i mean i only joined battlefield recently, so i am not too well informed, but i would say the Krag joergensen, M3 infared, Type 11 and the liberator from BFV
I know this video is meant to talk about primaries, but when ever you decide to make this same sort of video about secondaries, you should include the peacemaker, as it is one of the best guns in the entire game.
The M1909 Benét-Mercie is certainly one for me. That's one that also looks like something straight out of Fallout or Metro, with it being a machinegun that just feeds (or kind of chews through) a flat belt of bullets.
I'd recommend watching the C&Rsenal video on the Benet-Mercie. Besides having an interesting history, the thing is an engineering marvel, and a production headache. It's like they started designing the gun and didn't stop.
Fun bit of trivia about the Hellreigel; the massive magazines and the water cooling sleeve were because the weapon was designed as a stationary defensive weapon in a similar vein to a light machine-gun. Keeping in mind that submachine-guns were used as effective trench-clearing weapons, the Hellreigel was designed to basically be a very handy way of defending trenches; it's not unimaginable to picture a small handful of these weapons killing entire infantry sections as they approached because it would have been lighter and more maneuverable than a machine-gun, despite its heavy weight, and because of its small cartridge it would have barely moved when firing. It's one of those really clever concepts that just didn't have a chance to get off of the ground because it came too late in the war, but I think the Hellreigel fits the sort of philosophy where sometimes you need a gun that doesn't excel at many applications, but you need one that can excel at one that nothing else can. It's why GIGN snipers have revolvers with bipods and high-powered optics for setting up in compact indoor areas where precision is essential, but a rifle would be too big and unwieldy.
The Hellriegel didn’t come late in the war. The only photos of it are from 1915. It didn’t get off the ground likely because it didn’t work particularly well, which can be inferred by the lack of information about it besides a handful of pictures and one or two documents with only basic information about it confirming its existence.
@@KrisHandsome It could be a number of things that stopped it from going further through development. Kind of a shame since it's a very interesting firearm.
Groza 1 is 4 shot kill with 725 rpm and 30 round mag compared to the other 4 shot kill weapons like ASVAL, GROZA 4, SCAR H, UMP 45 ect. Really underrated with the only downside too me being high upwards recoil
The Liu rifle was pretty much everything I wanted in a BF1 medic rifle. Semi auto for close range and a holt action mode for longer ranges. Unfortunately I wasn't a fan of BF1 at the time, so I didn't get any of its DLC.
Didn’t watch the full video yet but smg 08/18 Henry Martini isn’t weird but unique to a bf game Perino lmg with the bullet racks or whatever they are called Seblstlader 1906. It was like if you made a Luger into a rifle Sjorgen shotgun. Again a unique and interesting gun Other various gun. Or actually most guns in bf1 other than 1911, BAR, gewehr 98 and some others
One of the reasons I enjoy Battlefield 1 so much is because of all the strange weapons it has that I had never heard of before playing it. Like I grew up playing shooters set in World War 2 and in modern times. So I was well familiar with M1 Garands, MP-40s, M-16s, and AKs. But until BF1 I had never heard of the Hellriegel, or the Lebel Rifle, or Mars Automatic Pistol (Victorian Deagle FTW), or the Hotchkiss M1909 Benét-Mercié light machine gun. It helped expand both my knowledge and love of firearms, and just for that I'm glad I played it.
The reason BF1 has so many strange and interesting weapons is because WWI/ The Great War was the pinnacle of firearms technology development. There were needs for unique and niche weapons for specific situations and manufacturers were trying to meet those requirements, but also keep the production cheap and quality high.
I feel like either the Sjogren Interial or UTS-15 deserved the 1887's place on this list. The Sjorgren just looks like a prototype shotgun in general while the UTS has probably one of the weirdest reload animations in my opinion. The 1887 isn't really that unusual outside of the setting BFH was in.
Well the SMG 08 actually does have a history now. It's called the Schwarzlose submachine gun, and it is a German prototype: imgur.com/a/nJ4OOGZ Still, you are right that there still isn't much else known about it.
The burton LMR was one of my favorite weapons in battlefield 1, it was decently powerful, had a good rate of fire and great range. The two magazines also offered quick reloads as opposed to other LMG's....that and I just thought it looked pretty cool
I main the burton on support. Mastering the recoil makes this gun a laserbeam at longer ranges, and since nobody uses it, people are left shocked at how fast they die from what looks like a wired rifle
@@henrymartinvo I dunno, the RSC SMG is where I personally draw the line between "This weapon is hard to use, but the results are quite amazing" and "I am a masochist in every inch and way and need to show this to everyone". I like a challenging weapon, too, like the Selbstlader M1906 or the Trench Carbine 1917, but the RSC SMG has waaaay too many weaknesses to make it even remotely fun: brutal recoil, painfully slow reload, very small clip capacity and a snoozing RoF. Hell, even the freaking Kolibri I find it more useful than that thing. I mean, at least you know from the get-go what to expect from that tiny pistol.
