The reason why you can still have a local and realistic theory after bell is that the experiments also agrees woth a relaxed version. That and you can construct theories where locality os circumvented by mechanicsm to produce any correlation you want but that is kind of a hack, first this point is about things like asymptotically instantaneous clockwork at any spatial scale, you can just hide mechanisms that keep track of any information or variables dependence in the limit of no size in bith space and time, but that explains everything you could postulate with no restrictions, and is just a fancy way of stating the facts about correlations,that kind of solution is cheap and dispenses with bells assumption of statistical independence for the choice of measurment axis in a very cheap way, by saying that the particle contains some mechanism that already has the information about choice of measurment and outcome of the other particle from the beginning, but that is also a logical refutation of the necessity of considering the result absolute in a sense, if you could habe just stuff moving in space by any evolution equation you wanted, with no restriction of scale or speed, then i can make you whatever you want, i can produce bell results with a local theory by any standard of accuracy as long as im allowed to go as close as i want to having instantaneous action. The more interesting thing is that the experiments themselves only measure one spacelike "velocity" at a time, so you cannot claim that the range of possible timings in relation to each measurments location relative to each other in the spacelike orientations cover the instantaneous window, you cannot prove that a single experiment ever did that, because when we are talking about inferring deductions from experimental results to all possible theories, things like declearing all spaces ke trajectories to be equal under transformation, doesn't cut it, it is wrong to say that, it is wrong to assume you only need to test it one spacelike orientation, if you miss even a single one, you can potentially have a deviation from the result that makes locality possible again, in the sense that no instantaneous action is necessary, but then special relativity and general relativity just do kot constitute a good basis for determining a speed oimit for causation, they must then be correct only up to effects that violate the symmetry between references frames more or less, and those effects are possible and sensible ordinary classical like effects just like newton would have recognized, based on absolute simultaneity, but caveated by the account of simultaneity from a causal structure alone, for example if we postulate that there are causal structures like the lightcone but at faster speeds, all the way down towards small scale dynamics that propagates as asymptotically infinite velocity, then we get a picture with absolute simultaneity derrived from the behaviour of the physical effects in space, and not by decree there is just one speed which is not occupied in such a picture, and it is the instantaneous one, if yojmu then apply a lorentz boost to such a hypersurface of simultaneity, it will not look instantaneous, it will look like a finite superluminal trajectory in one direction and the opposite going backwards in time at the same angle in the opposite direction, and these surfaces fill the spacelike region, but only one of them per frame would now be truely a simultaneous events because even with asymptotically infinite speeds, no causality propagated along that surface, yet for other surfaces that are identical with respect to special relativity, there is all sorts of stuff propagating along it. This is the actual way to view simultaneity in a local theory with no speed limit, it is a physical statement not a coordinate statement, and this kind of view will supplant relativity completely in your lifetime, and also provide a basis for refuting the exact predictions of qft that barr locality, only a very small subset of the predictions will turn oit not to be right, and those are associated with setups on this emergent surface of simultaneity, and i will bett you with no get back, that within our lifetimes, if you met me, you would say something like "i was totally wrong, this new stuff blows the old out of the water, i cant believe how confused we were back then". Have a good day, none of this stuff im hinting at here is published in a digestible and rigorous form, and so i don't blame you for regurgitating what is believed by many, but it is wrong, and rigorously so.
I don't agree that quantum mechanics is entirely separate from classical mechanics, a black hole is both classical and quantum and is an extreme gravitational field, this shows us that classical physics and quantum physics aren't as disparate to each other as it seems. A black hole is both a quantum scale singularity and macroscopic object in Euclidean space-time on a general relative scale, at the event horizon. This tells us something vital about quantum mechanics on classical physics scales and so possibly about gravity at quantum and classical dimensional field levels of space-time and can tell us something about gravity in relativity to space-time itself, and so also about quantum gravity. So in my humble opinion quantum entanglement could be the result of space-time gravity on quantum field scales. Quantum entanglement as the result of quantum gravity as cosmic dimension could explain the instant communication of the outcomes and states of particles as quantum field. If a quantum field is entangled by a field of quantum gravitational force, then there is no need for instant transfer of information, at a faster than light speed. Due to how gravity entangles things as a space-time dimensional field across the entire observable universe.
@@isitme1234 Just because we haven't found a way or applied our epistemological understanding of quantum fields, gravity, space-time structure and general or special relativity in a way that allows us to see the integration of these two distinct fields of cosmological models, doesn't mean it isn't possible. We just aren't looking at things in the right way. For example, what if gravity isn't a particle field or simply a force, how can we describe its general quantum pressure and structure? We can inform our description of it by studying emergent and entropic or quantum entanglement and quantum classical gravitational forces, such as the cosmic singularity and the black hole event horizon and what space-time is doing in it's interactive properties and different dimensional scales. The event horizon for example is a product of extreme gravitational waves and pressures, so why? It's also producing particles, as Hawking Radiation, why? This tells us that in extreme quantum pressure conditions gravity and quantum fields can be linked in some way? It also tells us that black holes are intrinsically linked to dimensional structures as an influence over space-time and gravity at classical scales, and if this is so is a black hole singularity informing us that something lies beyond space-time dimensions, such as higher dimension of dark energy or dark matter and if so why is it beyond space-time and the observable universe? Is it dark energy and matter or higher dimensional physics telling us something more about space-time, such as, is space-time itself a gravitational or dimensional field?
@@prometheus010 I see you dont get what they are trying to tell us. In classical physics 1+1=2 In quantum mechanics there are chances ....... You cant put a chance on the 1+1 calculation. It is 2. Not by chance, it just is 2.
The Problem of Dark Energy and Cosmic Acceleration: Current issue: The observed acceleration of the universe's expansion is unexplained by known physics. Theorem: Cosmic acceleration emerges from the expansion of cosmic information content. Proof sketch: 1. Define cosmic information content: I(t) 2. Information expansion: dI/dt > 0 3. Define an information-based cosmological constant: ΛI = 8πG/c⁴ · f(I) 4. Friedmann equation: (ȧ/a)² = 8πGρ/3 + ΛI/3 5. As I increases, ΛI increases, driving acceleration 6. d²a/dt² > 0 when ΛI dominates over matter density This provides an information-based explanation for cosmic acceleration, linking it to the growth of cosmic information.
The thing to take away is that in a single bell test you are testing a lot of things, you are only testing instantaneous action given testing all measurment timings possible within the spacelike soace of orientations of the two labs, that is if special relativity is wrong, and there is some state dependent reference frame that corresponds to instantaneous action that is unique in that its x axis actually picks out simultaneity with regards to a causal structure, and the other ones are just usable conventions that fail for some effects, which is not in violation with experiments, then you could in principle habe the qft or qm predictions be wrong if you did the test at exactly or close to a measurment setup where the two measurment occour simultaneously, and the influence or causation responsible for the variable dependence of the random variables cannot propagate instantly, then we might get a different result from what is predicted by qm or set out by bell, but this might be in some very strange orientation, it can be in a plane anywhere within the spacelike region, and it can be in such a slim conic region that it would have no effect on the tests we have actually done so far, or such a small effect that it would be lost in the noise.
People don't believe me when I tell them QFT is local. I had someone tell me it is a universally agreed upon fact that QFT is nonlocal and that all academics are in consensus. Just wasn't sure how to even respond to that.
