$500 for one race is wild (and extremely wasteful if you care about that sort of thing), but I have to say I love the look. I’m a big fan of the simpler, less “busy” look. Too many running shoes are a bit too flashy for me. These are pretty slick.
I'll never own a pair but I like that Adidas is thinking outside the box and innovating. They've gone bonkers with the Adizero racing line the last few years and I love it.
I was intrigued when you mentioned that the Evo 1 is like a super Takumi Sen 9. I really love the Takumi Sen 9 and I am always thinking what if it had the same stack height and drop as the Evo 1 or the Adios Pro 3. Now I think that will just be a big "what if" for me since I doubt that I would be able to try the Evo 1.
I agree with the intriguing comparison. I love the ‘Sen 8 and it’s lasted for several tempo and track workouts o definitely worth the money I spent. Feels very light compared to all my other shoes.
Another big fan of the TS8 (I have two pairs after buying a 2nd on discount). I reserve them for short races, but could easily take them at least to HM or even full, though I’d be a little afraid to try that. They worked for me perfectly right out of the box in a 5K and have worn them for BolderBoulder twice, as well for a few speed workouts.
They released it in order for the Pros to race in. I think they really wanted to get that record this year so instead of prototyping it in a non sanctioned race or practice setting, they pumped out some for general consumption to meet the rule. I def can't wait to see the trickle down tech we get in the next Adios Pro 4(?) though (:
@@kofuzi it’s looking like as of January 2022 in rule 13.2 the shoe must be made available for purchase by the manufacture one month prior to the athletes wearing it in competition
It would be really interesting to see a review at 100 miles! I doubt it will really degrade so much but I expect Adidas was being cautious about the predictions. I have a pair of Adidas SL20s that I’ve run about 1000 miles and even played tennis in and there’s not a lot of wear.
I’ve experienced many race foams that don’t quite feel race ready after about 100-150 miles. Those shoes tend to be still useful as workout or session shoes, but I just don’t know what to expect from the Adios Pro Evo 1
I really appreciate the angles of your videos, so fascinating to see what is happening to the Lightstrike foam under pace. Also nice to see what the sole looks like after you've put some miles on them. It looks like you're having fun running in them which is why we are out there running right, to have fun!
They have only touched the hardwood floors in my house once... I almost feel like I need to increase my fitness a few levels before I actually race in them... but who knows, maybe I'll just run them at NYC in a few weeks!@@kofuzi
The Takumi sen is the only adidas shoe since the boston 9 which has worked for me so I image a nice run from what you have told us (also a fan of the puma deviate elite range) Regarding the 'catapulted with each step'... that's the wave rebellion pro to my mind (I have just not figured out which direction the bounce takes me ). Thank you once again for as detailed review you could provide with the amount of milage you have gotten out of it.
TBF if you follow that concept car analogy, 500 shoes at $500 dollars is a return of $250000 for adidas. Do we think they are making a profit from this shoe? I don’t think so. It’s a technology demonstrator and I think that’s pretty cool.
I avoid other people's reviews, but to the extent there are negative ones, I think that they could be reasonable gut reactions to the lack of longevity or the high price. you can see it here in the comments, too. hopefully, I have been able to properly acknowledge those clear shortcomings while still presenting a fair analysis of what this shoe is and means
@@kofuziYeah, I suspect there are many out here who don't really understand what they were thinking in HQ when deciding to name and, to some extent, release it. Ferrari made a car a while back called the Enzo. It was around $700k. We weren't really supposed to buy it. There wasn't a lineup in various colors at your dealer. They were just saying, "This is the closest thing to a street-legal F1 car." There may have been fewer of those made than of this shoe. I believe you hit the nail on the head with the concept and the intention of adidas execs.
i bought the adios 8 because of your positive review and that the takumi sen didnt really worked for me. I have been gravitating towards it so far for my workouts and faster runs up to 10k. PS my wife kicked me out from our room and i have been sleeping on the couch eversince it came almost 2 weeks ago because i bought yet another pair even though it was 60% off. But it’s all worth it! All these shall pass! 🤣
Great detail and perspective, Mike, as usual. Compelling comparison to Sen 9. Love the 8. I can only imagine a lighter, swifter and more cushioned Sen would be a blast to run in.❤Will be fun to see you take it for a ride at Houston Half!
This is all so exciting. It's a showcase and a glimpse into the future of what's to come in next iterations of the Adios Pro. I'm confident they will find a way for this technology to make its way into that shoe, by improving upon its durability.
That’s a good way to look at them, although I think that perhaps this shoe may be at a stage where the “tire” still doesn’t quite last enough laps to get from pit stop to pit stop
Great review. Too bad you did not go into alternatives (none) or budget options (every other supershoe that we just bashed as too expensive) 😜. I agree this is a small batch prototype and should not be measured by normal standards, in fact for a prototype it probably is really cheap, Adidas may even lose money on each one. But curious to see if next year or so the shoe or some elements of it make it into full production in the 250-350 price range.
Great review as always ! So intrigued to see what future shoes come out of this design. Totally agreed that I'm glad they released this for sale, even if it's high price and longevity isn't there. Just a great opportunity for people who get the chance to try out what made this shoe such a winner for breaking that record.