@@Antimanele104 definitely agree, no matter how skilled you were, the small mag size, long reload, poor accuracy beyond mid range really hampered how good you good get by recoil control and picking fights. Still a fun gun though: who doesn't like a Chauchat SMG?
Too bad faster reloading couldn't be one of your class perks. One of the main reasons I hated the RSC SMG was from the constant reloading. Definitely run a pistol you're good with if you use the RSC.
@@awrybowtie5591 I went 66-1 on Amiens with the RSC SMG, it's actually my most used SMG in the game. It rewards a very specific hit and reposition type play style that only really works on maps with lots areas that have limited los in close quarters areas like Amiens, Argonne Forest. Basically just maps that allow you to kill and enemy then quickly make enemies lose line of sight of you and allow you to reposition to a different cqb area to attack again. It's a very high skill weapon, and the recoil really that bad especially if you're a seasoned PUBG player who knows what it's like to use 7.62 AR's with 6x scopes. The recoil on the RSC is a walk in the park compared to those guns.
I think the Howell Rifle from Bf1 could also have made the list, just for the amount of stuff that had to be added to the gun in order to protect the users hands and face while firing that thing. (Also the idea to have a rail to lead the bold of a bolt action rifle in order to make it a SLR is pretty interesting) A truly unique and experimental weapon indeed.
Diddermis Well a Bow isn't really a weird weapon. The video is to show off weapons that are weird in real life that were implemented into battlefield games.
my take of honorary wack guns is AN-94, this gun has been designed with complex internal to burst 2 shot in fraction of seconds, the recoil of second shot is not felt
It's a literal chain gun,with a chain and pulley system to move a second bolt inside the main bolt to fire that second shot,it's literally "ayy bro,I head you like bolts,so I put a bolt in your bolt so you can shoot while you shoot
Pretty much anything with an odd magazine or with a mag going in the top could make the list. Chauchat, Madsen, and so on. Also, anything water-cooled is strange, yet very neat
Funny how 2 of BF1's strangest/rarest WW1 weapons are 2 of the most popular and OP guns in the game The SMG 08 was fine the way it was before the rpm change, and gave the assault class a unique ranged option that didn't require any use of a bipod, unlike the unique Ribeyrolles, which does. Now it's just a better Hellriegel (which is still considered OP)
5:30 People today carry Smith and Wesson and Colt swing-out cylinder revolvers , which they first offered in 1899 and 1889 .Some also carry replicas of the 1873 SAA , they use Lever-Actions , Bolt-Actions ( Most of them all with the actions completely unchanged ) and more .The first pump-action shotgun was produced in 1885 .The Stryker fire action was first put on a pistol in 1907 . Do not ask why an old weapon is still around , ask how are they still usable and capable of doing their job .
French tanker: so what gun do I use if I have leave the tank? General: you will use a smg that shoots rifle rounds and takes an eternity to reload. O and the irons are terrible French tanker: and I thought russia was undersupplied
The "SMG 08/18" was created by (presumably) Andreas Wilhelm Schwarzlose. One of his family members, Wilhelm Schwarzlose, patented the use of an entrenchment tool connected to the gun's "pintle mount" as a fire stabilizer (monopod/bipod). The feed mechanism was actually invented back in 1904, originally intended for use with a "Pom-Pom" style autocannon, by Hermann Lehmann under Friedrich Krupp AG. So, the "SMG 08/18" is mostly a scaled-down version of that.
So, fun note on water cooling... It's obsolete, sure, but it's also *insanely* efficient. If you can keep a steady stream of water to cool a machine gun barrel, you can fire the weapon indefinitely. John Browning tested this when he was designing the M1919 machine gun by firing 10,000 rounds *continuously* for the demonstration to the military. I can't find an exact source, but he basically sat there for several hours firing this heavy machine gun in full-auto, just to prove it's reliability.
Interesting fact about the hellriegel irl; there are currently no remaining ones in existence today. If someone out there does have one, or even parts of one, they have it hidden very well.
That's why I love bf1 sooo much because it didn't give a flying fuck about obscure weapons and had weapons like the hellregeil which only has a couple pictures to confirm it's existence
Most people don't care that much about the looks of a gun, more about how they perform. As long it doesn't block half my screen with a huge scope or big magazine I'm fine with whatever depending on if it's a close combat map of open sections.
The SMG08 was a scaled-down version of the MG08/15 chambered down to the 9mm round and saw extremely limited use on the western front in the german army.