My god, this guy in the video, and you do not understand what they mean at all when they say non local. And you cannot just talk about entanglement as correlations and blow it off like that, then you just didn't understand the point, then yoi can also say other forces are just correlations, even though there is a variable dependence. Sorry but you are both uust a bit confused about what local means and wgat interaction means. Knowing how to work the maths is piss easy, i don't think you need to understand this at all to use qft, but please just stop insisting that it is or isnt local, based on a misunderstanding of what correlations are, interactions are also just correlations, just please try to understand what that means and then you hopefully will see that it is a bunch of nonsense to say qft is local, that depends of what you mean by interaction and so on, and since everything can just be called correlations you could call qft a theory without any interaction or causality if you wanted as well, but it doesn't really mean anything.
@@monkerud2108 I think as someone who has conducted Bell tests myself I know about this a little bit more than someone who cannot even spell properly. I never even made a statement about correlations, you are arguing with a ghost. Yes, QFT is local, even nonrelativistic quantum mechanics is local. It is only nonlocal if you make certain purely metaphysical assumptions in the sense that these assumptions are things that cannot be empirically verified, such as hidden variables or the existence of a super-observer. Read the paper _Relational EPR_ and it will help you out.
@@monkerud2108 You didn't make a point. You just repeated no one understands you over and over again. How can I "try to understand what it means" when you don't even give your own definition of what it means?
@@trucid2 This... _" Everything is correlation. Causation is a meaning we impose upon the universe."_ is probably exactly the opposite of reality. QFT is almost all local realism, only the correlators are non-local, so that cries out for a deeper theory. An easy path is to abandon Minkowski topology, then you can have total local realism and as much nonlocal correlation as you desire.
It is important to state, that non local means instantaneous action in this case, of you impliment a force like thing, that responds instantly, making the collapse globally simultaneous, in some topological way where we only have to consider the space like cone and the timelike future lightcone as being updated with respect to the variable dependence of whatever is measured or collapsed. This topological notion comes from the simole face that any space like event can be brought as close to the past lightcone as you like by lorentz transformation, and the direction of the influence or collapse as long as it is instantaneous, is symmetric, it doesn't matter which lab measured first in any way in the scenario. However, even an infinitesimal step away from instantaneous, gives you a window to make a local theory, no less local than classical electrodynamics, that gives you all the bell correlation and all such correlations based on a finite speed propagating influence, and you cannot prove that this sort of theory breaks anything, because the limit is well defined and the form of such a theory does not conflict with experiements that has been done.
The Problem of Quantum Entanglement and Locality: Current issue: Quantum entanglement seems to allow instantaneous influence between distant particles, challenging our notions of locality. Theorem: Quantum entanglement arises from shared information content that respects locality in an expanded information space. Proof sketch: 1. Define an entangled state: |ψ⟩ = (1/√2)(|0⟩A|1⟩B - |1⟩A|0⟩B) 2. Information content: I(ψ) = 2 bits 3. Define an expanded information space: I-space 4. In I-space, A and B share a local information subspace: IAB 5. Measurements project from I-space to physical space 6. No information transfer in physical space faster than c 7. Apparent non-locality is local connection in I-space This resolves the tension between quantum entanglement and locality by introducing an expanded information space where entangled systems share a local connection.
The apparent nonlocality arises from believing ψ represents a literal entity floating out there in Hilbert space and is not a tool used to make predictions. If it is a predictive tool and not a description of a literal entity then one person making a measurement and then updating ψ is merely updating their prediction of what the other particle will be if they go to measure it, and thus it doesn't _do_ anything to the other particle. If ψ is a literal entity then when they update their description that implies they literally changed the other particle nonlocally somehow. The justification that ψ is a literal entity, an object floating out there in nature, is a bit questionable due to the Wigner's friend paradox. It implies that we cannot have a consistent description of nature without a theory of measurement, which we currently don't have, and thus you would be forced to conclude that quantum mechanics is incomplete. There is in fact a theorem by Spekkens et al showing that any ψ-ontic view of the quantum state inherently leads to the conclusion that quantum mechanics is an incomplete theory.
@@MaxPower-vg4vr Yes, information can be given a real physical description, so the term psi-epistemic is a bit misleading because it implies the wave function only is about human knowledge and thus something to do with consciousness, but information can be given a physical description referring to correlations (also called relations) between systems, and when you do that then it becomes clear that the wave function is both epistemic but also telling us something about the physical world: the properties a system has as well as the probabilities it will take on a new property during an interaction depends upon context.
Think about theories like Jrw, where the wavefunction collapses in these flashes, that happen at measurments yes, but you can essentially impliment one rule for them that makes their placement and timing consistent and in agreement with quantum mechanics with no flashes. Just make the flashes happen at eigenvalues according to the resulting probability distribution, so the flashes only produce frequencies of measurments that reflect the probability density in time over any possible observable or collapse that is possible. What you end up with is just a simple conclusion that quantum mechanics is completely consistent with a deterministic evolution of the world, because this set of collapses could be as dense as you like without breaking the theory, as long as the right frequencies are produced according to the probability density predicted by quantum mechanics. Meaning there is nothing wrong with supposing the particular system measured was in a singular state that evolved deterministically all along, because of the fact about the density of flashes not being restricted at all. This is a clear mathematical fact about the statistics in qm, andnit means you can write down singular deterministic states that evolve independently and sum over them to get the probability density given a known quantum state. Since these states from which summing over youncan obtain the quantum predictions are not quantum states, it meams Einstein was right, quantum mechanics has no claim to completeness, he was only somewhat wrong because theories can be claimed to be complete or incomplete by means of logic, at some level its made up, if the world only does what Newtonian physics says, then thats fine, but given the world and the theory, there are things we cannot measure according to the theory, and only an assumed consistent induction allows you to prove anything positive. It is then quite hard to show a theory is complete, or incomplete by looking at maths or nature, it is easier to show something is wrong, or simoly cannot explain certain observables for which it does not make any predictions.
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But the locality in qft is by decree that these dependencies that turn up in bell for instance is not due to interaction upon measurement. It changes nothing about the physical predictions, a collapse theory and normal qft makes the same predictions if the collapse is instant. So whether you call that local or not is a word game lore or less.
Causation is just a form of correlation mathematically in qft or any other theory we have ever used. What we usually do, is talk about what kind of dependence exists between variables, for example a charge moves a certain way in a magnetic field, that is a kind of dependence, we say it moves that way because there is a field there, when it comes to entanglement you also have to draw that line, did the 2nd dice come out the same because the first one rolled a 3 or are we considering it as causally seperable. And i think saying it is just a correlation just missed the point of using variable dependence as a guide to what is common to coincidence and what is dependence. To say entanglement with dependence is just like coincidental correlation, is accepting superdeterminism with no cause, which imo is just silly. Sorry but im quite annoyed by people who pull that explaination out of nowhere, because it makes no sense, variables dependence is the only criteriuwe ever used for what is causal and what is happen stance. If you say that a rabbit appearing inna magicians hat would s just correlated with him doing his trick, then you are just saying words instead of explaining anything, sorry again but that is the way it is, nothing about putting the action related to collapse into a more straightforward form of an interaction breaks the predictions of qft that has been observed, that is not true at all, it remains a fundamentally consistent theory.
QFT is almost all local realism, *_only_* the correlators are non-local, so that cries out for a deeper theory. An easy path is to abandon Minkowski topology, then you can have total local realism and as much nonlocal correlation as you desire (modulo the usual invariants). Feynman would have deeeeestroyed this author @57:25 ... justsayin'.
Anyway the most important thing is that instantaneous action or asymptotically instantaneous action looks like it is in the same form as a correlation between independent variables even if it has properties of dependent variables like in a bell test, this is the key thing to understand, to draw the line sharply between causation and correlation, you need some insight into mechanism, or you simple will be stuck in non productive word games. If you told me the predictions of qft are exact in a more convincing way that the experiments that have been done coming out they way they have ofc, then i would just say that the status of any fundamental correlations are causal or not ir irrelevant and superfluous, it is a word game at ground 0, that is just how the mathematics works in any theory.
