I've been enjoying this series, I'm just getting back into the hobby after many years away. I ordered the TT02BR for my re-introduction. This series has been quite helpful.
This is a great series. I'm an ex on-road and off-road nitro racer, taken a break for a few years now. I have just bought this kit with the same in mind - push it as far as I can and pit myself against the pro chassis racers at the track. The carbon radio plate, don't discount what that does for stiffening the chassis and mitigating slop and flex (which can be nightmare for fine setup adjustments) There is also a full carbon chassis plate $$$ :)
Hey Glenn, really interested in this series. Some thoughts from an aspiring racer. For performance over looks: don't set the ride height too low - you'll drag the front of the car on braking, or the rear on acceleration. Imagine you'll want about 22mm rear, 20mm front. (I know from your previous videos you like it slung low for looks). Might be worth putting some thicker diff grease in the front diff to stiffen it up. Also worth looking into different shock oils to get those shocks nice. Wasn't until I got into racing did I realise how poor the generic Tamiya shock oil is. Look for something that is about 40% heavier for the front. Will aid control and help recovery after bumps. For toe angles for the car, recommend toe in at the rear, 2-3 degrees, and tow neutral or out for the front wheels. Might be worth getting the alu 3 degree C hubs for the rear. That will aid straight line speed, and give you bags of cornering. Worth looking into race servos as the difference in performance between a standard servo and a race servo is about 50% more expensive, but huge difference in performance (speed and strength). Finally, tyre wise, probably worth asking the locals at whatever track you go to what they recommend. All the local clubs to me have different surfaces and wildly different tyre and setup recommendations. Likely teaching you to suck eggs, so apologies if this is all obvious.
Nice build, in my opinion its better to have the centre shaft floating, less binding (free moving transmission) also if you hit something hard (chassis flex) centre prop bends. Found this out in the shaft drive touring car days. 👍🏻
If the DF02 can handle it, a TT02B can as well easy (Also, I've run 3s on a DF02 pretty stock - it screamed - but not a problem especially with their over engineered diffs)
Ha ha, I love the humour you sneak into those outros, great way to make people stay until the end! Yeah, I was wondering if you'd mention the differentials, so let's see what happens when you run it. And definitely on mine, I need to follow along and also get that rear shock tower, get that flex eliminated, ha ha! I'm really benefiting from following along with this, great series!
I have a Neo Scorcher that I’ve actually put more money in HopUps than any other Rc I own . That being said it’s the easiest chassis to work on and probably the most worry free to drive. The parts are readily available if something breaks and it can handle a brushless set up with the right gear ratio. Look forward to seeing what you do with this one Glenn .
Lovely Glen.. I’m keeping up with you so far on mine.. I spoke to you last week about that slop in the drive shaft.. in a strange way I’m glad you have got the same on yours.. I kept thinking what have I done wrong!!!. More o rings then I guess!!
Been waiting for this video Glenn! Every day looking for any updates from your channel 😊 I'm in the process of upgrading my plasma edge 2, i just bought the Tamiya hard reinforced chassis for it, then realised i have ordered so many hop ups, that i am basically building another car! So will be leaving my first one at is, and building one from parts, and I'm putting a nos gravel hound body kit on it. Really enjoying this series. Ps. I ordered the yeah racing universal swing shaft for df03, part number df03-015v2 Cheap and look to be good quality.
I really thinks there's an opportunity to properly document from stock up, how or if the car actually "improves". At each stage, using the same electrics and motor, the top speed and acceleration could be recorded, followed by lap times on the same course. Other, less tangible items to measure would be durability, look and feel. Saying "this is a good upgrade" after it's tested would have a lot more value. At the moment, it's nice to see it develop but we don't actually know how much better at every stage ;-)
So you make a superb point my friend, but unfortunately not having a local track remotely close to me and it also being winter over here. I made the decision to get all the new parts on first, then get it out running once finished. Then if anything breaks, replace it with an upgraded part. Please remember I only do this for fun and to keep my busy until my work permit arrives. I’m not trying to be an influencer or any of that rubbish 🙊
@@TAMIYALegends I'm not saying you should be any means dude! I think your clear and honest view would provide a really compelling breakdown of what really constitutes an upgrade vs. a nice to have. Anyway, looking forward to seeing the next iteration.
I’m planning on doing this with a DT02 Kumamon XB. I have created a track in my front yard and used LapMonitor to time it in stock form. What do you think I should upgrade first?