Fun fact, the Groza has a semi-relative made by some dude named Korobov, who had a history of making Groza-esque bullpup assault rifles sporting the typical TKB-*** naming scheme. He made one that was a triple barrel assault rifle, had a triple magazine, three barrels side by side. That Korobov dude was freaking crazy man. Made some ugly ass guns, but hey, he had imagination, so I can't fault him. I've drawn up some odd gun designs before, like a pistol that functioned almost identically to an SKS or a revolver with six detached barrels and a Webley style reloading mechanism, plus an 11mm handheld caseless rifle. I'll get back to you if I actually manage a prototype ;)
A bit surprised you didn't mention the MK3A1 Pancor Jackhammer shotgun from BF2/BF3. That one is a doozy and it would make a very good replacement for the PP 2000.
Interesting that you picked the Schwarzlose SMG as number #1, I know of only 2 in the world One that is held in possession of the weapon design department at Tula State University in Russia And the other I’m unaware of it’s location , how do I know it’s name you ask? well it appears in a 1902 patent for its Spade attachment and the finished product in 1920. The guns first appearance in 1902 was by wilhelm schwarzlose son of Andreas S maker of the schwarzlose MG. Interestingly enough they are AustroHungarian
I consider the federov Avtomat to be an automatic rifle like the ww1 era BAR ie a large rifle caliber mag fed selectfire rifle that was mainly meant to be fired in full auto from the shoulder or hip
The m3 infrared isnt a infrare sight it is actually a night vision scope. It was expensive so only the special forces were allowed to use it yet many decided not to as it was big and at night it would give off this really big green target that anyone can see at night giving you away.
It's surprising how people lack creativity to solve the greenhouse effect, but it's more surprising how creative people get to make a new gun to ruin someone's day..
I gotta say Kris. This list was both a tiny bit predictable but very unexpected but a great list nontheless. I did not expect the PP-2000 at all. As for your honourable metions, I get the AS VAL & FMG-9 but why the Type 2A & the Howell Automatic? I can't wait to see more.
the howell automatic is weird as shit! it's a Lee Enfield bolt action rifle with a huge steampunk rig crappily rigged onto the rifle that attaches a goddamn piston on the outside of the gun that literally manually operates the bolt of the gun like a robot hand attachment with the help of an aftermarket gas tube drilled and fitted onto an otherwise perfectly fine rifle
Dunno if you were serious about how you don't know how the Degtyarev made it into bf1, but it was a preorder weapon for bf5. All of them were post-war weapons. You probably knew that already though
@@KriticalKris if I were doing it, I would've given the Assault the Winchester 1887, Medic the Frommer Automatic Rifle, Support the Lewis Automatic Rifle, Scout the Remington Rolling Block, and the pistol the Webley Self-Loading Pistol. All guns from the proper time period
Reminder that we only have 3 pictures ( Which I despise ) as evidence that a single Hellriegel ever existed . Battlefield 1 was a disaster , weapon-wise .
Actually, 1887 makes 100% total sense to be in BF:H. Illegal weapons are very often ancient, at least outside of US. Actually, even police in some South American countries use fricking Bren guns and alike.. Looks so ridiculous, a WW1 LMG shortened and used by a fully-equipped modern police man.. Must be a pretty good weapon if they trust it with their lives in CQC drug raids.
How dare you to say the RSC SMG is bad? Now I'm gonna cry in the corner. Ok, jokes apart, I love that gun, but everybody hate it, so... guess it's just me?
Anyone who has the notion that the fedorov avtomat is an assault rifle should forget about it, its not an assault rifle. Its as much of an assault rifle as the BAR was.
the BAR fires a full rifle cartridge whereas the Fedorov Avtomat fired the 6.5 Arisaka which was much closer to what we would consider an intermediate cartridge like those we see in Assault Rifles Assault Rifles are generally defined by their select fire capability i.e. repeating rifles capable of full auto, firing an intermediate cartridge i.e. something that is somewhere between a pistol cartridge like a 9x19mm and a rifle cartridge like the 7.92mm Mauser or the American 30-06 (7.62x63), and the 6.5x50 Arisaka is definitely closer to a modern intermediate cartridge in that respect, and their ability to be fired from the shoulder, which the Fedorov Avtomat would reasonably be much more capable of due to its weaker cartridge and significantly lower weight (under 5 kilograms whereas the BAR could be between 7 and 11 kilograms) it's not quite an assault rifle yet but it's definitely closer to the concept than the BAR or anything that came before. The one other gun from the era that comes close to the Assault Rifle concept is the Ribeyrolles 1918, by virtue of it's automatic capability and it's cartridge that is a very close fit to the intermediate cartridge definition, being an 8x33mm
@@MarieAvora while I do agree that it is closer to the assault rife concept I still say that is more of an automatic rifle, similar to the chauchat or the original pattern BAR from ww1. And yes I know that 6.5 arisaka is closer than 30-06 or 8mil label, but I wouldn't regard it as an intermediate cartridge by modern standards. Given the era it was designed and manufactured I would argue that it wasn't intended to be used with the same doctrine that assault rifles are used today. In the short time it was used in the field it was more than likely used like an automatic rifle like the bar or the chauchat or like a light machine gun similar to the madsen or the Lewis gun.