If a concept car sits in a showroom then nobody would know if it cant actually drive. It could just be art and no more. This isnt just a concept shoe, this is the epitomy of human engineering into a running shoe.
I think they need to make the shoe legitimate for races by following the rules which includes availability to public, so they do a limited release, but is it "widely available"? Debatable...
is the "widely available" definition even matter, given the 2020 amendment that permits prototypes? so many people have commented about the publicly available rule that I'm starting to doubt whether in understand the rules at all (not that I had all that thorough of an understanding to begin with)
I see this as the equivalent of a car homologation, where the manufacturer produces a threshold number of homologation specials that allow them to race. Since Adidas needs to formally release and certify shoes to be able to make their records official they are releasing super small quantities of them
I think the rules for stock car racing are the most peculiar because the "stock cars" are nothing like the actual stock cars. but in the shoe instance, unless I'm mistaken, the rule has been amended in 2020 to return to the status quo where prototypes were permitted to be used for the purpose of both racing and record setting. I'm so certain that this is the case here, but so many people have claimed that the small release is for rules purposes that I'm now doubting myself.
@@kofuzi you are more involved in the shoe scene than any of us so there's that. But I pecularly love the thought process of this kind of products (whether shoes or cars). The disregard for the consumer and the singular focus on performance will always yield a special product.
I’ve run some of my best races and workouts in adidas shoes. Up there with Saucony which are my overall favorite. I wanna try these, but I can’t justify $500 for one race haha.
Al Rumie what are you waiting for (Hopefully you read this comment). Be a first Malaysian to get this stuff🔥. As a Malaysia no others can we hopes. I’m really wanted you to do as a same what Kofuzi did. Get the shoe and do a review🙏🏻
Also towards the end of your video I kept asking myself it’s Adidas way of flexing against the competition that their concept car approach like you say does hopefully lead to amazing iterations in super shoes and ultimately sprinkle some nuances down to the Boston where it literally needs it first like you mention again about. I think a shoes, yeah it’s a gripe allright, made to deteriorate faster is why class action lawsuits exists like who literally wants to now overspend on running shoes to experience and have a terrible investment that pays no dividends everyone for sure will like to avoid. Adidas is so rad that hopefully with all the reaction they get and sales they see can stay dominant. My personal reaction is that the color combinations should tone down a lot. Some good monochromatic colors will be amazing to see given a three tone touch. Also seeing some nice heft of Continental rubber pieces to give us long lasting use that’s certified to satisfy all people who buy from Adidas. Shelling out $500 for a shoe that will deteriorate after 3 races is so boss from Adidas.
Yes for us a common people in the world $500 its way too expensive race shoe?!?? But for those those very rich parents giving that pair is easy 😅 By the way love your adidas tshirt what size are you sir? & how much is that tshirt your wearing (gray) thank you sir
But what I don't understand about your video is I get Adidas gave you the shoe to rate and review but there's a very limited amount they're all numbered and it looks like you wasted all of the benefits built into that shoe for just a casual jog? I just don't understand why you would have wasted what it can deliver that one time for a regular jog..
I assume they made it because there is a rule specification for world marathons that a shoe used in a sanctioned race must be available for purchase by the public.
They price the shoe high because they can't make shoes specifically for pro athletes anymore. So to circumvent the rule shoe companies create the shoes then price them like crazy, so they don't have to mass produce the shoe.
This shoe has really put Adidas on my radar now where I wasn't thinking about them much before. I kind of agree with what FOD Runner said about it: the shoe has gotten people talking about Adidas.
its intended to be an advertisement for the brand, and by reviewing it you are buying into the industry of leaving the consumer as the sucker. atleast you are playing nice and showing that other shoe companies can send you shoes in good faith
Seems like great marketing so long as the masses don’t get the impression Adidas isn’t built to last. If I worked in marketing at eg Brooks I’d see this as a huge opportunity. Or a brand that leverages sustainability.
oh, Brooks? that reminds me. there is only one other brand in running shoe history that has released a shoe to the public which has had less claimed durability than the Adios Evo 1.
Adidas couldn't just keep it for their professionals as you said. For any marathon shoe to be legal, they have to be available for the general public to buy.
Very interesting review. Seems like a shoe that makes sense for elite athletes. I like you take on the shoe as a prototype and basis for future shoes with better longevity and a lower price. Pretty cool you got a pair and could tell us about it!!!
Isn't one of World Athletic's requirements for record eligible shoes is availability to the public? I could be remembering that wrong, but perhaps a big part of the release was specifically to make their pro-runners eligable for records while wearing this shoe.
Pretty spot on review 🙌 If I remember correctly Charlotte Heidmann mentioned it was “concept” shoe and they were impressed by feedback from their runners. We just get 500 pieces of that special cake. Hopefully more of us can have a taste in future 🍰
Bad enough shoes are now 150 to 300 dollars. SHOES. 500 dollars.. that’s already out of control when it comes to “selling shoes”. If you’re not Racing Professionally that is.
I think trying to understand this shoe from a sales numbers perspective may lead to confusion. They’re clearly not trying to sell as many of these as they could.
@@kofuzi well in this day and age, before you know it... I imagine a slightly less performant shoe, for €300 or so. And enough aspiring middle aged men with fat wallets who think they can buy a shortcut to better PBs...