I've built a couple of TT02B so far, first one has a few upgrades, 2nd has a lot. I found parts from GPM racing for most of my suspension, using Yeah Racing (YR 70) for the universal shafts front and rear on the one kit. Steering links and center shaft is Tamiya Hop-ups. I kept the first one stock with the dog bones so I have spare parts between the two cars. Like the TD4 this car really needs the aluminum servo mounts, too much play with stock plastic.
Once you add the metal drives haft cups then you can add dogbones, Cv drive shafts etc that fit the DF03, I transfered the dogbones from my Dark Impact to my daughters tt02b when I upgraded to a Yeah racing set of CV's
Nice work, Cars looking good. I'd class the carbon battery strap as a performance upgrade, it would've saved 5g, A lighter car is a faster car! The carbon shock towers come with the turnbuckles with the 4mm hex on them as a little bonus too. Looking forward to the next video.
@@TAMIYALegends and guess what I just broke after running into the trampoline? Front carbon shock tower! 😂 Might grab an frp one as a nice middle ground with a bit of flex.
Watch those CVDs. I had some on my regular TT02 and the aluminum broke around the pins. That was just with a 15T brushed motor on NiMh. The steel GPM CVDs are the way to go. Not sure if they offer them for the TT02B though.
Just for reference, I had to use the short type steel gearbox outdrives with the yeah racing df03 steel U/J Driveshafts. Dunno if that would be the case with the oe Tamiya ones though.
Hi Glenn, love the channel, especially project performance 😁👍🏼 I’ve gained a lot of knowledge from your videos as I’m a a novice in the rc world. I’m using project performance as a guide to upgrading my own TT02B chassis. Where do you get your hop ups from? I’m struggling to get hold of some wheels and tyres to use on tarmac? Have you got any recommendations on what’s best to use and who supplies them? Any info would be greatly appreciated 👍🏼 Keep up the great work!
Hi Glenn, nice project. As your primary aim is to improve the car's performance, why not adjust the stance/lower the ride height by using softer springs and/or adding some angle to the shock's position. You'll get a little more droop which might improve handling as well as landing jumps etc. Internal spacers won't improve the car's performance or do you believe otherwise?
I came here to say this. The wheels need to be able to move both down (into holes) and up (over bumps) as the car moves along. The resting height should be somewhere in between.
I would like to see if the Universal Drive Shafts are worth it. I've done this same project but kept the kit shafts. Wasn't sure that aluminum would actually be an "upgrade" on a kit of this caliber.
Hi Glenn, there is Tamiya part number 54754 , which contains front and rear CARBON ( not FRP) shock towers and real turnbuckles with hex for easy adjustment. Would maybe have been the better choice?
@@TAMIYALegends yes, i think that's a great idea. Given you said you don't have a track nearby, and other reasons why it's not practical to test the car after each upgrade. I think that would be another great alternative. You could test both cars with standard motors around a track, then use the same upgraded motors in each car and see if the modifications, amplify the gains from a faster motor since it's now stiffer, and handles better and can use that extra speed. I would donate towards getting a stock car if required at some stage down the track. Thanks again for the videos Glenn. I need them more than you may realize at times.
Does anyone know if a slipper clutch was ever made for the TT02B? I ended up shelving mine because I got sick of replacing spur gears and ring and pinion gears. I can appreciate having a locked transmission on the road version wasn't really an issue. But running the buggy version brushless off road with jumps the locked out transmission was a PITA.
My my dad has a old Tamiya remote control car and I would love to fix it for him if someone has the free time to reach out and help me that would be great thanks have a good day
You keep passing up on carbon fiber parts they're stronger and stiffer and lighter. But you do you but this is just my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions. Lol
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I've been enjoying this series, I'm just getting back into the hobby after many years away. I ordered the TT02BR for my re-introduction. This series has been quite helpful.