Where is Howell Automatic from BF1? It's just a freakin' steampunk gun on ww1 battlefield! Upd. Nah, nevermind, it was in honourable mentions. But y not in the list?
Actualy that the helriger wasnt the only water colled wepon isnt right the Maxim hmg wasnt water cooled too and saw wied usuage ib russia and France too
the AKs 74u was a carbine variation of the aks-74 you got to realize that that was made the 74u was made in the 1970s as a matter of fact it was based off the avtomat Kalashnikov model of 1974 it was not based off the AK-47 is based off the AK-74 it's simple fact buddy the Burton LMR was designed practically for the use on an aircraft and if your aircraft crashed you could then proceed to use it as an infantry weapon trying to get back to your own lines hence why I had the bayonet lug
Those flying ragdolls though 😂 what are your strangest Battlefield primaries?
i mean i only joined battlefield recently, so i am not too well informed, but i would say the Krag joergensen, M3 infared, Type 11 and the liberator from BFV
I really love the Martini henry rifle, a-8s & m3 infared but i don't usually play battlefield but i love the battlefield series
I know this video is meant to talk about primaries, but when ever you decide to make this same sort of video about secondaries, you should include the peacemaker, as it is one of the best guns in the entire game.
Shotguns with bayonet attached looked weird to me
Already made that video dude
The M1909 Benét-Mercie is certainly one for me. That's one that also looks like something straight out of Fallout or Metro, with it being a machinegun that just feeds (or kind of chews through) a flat belt of bullets.
Amazing enough... it was quite a common weapon for the French military during the war.
Most people know it as the Hotchkiss machine gun.
Well the Bastard Gun from Metro looks realy familiar
I'd recommend watching the C&Rsenal video on the Benet-Mercie. Besides having an interesting history, the thing is an engineering marvel, and a production headache. It's like they started designing the gun and didn't stop.
Fun bit of trivia about the Hellreigel; the massive magazines and the water cooling sleeve were because the weapon was designed as a stationary defensive weapon in a similar vein to a light machine-gun. Keeping in mind that submachine-guns were used as effective trench-clearing weapons, the Hellreigel was designed to basically be a very handy way of defending trenches; it's not unimaginable to picture a small handful of these weapons killing entire infantry sections as they approached because it would have been lighter and more maneuverable than a machine-gun, despite its heavy weight, and because of its small cartridge it would have barely moved when firing.
It's one of those really clever concepts that just didn't have a chance to get off of the ground because it came too late in the war, but I think the Hellreigel fits the sort of philosophy where sometimes you need a gun that doesn't excel at many applications, but you need one that can excel at one that nothing else can. It's why GIGN snipers have revolvers with bipods and high-powered optics for setting up in compact indoor areas where precision is essential, but a rifle would be too big and unwieldy.
Yeah, but the burton lmg is honestly cooler just bc it is the only game period with that gun, that is an actual real life gun.
The Hellriegel didn’t come late in the war. The only photos of it are from 1915. It didn’t get off the ground likely because it didn’t work particularly well, which can be inferred by the lack of information about it besides a handful of pictures and one or two documents with only basic information about it confirming its existence.
@@KrisHandsome It could be a number of things that stopped it from going further through development. Kind of a shame since it's a very interesting firearm.
There is no way to know that
For the Stg44 was also made a nightvision-scope called the "Vampir" and the Mg45 got also use it.
Sorry for my English, I'm from Germany
Your English is great relax.
Yeah it’s fine
my grandpa had stg44 and a wired looking jacket it look cool but i dont now how he got them.
I'm american and i hate english
@@konradsmith7904 The English language is basically a Frankenstein of German, French, Nordic, Latin and Greek.
The pp-2000 is amazing, 40 bullets, no recoil, good damage dropoff, it's a beast
And a incredible velocity and nice 90°, wide but not to flaccid
Pepee 2000
Groza 1 is 4 shot kill with 725 rpm and 30 round mag compared to the other 4 shot kill weapons like ASVAL, GROZA 4, SCAR H, UMP 45 ect. Really underrated with the only downside too me being high upwards recoil
I use it all the time, it is a beast my friend
I play it as primary
I love how half of these guns are from bf1.
Exactly, back when people were still learning to make non-bolt action guns and new ways to feed ammo to them.
Yep. That's because WW1 had more experimental firearms than in any war in history.
