Muslim learns the quran is illogical

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
  • In this video the man dem ‪@TheBlackDoctor21‬ , ‪@Anandaapologetics‬ , ‪@SIIIG1‬ , and ‪@Thomas.apologia‬ host ‪@GodLogicApologetics‬ for a special UK livestream. A respectful muslim calls in and gives his best reason why he thinks islam is the truth but finds out his reason is illogical.

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  • @_JustReal_215
    @_JustReal_215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    That was a excellent opening question,” what make you want to join Islam?” Its already a cook because gl knows no matter what he says its going to be a lie, because none of their selling points is true, that cult islam is insane and needs to be shut down

    • @emtiedvessel
      @emtiedvessel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts bro. Where I'm from, black people who become Muslim believe that the bible was made by a white man. They look at Islam like a black version of Christianity. Sad

  • @dollahmusa6705
    @dollahmusa6705 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Koran is written by human not from god....

    • @lullaby218
      @lullaby218 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Not only was it written by a human, it was written by a PDF-file who used the book to justify his sick desires.

    • @JackDemoraz-lq4rd
      @JackDemoraz-lq4rd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Satan definitely had an influence, its too theologically fine tuned denying the crucifuxtion.

    • @kashimkhan4513
      @kashimkhan4513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      was the bible not written by man? especially hundreds of years after christ who never even knew them!!

    • @JackDemoraz-lq4rd
      @JackDemoraz-lq4rd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@kashimkhan4513 the Bible is a collection of 66 books, made up by over 40 prophets, collected over 1500 years. Some never knew eachother and lived a 1000 years apart, yet the Lord spoke through them all, to create the interwoven miracle we posses today, whose ultimate author - is God.

    • @ericfarrtman0
      @ericfarrtman0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JackDemoraz-lq4rdbefore you talk out of your anus, put down historical proofs, dont you have a brain

  • @J4MIL
    @J4MIL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Man this podcast was on point. Need a part two

  • @ricardosteen2615
    @ricardosteen2615 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mohammad mehmood looks like the end boss in tekken the video game 😂

  • @tee_saw
    @tee_saw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wheres the vod?

  • @jacobmatthew1909
    @jacobmatthew1909 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    `Come on man, Just show him the quran contradictions.

  • @observerzz
    @observerzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Quran is entirely clear in saying that in it are verses that are basic and fundamental with established meaning which forms the foundation of the Book and also verses that are allegorical, which only Allah knows its true meaning.
    Isn't that very clear????????
    That would be the right context when one verse of the Quran is read in relation with other verses of the Quran.

  • @Atharva1973
    @Atharva1973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Monotheism is illogical or pagan Trinity?

  • @dabenzkiecode90
    @dabenzkiecode90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Islam .. Why can't the horse fly..?? Because it is a miracle of allah ..!! It's unclear because it's a miracle...!!

  • @catherinelynn5073
    @catherinelynn5073 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can't talk to someone like this. You need to speak with someone that has knowledge of the Quran. For the people that are mocking Allah (God) you will have many regrets on the Day of Reckoning. You can laugh all you want but you will not be able to change that on the Day.

    • @allahslittlehelper
      @allahslittlehelper  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catherinelynn5073 idk if youre a woman but are you aware youre gonna be a sex slave in the islamic “heaven” ?

    • @catherinelynn5073
      @catherinelynn5073 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @allahslittlehelper WRONG ! This is what I'm talking about. People that have no knowledge. Keep going the way you're going.

    • @allahslittlehelper
      @allahslittlehelper  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catherinelynn5073 yeah no… your husband will get 72 houris (probably more than 72) and you will get to watch lol. Also if you pass away without a husband one will be assigned to you in jannah…

  • @MrJammat191
    @MrJammat191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Explain the sperm from the women’s rib?

  • @mcfcDJ51
    @mcfcDJ51 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    He’s knows in his heart that’s a contradiction but God bless him man he’s a humble dude.

  • @markLawley-g8u
    @markLawley-g8u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Koran says Jesus was not crucified is the biggest contradiction of all.

    • @sheshahayat5117
      @sheshahayat5117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s the Truth which contradicts the John & Methews lies…

    • @sheshahayat5117
      @sheshahayat5117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s Qura’an. Can’t you read …

    • @AdmiringAstronaut-ep7qk
      @AdmiringAstronaut-ep7qk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quran 3:144 says all the prophet before mohammed has died ...

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Demonstrate Jesus even existed !