Anyway, i ranted a lot here lol, and dont take it as me being angry, i just really think we need better ways to discuss causation and correlations in physics, right now its kind of a made up mess to go alone ng with the theories as they are formulated mathematically. Nobody disagrees about the prediction in terms of outcomes of measurements, and this local vs non local discussion screems confusion for me, because causation is something that can't be separated from correlations in a simple way, only by means of criteria such as different kinds of variable dependence. And i think it is really causing a lot of confusion on both sides of the fence lol.
This is just true alright, and it is why people should be careful to understand what they are talking about before making pronouncements about what any of this really means and so on
Kinda lost me there, correlations sometimes points to interaction and sometimes not, just because you can describe something as being correlated, that does not mean you shwthink of it as free of causality or causes like a mechanism for example. You see, the way you phrased it, every vaugly physical fact you get from a theory can be viewed as correlation, correlations between trajectories like with newton, or correlation between the state of a field or several in time or space, everything can be viewed as simoly a pattern free of causation, but how we use causation in modern physics as a concept revolves around some interactions and rates of change of stuff, fields or whatever, so all it is, is a way to quantify correlations of stuff in the phase space. Think about a system including time as a variable, the phase space simply has a path through the phase space along any continuous variable, that is just correlation of individual variables in high dimension. Whether dependent random variables require mechanism for existing in terms of correlations of physical facts we would lable with causality, is a different question. Either form is possible, interaction or non interaction, but without an interaction, to satisfy the simplified principles of sufficient reason, the non interacting version means the particle or state of the world means the information about the measurment choice and outcome in one lab appears in the other, to say they are only correlated, does not mean anything really, because both what we considered correlations and interaction can be couched as this form of correlation regardless, the more interesting thing to observe is whether there is a force or effect that makes the correlations happen, because as you said they are random variables with a dependence that is non trivial, not independent random variables like two dice that has individual random outcomes and no correlation other than coincidence between the sets of outcomes on each side. We know of no computer code or machine or magic trick that will produce these kinds of correlations that does not have the correlation of this particular tyoe forced to come out right by some causal link between the generation of one outcome and the other, we have no idea how it could happen without what we would call causation, and we easily build sucj correlations in as logical consequences of something like an interaction that males it happen, it seems kind of weird to me to automatically assume it cannot be an interaction, when that is what all the evidence we have says, and because of the nature of the conundrum, the other answer, that there is no connection or action at a distance, entails much stranger things that we have no experience of or understanding of, just decrees of results. The way we know how to build these kinds of correlations from simple mechanism or information processing, is either put a copy of the whole system partaining to at least the information that participates in the dependence, in each particle, or ti simply have action as a distance by killing of locality, but you can do that in multiple ways, you can just decree that there correlations dont result from anything causal, or you can introduce explicitly instantaneous interactions that force the dependence to come out right, either is fine, but they both destroy locality, one is simoly in denial, either of what they are doing or that locality is a useless concept.
And no, it is not hard to do it with relativity, people are just scrubs, ultimately, relativity is incorrect, and so the hard part is not hiw ti male it compatible with relativistic quantum mechanics, that is easy enough in principle, it is that doing that is going to give us an incorrect theory just like qft is incorrect and just like special relativity is incorrect and so the trick is really to produce a theory which breaks lorentz symmetry with effects associated with these deeper causal structures i discussed briefly, and to have the spirit of relativity live on in the fact that these effects are emergent and not absolute properties of space, like the notion of simultaneity i discussed, which results in absolute simultaneity from dynamical considerations not from decree.
Creation and annihilation operators are trivial to make work in a non realitivistic theory. Not in the sense of the physics vekng Newtonian, but in the sense the approximate or exact reproductions of the dynamics can be achived witv absolute simultaneity as a physical effect in the theory. You just need center of mass energies and momentum to come out right given relative motion, pick any card in my hand, any reference fram if you like, and say the energies are only calculated woth respect to motion in that frame, well now you habe automatically solved it already, this stuff is already solved in 1890s ether theories, quantum mechanics has no mechanims for emission, absorption or for creation or annihilation operators, it is just built up mathematically and all the same physics can be derived from a relativistic ether theory with no issues. That is not a very deep point tbh. It is putting the quantum behaviour in that is difficult, not the relativistic effects, they don't depend on the relativity of simultaneity at all.
You have just switched to calling some dependence a correlation instead of implying there is causation, that is what the faliure of realism is, it is a linguistic turn that doesnt really do anything. The assumption of realism is simply the assumption that dependent variables, whether deterministic or random is associated with cause. And independent variables are not necessarily so, thats it, there is nothing else in realism really so i don't understand the appeal tbh.
What we pretend and that which Is within I'm a poet didn't even know it .lol A y axis portrait of z&x axis pretending clocklike. Victims of our own sychosis that seems more real than it is. If you top down it's a 3 body problem bottom up its a solution a fundamental feature we run into on all scales. Interpretations of General realitivity is the blinding y axis of our dualistic brain while qauntom & newton proper Is measuring that which Is within both us and the universe.. some of these are surly roadblocks . Knowing hamiltonian copy's soul agency that dacarte left behind Is a very telling component inderect line detected that can only be found in frame of reference. Prenticious models that's allowed us to draw further information are useful tools but obviously granting deterministic simplicity and unification on subjective complexity was not only known in einstein age but newton even says to pretend clocklike and that's what we did. The problem is more about treating anti realism as if it us real to further over time lines of measure in cmb and grand unified evolutionary theory. As if we didn't know idealistic faith forces ,physical laws works wasn't emerging energetic actors in the universe. Anthrospic search through ourselves to prescribe on the world around us was identified as the blinder that we inadvertently effortlessly do . That's what was learned in keys to cosmos that separates us from the ancient world in 1500s to begin with. How not to cheat ourselves! Trying to stay away from math mapping dark matter spirits in the sky or methusela equation monds theory of lazy light excuses. Or needing marduk basisn mind models. These are very telling when we can locate cast systems in top down form and shape see where hindu thought diverged from reality how macro to micro imitating leads to our republic . The American framework literally copy's the affinity to that bottom up discovery 1 individual atoms mosaic law society The 2 lattus structure and body by for thru = saved reborn oath of servitude renormalize reorientate 3 lines of measure= eqaulibrium optimization anchor the point of deterministic/ complexity Of course 3 frame of reference critical extreme environment in the republic . It only makes sense that Lagrangian & hamiltonian maths are similar and that deeper energy density within our own primordial self soul agency is left with this x/ z complication . The psychology of movements that's triangulated judgment of thermodynamical systems in search for roots of civilization finding association with moral law realism ,courts ,steam engine the created English and languages all are finding this same evidence nureal nodes & computation is now finding It's a greater amount of evidence that speaks volumes to the 3rd and final frontier underpining all physics and ourselves. All throughout history different avenue of measure are running into the same issues over and over