Look, I prefer BF, but honestly the 1887 of CoD was better lol. About weirdest weapon... General Liu
I love the general liu in bf1 so much
The Liu rifle was pretty much everything I wanted in a BF1 medic rifle. Semi auto for close range and a holt action mode for longer ranges. Unfortunately I wasn't a fan of BF1 at the time, so I didn't get any of its DLC.
@@dillonc7955 idk what you play on, but on xbox theres a deal going on rn where you can get premium (all dlc) for just $9
It's a very fasinating rifle
Didn’t watch the full video yet but smg 08/18
Henry Martini isn’t weird but unique to a bf game
Perino lmg with the bullet racks or whatever they are called
Seblstlader 1906. It was like if you made a Luger into a rifle
Sjorgen shotgun. Again a unique and interesting gun
Other various gun. Or actually most guns in bf1 other than 1911, BAR, gewehr 98 and some others
One of the reasons I enjoy Battlefield 1 so much is because of all the strange weapons it has that I had never heard of before playing it.
Like I grew up playing shooters set in World War 2 and in modern times. So I was well familiar with M1 Garands, MP-40s, M-16s, and AKs.
But until BF1 I had never heard of the Hellriegel, or the Lebel Rifle, or Mars Automatic Pistol (Victorian Deagle FTW), or the Hotchkiss M1909 Benét-Mercié light machine gun. It helped expand both my knowledge and love of firearms, and just for that I'm glad I played it.
The reason BF1 has so many strange and interesting weapons is because WWI/ The Great War was the pinnacle of firearms technology development. There were needs for unique and niche weapons for specific situations and manufacturers were trying to meet those requirements, but also keep the production cheap and quality high.
I feel like either the Sjogren Interial or UTS-15 deserved the 1887's place on this list. The Sjorgren just looks like a prototype shotgun in general while the UTS has probably one of the weirdest reload animations in my opinion. The 1887 isn't really that unusual outside of the setting BFH was in.
Well the SMG 08 actually does have a history now. It's called the Schwarzlose submachine gun, and it is a German prototype: imgur.com/a/nJ4OOGZ
Still, you are right that there still isn't much else known about it.
Thats cool, but I thought Schwarzlose was an Austrian gun manufacturer
It can also over heat
@@jakehammond7491 well yeah it makes sense to me
The burton LMR was one of my favorite weapons in battlefield 1, it was decently powerful, had a good rate of fire and great range. The two magazines also offered quick reloads as opposed to other LMG's....that and I just thought it looked pretty cool
I main the burton on support. Mastering the recoil makes this gun a laserbeam at longer ranges, and since nobody uses it, people are left shocked at how fast they die from what looks like a wired rifle
SMG08 wasn't too wierd to me. The RSC SMG was though. Fun for a challenge run and all but not too useful. So many better options
RSC SMG is a true skillcannon; practically a mini slr with quick close quarters ttk
@@henrymartinvo I dunno, the RSC SMG is where I personally draw the line between "This weapon is hard to use, but the results are quite amazing" and "I am a masochist in every inch and way and need to show this to everyone".
I like a challenging weapon, too, like the Selbstlader M1906 or the Trench Carbine 1917, but the RSC SMG has waaaay too many weaknesses to make it even remotely fun: brutal recoil, painfully slow reload, very small clip capacity and a snoozing RoF.
Hell, even the freaking Kolibri I find it more useful than that thing. I mean, at least you know from the get-go what to expect from that tiny pistol.
@@Antimanele104 definitely agree, no matter how skilled you were, the small mag size, long reload, poor accuracy beyond mid range really hampered how good you good get by recoil control and picking fights. Still a fun gun though: who doesn't like a Chauchat SMG?
Too bad faster reloading couldn't be one of your class perks. One of the main reasons I hated the RSC SMG was from the constant reloading. Definitely run a pistol you're good with if you use the RSC.
@@awrybowtie5591 I went 66-1 on Amiens with the RSC SMG, it's actually my most used SMG in the game. It rewards a very specific hit and reposition type play style that only really works on maps with lots areas that have limited los in close quarters areas like Amiens, Argonne Forest. Basically just maps that allow you to kill and enemy then quickly make enemies lose line of sight of you and allow you to reposition to a different cqb area to attack again. It's a very high skill weapon, and the recoil really that bad especially if you're a seasoned PUBG player who knows what it's like to use 7.62 AR's with 6x scopes. The recoil on the RSC is a walk in the park compared to those guns.
I think the Howell Rifle from Bf1 could also have made the list, just for the amount of stuff that had to be added to the gun in order to protect the users hands and face while firing that thing. (Also the idea to have a rail to lead the bold of a bolt action rifle in order to make it a SLR is pretty interesting) A truly unique and experimental weapon indeed.
It got a well deserved honorable mention
I’m surprised the kolibri wasn’t number one tbh.