    • @AdmiringAstronaut-ep7qk
      @AdmiringAstronaut-ep7qk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gowdsake7103 what year are we in mate?

  • @englishtofrenchchristianap8314
    @englishtofrenchchristianap8314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The Quran is a 'clear' book ... Yet only Allah knows the interpretation of it ... Hmm!
    Please don't laugh, it's not a joke 😅

    • @observerzz
      @observerzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The verse also says that only people well grounded in knowledge can get it.
      You expect every Tom, Dick and Harry to get it?

  • @kaptaink1959
    @kaptaink1959 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The dictionary is without error, so it’s from allah? Beethoven 5th is perfect but not from allah

  • @blackmamba6253
    @blackmamba6253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    To say that quran Has no contradictions Is the greatest lie ever...

    • @braedansmith5903
      @braedansmith5903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fivenightsatfreddys9369watch the video. also google “1000 mistakes in the quran”

    • @blackmamba6253
      @blackmamba6253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fivenightsatfreddys9369 watch the video or if you dont want to watch it i'll give you plenty of contradictions from quran just say the word....

    • @DavidCrichton-r7x
      @DavidCrichton-r7x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@fivenightsatfreddys9369did u not watch the video?

    • @lullaby218
      @lullaby218 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@fivenightsatfreddys9369 I know you were probably raised into it so you never actually bothered to look into more details. But from day 1 your ☪ult has been waging nothing but war on others. If that's what you're into, fine. But let's not kid ourselves.

    • @blackmamba6253
      @blackmamba6253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fivenightsatfreddys9369 In th video few contradictions were mentioned most obvious is about quran claimig for it self to be a detailed and clear book yet it also claims to contain unclear verses which only allah knows what they mean ,both statement cannot be true .....

  • @Thomas.apologia
    @Thomas.apologia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Ayyyy🔥

  • @naturin0
    @naturin0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Just use phonebook as analogy it's much easier

    • @nasiryahaya4184
      @nasiryahaya4184 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whats that?

    • @naturin0
      @naturin0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@nasiryahaya4184 A phonebook has no contradiction, is it from God?

    • @BadAdviceMomo
      @BadAdviceMomo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@naturin0I would argue that the possibility of it being wrong exists because by the time the phone book has been printed, it is very likely that an individual listed in there did not pay their phone bill and that their listed phone number is no longer tied to them 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @naturin0
      @naturin0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@BadAdviceMomo ok, how about math book?

    • @joseduarte2146
      @joseduarte2146 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My dune book has no contradiction and predicted the future is it from Allah?

  • @nschlaak
    @nschlaak 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Don't exchange the word miracle for mystery. How a miracle is done may be a mystery, but having a mystery doesn't necessarily make it a miracle.

  • @Baby_aisha1
    @Baby_aisha1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wow the panel are on fire😮😮😮😮

  • @ashleybrown3031
    @ashleybrown3031 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Being the brother to Christ ✝️💙all are welcome 🙏💙🙏

  • @dpdizzy6766
    @dpdizzy6766 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🤣🤣🤣 No contradictions mean it is from God, Many books have no contradictions so all those books are from God🤣🤣🤣....
    Who is the speaker in the Quran? Because if it is Allah why, is he always speaking of himself in the 3rd person.. He is speaking about Allah as if there is some other being that is Allah...

  • @coolhawk2003
    @coolhawk2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Miracle is not understanding? Lol what you saying bud

  • @gustgoris8009
    @gustgoris8009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The muslim is clearly not very clever.

  • @kembekanana
    @kembekanana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Internet is the worst enemy of Islam...

    • @observerzz
      @observerzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly, Islam is fast spreading due to the internet.
      It is a blessing in disguise for Islam.

  • @chrisballen7851
    @chrisballen7851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bring him in.

  • @splodgeapologetics
    @splodgeapologetics 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    its a miracle ... is a cop out! whether its clear or not is the issue and its obviously not clear so you claim a miracle! you wouldnt as a muslim allow that if we Christians tried to explain what a verse means and you didnt accept that explanation, and we said "its a miracle!" thats double standards! miracles are not mistakes!

  • @bradalanmusic808
    @bradalanmusic808 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    didnt the writer of harry potter write a perfect book?
    does this mean is she god?

  • @elde720
    @elde720 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    these guys are literally the avengers

  • @62missingtopics
    @62missingtopics 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First you have to prove that allah of islam exist; I believe muhammad is allah

  • @prepareaccordingly
    @prepareaccordingly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To say the Quran is a religion is comical 😅

  • @prepareaccordingly
    @prepareaccordingly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He will ignore the facts and keep telling people it's perfect. Oh well

  • @Paul-zf8ob
    @Paul-zf8ob 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Koran is perfect? Seriously?