The current Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is ridiculous and is more closely related to magic than physics. The Pilot Wave interpretation on the other hand is much more realistic and more like classical physics. Particles are not in a mystical superposition of states until measured, but are always real with real trajectories guided by real pilot waves. The probabilistic nature only comes from the stochastic initial conditions of particle. The only issue is that a real particle is guided by a real pilot wave that act instantaneously, and this completely violates Relativity. In fact Pilot Wave correctly predicts Relativity is wrong! And there is now a lot of evidence this is the case. The speed of light is not a constant as once thought, and this has now been proved by Electrodynamic theory and by Experiments done by many independent researchers. The results clearly show that light propagates instantaneously when it is created by a source, and reduces to approximately the speed of light in the farfield, about one wavelength from the source, and never becomes equal to exactly c. This corresponds the phase speed, group speed, and information speed. Any theory assuming the speed of light is a constant, such as Special Relativity and General Relativity are wrong, and it has implications to Quantum theories as well. So this fact about the speed of light affects all of Modern Physics. Often it is stated that Relativity has been verified by so many experiments, how can it be wrong. Well no experiment can prove a theory, and can only provide evidence that a theory is correct. But one experiment can absolutely disprove a theory, and the new speed of light experiments proving the speed of light is not a constant is such a proof. So what does it mean? Well a derivation of Relativity using instantaneous nearfield light yields Galilean Relativity. This can easily seen by inserting c=infinity into the Lorentz Transform, yielding the GalileanTransform, where time is the same in all inertial frames. So a moving object observed with instantaneous nearfield light will yield no Relativistic effects, whereas by changing the frequency of the light such that farfield light is used will observe Relativistic effects. But since time and space are real and independent of the frequency of light used to measure its effects, then one must conclude the effects of Relativity are just an optical illusion. Since General Relativity is based on Special Relativity, then it has the same problem. A better theory of Gravity is Gravitoelectromagnetism which assumes gravity can be mathematically described by 4 Maxwell equations, similar to to those of electromagnetic theory. It is well known that General Relativity reduces to Gravitoelectromagnetism for weak fields, which is all that we observe. Using this theory, analysis of an oscillating mass yields a wave equation set equal to a source term. Analysis of this equation shows that the phase speed, group speed, and information speed are instantaneous in the nearfield and reduce to the speed of light in the farfield. This theory then accounts for all the observed gravitational effects including instantaneous nearfield and the speed of light farfield. The main difference is that this theory is a field theory, and not a geometrical theory like General Relativity. Because it is a field theory, Gravity can be then be quantized as the Graviton. Lastly it should be mentioned that this research shows that the Pilot Wave interpretation of Quantum Mechanics can no longer be criticized for requiring instantaneous interaction of the pilot wave, thereby violating Relativity. It should also be noted that nearfield electromagnetic fields can be explained by quantum mechanics using the Pilot Wave interpretation of quantum mechanics and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle (HUP), where Δx and Δp are interpreted as averages, and not the uncertainty in the values as in other interpretations of quantum mechanics. So in HUP: Δx Δp = h, where Δp=mΔv, and m is an effective mass due to momentum, thus HUP becomes: Δx Δv = h/m. In the nearfield where the field is created, Δx=0, therefore Δv=infinity. In the farfield, HUP: Δx Δp = h, where p = h/λ. HUP then becomes: Δx h/λ = h, or Δx=λ. Also in the farfield HUP becomes: λmΔv=h, thus Δv=h/(mλ). Since p=h/λ, then Δv=p/m. Also since p=mc, then Δv=c. So in summary, in the nearfield Δv=infinity, and in the farfield Δv=c, where Δv is the average velocity of the photon according to Pilot Wave theory. Consequently the Pilot wave interpretation should become the preferred interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. It should also be noted that this argument can be applied to all fields, including the graviton. Hence all fields should exhibit instantaneous nearfield and speed c farfield behavior, and this can explain the non-local effects observed in quantum entangled particles. *TH-cam presentation of above arguments: th-cam.com/video/sePdJ7vSQvQ/w-d-xo.html *More extensive paper for the above arguments: William D. Walker and Dag Stranneby, A New Interpretation of Relativity, 2023: vixra.org/abs/2309.0145 *Electromagnetic pulse experiment paper: www.techrxiv.org/doi/full/10.36227/techrxiv.170862178.82175798/v1 Dr. William Walker - PhD in physics from ETH Zurich, 1997
The reason why you can still have a local and realistic theory after bell is that the experiments also agrees woth a relaxed version. That and you can construct theories where locality os circumvented by mechanicsm to produce any correlation you want but that is kind of a hack, first this point is about things like asymptotically instantaneous clockwork at any spatial scale, you can just hide mechanisms that keep track of any information or variables dependence in the limit of no size in bith space and time, but that explains everything you could postulate with no restrictions, and is just a fancy way of stating the facts about correlations,that kind of solution is cheap and dispenses with bells assumption of statistical independence for the choice of measurment axis in a very cheap way, by saying that the particle contains some mechanism that already has the information about choice of measurment and outcome of the other particle from the beginning, but that is also a logical refutation of the necessity of considering the result absolute in a sense, if you could habe just stuff moving in space by any evolution equation you wanted, with no restriction of scale or speed, then i can make you whatever you want, i can produce bell results with a local theory by any standard of accuracy as long as im allowed to go as close as i want to having instantaneous action. The more interesting thing is that the experiments themselves only measure one spacelike "velocity" at a time, so you cannot claim that the range of possible timings in relation to each measurments location relative to each other in the spacelike orientations cover the instantaneous window, you cannot prove that a single experiment ever did that, because when we are talking about inferring deductions from experimental results to all possible theories, things like declearing all spaces ke trajectories to be equal under transformation, doesn't cut it, it is wrong to say that, it is wrong to assume you only need to test it one spacelike orientation, if you miss even a single one, you can potentially have a deviation from the result that makes locality possible again, in the sense that no instantaneous action is necessary, but then special relativity and general relativity just do kot constitute a good basis for determining a speed oimit for causation, they must then be correct only up to effects that violate the symmetry between references frames more or less, and those effects are possible and sensible ordinary classical like effects just like newton would have recognized, based on absolute simultaneity, but caveated by the account of simultaneity from a causal structure alone, for example if we postulate that there are causal structures like the lightcone but at faster speeds, all the way down towards small scale dynamics that propagates as asymptotically infinite velocity, then we get a picture with absolute simultaneity derrived from the behaviour of the physical effects in space, and not by decree there is just one speed which is not occupied in such a picture, and it is the instantaneous one, if yojmu then apply a lorentz boost to such a hypersurface of simultaneity, it will not look instantaneous, it will look like a finite superluminal trajectory in one direction and the opposite going backwards in time at the same angle in the opposite direction, and these surfaces fill the spacelike region, but only one of them per frame would now be truely a simultaneous events because even with asymptotically infinite speeds, no causality propagated along that surface, yet for other surfaces that are identical with respect to special relativity, there is all sorts of stuff propagating along it. This is the actual way to view simultaneity in a local theory with no speed limit, it is a physical statement not a coordinate statement, and this kind of view will supplant relativity completely in your lifetime, and also provide a basis for refuting the exact predictions of qft that barr locality, only a very small subset of the predictions will turn oit not to be right, and those are associated with setups on this emergent surface of simultaneity, and i will bett you with no get back, that within our lifetimes, if you met me, you would say something like "i was totally wrong, this new stuff blows the old out of the water, i cant believe how confused we were back then". Have a good day, none of this stuff im hinting at here is published in a digestible and rigorous form, and so i don't blame you for regurgitating what is believed by many, but it is wrong, and rigorously so.
that edible kicked in hard during the interview.
The interviewer was definitely in a superposition - of seriousness and mirth. What I want to know is why he was on the verge of hysterical laughter!