Hey Kofuzi, try some Indonesian brand running shoes like Nineten and Ortuseight. They offer good quality and are incredibly affordable, costing almost nothing.
In the auto world, it would be odd if a concept car got so much hate. Between the Evo1 and prime x 2 strung, I'm really excited at what Adidas will translate into its mainstream offerings in the coming year. also more important things -> slightly disappointed no outsole taste review 🤣
I did that on the livestream. it somehow smells like nothing and tastes like nothing. strange. like noise cancellation technology is somehow emanating from the shoe, but instead of blocking noise, it blocks smell and taste
So many people have commented the same but I can’t help but keep pointing out that the rule was amended in 2020 to allow for prototypes. Maybe I’m missing something here?
Legit Question: The price is $500, but with only 500 or so pairs made, did anyone buy them? Seems they were all given to elite athletes or media folks, so the price is just a made up number no one paid?
I certainly don't know everyone in the running world, and certainly not everyone in the running world posts to instagram. but from what I've seen, I think I saw one pair of legitimate purchase. I suspect all the remaining purchases have gone to resellers
Cool shoe But useless for training And unless you are a kiptum, hassan, Assefa, Kipchoge type athlete that could break a WR the shoe is pretty well not needed Even if you’d run a 2:15 or 2:14 marathon it doesn’t is a big difference If you’d try to break the Olympic qualifier than that shoe could be great. But every other person on this plantet I’d basically say the shoe is not needed The reason assefa ran great in Berlin because due to the lightness the shoe she can just maintain her form for longer plus she already was in WR shape The fastest male in the marathon wearing that shoe was like Kipruto or so he ran 2:03 mid so not even a guy that will medal in Paris (probably ain’t gonna make the Olympic Team for Kenya) So yeah that shoe has not even the crazy reputation of the Alphafly 3 which is the best marathon shoe on (or fastest)
I think perhaps you misspoke when you said that this racing shoe is “useless for training”. That sentence just doesn’t make sense since no one is suggesting that it should be used for training
Lots of talk about the longevity, but no review of that supposedly headline property or "feature"? In my view nonsensical how such a property can be stated like it applies across the board to runners of all weights and paces (the forces applied through the shoe) and therefore nonsensical for a reviewer to regurgitate this information. This is effectively reporting on a product and the manufacturer's statements, not reviewing.
I think perhaps you are listening for specific words or phrases that might not be in my vocabulary. But I think I address your concerns (which, fwiw, are not explicitly stated in your complaint) by explaining what I’m feeling at various effort levels. This is a technique that I use in all my shoe reviews so as to remove any pace bias. If you have a specific question, please feel free to ask. I also do a livestream for about an hour, Monday through Friday on the Kofuzi Run Club channel. That is a great place for nuanced, synchronous discussion about shoes
Maybe I'm just a shoe boomer, but the whole concept of 500 bucks for one race is just too boutique. I don't respect it as a business model and as someone who has hated the whole "pay more for less mileage" kick the industry has been on this is my worst nightmare.
it's a good time to be a runner. for those who want to place a premium on performance, there is something for them. and for those who place a premium on durability, there is something for them too.
I believe that this shoe is made for runners that weight 2 Lbs/inch, ( and adidas should post a disclaimer) if you are heavier you are waisting your money.
Great review, Ko! It’s basically a prototype for a future mass-produced racer, and they get way more marketing value by putting it in the hands/feet of >400 influencers, rather than just the top handful of pros
A really nice video you made👍🙂. And your opinion about the shoe at the end of the video. I have the same opinion. This shoe is not for us ordinary runners. And I hope that a shoe that can only run a marathon never becomes normal for anyone other than the elite. We have to think about our future generations and the nature we love to run in🏞️🏜️🌲🌳🌴❤️
I love what this does for running shoe companies and world records these shoes should be expensive for elite runners let’s pore all of the research and new technology to produce this crazy better running shoe of course on the flip side it’s really expensive
I believe I said that my current marathon fitness is a handful of minutes under my current BQ pace. In other words, if I had to run a marathon this weekend, I think I could BQ off no taper with a little room to spare fwiw, my marathon PB is 14 minutes faster than what I need for a BQ. but I am not currently at that level of fitness
Love my Adios Pro 3’s but I already felt like I was buying the “Ferrari” of shoes when I spent that kind of money on a marathon shoe. I agree with the comparison to a concept car but it does open up the concern for $200+ running shoes becoming a norm instead of reserving that price point to the top of the line models.
I think the excitement of record breaking adds to the sport, kudos to adidas innovation . Clearly designed for elite athletes. However , I have always loved accessibility in running don’t like super high cost shoes. Also don’t want to encourage companies making shoes that are very low durability for most consumers. I have loved the adios pro 3 durability for a race shoe it has worked so well for me. Hope they keep models like that as the main race shoe for most runners. Consistently have found adidas shoes on discount which has made them more accessible.
