Strangers Confront a Vegan on Omegle (Change My Mind)
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For a while I have been meaning to set up a 'change my mind' table on veganism. With COVID meaning I can't do this at the moment, I realised I could try the same concept on Omegle, with surprisingly good results!
For those who don't know, Omegle is a website that connects you with a random stranger from around the world via webcam.
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How great was Zachary? Let me know what you think about this new video concept!
i loved it
Omeagle is really poppin' these days. Great concept ✌️😎
Not a big fan. I prefer the more professional content. This feels beneath you.
Loved this, its such a good way to have a conversation about these issues , plz do more of these :)
Focus on the future of humanity, the efficiency of producing food and the limits of resources. Tell them if humanity doesn't switch off of meat, billions will die due to shortages of water, food and the massive impending overpopulation. Imo you focusing on the morality of killing animals is not the best way to convince people. They'll just think you're preachy. If you are gonna focus on morality, show them the literal video of chicks getting gassed and shredded, and the pigs getting brutalized, that'll have more impact than you "preaching" :3
"Are you vegan?"
"Yes"
*leaves*
@Iron Gamer yet so smol
yes, vegans eat leaves.
LOL
@Iron Gamer meat make rational and critical
And people think vegans are rude.
Props to the man who kept saying "good point" and then said he'd try going vegan for a week instead of telling him to f off!
he's a nice, rational, good hearing, and ultimately caring man. I hope he went vegan
People snapping immediately to anger/rage when he even says the word vegan is craaaaaaazy.
Its because most vegans have a bad reputation on forcing their beliefs onto others and calling non vegans evil.
@@Kevin-cy2dr Have you ever seen non-vegans reacting to animal abuse against dogs and cats? They say the most vile things possible and call them evil.
How vegans respond in comparison is extremely mild.
@@Kevin-cy2dr Which they are.
@@FURYBrenton They are people with a bad reputation on forcing their beliefs onto others and calling non vegans evil? He just said that.
@@SirBojo4Yes they are evil, Because they are killing animals just for foods Or taste.
the "killing an animal for the joy of the sound argument" was brilliant!
I'm so gonna use this argument in my next discussion!
I don’t agree, I think its a bad analogy. Its like saying buying a stolen iphone is analogous to paying someone to steal an iphone from someone just to see someone get mugged. Not justifying the actions but they are not analogous to each other and could be pointed out as a fallacious argument.
@@AngelRamirez-zv6qp Just buy an original iphone bro
@@AngelRamirez-zv6qp I think you didn't get it, the person getting mugged would be equivalent to the animal suffering and getting the iphone would be equivalent to hearing the animal scream, he didn't say that he wanted the animal to suffer, just that he liked the sound it made.
@@marioleon7221 that is the thing though, I want to see someone getting mugged for their iphone. I don’t need the actual phone, just want the experience of watching someone in distress.
I admire the honesty of that Egyptian guy and Zachery a lot, they didn't come up with any bullshit, and were happy to admit they were wrong. Not many people do that
Unfortunately most people have quite puffed and guarded egos that are quite unwilling to admit any sort of wrong.
Yes
wrong in what sense?
Sometimes I really wonder what immoral thing I must be doing everyday, out of sheer denial and ignorance....
They didn’t admit they were wrong they just didn’t have an argument
10:39 "I like you" .. how a good person reacts when they learn something new, or hear something that makes sense ..
3:25 compare that reaction to his friends "fuck you!"
Ikr?! And that rapper was chill hahaha
Yup, sign of a wise man.
zachary seems like such a chill dude. he was so willing to learn and hear viewpoints that contradict his own and be friendly about it. wish more people could be like that in this type of discussion.
Hi grace
@@gillmonsta Hi Aquatic Gaming
😂 Didn’t expect this video to be as funny as it was
The editing is top tier. Luv ur channel btw! (Christian here)
Are you a vegan?