This is a great series. I'm an ex on-road and off-road nitro racer, taken a break for a few years now. I have just bought this kit with the same in mind - push it as far as I can and pit myself against the pro chassis racers at the track. The carbon radio plate, don't discount what that does for stiffening the chassis and mitigating slop and flex (which can be nightmare for fine setup adjustments) There is also a full carbon chassis plate $$$ :)
Hey Glenn, really interested in this series. Some thoughts from an aspiring racer. For performance over looks: don't set the ride height too low - you'll drag the front of the car on braking, or the rear on acceleration. Imagine you'll want about 22mm rear, 20mm front. (I know from your previous videos you like it slung low for looks). Might be worth putting some thicker diff grease in the front diff to stiffen it up. Also worth looking into different shock oils to get those shocks nice. Wasn't until I got into racing did I realise how poor the generic Tamiya shock oil is. Look for something that is about 40% heavier for the front. Will aid control and help recovery after bumps. For toe angles for the car, recommend toe in at the rear, 2-3 degrees, and tow neutral or out for the front wheels. Might be worth getting the alu 3 degree C hubs for the rear. That will aid straight line speed, and give you bags of cornering. Worth looking into race servos as the difference in performance between a standard servo and a race servo is about 50% more expensive, but huge difference in performance (speed and strength). Finally, tyre wise, probably worth asking the locals at whatever track you go to what they recommend. All the local clubs to me have different surfaces and wildly different tyre and setup recommendations. Likely teaching you to suck eggs, so apologies if this is all obvious.
Nope this is exactly the information I want Chris, thanks so much for sharing my friend 🤩👊🏻
My tto2b is my fav tamiya for running around local bmx track, great little buggy and relatively cheap parts/upgrades 👍
Great video. Can’t wait for running 🏃♀️ 🏃♀️video 👍😃
Thanks Ian 😊😊😊
Nice build, in my opinion its better to have the centre shaft floating, less binding (free moving transmission) also if you hit something hard (chassis flex) centre prop bends. Found this out in the shaft drive touring car days. 👍🏻
Oh excellent information Luke 😊👊🏻
I’m loving the tt02b project 👍
Thanks Duncan, I’ll be honest it’s only of my favourites I’ve done on the channel 😊👊🏻
The tt02b on 3s is a real beast. Full metal driveline is the way to go 👍
If the DF02 can handle it, a TT02B can as well easy (Also, I've run 3s on a DF02 pretty stock - it screamed - but not a problem especially with their over engineered diffs)
Excellent thanks Gregory 😊👊🏻
Loving the tt02b performance build....looking superb Glenn, can't wait for the next instalment.....keep them coming 👍🏻
Thanks Damien 😊😊😊
Ha ha, I love the humour you sneak into those outros, great way to make people stay until the end!
Yeah, I was wondering if you'd mention the differentials, so let's see what happens when you run it. And definitely on mine, I need to follow along and also get that rear shock tower, get that flex eliminated, ha ha!
I'm really benefiting from following along with this, great series!
Fantastic I’m glad you’re liking it my friend 🤩👊🏻
Great start to the upgrades Glenn. Those suspension mounts look great and you now have adjustable turnbuckles to dial things in with. Very 😎
Thanks buddy 😊👊🏻
Really enjoying this project as I have a newly built stock tt02b on the shelf. Definitely getting lots of ideas and inspiration from your videos.
Snap one off. 🤣🤣 Nice correction Glenn 👍👍
Haha 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome looking car n those wheels look stunning. Thanks for the vid Glenn 👍
I have a Neo Scorcher that I’ve actually put more money in HopUps than any other Rc I own . That being said it’s the easiest chassis to work on and probably the most worry free to drive. The parts are readily available if something breaks and it can handle a brushless set up with the right gear ratio. Look forward to seeing what you do with this one Glenn .
Great video Glenn I fitted the df03 universal driveshafs on my tt02b with the metal cups👊👊
Fantastic I’ll probably do the same if I can find some that aren’t way I’ve priced lol 😂
Red wheel nuts! Very nice!!!😉 Great stuff mate!
This is a good series. Thanks Glenn 👍🏼
Thank you for watching my friend 😊👊🏻
Lovely Glen.. I’m keeping up with you so far on mine.. I spoke to you last week about that slop in the drive shaft.. in a strange way I’m glad you have got the same on yours.. I kept thinking what have I done wrong!!!. More o rings then I guess!!
Been waiting for this video Glenn! Every day looking for any updates from your channel 😊
I'm in the process of upgrading my plasma edge 2, i just bought the Tamiya hard reinforced chassis for it, then realised i have ordered so many hop ups, that i am basically building another car!
So will be leaving my first one at is, and building one from parts, and I'm putting a nos gravel hound body kit on it.
Really enjoying this series.
Ps. I ordered the yeah racing universal swing shaft for df03, part number df03-015v2
Cheap and look to be good quality.