Adidas have basically made the perfect shoe for elite female athletes. It’s like a light spring and works best with much lighter weight athletes whilst Nike have made the alpha fly as a heavier spring for more mass market consumption 😊
as an update, I believe that Adidas is now telling us that the liquid rubber is a compound made by Continental. but yes. my sources indicate that she had a different outsole than what I have edit: "my sources" are not official Adidas sources, fwiw
I Know this is an EVO 1 video, but considering that the Takumi Sen was mentioned in this video I wanted to share my two cents about it. I have both the Sen and Pro 3 and my biggest problem with the Sen 9 is the tongue, it slides down toward the beginning of the toes and it gets so uncomfortable unfortunately (The only plus side is that it can only be used for 3,5,10k max and even I wouldn't use it for 10k, cos for me it gets really uncomfortable). I wish it had the tongue of the Pro 3! Other than that, both the Sen 9 and Pro 3 are just epic shoes. The Pro 3 I did more than 600km, training 10k-18k and raced 10k-12k and it's still great.
Nice review Kofuzi, thanks. Interesting your comment re not getting the pop you expected at marathon pace, but then again I'd imagine the benefits due to weight for fatigue in the back end of a marathon - much akin to the fatigue of doing bicep curls using light weights compared to heavy... Interested to hear if you're going to race a marathon in these and your thoughts after that. Look forward to some of this tech filtering down.
@@kofuzi yes! saw it. >< Thanks for all the content -- you are awesome! You keep me running even though it's hard and I fail at my goals all the time. I can see I can get the health benefits over time, and I don't need to be elite to have fun running.
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Measured, non biased and fun. Refreshing as usual Kofuzi! 🙏
thank you
@@kofuzi Biased when it comes to Under Armour
$500 for one race is wild (and extremely wasteful if you care about that sort of thing), but I have to say I love the look. I’m a big fan of the simpler, less “busy” look. Too many running shoes are a bit too flashy for me. These are pretty slick.
Adidas can do simple designs really well
Yeah that's insane! I'm guessing the pro's might do that anyway but for us mortals, that's nuts!
need to come with like 3-4 replacement rubbers for the bottom lol
500$ for a pair of running shoes use TPEE for the midsole, which is an ultra-durable foam... all of this for 1 marathon! What a waste!
its a steal actually @@gpersonaltrainer
Ngl it looks fire
Nah looks basic
the simpler Adidas designs get, the better they are, imo
Dumpster fire…. It should be banned from marathons lol.
Cllleeeeeaannn 🧽
@@djj2564it is banned, like how Nikes top performer was banned/nerfed to make it possible for running marathons. Did you watch the video?
I'll never own a pair but I like that Adidas is thinking outside the box and innovating. They've gone bonkers with the Adizero racing line the last few years and I love it.
there has been a lot of innovation in a very small amount of time
I was intrigued when you mentioned that the Evo 1 is like a super Takumi Sen 9. I really love the Takumi Sen 9 and I am always thinking what if it had the same stack height and drop as the Evo 1 or the Adios Pro 3. Now I think that will just be a big "what if" for me since I doubt that I would be able to try the Evo 1.
unless they give it a wider release. If not some of these designs may still be used in the adios pro 4
I agree with the intriguing comparison. I love the ‘Sen 8 and it’s lasted for several tempo and track workouts o definitely worth the money I spent. Feels very light compared to all my other shoes.
Another big fan of the TS8 (I have two pairs after buying a 2nd on discount). I reserve them for short races, but could easily take them at least to HM or even full, though I’d be a little afraid to try that. They worked for me perfectly right out of the box in a 5K and have worn them for BolderBoulder twice, as well for a few speed workouts.
They released it in order for the Pros to race in. I think they really wanted to get that record this year so instead of prototyping it in a non sanctioned race or practice setting, they pumped out some for general consumption to meet the rule. I def can't wait to see the trickle down tech we get in the next Adios Pro 4(?) though (:
I believe that rule has been amended back in 2020
@@kofuzi it’s looking like as of January 2022 in rule 13.2 the shoe must be made available for purchase by the manufacture one month prior to the athletes wearing it in competition
@@dwarmournah, kiptum ran with prototype shoes
They just have to notify iaaf before the race and get clearance
It would be really interesting to see a review at 100 miles! I doubt it will really degrade so much but I expect Adidas was being cautious about the predictions. I have a pair of Adidas SL20s that I’ve run about 1000 miles and even played tennis in and there’s not a lot of wear.
I’ve experienced many race foams that don’t quite feel race ready after about 100-150 miles. Those shoes tend to be still useful as workout or session shoes, but I just don’t know what to expect from the Adios Pro Evo 1
I really appreciate the angles of your videos, so fascinating to see what is happening to the Lightstrike foam under pace. Also nice to see what the sole looks like after you've put some miles on them. It looks like you're having fun running in them which is why we are out there running right, to have fun!
did I see that you got a pair also? have you raced in them yet?
They have only touched the hardwood floors in my house once... I almost feel like I need to increase my fitness a few levels before I actually race in them... but who knows, maybe I'll just run them at NYC in a few weeks!@@kofuzi
@@PeterCheeThat would be amazing to see. Please post if you do!
The Takumi sen is the only adidas shoe since the boston 9 which has worked for me so I image a nice run from what you have told us (also a fan of the puma deviate elite range) Regarding the 'catapulted with each step'... that's the wave rebellion pro to my mind (I have just not figured out which direction the bounce takes me ). Thank you once again for as detailed review you could provide with the amount of milage you have gotten out of it.