Zachary if you’re reading this, you seem like a really chill dude and i hope you have a great life ✌️
Such an amazing lad, open minded and genuine
And the Egyptian guys too! (the ones in the car)
@@pranavlimaye oh God, don't want to make any assumptions, but I hope they don't get turned off by his videos about atheism cause that's a pretty touchy subject there
I ain't gay but that boi is fine
@@KrowwJaeger As a Muslim apostate I'll have to say that's unlikely
I’m perpetually surprised that people consistently forget that livestock eat crops
I know, isn't it amazing. And they forget basic biology like an animal has to go through pregnancy to produce milk. I think animal ag has hypnotised people.
Growing food to feed our food. It's nuts right?
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 I think maybe they assume they graze.
I'm perpetually surprised that people forget that livestock includes pets.
To be fair, I didn't even think of that until after I went vegan and heard it on a couple of vegan youtube channels. It's just something that makes sense in your head until you hear the truth and then you think "Oh fuck, yeah I guess that was stupid to believe"
The only pushback I get when I bring that up is "Well we can't eat what the livestock are eating, it's not food grade for humans" and the best response I can come up with is that we can just grow different crops on the same land
‘He’s high, I’m sorry’
Haha this is an amazing, one of my new favourite videos of yours
'I'll change your mind in 5 minutes'
'I've been vegan for 2 years'
'... Respect'
As soon as his girl was agreeing with Alex he switched up 😂
please please PLEASE make this a regular series!
YEEESSS
YESSSS
Yes!!!
Yes!!
P.S. I literally just saw a comment of yours on Earthling Ed’s video about agricultural subsidies.
Edit: grammar
Yes
Dude this is epic!!
It would be cool to see you do this as well Joey!
Bloody hell next Earthling Ed will be here :)
hey joey! love your vids. you vegans make me feel more and more guilty every day, but in a good way. i can't think of any arguments against being vegan. and i already know i'm going to go vegan once i move out and start buying food for myself.
Yesss Joey I was hoping you saw this! What an easy form of activism (at least after a few drinks xD)
@@strider_hiryu850 in the meantime, you could look up vegan meals/recipes, to get an idea of the types of things you might want to eat.
Those guys from Egypt are most likely theists, they’re in for a shock when they see the channels main content
yes thats what i thought aswell
Same lmaoooo HAHAHAHA
Yh that’s what I thought he should make a separate channel. Would also help with longevity if one got shadowbanned
It’s not going to do them any harm in the long run...
I'm from Egypt and I thought the same thing😅
The point about "enjoying the taste" vs "enjoying the squeals" is amazing!
What if I enjoy the squeals of long pigs but not the taste? Does it go the other way around?
Wonderful job Alex, very calm and logical as usual.
Wayward Winchester donated 5 dollars
@@RahulRaj-vg4jb for vegan gains to twerk
👋
And empathetical
i never thought I'd see you here!! I found out about you after i started watching Supernatural and we are both watching alex👍
Those dudes in the car were sooo cool man. The one on the left knew when Alex gave a good point, and said as much. Respect.
Mate, the change of senses in the analogy is the most compelling argument I have ever heard. I am a meat eater, but bravo sir, hats off.
Only superficially. One sense is necessary for survival, the other is not.
@@RageNukes What? You could have no sense of taste, sight, sound or smell and still "survive" I mean, it would suck, personally if I'm ever turned into a sack of meat, please kill me... Eat me if you must ha ha.
@@trevawho I'm just saying that the argument presupposes that all senses are equivalent and have the same value. But there is little value to draw from hearing an animal scream other than subjective pleasure - which many would regard as immoral - compared to the value drawn from ingesting the creature, which is nutrition, an objective biological need regardless of whether the consumption of animals is necessary or not.
Though looking at it in the context used in the video I suppose it makes sense as an argument for consuming meat solely because of taste. But to get to use this argument you need to be talking to a person who agrees that animal suffering is bad, but that still places more value over their own experience of taste than over the animal's life.
@@RageNukes exactly that, but its not a discussion on the value of senses, its the morality of eating meat. To which, argument that is unnecessary, is pretty much uncontested at this point, besides a few stories I have heard about biological conditions where they have to eat meat, but I don't know how true they are. I was attempting to go vegan the past week, after my birthday, but first trip to the shop and I'm looking at my basket with still nearly 90% of items containing animal products (milk, eggs, fat etc)
this is actually so helpful for every day discussions
He's asking questions to force them to think instead of just asserting arguments. I already knew this tactic was powerful but it is something else when someone as skilled as Alex does it
@@prosperitynuggets I have a question for you.