Excellent thanks for sharing this with us Pete 😊
This series will be published every Wednesday my friend 👊🏻
I really thinks there's an opportunity to properly document from stock up, how or if the car actually "improves". At each stage, using the same electrics and motor, the top speed and acceleration could be recorded, followed by lap times on the same course. Other, less tangible items to measure would be durability, look and feel.
Saying "this is a good upgrade" after it's tested would have a lot more value. At the moment, it's nice to see it develop but we don't actually know how much better at every stage ;-)
i said this to glenn over a year and a half ago........
So you make a superb point my friend, but unfortunately not having a local track remotely close to me and it also being winter over here. I made the decision to get all the new parts on first, then get it out running once finished. Then if anything breaks, replace it with an upgraded part.
Please remember I only do this for fun and to keep my busy until my work permit arrives. I’m not trying to be an influencer or any of that rubbish 🙊
@@TAMIYALegends I'm not saying you should be any means dude! I think your clear and honest view would provide a really compelling breakdown of what really constitutes an upgrade vs. a nice to have. Anyway, looking forward to seeing the next iteration.
I’m planning on doing this with a DT02 Kumamon XB. I have created a track in my front yard and used LapMonitor to time it in stock form. What do you think I should upgrade first?
looking forward to seeing the completed shell,and running videos!
Coming soon my friend 😊
I've built a couple of TT02B so far, first one has a few upgrades, 2nd has a lot. I found parts from GPM racing for most of my suspension, using Yeah Racing (YR 70) for the universal shafts front and rear on the one kit. Steering links and center shaft is Tamiya Hop-ups. I kept the first one stock with the dog bones so I have spare parts between the two cars. Like the TD4 this car really needs the aluminum servo mounts, too much play with stock plastic.
Ace mate. I have one of these similarly upgraded. Including the carbon battery strap!
really intrested in seeing what you will be doing with this build and really looking forward to seeing it running
Very nice 😊 Can’t wait for my Upgrades to arrive 😎
Cheers Adam 😊👊🏻
Once you add the metal drives haft cups then you can add dogbones, Cv drive shafts etc that fit the DF03, I transfered the dogbones from my Dark Impact to my daughters tt02b when I upgraded to a Yeah racing set of CV's
Excellent thanks for the information Neil 😊👊🏻
Looking very cool.
I do love tinkering with the tt02 chassis.... yet to get a B version..... I'll live my dreams through your upgrades to it. 😉🤣
Haha that’s not a problem my friend 😊👊🏻
Really coming along mate looks great
Nice work, Cars looking good. I'd class the carbon battery strap as a performance upgrade, it would've saved 5g, A lighter car is a faster car!
The carbon shock towers come with the turnbuckles with the 4mm hex on them as a little bonus too.
Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks for watching Jason 😊👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends and guess what I just broke after running into the trampoline? Front carbon shock tower! 😂 Might grab an frp one as a nice middle ground with a bit of flex.
hey glenn. i’ve used the alloy axles before. they didn’t last long at all. but gives you something to wrench on :)
G'day Glenn howzitgowin mate that car will be a beast when you get all the hot ups in it tuff as mate 👍
Watch those CVDs. I had some on my regular TT02 and the aluminum broke around the pins. That was just with a 15T brushed motor on NiMh. The steel GPM CVDs are the way to go. Not sure if they offer them for the TT02B though.
Excellent thanks for the feedback Ryan 😊👊🏻
Just for reference, I had to use the short type steel gearbox outdrives with the yeah racing df03 steel U/J Driveshafts. Dunno if that would be the case with the oe Tamiya ones though.
Excellent thanks for the information Graham 😊👊🏻
Lookin good so far. 👌
Thanks Matt 😊
Looking good brother.
Gauranga!
Looking forward to see how this turns out and if those parts make much of a difference.
Thanks Paul 😊👊🏻
Great video😀👍
Thanks Morten 😊👊🏻
Dont forget to weigh it! Adding all the metal will add weight, which might be good depending on traction and surfact.
Good idea 😊👊🏻
Coming along nice 😎😎
Thank you 😊
Hi Glenn with those universal joints It's a good Idea to take them apart to grease before you use them, because they are bone dry.
Great upgrades Glenn! Interested to see what it costs and how it performs against some of your other buggies! 👍🤔
Thanks Rob 😊👊🏻
The battery holder thing you're replacing actually would be lighter and might add rigidity to the chassis the carbon fiber.