I'll have more to say once I race in the shoe. I'm planning to use it for the Houston Half
TBF if you follow that concept car analogy, 500 shoes at $500 dollars is a return of $250000 for adidas. Do we think they are making a profit from this shoe? I don’t think so. It’s a technology demonstrator and I think that’s pretty cool.
I agree
Ultimately, a very technical shoe which rewards the runner who has the capability and therefore knows how to take advantage of it…
yeah. I'm not sure I'm getting the full potential out of the shoe. but that's on me
@@kofuzistill, thanks for sharing your insights on the shoes and answering our no. 1 question - "will the shoe make me fly" 😉
Love your thoughts and interpretation of this shoe, makes every other review (especially the negative ones) seem short sighted.
I avoid other people's reviews, but to the extent there are negative ones, I think that they could be reasonable gut reactions to the lack of longevity or the high price. you can see it here in the comments, too.
hopefully, I have been able to properly acknowledge those clear shortcomings while still presenting a fair analysis of what this shoe is and means
@@kofuziYeah, I suspect there are many out here who don't really understand what they were thinking in HQ when deciding to name and, to some extent, release it. Ferrari made a car a while back called the Enzo. It was around $700k. We weren't really supposed to buy it. There wasn't a lineup in various colors at your dealer. They were just saying, "This is the closest thing to a street-legal F1 car." There may have been fewer of those made than of this shoe. I believe you hit the nail on the head with the concept and the intention of adidas execs.
i bought the adios 8 because of your positive review and that the takumi sen didnt really worked for me. I have been gravitating towards it so far for my workouts and faster runs up to 10k.
PS
my wife kicked me out from our room and i have been sleeping on the couch eversince it came almost 2 weeks ago because i bought yet another pair even though it was 60% off. But it’s all worth it! All these shall pass! 🤣
yeah price of the shoe is now spec of show how low one can get
Great detail and perspective, Mike, as usual. Compelling comparison to Sen 9. Love the 8. I can only imagine a lighter, swifter and more cushioned Sen would be a blast to run in.❤Will be fun to see you take it for a ride at Houston Half!
I'm very curious to see how it does in race conditions for me!
Same!
This is all so exciting. It's a showcase and a glimpse into the future of what's to come in next iterations of the Adios Pro. I'm confident they will find a way for this technology to make its way into that shoe, by improving upon its durability.
part of me is worried about, what if they can't ever improve the durability?
thank you, In my opinion, this is the best review of the evo 1 available on youtube so far
Thank you 🙏
Yo, what’s going on!! What can it do for us Non-Elite 🤔 maybe just have less money on our savings account 🤷🏻♂️🙈😆😆😆
Literally like racing tires. Super engineered, expensive, 1 race durability, peak performance.
That’s a good way to look at them, although I think that perhaps this shoe may be at a stage where the “tire” still doesn’t quite last enough laps to get from pit stop to pit stop
Great review. Too bad you did not go into alternatives (none) or budget options (every other supershoe that we just bashed as too expensive) 😜. I agree this is a small batch prototype and should not be measured by normal standards, in fact for a prototype it probably is really cheap, Adidas may even lose money on each one. But curious to see if next year or so the shoe or some elements of it make it into full production in the 250-350 price range.
pretty sure that they are losing money on each sale
They should come with an extra pair of shoes made with the same geometry but more resiliant materials for training so you can use this one time 😅
takumi sen
You CAN use it one time
Great review as always ! So intrigued to see what future shoes come out of this design. Totally agreed that I'm glad they released this for sale, even if it's high price and longevity isn't there. Just a great opportunity for people who get the chance to try out what made this shoe such a winner for breaking that record.
it's a peculiar shoe and very interesting. I think it bodes well for future Adidas adios shoes
If a concept car sits in a showroom then nobody would know if it cant actually drive. It could just be art and no more. This isnt just a concept shoe, this is the epitomy of human engineering into a running shoe.
Super cool that you got to run in it, Ko!
I wasn't expecting it, but it was a very fun surprise
I think they need to make the shoe legitimate for races by following the rules which includes availability to public, so they do a limited release, but is it "widely available"? Debatable...
is the "widely available" definition even matter, given the 2020 amendment that permits prototypes?
so many people have commented about the publicly available rule that I'm starting to doubt whether in understand the rules at all (not that I had all that thorough of an understanding to begin with)
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I see this as the equivalent of a car homologation, where the manufacturer produces a threshold number of homologation specials that allow them to race. Since Adidas needs to formally release and certify shoes to be able to make their records official they are releasing super small quantities of them
and with the huge price tag
I think the rules for stock car racing are the most peculiar because the "stock cars" are nothing like the actual stock cars.
but in the shoe instance, unless I'm mistaken, the rule has been amended in 2020 to return to the status quo where prototypes were permitted to be used for the purpose of both racing and record setting.
I'm so certain that this is the case here, but so many people have claimed that the small release is for rules purposes that I'm now doubting myself.
@@kofuzi you are more involved in the shoe scene than any of us so there's that.
But I pecularly love the thought process of this kind of products (whether shoes or cars). The disregard for the consumer and the singular focus on performance will always yield a special product.