Is it immoral to eat eggs from home grown free chickens, when the eggs are not fertile.
@@__evidence__in__my__channe5172
Chickens are bred to lay far more eggs than is healthy for them. The only ethical way to have backyard chickens is to give them a shot that stops them from produce eggs. You can also just let them eat the eggs to gain back the nutrients but there still is a lot of other health issues. You can watch Earthing Ed’s video “Why don’t vegans eat backyard eggs?”
@@stop4500 Instead of letting the chickens eat their eggs, what if you take the eggs and instead you'll feed the chickens a very healthy diet and vitamin?
Isn't that moral?
@@__evidence__in__my__channe5172 If that’s possible, it would be more ethical but the hormonal implant that stops them from laying eggs would stop them from all the other health problems. The video explains it better than I can.
I’ve spent a ton of time and energy trying to defend my position for meat eating but i feel like i’ve failed and at some point my views just become inconsistent with my morals. I’ve accepted that eating animals is wrong. I haven’t given up on it yet but i hope to do it soon.
That's the first step! It can be a difficult transition, and you might need to take one step at a time, and that's fine! Sending you support 🖤
I went vegan a few years ago and it’s been such a wonderful experience for me. I wish you the best of luck friend!
It's the first step! Don't feel rushed, try to research what to do, so you'll be successful :)
@@lydiastott9038 Giving up dairy and eggs first is also a good plan, this tends to be the most difficult part
If you're anything like me, you won't regret it. I felt a huge weight off my shoulders. Going vegetarian is a fantastic step, and if you can manage the full vegan plunge it's the single biggest thing you can do as an individual to reduce your negative impact on the planet. Whatever you do, good job looking into the arguments for and against, and good luck!
The stoned guy that mooned everyone is the ⭐️ here
When I went on omegle about 20% were bots and 30% were men 'enjoying themselves.'
I feel like we missed out on the real content lmfao
Why do they go on omegle when they can just go on to a porn website
@@joepapa6329 They want one on one interaction with human females but they are too broke to pay for jerkmate
M or F 🤣🤣🤣
Well atleast they were not on onlyfans
Respect
> asks to change his mind
> procedes to change other person's mind
this had a more interesting cast of characters than most netflix shows lmao
The thing I love most about this: That Alex, who is eloquent and visiting Oxford university, does not act superior in any way, but actually adapts to the way his "opponents" talk, even to the point that he is freestyling 😁
Great point!
lol just because he goes to oxford doesnt mean hes a harry potter character or something.
@@amp4105 Skepticum Carnistea!
@@amp4105 butt hurt much?
Oxford is overrated.
You're doing a TED talk? Details please!!
I read this comment at the same time Alex mentioned it. I’m so excited!
How is this comment 18 hours ago when the video is 1 hour ago?
@@therighteousmind6708 it was probably re-uploaded in order to edit or something
@@therighteousmind6708 funny glitch
@@therighteousmind6708 they might be a patreon and get early access, got to see it before he made it public
Hilarious how some people are so aggressive towards you for being a vegan lmao
Yeahhh and that was the response of like 90% of people only 5 years ago. Things have changed a lot!
@@lexaray5 still crazy vegans around unfortunately
@@Assassin99584 I'm sorry you're feeling lonely enough to attempt to troll someone. There's hope and help out there for you if you need it!
Yeah there's actually peer-reviewed research indicating that vegans experience more discrimination than do LGBTQ+ and many other groups. I believe there was a study titled "It Aint Easy Eating Greens" that indicated that the only group marked lower than the vegan groups was drug addicts ;b
@@ParadymShiftVegan maybe because crazy vegans stick out
It's so weird going back on these old videos after the news. What happened Alex? :(
Now he’s a hypocrite.
What happened?
He's no longer vegan. @@BringBackStoning
That last dude will have a very good conversation with his mom's boyfriend later on. Epic stuff!
"But not his ass please, in video."