    • @maxinedeleon4357
      @maxinedeleon4357 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It'd taken its ideas from a number of sources one being the Bible😊!

  • @arnulfosolisjr3559
    @arnulfosolisjr3559 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jesus Christ is God Almighty 💯💯💯💯💯🙏

  • @advancedadam.7699
    @advancedadam.7699 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WITHOUT LIES ISLAM DIES 😂

  • @hectorzapata154
    @hectorzapata154 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Beautifully done granted, the laughs were a bit harsh, but there is such a thing as tough love. Even I couldn't hold back some laughter, but the entirety of the panel as well as our muslim brother showed some real class. God bless you all! 🙏🏼

  • @daozeni1190
    @daozeni1190 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is it not possible to have a detailed explanation that is unclear?

  • @fluxnekta
    @fluxnekta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Using his logic that’s what the Quran says it’s detailed next verse it’s not detailed ….contradiction 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ausderhocke-7490
    @ausderhocke-7490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What’s his name on twitch?

    • @allahslittlehelper
      @allahslittlehelper  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He streams on youtube its God Logic Apologetics

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Quran is full of flaws!

  • @hiphopisdead
    @hiphopisdead 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The beauty of this is that they’re not trying to put this muslim brother down rather they’re just speaking truth… because they and we all know that the truth will set anyone free.

  • @THEMASKEDMASTER
    @THEMASKEDMASTER 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ✌🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Please tell me WHY SINS ARE SINS? Please don’t say “because God said so” or “because it says so in a book”..

  • @vierbrandon
    @vierbrandon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always laugh at this channels name lol

  • @toddbeamer6131
    @toddbeamer6131 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:50 "I believe the quran is perfect" There is no "the" quran. Over 30 different arabic qurans are on sale in the world today, with over 93,000 text differences between them. So which of the many different arabic qurans is 'perfect'? This shows just how much of a bubble this poor abdool has been living in.

  • @shortghoststory
    @shortghoststory 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I say...Jing Jang gang... it's miracle that I don't bother to know ..! Damm you right

  • @TruthNgullie
    @TruthNgullie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The miracle Quran uesd to copy by mohammad from the Bible it's logical.
    Sahih Al-Bukhari, :-5917.
    Book, :-77.
    Hadith, :-131.Al ham du li Lah.

  • @peterrego3771
    @peterrego3771 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mohammed said " Allah & I are ONE. If you have seen me you have seen Allah. Don't you believe that Allah is in me. All authority on heaven & earth has been given to me. ,(Only Allah has all authority).
    Your sins past and future SINS are forgiven. ONLY Allah can forgive sins.

  • @toolisati8916
    @toolisati8916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only Muslim can explain allah got cobfused n didn't explained to his muslim peoples meaning of those verses n muslim call confused is 'MIRACLES thats the new meaning of the Miracle.

  • @mariahiras7240
    @mariahiras7240 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are many written Qurans with many different meanings and variations in these different texts! Let’s not be fooled! ✝️

  • @QuestionAll121
    @QuestionAll121 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guys buy my book, in it everything is clear but I also included some things that are not clear as my marketing strategy and they are to add pages. If anyone asks you to explain just say it is miracles. 🤫

  • @BobBobbo-cv2nl
    @BobBobbo-cv2nl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No human can give the word of God for God. Word of God needs to come from God. Therefore the Quran is not the word of God. Simple.

  • @smmaistheway
    @smmaistheway 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So worship the creator alone is unclear. But trinity makes way more sense right?😂😂😂😂

  • @astramoon
    @astramoon หลายเดือนก่อน

    We as Christians say that the blind see the lame walk and the sick are healed instantly we have seen William Branham heal we have seen many prophets and even my own father has been used by God to heal the sick to cast out demons we dont just have a book only we have life

  • @soniaaldea1110
    @soniaaldea1110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can Allah make a miracle but nobody understands the miracle not even him l? smh 😮 wow

  • @adrudds
    @adrudds 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I live tho set up, avengers flex🤣🔥

  • @soniaaldea1110
    @soniaaldea1110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's name is Allah's lil helper, it should be Allah's lil liar 😂

  • @MrJammat191
    @MrJammat191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shakespeares books are perfect -so what?