They had to make it available for the public. Otherwise it wouldn't have been legal for competitive racing and the records wouldn't count.
I do not believe that to be true, based on the 2020 amendment to the rule regarding prototypes
What a wasteful environmentally irresponsible shoe, makes me want to avoid Adidas
Hi there, great video! Do you have any thoughts on this vs the metaspeed sky paris, the 2nd lightest shoe on the market?
I’ve run some of my best races and workouts in adidas shoes. Up there with Saucony which are my overall favorite. I wanna try these, but I can’t justify $500 for one race haha.
Al Rumie what are you waiting for (Hopefully you read this comment). Be a first Malaysian to get this stuff🔥. As a Malaysia no others can we hopes. I’m really wanted you to do as a same what Kofuzi did. Get the shoe and do a review🙏🏻
Also towards the end of your video I kept asking myself it’s Adidas way of flexing against the competition that their concept car approach like you say does hopefully lead to amazing iterations in super shoes and ultimately sprinkle some nuances down to the Boston where it literally needs it first like you mention again about. I think a shoes, yeah it’s a gripe allright, made to deteriorate faster is why class action lawsuits exists like who literally wants to now overspend on running shoes to experience and have a terrible investment that pays no dividends everyone for sure will like to avoid. Adidas is so rad that hopefully with all the reaction they get and sales they see can stay dominant. My personal reaction is that the color combinations should tone down a lot. Some good monochromatic colors will be amazing to see given a three tone touch. Also seeing some nice heft of Continental rubber pieces to give us long lasting use that’s certified to satisfy all people who buy from Adidas. Shelling out $500 for a shoe that will deteriorate after 3 races is so boss from Adidas.
Yes for us a common people in the world $500 its way too expensive race shoe?!?? But for those those very rich parents giving that pair is easy 😅
By the way love your adidas tshirt what size are you sir?
& how much is that tshirt your wearing (gray) thank you sir
“Logo of a very fancy podiatrist” is the most accurate description
I feel like if I went to a podiatrist and that was the logo, I would feel very confident that I was in the right place
But what I don't understand about your video is I get Adidas gave you the shoe to rate and review but there's a very limited amount they're all numbered and it looks like you wasted all of the benefits built into that shoe for just a casual jog? I just don't understand why you would have wasted what it can deliver that one time for a regular jog..
overcompensating for the prime x 2 strung. that thing weighs twice as this lmao.
I assume they made it because there is a rule specification for world marathons that a shoe used in a sanctioned race must be available for purchase by the public.
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Rember it's made for people that basically do a 5k effort for full thon 😅
If I'm paying $500 for a racing shoe, I'd better be able to hit that /gamemode c
They price the shoe high because they can't make shoes specifically for pro athletes anymore. So to circumvent the rule shoe companies create the shoes then price them like crazy, so they don't have to mass produce the shoe.
Adidas brought us a glimpse of the future. Great review and excited for when this type of shoe becomes available in a reasonable price package.
Future price tags
I am super curious to see how any mass produced version would be different
This shoe has really put Adidas on my radar now where I wasn't thinking about them much before. I kind of agree with what FOD Runner said about it: the shoe has gotten people talking about Adidas.
definitely true
This is basically a homologated race car for street use (911 gt1, clk gtr) as a shoe.
its intended to be an advertisement for the brand, and by reviewing it you are buying into the industry of leaving the consumer as the sucker. atleast you are playing nice and showing that other shoe companies can send you shoes in good faith
13:34 /// liberou por condições de regulamentação e aprovação. 🤔
That's crazy light for a show like this.
it feels like a toy when you pick it up
Seems like great marketing so long as the masses don’t get the impression Adidas isn’t built to last. If I worked in marketing at eg Brooks I’d see this as a huge opportunity. Or a brand that leverages sustainability.
oh, Brooks?
that reminds me. there is only one other brand in running shoe history that has released a shoe to the public which has had less claimed durability than the Adios Evo 1.
Nice review! Will you try to take It at least at 50 Miles? Would be interesting to see if It changes feelings/compress too much
Thanks
I'm planning on racing a half marathon in it in January. I'll probably run a few workouts in it after that to satisfy our collective curiosity
Adidas couldn't just keep it for their professionals as you said. For any marathon shoe to be legal, they have to be available for the general public to buy.
the rules have been amended from what you have stated. to oversimplify: there is a prototype exemption
ive noticed the pros wearing this shoe but with less rubber outsole grip/cut outs, SO maybe its 10grams lighter then this "release"!
Maybe. But maybe they’re using a more traditional rubber where they do have it. 🤷🏻♂️
For the price, just buy a bike, you'll probably go faster
have you tried to buy a bike lately?
@@kofuzi I'm in the Uk and my bike was £450 so pretty close to the price :)
imagine someone wearing this after one marathon and then the very next day they're mowing the lawn with the same shoe lol
silly silly. you wouldn't mow the lawn with it. you would wear with with your Boston Marathon jacket to the expo of your next race for packet pickup
Very interesting review. Seems like a shoe that makes sense for elite athletes. I like you take on the shoe as a prototype and basis for future shoes with better longevity and a lower price. Pretty cool you got a pair and could tell us about it!!!
