer Ro Piece just for that GPO, King Wish, Blox Wish im so tired of those game....
The gura m1s are bad. I can see why you wouldn’t see that as you don’t know anything about deving tho. And that’s fine.
and the reworks shouldn’t push back the release too much bcs they have a billion devs.
Still hope this game actually is gonna be a good game, and I do thing it will be now that I see they actually take criticism very good. Seems like they taking it serious and want to do better! Great 👍🏾
Bro wtf u on abt every good anime games has good vfx it’s not like tell seas is the best eg. Gpo, anime showdown, sakura stand, jujutsu infinite. Tbh rell seas isn’t even that smooth and also the gravity before when the asteroids come down it looked like power points. Also rell seas making things better is a great thing and waiting for it to be better is just a good thing. U js look down bad to test the game out. No complains to rell seas they always listening to us and making it better. It’s u who that wants rell seas to be out more quick to js be not smooth, just wait fam
I just want a game man. Its been so dry for like a year. Video effects wherent even that bsd. People complaining for nothing
I wonder of these kids forgot shindo life is rell games problems too
dude blox fruits all there fruits up until mammoth did not look that good but with mammoth it just does not look good around the islands at least rell bad made sure that the fruits would look good around in the island like why does no one think about how bad blox fruits, fruits are when you would show it next to rell seas just it is dumb and makes me mad
WHYYY, WHY GURA DOESNT HAVE A GRAB
Bro ima be real, the rell seas gura and gravity moveset is literally copied from fruit battlegrounds inch by inch
I don't know why people is hating this game, this game looks amazing, the detail is just amazing
oh and it should look like a anime because it is based off of one piece which is a manga and a anime and you know how anime looks
I’m excited for jiu-jitsu infinite this holy war x and maybe pocket anime
No glazing but damn i wish i had the cosing skills rell games has them niggas can change an entire game in damn near a day like nothing.
I'm sorry bruh Imma just have to say glaze, BUT the reworks are better
I personally like the low amount of vfx, it gives the game a more chapter 1 one piece type look
Same, and I like so my ping isnt the highest.
0:33 wdym the game looks good ish
Stop playing with them bro
I love revolvers videos
Rell seas is defenitely gonna be better than blox fruits
even if it causes a delay I think the reworks is needed. those devs arent wrong when talking about their vfx and especially cpnsidering how rell seas wants to be the best game I think it's needed. Obviously vfx doesnt make a game good but it would def make rell seas so much greater and more enjoyable to feel satisfied with the abilities we get after grinding
tbh its very very very very very far from being the best game
@@bobbysan693 , how is it veryx4 from being the best game. the best game rn is blox fruits.... there is no competition
@@revolveragzcause blox fruits is aimed towards kids
@@bobbysan693give me one, just ONE game that is better on the plateform currently
gpo is its only comp in quality
How do you call a game you never played trash?