And now I am the ded. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"sorry, he's high"
I've been high while I was 21-22 more days than I was sober and I never just showed my ass to a stranger lol
🤣😂🤣😂
honestly they seemed pretty nice though, especially the girl
You blew Zachary’s mind when you said you could just eat plants 😂
Amazing that he'd never though of that when he said he knew someone who'd been vegan for 40 years. How had he managed to not think of it?
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 A lot of people are more stupid than you think. And anyways, most people are intellegent in some areas but so stupid in others that they don't even spend one hour to think about it properly. Myself included of course.
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 Habit.
@@archockencanto1645 it's not a matter of stupidity, it's cognitive bias that's built because our big brains take a lot of energy to function and evolution has given us shortcuts that can sometimes kinda suck actually. Eating meat is very much the default. It doesn't make someone stupid for not fully thinking through the implications of everything society has taught them before being specifically confronted with it.
Plants are alive too. There's no way to prove they don't suffer. Plus some plants are STILL ALIVE on the plate! Way worse than eating animals. I'll stick to free range meats 😀
"Hm. I never thought of it that way" sums up the first 22 meat eating years of my life.
I’m so pumped to watch this 😍
I love this format -- please do more. It potentially reaches more people, imo.
Yes pleaaseee
It's also fucking hilarious, that dude that came in to flash his arse lmao
I have a question for you.
Is it immoral to eat eggs from home grown free chickens, when the eggs are not fertile.
@@__evidence__in__my__channe5172 Look up for "Why don't vegans eat backyard eggs?" by earthling ed
@@malkrenkdizoniro7941 Why? can you tell me please?
The incredible patience of Alex in this video...
I think if you do this kind of thing you've got to be patient. I mean, he's asking for people's views on veganism..
I would’ve blown my brains out with the firsts girls
Hahaha I'm pretty sure the scotch wasn't there just for the ambiance 😂😏
@@infinite1483 yeah they were incredibly frustrating to watch
When the guy comes in and moons him 🤣 barely broke his sentence. Love Alex
Love this socially distant method of talking to people & getting the word out!
OH MY GOD I LOVE THE FRENCH (?) PEOPLE SO MUCH!!!! 😂😂😂 "but not his ass please in video" 😂😂 Mad respect for her carrying a conversation on ethics in a second language!
The intellect of the first girls just shines through, doesn't it?
Like "i am vegan, change my mind" "Dude i am eating a burger rn and chicken nuggets" WOW! you changed my mind! :P
I got wooshed, whoops
@@gedde5703 big whoosh
Northerners eh
@@jamesdettmann94 Now, now... Behave. 😆
Can't wait for your TED talk!
Yeah, I was like, ooooooohhhhh when he said that
"There's nothing in my mind." I like his honesty. 😂
Well, this video didn't age well. Just like my future
The girl with the glasses was so nice.
Edit: And Zachary, didn't reach that part of the video yet.
She strikes me as the kind of person who's already made the decision to go vegan and is transitioning. Mad respect to Zachary tho.
I love how Alex has a great answer to every single question about this subject, and I love the way he is so calm and Collected when he hears nonsense...
*More of these. So effective man. I don't think I've seen so many positive encounters in one outreach session of any kind*
I love the positive energy, you're so calm and friendly, made me smile 🎶☀️
You should do an "I'm an atheist change my mind"
Would love to see
Yes, but veganism seems to be more on his mind these days, since his deconversion from carnism into veganism.
what would be the point of that?
@@bingerasder6466 It would be entertaining.
binger asder same point of this video ??
Next video: I'm an atheist, change my mind
Hat would be so good
Please do that one!
this would be so good, cuz for this video there’s nothing the meat eaters could say to justify their side - but it would be interesting to hear what different religions people think.
make this happen!!
Great idea
Thank you very much.
I'm having a hard time with transitions and changes in my life, so for now i'll only start out as a vegetarian. But I'm glad you make videos like these.
How’s it going?
@@Kasprr Quite well so far. Also cook vegan and avoid animal products from time to time . but still mostly vegetarian thanks to cheese.... it's so damn hard to find good affordable replacement.