Kolibri was a primary?
Ian Parrish it was a trolls primary weapon lol
He featured it in the last video and it's also a secondary weapon.
Kolibri was a secondary and was indeed featured in the video about strangest secondaries!
Kolibri isnt primary
BRO I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND VOICE, when i started playing bf1 i would watch your weapons vids so much for info, so much nostalgia
I just love the battlefield franchise!🍺😊
Yea they been putting out fun quality games except bf5
@@pepperachu BFV was a fun game tbh for me
pepperachu bf5 was still playable
I’m surprised that the phantom bow or whatever that bow in BF4 was called wasn’t on the list
Diddermis Well a Bow isn't really a weird weapon. The video is to show off weapons that are weird in real life that were implemented into battlefield games.
7:54 the AKS74U is a carbine version of the AK74, it's in the name
Came here to say the same thing, they are completely different calibers
@@masonjames6628 the AK-47 and the AK-74 are quite literally the same gun but with different calibers.
my take of honorary wack guns is AN-94, this gun has been designed with complex internal to burst 2 shot in fraction of seconds, the recoil of second shot is not felt
And the strange angled magazine. Can't forget that.
It's a literal chain gun,with a chain and pulley system to move a second bolt inside the main bolt to fire that second shot,it's literally "ayy bro,I head you like bolts,so I put a bolt in your bolt so you can shoot while you shoot
Pretty much anything with an odd magazine or with a mag going in the top could make the list. Chauchat, Madsen, and so on. Also, anything water-cooled is strange, yet very neat
Funny how 2 of BF1's strangest/rarest WW1 weapons are 2 of the most popular and OP guns in the game
The SMG 08 was fine the way it was before the rpm change, and gave the assault class a unique ranged option that didn't require any use of a bipod, unlike the unique Ribeyrolles, which does. Now it's just a better Hellriegel (which is still considered OP)
5:30 People today carry Smith and Wesson and Colt swing-out cylinder revolvers , which they first offered in 1899 and 1889 .Some also carry replicas of the 1873 SAA , they use Lever-Actions , Bolt-Actions ( Most of them all with the actions completely unchanged ) and more .The first pump-action shotgun was produced in 1885 .The Stryker fire action was first put on a pistol in 1907 .
Do not ask why an old weapon is still around , ask how are they still usable and capable of doing their job .
My favourite bit about bf1 execpt for the ww1 setting is just seeing the strange and weird guns
The mammoth gun in Hardline looks like a triple barreled shotgun but was actually a rifle
Hardline also has a sawed-off lewis gun
French tanker: so what gun do I use if I have leave the tank?
General: you will use a smg that shoots rifle rounds and takes an eternity to reload. O and the irons are terrible
French tanker: and I thought russia was undersupplied
More like: you will use a killing machine that is worth it for the reload time and if you can actually hit your shots it's powerful
The "SMG 08/18" was created by (presumably) Andreas Wilhelm Schwarzlose. One of his family members, Wilhelm Schwarzlose, patented the use of an entrenchment tool connected to the gun's "pintle mount" as a fire stabilizer (monopod/bipod). The feed mechanism was actually invented back in 1904, originally intended for use with a "Pom-Pom" style autocannon, by Hermann Lehmann under Friedrich Krupp AG. So, the "SMG 08/18" is mostly a scaled-down version of that.
A-8S I never played hardline and used , but man that looks like fun. Always liked the crossbow in black ops with the thermal site.
I wish we could see the groza 1 in more multiplayer FPS games
2.5 Years later, and I still can't forgive DICE for making the SMG 08 rapid fire and taking away the thing that made it the most unique.
Really great video. Although you could’ve populated the entire list with BF1 weapons.
i cant belive you dont have at least 5 mil subs
Never thought I’d be seeing this video anytime soon...
M1903 experimental from bf1 was amazing it was a bolt action rifle and if you press a button it turns into a pistol caliber carbine
Where's the phantom bow?
I was expecting the bow and arrow from BF4
So, fun note on water cooling...
It's obsolete, sure, but it's also *insanely* efficient. If you can keep a steady stream of water to cool a machine gun barrel, you can fire the weapon indefinitely. John Browning tested this when he was designing the M1919 machine gun by firing 10,000 rounds *continuously* for the demonstration to the military. I can't find an exact source, but he basically sat there for several hours firing this heavy machine gun in full-auto, just to prove it's reliability.
Nice video Kris
Interesting fact about the hellriegel irl; there are currently no remaining ones in existence today. If someone out there does have one, or even parts of one, they have it hidden very well.
That's why I love bf1 sooo much because it didn't give a flying fuck about obscure weapons and had weapons like the hellregeil which only has a couple pictures to confirm it's existence
I love the Burton lmr. Fun to use, easy points too
CBJ-MS is weirder than the PP2k
Most people don't care that much about the looks of a gun, more about how they perform.
