Proud owner of a manual sedan. I bought the car 6 months ago while in the market for a GTI. After driving both, there was just something about the "hondaness" that won me over. This is also my first manual car and the 6-speed/k24 combination has been a dream to learn with. The reverse wine sounds exactly like my Dad's old '96 civic :) Great car in any form!
I had a 2004 TSX, then had 2 GTI's. While they're both great cars, there's something about the TSX that I liked more. Now I drive a 2.0t honda accord and it brings me the nostalgia I had with the TSX
Same here, I have a 2009 TSX 6 speed. Even more rare is that mine has the tech package, which was only offered with manual for 2009 and 2010 models. Bought it last year with 232K, has 240K now and since then I've put brand new OEM clutch, flywheel, master and slave cylinder.
@@chinchy111 There was only 1 owner before me, and he owned it for 12 years give or take. But I'm in Houston with some of the worst traffic ever so I'll blame it on that. Plus there's no shame in having new parts lol.
@@Rahul-ce3no The K24 in these is bulletproof. I work at a Honda dealer and I've seen numerous K24's with over 250k. We had an Element in the showroom with almost 450k.
My 2012 Base TSX Wagon only has about 72k on the clock, and lives in the garage, so it feels like a new old-school Euro Honda. It's an excellent daily driver, not for winning stoplight races of course. The K24 is refined and responsive, and cruising down to Cape May is always a treat in my unicorn. I have not seen more than a couple in the past 6 months back here....feels a bit exotic.
There's just something about driving Hondas that's so satisfying. Thank you for showing a "normal car" today, it's a nice change of pace. Also, yes! My neighbors had a CRV growing up and I always enjoyed the whine in reverse lol
Fun fact about (non-CVT, non-DCT, non-10 speed) Honda automatics...the internals are built exactly like a manual, which is why it sounds like one in reverse.
There's a 8 Speed DTC and a 10 speed Honda automatic transmission build by Honda, they also aren't like the one in this. But about this 5 speed AT you're absolutely right.
I currently have a 2011 TSX sedan, and I was extremely surprised with how much value you get with this car. The build quality is actually surprisingly nice and the k24 in it makes it quicker than most N/A 4 bangers, in sport with paddles you can rev it out even more and it will not upshift for you, get even more pull from it that way. And the handling dynamics, feels way sportier than I was expecting, I couldn’t be happier with it, it’s been a great reliable daily with a bunch of added bonuses that make it really enjoyable.
My friend has one, he got rid of his GTI for one. I drove it around the block at his request once during a photoshoot and it did have that modern Honda feel to me. I like it for sure. Any time I see a TSX now, I always try to see the rear to see if it's a wagon. Makes me so happy when it is a wagon
This car is a blast. My wife and I owned a 2013 TSX Sedan and just sold it a few years ago. It handled so well and drove so smoothly. Loved the sound system.
Proud owner of a TSX wagon with 87k. These car do hold their value and is Definitely a rare car . Road noise is from the winter tires. I recently changed from winter tires to daily all weather tires and the cars is quiet.
I drive a 3.5 v6 TL, and you’re absolutely right about the J35. Wonderful engine, and I love the car. Only engine mod I’ve done is an intake for sound purposes and it sings.
I have a 2011 with the V6 and it runs as smooth today as it did when new. Was considering getting a newer car, but couldn't really justify it. To get something that would be a step up would cost $45k+ So I just gave it a new paint job because that is all it needed, being left in the southern California sun 24/7 for 11 years.
I had a 2010 TSX 6mt for 6 years. It wasn't fast at all, but the combination of sound, handling, rev happiness makes it one of the most engaging driving experiences I've ever had. The car loves to be revved out!