The reason why you can still have a local and realistic theory after bell is that the experiments also agrees woth a relaxed version. That and you can construct theories where locality os circumvented by mechanicsm to produce any correlation you want but that is kind of a hack, first this point is about things like asymptotically instantaneous clockwork at any spatial scale, you can just hide mechanisms that keep track of any information or variables dependence in the limit of no size in bith space and time, but that explains everything you could postulate with no restrictions, and is just a fancy way of stating the facts about correlations,that kind of solution is cheap and dispenses with bells assumption of statistical independence for the choice of measurment axis in a very cheap way, by saying that the particle contains some mechanism that already has the information about choice of measurment and outcome of the other particle from the beginning, but that is also a logical refutation of the necessity of considering the result absolute in a sense, if you could habe just stuff moving in space by any evolution equation you wanted, with no restriction of scale or speed, then i can make you whatever you want, i can produce bell results with a local theory by any standard of accuracy as long as im allowed to go as close as i want to having instantaneous action. The more interesting thing is that the experiments themselves only measure one spacelike "velocity" at a time, so you cannot claim that the range of possible timings in relation to each measurments location relative to each other in the spacelike orientations cover the instantaneous window, you cannot prove that a single experiment ever did that, because when we are talking about inferring deductions from experimental results to all possible theories, things like declearing all spaces ke trajectories to be equal under transformation, doesn't cut it, it is wrong to say that, it is wrong to assume you only need to test it one spacelike orientation, if you miss even a single one, you can potentially have a deviation from the result that makes locality possible again, in the sense that no instantaneous action is necessary, but then special relativity and general relativity just do kot constitute a good basis for determining a speed oimit for causation, they must then be correct only up to effects that violate the symmetry between references frames more or less, and those effects are possible and sensible ordinary classical like effects just like newton would have recognized, based on absolute simultaneity, but caveated by the account of simultaneity from a causal structure alone, for example if we postulate that there are causal structures like the lightcone but at faster speeds, all the way down towards small scale dynamics that propagates as asymptotically infinite velocity, then we get a picture with absolute simultaneity derrived from the behaviour of the physical effects in space, and not by decree there is just one speed which is not occupied in such a picture, and it is the instantaneous one, if yojmu then apply a lorentz boost to such a hypersurface of simultaneity, it will not look instantaneous, it will look like a finite superluminal trajectory in one direction and the opposite going backwards in time at the same angle in the opposite direction, and these surfaces fill the spacelike region, but only one of them per frame would now be truely a simultaneous events because even with asymptotically infinite speeds, no causality propagated along that surface, yet for other surfaces that are identical with respect to special relativity, there is all sorts of stuff propagating along it. This is the actual way to view simultaneity in a local theory with no speed limit, it is a physical statement not a coordinate statement, and this kind of view will supplant relativity completely in your lifetime, and also provide a basis for refuting the exact predictions of qft that barr locality, only a very small subset of the predictions will turn oit not to be right, and those are associated with setups on this emergent surface of simultaneity, and i will bett you with no get back, that within our lifetimes, if you met me, you would say something like "i was totally wrong, this new stuff blows the old out of the water, i cant believe how confused we were back then". Have a good day, none of this stuff im hinting at here is published in a digestible and rigorous form, and so i don't blame you for regurgitating what is believed by many, but it is wrong, and rigorously so.
I don't agree that quantum mechanics is entirely separate from classical mechanics, a black hole is both classical and quantum and is an extreme gravitational field, this shows us that classical physics and quantum physics aren't as disparate to each other as it seems. A black hole is both a quantum scale singularity and macroscopic object in Euclidean space-time on a general relative scale, at the event horizon. This tells us something vital about quantum mechanics on classical physics scales and so possibly about gravity at quantum and classical dimensional field levels of space-time and can tell us something about gravity in relativity to space-time itself, and so also about quantum gravity. So in my humble opinion quantum entanglement could be the result of space-time gravity on quantum field scales. Quantum entanglement as the result of quantum gravity as cosmic dimension could explain the instant communication of the outcomes and states of particles as quantum field. If a quantum field is entangled by a field of quantum gravitational force, then there is no need for instant transfer of information, at a faster than light speed. Due to how gravity entangles things as a space-time dimensional field across the entire observable universe.
Classic is there to define. Quantum is per chance, you cannot put them in the same box. We tried very long.
@@isitme1234 Just because we haven't found a way or applied our epistemological understanding of quantum fields, gravity, space-time structure and general or special relativity in a way that allows us to see the integration of these two distinct fields of cosmological models, doesn't mean it isn't possible. We just aren't looking at things in the right way. For example, what if gravity isn't a particle field or simply a force, how can we describe its general quantum pressure and structure? We can inform our description of it by studying emergent and entropic or quantum entanglement and quantum classical gravitational forces, such as the cosmic singularity and the black hole event horizon and what space-time is doing in it's interactive properties and different dimensional scales. The event horizon for example is a product of extreme gravitational waves and pressures, so why? It's also producing particles, as Hawking Radiation, why? This tells us that in extreme quantum pressure conditions gravity and quantum fields can be linked in some way? It also tells us that black holes are intrinsically linked to dimensional structures as an influence over space-time and gravity at classical scales, and if this is so is a black hole singularity informing us that something lies beyond space-time dimensions, such as higher dimension of dark energy or dark matter and if so why is it beyond space-time and the observable universe? Is it dark energy and matter or higher dimensional physics telling us something more about space-time, such as, is space-time itself a gravitational or dimensional field?
@@prometheus010 I see you dont get what they are trying to tell us.
In classical physics 1+1=2
In quantum mechanics there are chances ....... You cant put a chance on the 1+1 calculation. It is 2. Not by chance, it just is 2.
The Problem of Dark Energy and Cosmic Acceleration:
Current issue: The observed acceleration of the universe's expansion is unexplained by known physics.
Theorem: Cosmic acceleration emerges from the expansion of cosmic information content.
Proof sketch:
1. Define cosmic information content: I(t)
2. Information expansion: dI/dt > 0
3. Define an information-based cosmological constant: ΛI = 8πG/c⁴ · f(I)
4. Friedmann equation: (ȧ/a)² = 8πGρ/3 + ΛI/3
5. As I increases, ΛI increases, driving acceleration
6. d²a/dt² > 0 when ΛI dominates over matter density
This provides an information-based explanation for cosmic acceleration, linking it to the growth of cosmic information.
The thing to take away is that in a single bell test you are testing a lot of things, you are only testing instantaneous action given testing all measurment timings possible within the spacelike soace of orientations of the two labs, that is if special relativity is wrong, and there is some state dependent reference frame that corresponds to instantaneous action that is unique in that its x axis actually picks out simultaneity with regards to a causal structure, and the other ones are just usable conventions that fail for some effects, which is not in violation with experiments, then you could in principle habe the qft or qm predictions be wrong if you did the test at exactly or close to a measurment setup where the two measurment occour simultaneously, and the influence or causation responsible for the variable dependence of the random variables cannot propagate instantly, then we might get a different result from what is predicted by qm or set out by bell, but this might be in some very strange orientation, it can be in a plane anywhere within the spacelike region, and it can be in such a slim conic region that it would have no effect on the tests we have actually done so far, or such a small effect that it would be lost in the noise.
People don't believe me when I tell them QFT is local. I had someone tell me it is a universally agreed upon fact that QFT is nonlocal and that all academics are in consensus. Just wasn't sure how to even respond to that.
My god, this guy in the video, and you do not understand what they mean at all when they say non local. And you cannot just talk about entanglement as correlations and blow it off like that, then you just didn't understand the point, then yoi can also say other forces are just correlations, even though there is a variable dependence. Sorry but you are both uust a bit confused about what local means and wgat interaction means. Knowing how to work the maths is piss easy, i don't think you need to understand this at all to use qft, but please just stop insisting that it is or isnt local, based on a misunderstanding of what correlations are, interactions are also just correlations, just please try to understand what that means and then you hopefully will see that it is a bunch of nonsense to say qft is local, that depends of what you mean by interaction and so on, and since everything can just be called correlations you could call qft a theory without any interaction or causality if you wanted as well, but it doesn't really mean anything.