As long it doesn't block half my screen with a huge scope or big magazine I'm fine with whatever depending on if it's a close combat map of open sections.
I think I would’ve made the list a lil bigger, and definitely included the Carcano M28 con Tromboncino, Mammoth Gun, Syndicate Gun, and many others.
Worth noting, the M3's night vision scope (no 4 on the list) wasn't developed until just before the outbreak of the Korean war.
The PP-2000 looks like the LS12 SMG from the killzone series
The SMG08 was a scaled-down version of the MG08/15 chambered down to the 9mm round and saw extremely limited use on the western front in the german army.
11:30 The M3 Infrared was designed to be used to defend FOBs at night.
Fun fact, the Groza has a semi-relative made by some dude named Korobov, who had a history of making Groza-esque bullpup assault rifles sporting the typical TKB-*** naming scheme. He made one that was a triple barrel assault rifle, had a triple magazine, three barrels side by side. That Korobov dude was freaking crazy man. Made some ugly ass guns, but hey, he had imagination, so I can't fault him. I've drawn up some odd gun designs before, like a pistol that functioned almost identically to an SKS or a revolver with six detached barrels and a Webley style reloading mechanism, plus an 11mm handheld caseless rifle.
I'll get back to you if I actually manage a prototype ;)
Planes farming Infantry
me: Burton goes brrrrrr
A bit surprised you didn't mention the MK3A1 Pancor Jackhammer shotgun from BF2/BF3.
That one is a doozy and it would make a very good replacement for the PP 2000.
9:10 (what does LMR mean?)
(light machine run)
(wha...)
(RUN)
Interesting that you picked the Schwarzlose SMG as number #1, I know of only 2 in the world One that is held in possession of the weapon design department at Tula State University in Russia And the other I’m unaware of it’s location , how do I know it’s name you ask? well it appears in a 1902 patent for its Spade attachment and the finished product in 1920.
The guns first appearance in 1902 was by wilhelm schwarzlose son of Andreas S maker of the schwarzlose MG. Interestingly enough they are AustroHungarian
The SMG 08 is my go to when playing BF1.
I thought the bf1 Howell automatic looked pretty unique but oh well
Dice: why would we add the ottoman mauser to bf1?
Also dice: haha unknown machinegun goes brr
I consider the federov Avtomat to be an automatic rifle like the ww1 era BAR ie a large rifle caliber mag fed selectfire rifle that was mainly meant to be fired in full auto from the shoulder or hip
the smg 08 was a smg version of the parabellum lmg im pretty sure. nice video tho mate ^^
The m3 infrared isnt a infrare sight it is actually a night vision scope. It was expensive so only the special forces were allowed to use it yet many decided not to as it was big and at night it would give off this really big green target that anyone can see at night giving you away.
It's surprising how people lack creativity to solve the greenhouse effect, but it's more surprising how creative people get to make a new gun to ruin someone's day..
you make the best battlefield videos love your content!!!
I would add the perino lmg from bf1
I gotta say Kris. This list was both a tiny bit predictable but very unexpected but a great list nontheless. I did not expect the PP-2000 at all. As for your honourable metions, I get the AS VAL & FMG-9 but why the Type 2A & the Howell Automatic? I can't wait to see more.
the howell automatic is weird as shit! it's a Lee Enfield bolt action rifle with a huge steampunk rig crappily rigged onto the rifle that attaches a goddamn piston on the outside of the gun that literally manually operates the bolt of the gun like a robot hand attachment with the help of an aftermarket gas tube drilled and fitted onto an otherwise perfectly fine rifle
All the guns in bf4 on the list were my most used
How did I know the 08 would be on the list as soon as I saw the title...
In hindsight, the SMG 08/18 could have been influenced by the Fiat-Revelli 1914 MG...
A-91 from bf4 is strange too
The PP-2000 is such a cool weapon
Glaz: *See's PP-2000*
Glaz: Details😏
Where's the Huot? It is basically a bolt action rifle going as a machine gun.
I thought of it as an AA gun for infantry
@@flamingcat1101 nah with such a small magazine I doubt it
@@d-phoenix2198 I mean you are not wrong but it has a similar play to the mg
@@flamingcat1101 fair enough
9:19 talk about timing XD
I mean , considering most of the primary weapons in Battlefield 1 never saw combat in the Great War , that whole game should enter the list .
Make a video on extremely rare sidearms in Battlefield games....
teehee pp-2000
he said pp xD
I expected Kolibri to be there, but I see why not.