NA 4 cylinders don’t suck! Big reason why I love my Mazda3 so much, especially with a manual! Power delivery is so much nicer and more responsive than a 1.5/1.6T
In theory, It wouldn't be too hard to do a v6-6mt swap since the accord of the same generation has that as an option. If you did that (and maybe a turbo if you're insane) it would be so sweet
@@raf1320 I've been following that guy for a while and he's been putting tons of work in that car. seems like a huge process and it l think he does fabrication for a living
Tedward described my reasoning for buying a TSX Wagon so accurately. I am an enthusiast that needs the daily driver who needs the space who needs the practicality but doesn't want the boredom of a boring vehicle
proud owner of a 2010 tech package sedan 200k miles strong and feels great. just wanted to point out it wont upshift for you or downshift when its in "sport" mode if you dont touch the paddles in sport mode it will just drive 1 gear under (instead of 5 for the highway itll be in 4 & so forth)
I recently traded my old car for an old tsx and couldn’t be happier, that 205 hp feels perfect for windy road driving and keeps me from getting some tickets on the highway lol
I know that you usually put the cars you POV drive through their paces, but there is just something so "I'm 16 and this is my dad's car" about this video and I LOVE it HAHA! Don't tell my parents-- but I drive every car they've ever owned like this! 🤣
10:25 you have to put the transmission in sport and then use the paddle shifters to have full manual mode, you can hit and bang on the rev limiter with this, almost like an actual manual.
@@The_Noticer. yeah the gear ratios are long but I find that 2nd and 3rd gears are the best gears to stay in the powerband. You can get up to 60mph in 2nd gear, which is perfect for the backroads
@@NBPT428 yep, I have one as well and I remember losing a drag race to a Civic SI because I forgot to shift and I hit the limiter. I still haven’t gotten over that lol
I own this car as a daily and for traveling for work and it's by far one of the most well-built cars I've ever driven. It has 200k on the clock now, and minus the sunroof, everything still works in this car. It gets better than advertised fuel mileage, lots of utility, doesn't feel underpowered despite its weight. I could go on about this car, it's just a shame Honda/Acura didn't do more to make this successful for the masses.
I love the straight cut reverse sound in my 08 Civic Si, people will look at my car so weirdly sometimes when I reverse because of how noticeable it is
Proud owner (and rallycrosser) of the TSX wagon, made a review on it myself and you hit a lot of the same notes. Great fuel economy/throttle response, joyful handling, and remarkable practicality. Fun fact: you can fit a full size spare under the trunk.
After looking for one for years I found one that was a trade in. 2013 wagon with 60k miles. Bought it on the first day they listed it because I knew it would get swept up quick. The K24 is a great engine for fun reliability. And I can rev it all the way out in manual mode. I’m in love. Her name is Meg thee wagon. Cause she got a fat ass. Love seeing all the wagon love!
I had a first gen TSX (2006) with the 6 speed manual. What a phenomenal vehicle. Great build quality, decent performance, reliability and comfort. Plus, it made me look back at it every time I got out of it. I ended up selling it after dailying it for a year (bought it with 123k miles, sold it with 145k miles. I had literally 0 problems). That car is my biggest regret of selling! It's even still my profile pic on here and I haven't owned it for about 4 years now.
I love this wagon, just the perfect daily driver if you want comfort, space and a fun to drive car. The chassis and engine are excellent, even the automatic is solid. I have 2 2006 TSX's, both manuals, 1 is my driver, solid with 240k, the other is low mile, clean and my toy/summer fun car. I love the gen1TSX, but the gen 2 is excellent
Was on my way to look at a Dodge Magnum when I got a call from my friend at a dealership that got one of these in stock. Bought it up instantly, I've always been a fan of Honda and always wanted a wagon for practicality. 140k miles, black with black leather seats, a massive amount of tint and a muffler delete. The exhaust is held up with a coat hanger but I'm gonna make this my forever car ❤
Bought a 6 speed manual sedan about 7ish months ago for my first car, bought it for 2k AUD, its been brilliant to drive and so far is yet to let me down. First Honda I've ever driven, and its excellent. 250k kilometers (155k miles) and have had absolutely zero issues with it.