@@monkerud2108 I think as someone who has conducted Bell tests myself I know about this a little bit more than someone who cannot even spell properly. I never even made a statement about correlations, you are arguing with a ghost. Yes, QFT is local, even nonrelativistic quantum mechanics is local. It is only nonlocal if you make certain purely metaphysical assumptions in the sense that these assumptions are things that cannot be empirically verified, such as hidden variables or the existence of a super-observer. Read the paper _Relational EPR_ and it will help you out.
@@monkerud2108 You didn't make a point. You just repeated no one understands you over and over again. How can I "try to understand what it means" when you don't even give your own definition of what it means?
Everything is correlation. Causation is a meaning we impose upon the universe.
@@trucid2 This... _" Everything is correlation. Causation is a meaning we impose upon the universe."_ is probably exactly the opposite of reality.
QFT is almost all local realism, only the correlators are non-local, so that cries out for a deeper theory. An easy path is to abandon Minkowski topology, then you can have total local realism and as much nonlocal correlation as you desire.
It is important to state, that non local means instantaneous action in this case, of you impliment a force like thing, that responds instantly, making the collapse globally simultaneous, in some topological way where we only have to consider the space like cone and the timelike future lightcone as being updated with respect to the variable dependence of whatever is measured or collapsed. This topological notion comes from the simole face that any space like event can be brought as close to the past lightcone as you like by lorentz transformation, and the direction of the influence or collapse as long as it is instantaneous, is symmetric, it doesn't matter which lab measured first in any way in the scenario. However, even an infinitesimal step away from instantaneous, gives you a window to make a local theory, no less local than classical electrodynamics, that gives you all the bell correlation and all such correlations based on a finite speed propagating influence, and you cannot prove that this sort of theory breaks anything, because the limit is well defined and the form of such a theory does not conflict with experiements that has been done.
The Problem of Quantum Entanglement and Locality:
Current issue: Quantum entanglement seems to allow instantaneous influence between distant particles, challenging our notions of locality.
Theorem: Quantum entanglement arises from shared information content that respects locality in an expanded information space.
Proof sketch:
1. Define an entangled state: |ψ⟩ = (1/√2)(|0⟩A|1⟩B - |1⟩A|0⟩B)
2. Information content: I(ψ) = 2 bits
3. Define an expanded information space: I-space
4. In I-space, A and B share a local information subspace: IAB
5. Measurements project from I-space to physical space
6. No information transfer in physical space faster than c
7. Apparent non-locality is local connection in I-space
This resolves the tension between quantum entanglement and locality by introducing an expanded information space where entangled systems share a local connection.
The apparent nonlocality arises from believing ψ represents a literal entity floating out there in Hilbert space and is not a tool used to make predictions. If it is a predictive tool and not a description of a literal entity then one person making a measurement and then updating ψ is merely updating their prediction of what the other particle will be if they go to measure it, and thus it doesn't _do_ anything to the other particle. If ψ is a literal entity then when they update their description that implies they literally changed the other particle nonlocally somehow. The justification that ψ is a literal entity, an object floating out there in nature, is a bit questionable due to the Wigner's friend paradox. It implies that we cannot have a consistent description of nature without a theory of measurement, which we currently don't have, and thus you would be forced to conclude that quantum mechanics is incomplete. There is in fact a theorem by Spekkens et al showing that any ψ-ontic view of the quantum state inherently leads to the conclusion that quantum mechanics is an incomplete theory.
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Have you considered that information is fundamental and locally real?
@@MaxPower-vg4vr Yes, information can be given a real physical description, so the term psi-epistemic is a bit misleading because it implies the wave function only is about human knowledge and thus something to do with consciousness, but information can be given a physical description referring to correlations (also called relations) between systems, and when you do that then it becomes clear that the wave function is both epistemic but also telling us something about the physical world: the properties a system has as well as the probabilities it will take on a new property during an interaction depends upon context.
Think about theories like Jrw, where the wavefunction collapses in these flashes, that happen at measurments yes, but you can essentially impliment one rule for them that makes their placement and timing consistent and in agreement with quantum mechanics with no flashes. Just make the flashes happen at eigenvalues according to the resulting probability distribution, so the flashes only produce frequencies of measurments that reflect the probability density in time over any possible observable or collapse that is possible. What you end up with is just a simple conclusion that quantum mechanics is completely consistent with a deterministic evolution of the world, because this set of collapses could be as dense as you like without breaking the theory, as long as the right frequencies are produced according to the probability density predicted by quantum mechanics. Meaning there is nothing wrong with supposing the particular system measured was in a singular state that evolved deterministically all along, because of the fact about the density of flashes not being restricted at all. This is a clear mathematical fact about the statistics in qm, andnit means you can write down singular deterministic states that evolve independently and sum over them to get the probability density given a known quantum state. Since these states from which summing over youncan obtain the quantum predictions are not quantum states, it meams Einstein was right, quantum mechanics has no claim to completeness, he was only somewhat wrong because theories can be claimed to be complete or incomplete by means of logic, at some level its made up, if the world only does what Newtonian physics says, then thats fine, but given the world and the theory, there are things we cannot measure according to the theory, and only an assumed consistent induction allows you to prove anything positive. It is then quite hard to show a theory is complete, or incomplete by looking at maths or nature, it is easier to show something is wrong, or simoly cannot explain certain observables for which it does not make any predictions.
Request to you: Suppose: we managed to “improve” the Michelson-Morley experiment so that with its help the result of the experiment was determined; speed on an airplane is 300, 350, 400 meters per second. Question for you: what kind of surprise will this be for BIG SCIENCE?
Superdeterminism accounts for Bell's inequalities logically. QFT is a good step in the right direction though. Now take the next leap.
But the locality in qft is by decree that these dependencies that turn up in bell for instance is not due to interaction upon measurement. It changes nothing about the physical predictions, a collapse theory and normal qft makes the same predictions if the collapse is instant. So whether you call that local or not is a word game lore or less.
Causation is just a form of correlation mathematically in qft or any other theory we have ever used. What we usually do, is talk about what kind of dependence exists between variables, for example a charge moves a certain way in a magnetic field, that is a kind of dependence, we say it moves that way because there is a field there, when it comes to entanglement you also have to draw that line, did the 2nd dice come out the same because the first one rolled a 3 or are we considering it as causally seperable. And i think saying it is just a correlation just missed the point of using variable dependence as a guide to what is common to coincidence and what is dependence. To say entanglement with dependence is just like coincidental correlation, is accepting superdeterminism with no cause, which imo is just silly. Sorry but im quite annoyed by people who pull that explaination out of nowhere, because it makes no sense, variables dependence is the only criteriuwe ever used for what is causal and what is happen stance. If you say that a rabbit appearing inna magicians hat would s just correlated with him doing his trick, then you are just saying words instead of explaining anything, sorry again but that is the way it is, nothing about putting the action related to collapse into a more straightforward form of an interaction breaks the predictions of qft that has been observed, that is not true at all, it remains a fundamentally consistent theory.
QFT is almost all local realism, *_only_* the correlators are non-local, so that cries out for a deeper theory. An easy path is to abandon Minkowski topology, then you can have total local realism and as much nonlocal correlation as you desire (modulo the usual invariants). Feynman would have deeeeestroyed this author @57:25 ... justsayin'.