  • @dollahmusa6705
    @dollahmusa6705 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unclear doesnt mean miracle..dont understand at all

  • @atato1331
    @atato1331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Atleast he did not apply tawuiyaa!

  • @gowdsake7103
    @gowdsake7103 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So are all religious texts

  • @feliciarivera4485
    @feliciarivera4485 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like this muslim he is very nice.

  • @sopowae2189
    @sopowae2189 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks bro.

  • @jamesmaonga
    @jamesmaonga 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work comrades

  • @mckaylarosej7009
    @mckaylarosej7009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He was nice

  • @csmoviles
    @csmoviles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @sohailsamson828
    @sohailsamson828 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is a great discussion, but I must say that please do not laugh during the onversation thank you

  • @mr787takium9
    @mr787takium9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is dawah boys team Muhammad hijab , ali dawah , mansur , shiek uthman they should be there debating not this man .

    • @allahslittlehelper
      @allahslittlehelper  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      funny you mention that these young men have cooked all of the people you mentioned

    • @mr787takium9
      @mr787takium9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@allahslittlehelper as alidawah said one Muslims is enough to de stro y and defeat Christian but I don't see there elite A team there proud of that team

  • @wmarkfish
    @wmarkfish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phone books have no contradictions but none of these young guys have ever seen a phone book.

  • @atato1331
    @atato1331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lemon is bitter

  • @User-jd3pt
    @User-jd3pt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just because something is detailed doesn’t make it clear to a human mind I’m not Muslim but idk if that’s the best argument for a contradiction

    • @holybible.God.jesus.holyspirit
      @holybible.God.jesus.holyspirit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Smashallah🦵🕋🔥
      One verse say is clear in details
      One verse say even learned won't understand

  • @sAfgun123
    @sAfgun123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There isn't a contradiction. If you actually read the tafsirs and other translations, then you would know this. The first two verses you mentioned aren't referring to every single thing in the Quran as being clear, detailed and easy to understand. They are saying that "the Truth" (i.e. core aspects and foundations of Islam) are explained clearly within the Quran. Verse 3.7 just explains that are two types of verses.

    • @QuestionAll121
      @QuestionAll121 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Guys buy my book, in it everything is clear but I also included some things that are not clear as my marketing strategy and they are to add pages. If anyone asks you to explain just say it is miracles. 🤫

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@QuestionAll121 nice try but reread my comment. You’re straw manning

    • @QuestionAll121
      @QuestionAll121 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sAfgun123 so you saying I need to read another book to get clarification of what is meant in the Qur'an?

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@QuestionAll121 Depends on your intellect

    • @QuestionAll121
      @QuestionAll121 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sAfgun123 so you saying I need to sell another book for the intellectually challenged people and remind them about the miracles of the first book that still can't be understood or they might not be intelligent enough to understand.
      That's a great idea though to ensure I have multiple streams of income.

  • @amalk9750
    @amalk9750 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These guys are laughing but we’ll see whose laughing on the day of judgment. La illaha ila Allah Mohamed rasul Allah. These guys act like they are experts in Arabic language

  • @RodriguesPaul360
    @RodriguesPaul360 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys are tough piling on one guy ,
    It’s not a logical fallacy,
    When Allah is referring to no contradiction in the Quran
    Allah is meaning within the information in the Quran !!
    It’s not that difficult

  • @ZeroCelsius777
    @ZeroCelsius777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny how these people bring their same NESCIENCE that they show when trying to understand their scriptures they now try and understand QURAN using this same NESCIENCE.
    #1...AVERY...GotnoLogic...explained in detail means THINGS you do in LIFE that brings you closer to ALLAH.
    Next...Quran 3:7...mutashābihātun means ALLEGORICAL...not UNCLEAR/AMBIGUOUS, etc.
    Quran 3:7 says that the foundation of the book are verses that are PRECISE/LITERAL...then there are ALLEGORICAL verses that people take to be PRECISE/LITERAL
    Perfect example is when ALLAH talks about "Established on his Throne." That is ALLEGORICAL. People like the SUNNIS take that ALLEGORY and change it to be LITERAL...they believe that ALLAH LITERALLY is SITTING on a THRONE somewhere. This is what Quran 3:7 is talking about amongst other things.

  • @mhamedkhattabi5863
    @mhamedkhattabi5863 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there verses clear to anybody and some verses which requires experties only those who are experts while other verses only God knows and those kind of verses are irelevant to our salvation .