7:57 Yeah I have a 2005 Acura TL 5AT as my daily (also is my first car) and I have driven my Dad's 2020 Civic here and there and all I can say is that these Hondas are 100% made by people who like to drive. I can 100% relate to this video
You need to be in Sport mode to have full manual control. You can use the paddles in Drive, but you will be overridden within a few seconds if you don't shift. What I miss about these is that the computer actually lets you use first gear. On the newer 10 speed Acura models you have to hit the left paddle around 2000rpm while continuously on the throttle to "prevent" the upshift, and MAYBE it will let you hit about 4500 before it forces the shift to second gear (depending on traction). The TSX was the last Acura sedan that had SOMEWHAT of an analog sense of control, even with the automatic. You can rev match by blipping the throttle like you would on a true manual. They aren't fast cars, but they are fun and actually sound great. They actually did make the sedans available with both the J35 and a manual transmission, but it was either or, unfortunately. I believe sales would have interfered with the TL.
I've never seen an Acura wagon, cool. My dad's car is a 2010 Accord with this awesome K24 engine, 2.4L 4Cyl but with 190 horsepower. It's not as fuel efficient as I'd like but it accelerates surprisingly strong when you wring it out as you said... V-TEC! The auto transmission is good majority of the time but sometimes it bogs down as it's trying to stay fuel efficient- you explained it well in the vid. It's surprisingly more sport tuned than luxury tuned as you also said- great handling, tight suspension but a little harsh on the bumps. My K24 has a shudder/rattle sound on cold start sometimes which Honda said is not an issue, but it's a common annoyance/occurance which many ppl reported but Honda doesn't ackowledge or offer a fix. Apparently it has to do w/ a "VTC Actuator" and the engine oil. Luckily there's been no problems with the engine or oil levels/quality over 200,000 kms driven.
The VTC actuator is filled with oil which drains out over time cause its at the top of the engine. when you start it after sitting for a while, the parts inside smack together until oil pressure builds, causing the rattle noise.
Honda Automatics are basically manuals with automatic clutch packs on each gear. Theirs no planatary gear sets that's why you get the whine on reverse because it retaines the same reverse gear you'll find in a manual. The new Honda 10 speed is a planetary gearset they can handle alot more torque.
This would be the perfect daily/car to share with a spouse who can’t drive a manual. Thanks, Tedward for getting this out. Myself and others have been requesting this one and glad to see you’re receptive!
I’m an Acura tech and the people who own these love them and they’ll probably never sell them. If they made them awd with a manual transmission I think they would have sold so many cars.
I drive a 2012 auto TSX with the K24. Best car I've ever driven. In spite of it being an auto, I find that the transmission works very well with the engine. The car handles lovely, and I will keep it at least another ten years!
Got me a manual sedan that now has 202,000 miles and that thing still rips! So much fun as a daily driver and the manual does make it feel a lot spicier on the throttle. I drive the wheels off that car most days and it could not be more reliable if you change the oil!!
for nearly 5 years I had a 2nd gen 09 tsx, vortex blue pearl with the same parchment leather interior, with the same tech package. I had the amazing 6spd. Best car I ever owned. Sold it with 365,000km or around 225k mi. No problems at all. Didn't burn oil. I was anal about upkeep though and did things well before their due dates. I cleaned my seats and scrubbed each inch of the seats once a year. I ended up getting a 3rd gen lexus IS and while it's great, I miss my manual every day. I also miss the fuel economy as I would regularly get 700km to a tank (premium) ~ 8.4l/100km. Don't even ask me about fuel economy now LMAO. If you are thinking about getting this car, it is a must have. Interior is nicely designed and appointed, comes with great features for its time, good on fuel, and reliable as heck - so much so I contemplated if the lexus could be as reliable as the Honda lmao. While not amazingly fast, it is more than fast enough for 90% of situations. The one thing that hindered this car (and all fwd cars) is being fwd. Absolute beast. I miss my old blue and hope she's serving her new owner well.
I own an 8th generation accord coupe, the tsx’s sibling, and the k24z3 in these cars bolt up with the k24z7 in the 9th gen si so what could be done is converting the wagon to a manual that comes with an lsd from the factory, add some power mods (RBC intake can be adapted to the engine, also the 9th gen si roots supercharger manifold if you’re crazy enough) and the wagon could be a proper canyon carver with the go to back it up.