You did it in a really kind, friendly and compassionate way
The first two girls made me lose my brain cells so fast I can't even put it into words
I thought becoming vegan would be a lot harder than it was, I think this is what holds back a lot of people
Sameeeee! Because there are so many things you can't eat but then I tried it because of Alex and it was laughingly easy (I live in a big town)
If restaurants and supermarkets had a lot of vegan options then many people would change pretty quickly. Doing your best to stay vegan can mess with your mental health because it brings a lot of stress for being so difficult. If it wasn’t so hard, people wouldn’t be so hard to convince.
It really depends where you are and your circumstances. As a broke student in a pretty shit area, my options aren't exactly brimming so I'm essentially a vegetarian/pescatarian mix but I'll absolutely grab vegan options when I can.
I'm not particularly convinced that the suffering of fish is substantial enough for me to stave off of them but without options like fish, milk, eggs, I legitimately just wouldn't eat on some days. I've tried milk replacements and I find all of them legitimately disgusting. If I come across a decent option then I'll make that change but so far, there's nothing really. Coconut milk was the most palatable so far but eh, I don't think I can stomach that all of the time.
@@888records I’m really not finding it hard at all
@@amarntsitran3406 my diet is primarily noodles and sweet corn. Rice is even cheaper.
“I’m doing a TedTalk soon”
Made my day!
OMG he is so nice and understanding, I love him so much, keep up the amazing work Alex
That rap exchange seemed pretty wholesome tbh
"Bars" lmaooo
didn't expect Alex to come with that multi 😂🔥
Omegle is the number one outreach tool on internet. You can't change my mind. Every vegan TH-camr needs to be on omegle.
well I wouldnt say everyone like any movement aolso the vegan one has its fuck ups that do more harm than good. But otherwise totally agree any reasonable and well manered vegan would be a great asset.
I'm down
OH MY GOD, THOSE EGYPTIANS ❤️
Man, I would be thrilled to find myself talking with you, Alex! These folks were lucky! Love to see people thinking outside of their boxes! Well done!
OMEGLE VIDS that was unexpected but rad
Holy shit! I never knew you watch Cosmic Skeptic! Love your videos, man!
Ye
This needs to be a series.
Alex, more of this please! Loved that last guy btw, got a good gut feeling from him.
this was really refreshing, 100% down for more content like this if you ever feel so compelled
6:33 I think you blew their minds 🤯
There is a rebuttal to the comparison of senses, it's a bit obvious if you think about it.
Each sense exists to convey information. The tortured screams of an animal will convey information that pain is being experienced by an animal. Their cooked flesh when perceived by our nose and tongue will only convey taste flavour information.
Going purely by the data conveyed by each sense we have on one hand knowledge that something is experiencing pain, on the other we have information about taste and flavour.
Deciphering this information from the signals sent by the senses is a primal part of our brains, as is the response. We are hard wired to respond negatively to screaming and positively to deliciousness.
Kinda nitpicky because his message is clear enough regardless. Still, a possible response :D
that's a great name
@@alekz112 Although this argument convince a lot of people, it does not make sense. If a person like the taste of an animal, they pay to experience pleasure, not for the animal to suffer. The comparison with sound is misguided because the person would be directly paying for suffering and pain of the screaming animal.
@@Joel-pl6lh not exactly, if they like it they are paying for pleasure, just like the way you don't like the taste of sertain things and you like others.
@@alekz112 it's not a rebuttal for the comparison, it's why people aren't becoming vegan.
I'm surprised at how wholesome this was. Sure it was edited and maybe a lot of horrid people were skipped over, but still Zachary and the guy in the car, really good stuff. I'd love to see more of this.
yeah I was expecting people to get super angry and insult him
We need more TH-cams like you, I will also give it a try for 1 month. Thanks for awareness
A good idea well executed, thank you as always Alex for adapting and delivering easy prep vids when busy with uni
Shout out to Zachary if you see this comment! It's great to see someone so open-minded and willing to discuss these ideas! I hope you go vegan as well as continue to learn!
Please, Alex. Do more things like this! I love to see your human side
Superb content Alex, I have watched all of your videos for quite a. few years and have to say that the genuine attempts to connect on a human level with others is what really makes you stand out, keep it up!
May there be more people in the world like the last guy. Legend, so open minded. Thanks Alex as always.