I really hope that they can figure out a way to make this foam stable enough for public consumption without losing too much of it's current magic
Isn't one of World Athletic's requirements for record eligible shoes is availability to the public? I could be remembering that wrong, but perhaps a big part of the release was specifically to make their pro-runners eligable for records while wearing this shoe.
the rule has been amended. to oversimplify: there is a prototype exemption
@@kofuzi awesome, apparently I missed that!
Zapatilla de subasta versus Ford GT 50 ...
Pretty spot on review 🙌 If I remember correctly Charlotte Heidmann mentioned it was “concept” shoe and they were impressed by feedback from their runners. We just get 500 pieces of that special cake. Hopefully more of us can have a taste in future 🍰
well said
A bit too in the can for everything they say from 'the shoe will self destruct' to, 'tailored to your foot' to be credible.
I'm not sure I understand what "in the can" means
Useless shoe.
I think perhaps you mean that you don’t need it
Konami should sue (j/k)
I thought these looked super sick, and was considering buying them, but am so glad I found this video. ONE RACE???? :'(
news you can use
them shits are like 1200 at least now
Bad enough shoes are now 150 to 300 dollars. SHOES. 500 dollars.. that’s already out of control when it comes to “selling shoes”. If you’re not Racing Professionally that is.
I think trying to understand this shoe from a sales numbers perspective may lead to confusion. They’re clearly not trying to sell as many of these as they could.
A pair of shoes for one race... I think this is madness, and really shouldn't be the trend for mass scale production.
it isn't
@@kofuzi well in this day and age, before you know it... I imagine a slightly less performant shoe, for €300 or so. And enough aspiring middle aged men with fat wallets who think they can buy a shortcut to better PBs...
Hey Kofuzi, try some Indonesian brand running shoes like Nineten and Ortuseight. They offer good quality and are incredibly affordable, costing almost nothing.
Are they sold in the US?
In the auto world, it would be odd if a concept car got so much hate. Between the Evo1 and prime x 2 strung, I'm really excited at what Adidas will translate into its mainstream offerings in the coming year.
also more important things -> slightly disappointed no outsole taste review 🤣
I did that on the livestream.
it somehow smells like nothing and tastes like nothing. strange. like noise cancellation technology is somehow emanating from the shoe, but instead of blocking noise, it blocks smell and taste
@@kofuzi saw a repeat of the livestream. was peak youtube
Adidas had to make the shoe available for the public. Otherwise their arhletes can't use them for the Olympics in Paris
So many people have commented the same but I can’t help but keep pointing out that the rule was amended in 2020 to allow for prototypes. Maybe I’m missing something here?
Legit Question: The price is $500, but with only 500 or so pairs made, did anyone buy them? Seems they were all given to elite athletes or media folks, so the price is just a made up number no one paid?
I certainly don't know everyone in the running world, and certainly not everyone in the running world posts to instagram. but from what I've seen, I think I saw one pair of legitimate purchase.
I suspect all the remaining purchases have gone to resellers
Cool shoe
But useless for training
And unless you are a kiptum, hassan, Assefa, Kipchoge type athlete that could break a WR the shoe is pretty well not needed
Even if you’d run a 2:15 or 2:14 marathon it doesn’t is a big difference
If you’d try to break the Olympic qualifier than that shoe could be great. But every other person on this plantet I’d basically say the shoe is not needed
The reason assefa ran great in Berlin because due to the lightness the shoe she can just maintain her form for longer plus she already was in WR shape
The fastest male in the marathon wearing that shoe was like Kipruto or so he ran 2:03 mid so not even a guy that will medal in Paris (probably ain’t gonna make the Olympic Team for Kenya)
So yeah that shoe has not even the crazy reputation of the Alphafly 3 which is the best marathon shoe on (or fastest)
I think perhaps you misspoke when you said that this racing shoe is “useless for training”. That sentence just doesn’t make sense since no one is suggesting that it should be used for training
Lots of talk about the longevity, but no review of that supposedly headline property or "feature"?
In my view nonsensical how such a property can be stated like it applies across the board to runners of all weights and paces (the forces applied through the shoe) and therefore nonsensical for a reviewer to regurgitate this information.
This is effectively reporting on a product and the manufacturer's statements, not reviewing.
I think perhaps you are listening for specific words or phrases that might not be in my vocabulary. But I think I address your concerns (which, fwiw, are not explicitly stated in your complaint) by explaining what I’m feeling at various effort levels.
This is a technique that I use in all my shoe reviews so as to remove any pace bias.
If you have a specific question, please feel free to ask.
I also do a livestream for about an hour, Monday through Friday on the Kofuzi Run Club channel. That is a great place for nuanced, synchronous discussion about shoes
Maybe I'm just a shoe boomer, but the whole concept of 500 bucks for one race is just too boutique. I don't respect it as a business model and as someone who has hated the whole "pay more for less mileage" kick the industry has been on this is my worst nightmare.
it's a good time to be a runner. for those who want to place a premium on performance, there is something for them. and for those who place a premium on durability, there is something for them too.