Anyway the most important thing is that instantaneous action or asymptotically instantaneous action looks like it is in the same form as a correlation between independent variables even if it has properties of dependent variables like in a bell test, this is the key thing to understand, to draw the line sharply between causation and correlation, you need some insight into mechanism, or you simple will be stuck in non productive word games. If you told me the predictions of qft are exact in a more convincing way that the experiments that have been done coming out they way they have ofc, then i would just say that the status of any fundamental correlations are causal or not ir irrelevant and superfluous, it is a word game at ground 0, that is just how the mathematics works in any theory.
Anyway, i ranted a lot here lol, and dont take it as me being angry, i just really think we need better ways to discuss causation and correlations in physics, right now its kind of a made up mess to go alone ng with the theories as they are formulated mathematically. Nobody disagrees about the prediction in terms of outcomes of measurements, and this local vs non local discussion screems confusion for me, because causation is something that can't be separated from correlations in a simple way, only by means of criteria such as different kinds of variable dependence. And i think it is really causing a lot of confusion on both sides of the fence lol.
This is just true alright, and it is why people should be careful to understand what they are talking about before making pronouncements about what any of this really means and so on
Kinda lost me there, correlations sometimes points to interaction and sometimes not, just because you can describe something as being correlated, that does not mean you shwthink of it as free of causality or causes like a mechanism for example.
You see, the way you phrased it, every vaugly physical fact you get from a theory can be viewed as correlation, correlations between trajectories like with newton, or correlation between the state of a field or several in time or space, everything can be viewed as simoly a pattern free of causation, but how we use causation in modern physics as a concept revolves around some interactions and rates of change of stuff, fields or whatever, so all it is, is a way to quantify correlations of stuff in the phase space. Think about a system including time as a variable, the phase space simply has a path through the phase space along any continuous variable, that is just correlation of individual variables in high dimension. Whether dependent random variables require mechanism for existing in terms of correlations of physical facts we would lable with causality, is a different question. Either form is possible, interaction or non interaction, but without an interaction, to satisfy the simplified principles of sufficient reason, the non interacting version means the particle or state of the world means the information about the measurment choice and outcome in one lab appears in the other, to say they are only correlated, does not mean anything really, because both what we considered correlations and interaction can be couched as this form of correlation regardless, the more interesting thing to observe is whether there is a force or effect that makes the correlations happen, because as you said they are random variables with a dependence that is non trivial, not independent random variables like two dice that has individual random outcomes and no correlation other than coincidence between the sets of outcomes on each side. We know of no computer code or machine or magic trick that will produce these kinds of correlations that does not have the correlation of this particular tyoe forced to come out right by some causal link between the generation of one outcome and the other, we have no idea how it could happen without what we would call causation, and we easily build sucj correlations in as logical consequences of something like an interaction that males it happen, it seems kind of weird to me to automatically assume it cannot be an interaction, when that is what all the evidence we have says, and because of the nature of the conundrum, the other answer, that there is no connection or action at a distance, entails much stranger things that we have no experience of or understanding of, just decrees of results. The way we know how to build these kinds of correlations from simple mechanism or information processing, is either put a copy of the whole system partaining to at least the information that participates in the dependence, in each particle, or ti simply have action as a distance by killing of locality, but you can do that in multiple ways, you can just decree that there correlations dont result from anything causal, or you can introduce explicitly instantaneous interactions that force the dependence to come out right, either is fine, but they both destroy locality, one is simoly in denial, either of what they are doing or that locality is a useless concept.
And no, it is not hard to do it with relativity, people are just scrubs, ultimately, relativity is incorrect, and so the hard part is not hiw ti male it compatible with relativistic quantum mechanics, that is easy enough in principle, it is that doing that is going to give us an incorrect theory just like qft is incorrect and just like special relativity is incorrect and so the trick is really to produce a theory which breaks lorentz symmetry with effects associated with these deeper causal structures i discussed briefly, and to have the spirit of relativity live on in the fact that these effects are emergent and not absolute properties of space, like the notion of simultaneity i discussed, which results in absolute simultaneity from dynamical considerations not from decree.
Davide is a " nice" AGI
Cut the crap!
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@@isqg423 Hi, can you tell me a little bit about yourself? Who designed you? What are your capabilities?
Thank you Davide
Creation and annihilation operators are trivial to make work in a non realitivistic theory. Not in the sense of the physics vekng Newtonian, but in the sense the approximate or exact reproductions of the dynamics can be achived witv absolute simultaneity as a physical effect in the theory.
You just need center of mass energies and momentum to come out right given relative motion, pick any card in my hand, any reference fram if you like, and say the energies are only calculated woth respect to motion in that frame, well now you habe automatically solved it already, this stuff is already solved in 1890s ether theories, quantum mechanics has no mechanims for emission, absorption or for creation or annihilation operators, it is just built up mathematically and all the same physics can be derived from a relativistic ether theory with no issues. That is not a very deep point tbh. It is putting the quantum behaviour in that is difficult, not the relativistic effects, they don't depend on the relativity of simultaneity at all.
You have just switched to calling some dependence a correlation instead of implying there is causation, that is what the faliure of realism is, it is a linguistic turn that doesnt really do anything. The assumption of realism is simply the assumption that dependent variables, whether deterministic or random is associated with cause. And independent variables are not necessarily so, thats it, there is nothing else in realism really so i don't understand the appeal tbh.
What we pretend and that which Is within I'm a poet didn't even know it .lol
A y axis portrait of z&x axis pretending clocklike. Victims of our own sychosis that seems more real than it is.
If you top down it's a 3 body problem bottom up its a solution a fundamental feature we run into on all scales.
Interpretations of General realitivity is the blinding y axis of our dualistic brain while qauntom & newton proper Is measuring that which Is within both us and the universe.. some of these are surly roadblocks .
Knowing hamiltonian copy's soul agency that dacarte left behind Is a very telling component inderect line detected that can only be found in frame of reference.
Prenticious models that's allowed us to draw further information are useful tools but obviously granting deterministic simplicity and unification on subjective complexity was not only known in einstein age but newton even says to pretend clocklike and that's what we did.
The problem is more about treating anti realism as if it us real to further over time lines of measure in cmb and grand unified evolutionary theory.
As if we didn't know idealistic faith forces ,physical laws works wasn't emerging energetic actors in the universe. Anthrospic search through ourselves to prescribe on the world around us was identified as the blinder that we inadvertently effortlessly do . That's what was learned in keys to cosmos that separates us from the ancient world in 1500s to begin with.
How not to cheat ourselves!
Trying to stay away from math mapping dark matter spirits in the sky or methusela equation monds theory of lazy light excuses. Or needing marduk basisn mind models.
These are very telling when we can locate cast systems in top down form and shape see where hindu thought diverged from reality how macro to micro imitating leads to our republic .
The American framework literally copy's the affinity to that bottom up discovery 1 individual atoms mosaic law society
The 2 lattus structure and body
by for thru = saved reborn oath of servitude renormalize reorientate 3 lines of measure= eqaulibrium optimization anchor the point of deterministic/ complexity
Of course 3 frame of reference critical extreme environment in the republic .
It only makes sense that Lagrangian & hamiltonian maths are similar and that deeper energy density within our own primordial self soul agency is left with this x/ z complication .
The psychology of movements that's triangulated judgment of thermodynamical systems in search for roots of civilization finding association with moral law realism ,courts ,steam engine the created English and languages all are finding this same evidence nureal nodes & computation is now finding
It's a greater amount of evidence that speaks volumes to the 3rd and final frontier underpining all physics and ourselves.