All these guns from BF1 and no mention of the Perino? That thing was weird as hell
I’m surprised the villar parossa wasn’t on there
The Perino 1908 should’ve been here
Dunno if you were serious about how you don't know how the Degtyarev made it into bf1, but it was a preorder weapon for bf5. All of them were post-war weapons. You probably knew that already though
Yeah I've got it 😅 but it was made in a different time period to WW1 which BF1 is set in (it probably shouldn't be there really)
@@KriticalKris it really shouldn't. There were other options they couldve put in
@@KriticalKris if I were doing it, I would've given the Assault the Winchester 1887, Medic the Frommer Automatic Rifle, Support the Lewis Automatic Rifle, Scout the Remington Rolling Block, and the pistol the Webley Self-Loading Pistol. All guns from the proper time period
You know he’s a “noob” when he still uses the full barrel and stock on the 1887
Reminder that we only have 3 pictures ( Which I despise ) as evidence that a single Hellriegel ever existed .
Battlefield 1 was a disaster , weapon-wise .
The rsc smg isn't an smg at all. Submachine gun is indicative of the caliber, not the size or packaging. So it's not an smg, it's a carbine.
Actually, 1887 makes 100% total sense to be in BF:H. Illegal weapons are very often ancient, at least outside of US. Actually, even police in some South American countries use fricking Bren guns and alike.. Looks so ridiculous, a WW1 LMG shortened and used by a fully-equipped modern police man.. Must be a pretty good weapon if they trust it with their lives in CQC drug raids.
I miss the F200 from bf4. The damn thing looked like a fish...
Everytime I see the M3 infrared I could cr. Just imagine an Stg 44 with infrared in Berlin fighting the Soviets
Perino 1908, farquhar-hill
Did you know that the 'Burton' was the first Light Machine Gun adopted by the U.S. military?
The RSC SMG it's a Frankeinstein weapon.
Cool as usual 😍😍😍
How dare you to say the RSC SMG is bad? Now I'm gonna cry in the corner. Ok, jokes apart, I love that gun, but everybody hate it, so... guess it's just me?
I thought you will include M1903 Exp
Anyone who has the notion that the fedorov avtomat is an assault rifle should forget about it, its not an assault rifle. Its as much of an assault rifle as the BAR was.
the BAR fires a full rifle cartridge whereas the Fedorov Avtomat fired the 6.5 Arisaka which was much closer to what we would consider an intermediate cartridge like those we see in Assault Rifles
Assault Rifles are generally defined by their select fire capability i.e. repeating rifles capable of full auto, firing an intermediate cartridge i.e. something that is somewhere between a pistol cartridge like a 9x19mm and a rifle cartridge like the 7.92mm Mauser or the American 30-06 (7.62x63), and the 6.5x50 Arisaka is definitely closer to a modern intermediate cartridge in that respect, and their ability to be fired from the shoulder, which the Fedorov Avtomat would reasonably be much more capable of due to its weaker cartridge and significantly lower weight (under 5 kilograms whereas the BAR could be between 7 and 11 kilograms)
it's not quite an assault rifle yet but it's definitely closer to the concept than the BAR or anything that came before. The one other gun from the era that comes close to the Assault Rifle concept is the Ribeyrolles 1918, by virtue of it's automatic capability and it's cartridge that is a very close fit to the intermediate cartridge definition, being an 8x33mm
@@MarieAvora while I do agree that it is closer to the assault rife concept I still say that is more of an automatic rifle, similar to the chauchat or the original pattern BAR from ww1. And yes I know that 6.5 arisaka is closer than 30-06 or 8mil label, but I wouldn't regard it as an intermediate cartridge by modern standards. Given the era it was designed and manufactured I would argue that it wasn't intended to be used with the same doctrine that assault rifles are used today. In the short time it was used in the field it was more than likely used like an automatic rifle like the bar or the chauchat or like a light machine gun similar to the madsen or the Lewis gun.
Where is Howell Automatic from BF1? It's just a freakin' steampunk gun on ww1 battlefield!
Upd. Nah, nevermind, it was in honourable mentions. But y not in the list?
I thought the NS2000 from BC2 was strange
Where the hell is the vacuum cleaner? (BF3) or the NS-2000!? (BC2)
How do you get the federov-degtyrev
pre-order bf5. YOU CAN'T :(
Actualy that the helriger wasnt the only water colled wepon isnt right the Maxim hmg wasnt water cooled too and saw wied usuage ib russia and France too
Nail Gun in hardline
the AKs 74u was a carbine variation of the aks-74 you got to realize that that was made the 74u was made in the 1970s as a matter of fact it was based off the avtomat Kalashnikov model of 1974 it was not based off the AK-47 is based off the AK-74 it's simple fact buddy the Burton LMR was designed practically for the use on an aircraft and if your aircraft crashed you could then proceed to use it as an infantry weapon trying to get back to your own lines hence why I had the bayonet lug
Not gonna lie the Russians did make some wacky looking weapons haha