I feel just about all racing shoes are just big brothers of the 2nd generation Nike Dualist, lol! I miss that shoe, it was my racer in HS!
shoes have changed quite a bit since then
I believe that this shoe is made for runners that weight 2 Lbs/inch, ( and adidas should post a disclaimer) if you are heavier you are waisting your money.
that feels like so much math
pretty sure the shoe is fire to run in
It feels like they built this simply to see what the response is before they have a huge drop at closer to a $300-$350 range
that's an interesting theory. I'm very curious to see what happens for that announced November drop
Great review, Ko! It’s basically a prototype for a future mass-produced racer, and they get way more marketing value by putting it in the hands/feet of >400 influencers, rather than just the top handful of pros
That's it
Adidas knows what it's doing
Bonkers that you cant train in this shoe and use it straight for race...familiarization run wont cut it. Rubbish idea
no one has explained to me yet what a familiarization run is. it's probably shorter than the 9 or so miles I put in for testing, however
A really nice video you made👍🙂. And your opinion about the shoe at the end of the video. I have the same opinion. This shoe is not for us ordinary runners. And I hope that a shoe that can only run a marathon never becomes normal for anyone other than the elite. We have to think about our future generations and the nature we love to run in🏞️🏜️🌲🌳🌴❤️
the road sound of this shoe reminds me of the SpongeBob "squeaky boots" episode
these shoes are so incredibly squeaky. they're definitely much quieter than alphafly or even Adios Pros. but the squeak is so loud!
I love what this does for running shoe companies and world records these shoes should be expensive for elite runners let’s pore all of the research and new technology to produce this crazy better running shoe of course on the flip side it’s really expensive
*pour
just got my adios pro 3 a while ago, then they released this.. I was like “damn 😅”
Don’t let the mere existence of something else prevent you from enjoying what is right in front you
Do they make that SpongeBob squeak in person like that?
Yes
I’ve never heard anyone reference their marathon PB as their “current BQ pace”… lol
I believe I said that my current marathon fitness is a handful of minutes under my current BQ pace. In other words, if I had to run a marathon this weekend, I think I could BQ off no taper with a little room to spare
fwiw, my marathon PB is 14 minutes faster than what I need for a BQ. but I am not currently at that level of fitness
$500?? Yeah, id buy one if it could turn me into the flash and be able to do time travelling
quite a bargain for time travel technology
Love my Adios Pro 3’s but I already felt like I was buying the “Ferrari” of shoes when I spent that kind of money on a marathon shoe. I agree with the comparison to a concept car but it does open up the concern for $200+ running shoes becoming a norm instead of reserving that price point to the top of the line models.
They had to release it for world athletics rules in terms of being legal/records etc.
That rule was amended in 2020
Great review, this would be the upper echelon from Adidas 1 step up from the prime x 2 sprung
single use plastic!
I think the excitement of record breaking adds to the sport, kudos to adidas innovation . Clearly designed for elite athletes. However , I have always loved accessibility in running don’t like super high cost shoes. Also don’t want to encourage companies making shoes that are very low durability for most consumers. I have loved the adios pro 3 durability for a race shoe it has worked so well for me. Hope they keep models like that as the main race shoe for most runners. Consistently have found adidas shoes on discount which has made them more accessible.
Adidas have basically made the perfect shoe for elite female athletes. It’s like a light spring and works best with much lighter weight athletes whilst Nike have made the alpha fly as a heavier spring for more mass market consumption 😊
They did this shoe for elite athletes and the rules say they need to be released to make them a legal race shoe
to the extent it matters, there have been two drops of this shoe
Very much first world problems.
I guess PartyGuinness is not of the first world?
First of all this isn't made for general public. This is intended for elite marathon runners and I am glad it exists.
I think Tigst Assefa's had the continental sole.
as an update, I believe that Adidas is now telling us that the liquid rubber is a compound made by Continental.
but yes. my sources indicate that she had a different outsole than what I have
edit: "my sources" are not official Adidas sources, fwiw
I Know this is an EVO 1 video, but considering that the Takumi Sen was mentioned in this video I wanted to share my two cents about it. I have both the Sen and Pro 3 and my biggest problem with the Sen 9 is the tongue, it slides down toward the beginning of the toes and it gets so uncomfortable unfortunately (The only plus side is that it can only be used for 3,5,10k max and even I wouldn't use it for 10k, cos for me it gets really uncomfortable). I wish it had the tongue of the Pro 3! Other than that, both the Sen 9 and Pro 3 are just epic shoes. The Pro 3 I did more than 600km, training 10k-18k and raced 10k-12k and it's still great.
Appreciate your reviews brother 👊🏼
Thank you 🙏
Should I buy this shoe now that hunting season has started?
just make sure you wear blaze orange with them
Nice review Kofuzi, thanks. Interesting your comment re not getting the pop you expected at marathon pace, but then again I'd imagine the benefits due to weight for fatigue in the back end of a marathon - much akin to the fatigue of doing bicep curls using light weights compared to heavy... Interested to hear if you're going to race a marathon in these and your thoughts after that. Look forward to some of this tech filtering down.
lol!!! How did you get one? Haha i heard only 500 pairs were made.
see disclosures
I also mention it specifically within the first 90 seconds of the video
@@kofuzi yes! saw it. ><
Thanks for all the content -- you are awesome! You keep me running even though it's hard and I fail at my goals all the time. I can see I can get the health benefits over time, and I don't need to be elite to have fun running.