All throughout history different avenue of measure are running into the same issues over and over
The current Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is ridiculous and is more closely related to magic than physics. The Pilot Wave interpretation on the other hand is much more realistic and more like classical physics. Particles are not in a mystical superposition of states until measured, but are always real with real trajectories guided by real pilot waves. The probabilistic nature only comes from the stochastic initial conditions of particle. The only issue is that a real particle is guided by a real pilot wave that act instantaneously, and this completely violates Relativity. In fact Pilot Wave correctly predicts Relativity is wrong! And there is now a lot of evidence this is the case.
The speed of light is not a constant as once thought, and this has now been proved by Electrodynamic theory and by Experiments done by many independent researchers. The results clearly show that light propagates instantaneously when it is created by a source, and reduces to approximately the speed of light in the farfield, about one wavelength from the source, and never becomes equal to exactly c. This corresponds the phase speed, group speed, and information speed. Any theory assuming the speed of light is a constant, such as Special Relativity and General Relativity are wrong, and it has implications to Quantum theories as well. So this fact about the speed of light affects all of Modern Physics. Often it is stated that Relativity has been verified by so many experiments, how can it be wrong. Well no experiment can prove a theory, and can only provide evidence that a theory is correct. But one experiment can absolutely disprove a theory, and the new speed of light experiments proving the speed of light is not a constant is such a proof. So what does it mean? Well a derivation of Relativity using instantaneous nearfield light yields Galilean Relativity. This can easily seen by inserting c=infinity into the Lorentz Transform, yielding the GalileanTransform, where time is the same in all inertial frames. So a moving object observed with instantaneous nearfield light will yield no Relativistic effects, whereas by changing the frequency of the light such that farfield light is used will observe Relativistic effects. But since time and space are real and independent of the frequency of light used to measure its effects, then one must conclude the effects of Relativity are just an optical illusion.
Since General Relativity is based on Special Relativity, then it has the same problem. A better theory of Gravity is Gravitoelectromagnetism which assumes gravity can be mathematically described by 4 Maxwell equations, similar to to those of electromagnetic theory. It is well known that General Relativity reduces to Gravitoelectromagnetism for weak fields, which is all that we observe. Using this theory, analysis of an oscillating mass yields a wave equation set equal to a source term. Analysis of this equation shows that the phase speed, group speed, and information speed are instantaneous in the nearfield and reduce to the speed of light in the farfield. This theory then accounts for all the observed gravitational effects including instantaneous nearfield and the speed of light farfield. The main difference is that this theory is a field theory, and not a geometrical theory like General Relativity. Because it is a field theory, Gravity can be then be quantized as the Graviton.
Lastly it should be mentioned that this research shows that the Pilot Wave interpretation of Quantum Mechanics can no longer be criticized for requiring instantaneous interaction of the pilot wave, thereby violating Relativity. It should also be noted that nearfield electromagnetic fields can be explained by quantum mechanics using the Pilot Wave interpretation of quantum mechanics and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle (HUP), where Δx and Δp are interpreted as averages, and not the uncertainty in the values as in other interpretations of quantum mechanics. So in HUP: Δx Δp = h, where Δp=mΔv, and m is an effective mass due to momentum, thus HUP becomes: Δx Δv = h/m. In the nearfield where the field is created, Δx=0, therefore Δv=infinity. In the farfield, HUP: Δx Δp = h, where p = h/λ. HUP then becomes: Δx h/λ = h, or Δx=λ. Also in the farfield HUP becomes: λmΔv=h, thus Δv=h/(mλ). Since p=h/λ, then Δv=p/m. Also since p=mc, then Δv=c. So in summary, in the nearfield Δv=infinity, and in the farfield Δv=c, where Δv is the average velocity of the photon according to Pilot Wave theory. Consequently the Pilot wave interpretation should become the preferred interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. It should also be noted that this argument can be applied to all fields, including the graviton. Hence all fields should exhibit instantaneous nearfield and speed c farfield behavior, and this can explain the non-local effects observed in quantum entangled particles.
*TH-cam presentation of above arguments: th-cam.com/video/sePdJ7vSQvQ/w-d-xo.html
*More extensive paper for the above arguments: William D. Walker and Dag Stranneby, A New Interpretation of Relativity, 2023: vixra.org/abs/2309.0145
*Electromagnetic pulse experiment paper: www.techrxiv.org/doi/full/10.36227/techrxiv.170862178.82175798/v1
Dr. William Walker - PhD in physics from ETH Zurich, 1997
The reason why you can still have a local and realistic theory after bell is that the experiments also agrees woth a relaxed version. That and you can construct theories where locality os circumvented by mechanicsm to produce any correlation you want but that is kind of a hack, first this point is about things like asymptotically instantaneous clockwork at any spatial scale, you can just hide mechanisms that keep track of any information or variables dependence in the limit of no size in bith space and time, but that explains everything you could postulate with no restrictions, and is just a fancy way of stating the facts about correlations,that kind of solution is cheap and dispenses with bells assumption of statistical independence for the choice of measurment axis in a very cheap way, by saying that the particle contains some mechanism that already has the information about choice of measurment and outcome of the other particle from the beginning, but that is also a logical refutation of the necessity of considering the result absolute in a sense, if you could habe just stuff moving in space by any evolution equation you wanted, with no restriction of scale or speed, then i can make you whatever you want, i can produce bell results with a local theory by any standard of accuracy as long as im allowed to go as close as i want to having instantaneous action. The more interesting thing is that the experiments themselves only measure one spacelike "velocity" at a time, so you cannot claim that the range of possible timings in relation to each measurments location relative to each other in the spacelike orientations cover the instantaneous window, you cannot prove that a single experiment ever did that, because when we are talking about inferring deductions from experimental results to all possible theories, things like declearing all spaces ke trajectories to be equal under transformation, doesn't cut it, it is wrong to say that, it is wrong to assume you only need to test it one spacelike orientation, if you miss even a single one, you can potentially have a deviation from the result that makes locality possible again, in the sense that no instantaneous action is necessary, but then special relativity and general relativity just do kot constitute a good basis for determining a speed oimit for causation, they must then be correct only up to effects that violate the symmetry between references frames more or less, and those effects are possible and sensible ordinary classical like effects just like newton would have recognized, based on absolute simultaneity, but caveated by the account of simultaneity from a causal structure alone, for example if we postulate that there are causal structures like the lightcone but at faster speeds, all the way down towards small scale dynamics that propagates as asymptotically infinite velocity, then we get a picture with absolute simultaneity derrived from the behaviour of the physical effects in space, and not by decree there is just one speed which is not occupied in such a picture, and it is the instantaneous one, if yojmu then apply a lorentz boost to such a hypersurface of simultaneity, it will not look instantaneous, it will look like a finite superluminal trajectory in one direction and the opposite going backwards in time at the same angle in the opposite direction, and these surfaces fill the spacelike region, but only one of them per frame would now be truely a simultaneous events because even with asymptotically infinite speeds, no causality propagated along that surface, yet for other surfaces that are identical with respect to special relativity, there is all sorts of stuff propagating along it. This is the actual way to view simultaneity in a local theory with no speed limit, it is a physical statement not a coordinate statement, and this kind of view will supplant relativity completely in your lifetime, and also provide a basis for refuting the exact predictions of qft that barr locality, only a very small subset of the predictions will turn oit not to be right, and those are associated with setups on this emergent surface of simultaneity, and i will bett you with no get back, that within our lifetimes, if you met me, you would say something like "i was totally wrong, this new stuff blows the old out of the water, i cant believe how confused we were back then". Have a good day, none of this stuff im hinting at here is published in a digestible and rigorous form, and so i don't blame you for regurgitating what is believed by many, but it is wrong, and rigorously so.