Brilliant idea! Omegle offers a fantastic opportunity for vegan outreach and discussion, especially during lockdown :)
I think I should be doing this too. It's fun too.
Never heard of Omegle before.
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 It's cool. On omegle, you can connect to strangers from all around the world through video call.
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 yup, the comment above mine is a good description of the website.
be wary of seeing the occasional genitals on camera though!
I never seen Alex smile and laugh so much. 😊💙
Why are people so rude? You're engaging and teaching in a fun manner, and that's so cool.
Please do more of this I am pretty sure everyone would love to see this again ☺️
Top quality activism. Keep it up, Alex!
I love how open and friendly strangers can be. Well done!
This was sooo good! I hope you do this again. So many lovely and open minded people as well, which was nice to see
OMG PLEASE MAKE A PLAYLIST OF THESE VIDEOS 👏
11:05 dude really said “swear to god” to cosmic skeptic😂
Not a hard thing for him to swear on lmao
Sometimes it's just a generic expression. I don't believe in god but I might say that anyway just in a colloquial way
@@7Be Yeah I say it all the time. And I say oh my God, God damn it, etc.
@@7Be yeh I'm pretty sure everyone knows that
I am so incredibly looking forward to that Ted-Talk.
That was bloody awesome! We need more of this Alex!! Great work dude!! 🌱
Honestly, I loved watching every second of this! please make more!
This is quality. Informative, intriguing and so much fun to watch!
the moment Zachary mentioned world hunger and Alex's eyes just lit up like "aight, imma let you say your bit and then we going straight to truth town" *chef's kiss*
This is absolutely awesome, please do more of these!
Please do more of these! I'd love to see different topics!
Please make this a regular part of your channel. I absolutely loved it!
Awesome. I'm member of a popular vegan activist discord server called "Animal Rights Advocates". We do all kinds of activism, like debates on discord voice chats, going to other discords, in VR Chat and a little Omegle as well. Alex, if you're interested you can join and we could do vegan outreach or activism there. The members and admins are quite cool
Can you link it? I’m interested
@@seraphim-kpopdreamcorpsear5255 how so?
@@seraphim-kpopdreamcorpsear5255 Fuck off.
@@seraphim-kpopdreamcorpsear5255 cool nick. Not cringe at all.
Massive props to all these people willing to have a conversation! :D great video
I’ve found this to be the most compelling and persuasive format to encourage change, for callers and listeners alike.
The notion that vegans don’t eat meat because they don’t like the taste of it is comparable to the idea the Jesus walked on water because he didn’t like swimming
Maybe he didn't like swimming. Remember how hard he prayed to keep that boat afloat? brrr
What a great idea! Unless there's some cost I haven't realized, this seems like a relatively easy video to produce as well, so that's a bonus for Alex. I'd love to see more!
Alex this new video concept is pure gold!! THANK YOU!!! 👌🏼❣️😄💚🙏🏼
It is insane that you actually convinced someone on Omegle. Props to you man!
I bet he regrets his proselytising now
@@tomlauriswhy?
@@BringBackStoning Because it didn't work so well for himself, did it? And he's to be held responsible for other people ruining their health as well because they listened to him.
@@tomlauris Can you refer me to what you’re talking about because I really don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@BringBackStoning He's no longer vegan because of health reasons, just like all the other ex-vegans out there who thought they could make the vegan diet work. Look up the countless "why I'm no longer vegan" videos out there. He's lucky he hasn't been sued yet for misleading people.
Do more of these! Do the same with “I’m an atheist, change my mind”
How tf has no one thought of this? Brilliant
@Iron Gamer do you have a link to the original?
Amazing video man! I normally have to prep myself to be angry for the rest of the day after watching these, but it was refreshing to see some genuine, meaningful, and most of all, civil, debate
The sense analogy is awesome. Never heard it before but really good. Will try to include it in my outreach.
That was a really amazing video. Made me very happy. I’m so glad that you actually convinced someone to try being vegan for a week! I’ve been vegetarian for most my life, and I’ve been vegan for about 3 months, thanks in part to your channel. It’s really amazing how you have spread veganism through logical arguments.