  • @kashimkhan4513
    @kashimkhan4513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the quran clearly states there are unclear verses as well as clear verses, so the statements match the content! so i dont see the contradiction!! God help you all. Anyway find a contradiction still, cause thats the challenge, instead of being hung up on ridiculous light bulb theories lmaroff

    • @allahslittlehelper
      @allahslittlehelper  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that’s the point the quran says its a detailed explanation of ALL things while at the same time having unclear verses

  • @shanegaddy4000
    @shanegaddy4000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's unhelpful to assume God has to be logical to a human mind. This is an assumption it's not necessary for that to be the case. Could be but no necessary if you grant all the premises

  • @mhamedkhattabi5863
    @mhamedkhattabi5863 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    religion which believes that 1+1+1 =1 cant be from God . Period

    • @LitoLochoss
      @LitoLochoss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Religoin that belive is ok to sleep with children have have sex with them before period worship muhhamed kisses an idol stone and has a limited god allah that cant come in earth as a human cant have a son unless he has somebody to mate ? and allow you to have sex with slaves is Not from God

    • @LitoLochoss
      @LitoLochoss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Islam belive in 3 god their idol muhhamed and allah

    • @mhamedkhattabi5863
      @mhamedkhattabi5863 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LitoLochoss 😅😅😅 no comments

  • @RafikKhan-ol4zk
    @RafikKhan-ol4zk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mansur dismantled you no logic

    • @markLawley-g8u
      @markLawley-g8u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ISLAM 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% FALSE

    • @andrewalpha7954
      @andrewalpha7954 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Very sad mansour couldn’t answer the question so he diverted

    • @arnulfosolisjr3559
      @arnulfosolisjr3559 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Mansur couldn't even answer a question 💯😂😂🤣👎

  • @holybible.God.jesus.holyspirit
    @holybible.God.jesus.holyspirit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Smashallah shin🦵🕋🔥 everything is a miracle🤣mohamedens🥱🤔

  • @fastguna650
    @fastguna650 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here’s a very clear contradiction. In fact one of many
    In their stories there is truly a lesson for people of reason. This message cannot be a fabrication, rather ˹it is˺ a confirmation of previous revelation, a detailed explanation of all things, a guide, and a mercy for people of faith.
    12:111
    Vs
    He is the One Who has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book, of which some verses are precise-they are the foundation of the Book-while others are elusive.1 Those with deviant hearts follow the elusive verses seeking ˹to spread˺ doubt through their ˹false˺ interpretations-but none grasps their ˹full˺ meaning except Allah. As for those well-grounded in knowledge, they say, “We believe in this ˹Quran˺-it is all from our Lord.” But none will be mindful ˹of this˺ except people of reason.
    3:7

    • @radenwirawan5351
      @radenwirawan5351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where is the contradiction?

    • @fastguna650
      @fastguna650 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@radenwirawan5351 is it a detailed explanation of ALL things? Or are some versus elusive? Which is it? Cannot be both!!!

    • @radenwirawan5351
      @radenwirawan5351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think if we want to take the negative interpretation, it sound like contradicting
      But maybe not
      In 12:111 the context at the beginning is the story in the quran
      In 3 : 7 the context is verses in the quran
      With positive interpretation, maybe it can be like this
      - The quran explaining all things in human world (well the context of 12 : 111, is the story within the quran)
      - not all in the quran can be explained by human (because certain things in the quran is literally not about human world - like alif lam mim or yaasiin - the context of 3:7 is verses in the quran )
      Maybe its like syllogism
      - all birds are animal
      - not all animals are bird

    • @fastguna650
      @fastguna650 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@radenwirawan5351 it’s not a syllogism because it says ALL things, there isn’t two positions here there’s only 1 “all things”.

    • @radenwirawan5351
      @radenwirawan5351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      See the context
      12: 111 begin with "in their stories..."
      3:7 the context is verses in the quran
      "It is He who has sent down to you, the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise..."
      I think you must see the whole verse, dont cut it
      If you cut it, you must be fair
      - this book explain all things for human
      - in your translation, 3:7 said "elusive", it means difficult to understand. This book explain it, "you know, there is some verses in me that you will not easily understand". So the book explain it to the reader, even warn that the reader will not understand it. If you see in the beginning of chapter 3, there's alif laam mim. Literally it means alif laam mim (im not talking about the tafseer or the interpretation, just literal alif laam mim). It can be translated. But for the interpretation, this book explain it to you in verse 7, some verses elusive (not easy for you to understand). For full understanding, only Allah knows best (it is still 3:7 translation)
      See the whole verse, dont cut it, be fair and sincere