Hi Glenn, love the channel, especially project performance 😁👍🏼 I’ve gained a lot of knowledge from your videos as I’m a a novice in the rc world. I’m using project performance as a guide to upgrading my own TT02B chassis.
Where do you get your hop ups from? I’m struggling to get hold of some wheels and tyres to use on tarmac? Have you got any recommendations on what’s best to use and who supplies them?
Any info would be greatly appreciated 👍🏼
Keep up the great work!
Looks good!
😀Nice project
Hi Glenn, nice project. As your primary aim is to improve the car's performance, why not adjust the stance/lower the ride height by using softer springs and/or adding some angle to the shock's position. You'll get a little more droop which might improve handling as well as landing jumps etc. Internal spacers won't improve the car's performance or do you believe otherwise?
Excellent information my friend, this is the feedback I need 😅👊🏻
I came here to say this. The wheels need to be able to move both down (into holes) and up (over bumps) as the car moves along. The resting height should be somewhere in between.
I would like to see if the Universal Drive Shafts are worth it. I've done this same project but kept the kit shafts. Wasn't sure that aluminum would actually be an "upgrade" on a kit of this caliber.
Yeah I know where you’re coming from Paul, but I would definitely say UJ’s all round can only help performance 🚗💨💨💨
Glenn the tt02b has limited ground clearance at best. I would maybe not lower this one (I know you like to though lol)
Too late 🤣👊🏻
But yeah I’ve got the option now to raise it when it’s track time 😊👊🏻
Hi Glenn, there is Tamiya part number 54754 , which contains front and rear CARBON ( not FRP) shock towers and real turnbuckles with hex for easy adjustment.
Would maybe have been the better choice?
Hey 👋🏻
Yeah probably lol 😂
Hi Glenn what are your thoughts on the gear box after market drive shafts ? Keen to hear how the car performed with these on. Cheers
That body reminds me of the F-117 - cool car this is gonna be the one you take racing right??
It is Wade but it’s getting a different body set soon 😅👊🏻
Hello Glenn, what is the pitch of the spurr gear on this? Additionally what pinion would you recommend for a 4000KV brushless setup? Thanks
Looking good Glenn, can't wait to see how much improvement you'll get, are you going to get a standard car to see the difference 👍👌😎
Haha I’d not thought about that, but yes I can definitely do that 😊👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends yes, i think that's a great idea.
Given you said you don't have a track nearby, and other reasons why it's not practical to test the car after each upgrade. I think that would be another great alternative.
You could test both cars with standard motors around a track, then use the same upgraded motors in each car and see if the modifications, amplify the gains from a faster motor since it's now stiffer, and handles better and can use that extra speed. I would donate towards getting a stock car if required at some stage down the track.
Thanks again for the videos Glenn. I need them more than you may realize at times.
Hello Glen,
Is a slipper clutch available for TT02? Also, are you planning to upgrade differential to oil filled?
Hey 👋🏻
So no slipper for this chassis. If I break the standard diffs then yeah I’d like to see if I could replace with oil diffs 😊😊😊
@@TAMIYALegends Thanks Glenn, looking forward to see some run footage.
Does anyone know if a slipper clutch was ever made for the TT02B? I ended up shelving mine because I got sick of replacing spur gears and ring and pinion gears. I can appreciate having a locked transmission on the road version wasn't really an issue. But running the buggy version brushless off road with jumps the locked out transmission was a PITA.
Not that I’m aware of 🤔🤷🏼♂️
Hi all,. How does this compare to the old Df02 chassis....
This is just the improved version, I’d say better in every department tbh 🤔🤷🏼♂️
@@TAMIYALegends cool, reacon my DF02 IS Maxed out on hop ups and brushless.
DT-03 CVD's also work
Again carbon is supposedly stronger and you have lower rotating mass so you could get maybe more RPM.
Glenn just out of interest. The stock plastic cups are very robust. We run ours with a fast. Brushless system and they hold up perfectly
Excellent that’s what I like to hear Lee 🚗💨💨😅
My my dad has a old Tamiya remote control car and I would love to fix it for him if someone has the free time to reach out and help me that would be great thanks have a good day
You keep passing up on carbon fiber parts they're stronger and stiffer and lighter. But you do you but this is just my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions. Lol