I had a 2012 wagon tech for 2 years and it was probably the best daily driver I’ll ever own. I recently traded it in for a 2012 gx460 and while the gx is a better overall vehicle. I still miss my wagon.
Was looking for one of these before finding an manual I30. I love the way these look and I would still like to have one should another chance appear. Great Vid Tedward! -Luis
Yeah the wagons look very very good!! I drive the TSX 4 Door variant with the 6 Speed on the K24 and its a fun car to drive and its very comfy and luxurious inside. Excellent find.
You’ve just convinced me to buy my Dad’s 2013 Accord Euro instead of his ‘08 Lexus IS250. You’re right the 4 cyl VTEC is as good as a 6 in many ways. The Honda’s sell as a discount to Lexus in Australia yet they’re as well spec’d as Acura’s in the States. And the Lexus is actually pretty sluggish even with the V6. And with only about 30k km on the clock the Accord is basically as good as it drove out of the dealership.
The reason for the gear whine is that Honda's automatic transmission is mechanically very similar to a manual transmission. It has a gear set like a manual rather than a set of clutch packs. Part of why Honda automatics last so long.
@TedwardDrives yes that's the reason for the whine. But the reason it's got a straight cut reverse gear is because it's built just like Honda manual transmissions which also have a straight cut reverse gear. Rather than a traditional auto using planetary gearsets and clutch packs.
I just got a 2010 Honda Accord Tourer 2.4 5AT because the 6MT ones are unicorns in Europe. I have seen a few manuals with the Type S package with just one with the Executive Business package (full leather electronic seats, sunroof, navi, backup camera, adaptive cruise, lane keep assist). It's a very comfy cruiser. Very different from my old 6MT CL9 Type S.
I really, really tried to buy a TSX around 2011. The wagons were impossible to find especially used. The V6 sedan was even more of a unicorn and expensive. And the 4 cylinder sedan was not enough of an upgrade from my 4 cylinder Accord to justify the cost. Even with the expense, I would have found a way to buy the wagon, if the V6 was an option. It wasn't, so I bought a Accord V6 Coupe instead.
I seriously considered one a couple of years ago (as an Accord version in Europe). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to source the right spec (full options + light interior) and they are now rather old by my wife standards. So I ended up in an S60 while I really wanted a V60. That's life. Nice comprehensive review as always, Tedward!
I have a 2010 sedan manual and it's a great daily. Have some parts that were exclusive to other countries that I put on, and while it definitely has some nice creature comforts, the US actually got the short end of the stick in terms of features and technology. Mine currently has 146k miles and still drives great. No real rattles or noises, even after going through being bagged for a bit. As long as you don't expect it to be fast it is actually surprising how peppy the 6MT can feel despite being underpowered. No issues around town or even merging on the highway, and the low power makes you want to ring it out often, which being a Honda is no sweat for it Also, I believe you need to keep it in Sport mode if you want it to not just automatically upshift by itself
I have a 7th gen accord k24 and despite it being slow It’s a blast to drive. I also learned that the reverse whine is NORMAL?? I always thought something was up!?!
I want one of these wagons badly. Get a tune itll help a bit with acceleration and the throttle input. I didnt like my 13 tsx sedan at first especially in auto, but... i definitely learned to appreciate it. Long gears are great while on the highway but really take away from acceleration where as the 6 speed manual in the sedan does much better. Which id also love to experience. Also surprised at how well the paddles work
I traded in my TSX Tech on a newer Lexus GS350, and I'm still surprised how much I miss that TSX sometimes! I've been considering finding a wagon like this, but I'm still on the fence.
its always interesting seeing people review the TSX sport wagon because everytime people drive it they go "oh i want AWD!" "oh it needs a V6!" but what were totally ignoring here is honda already did that....the Honda Crosstour despite the name and marketing is a wagon, if the ride height genuinely displeases people simply lower it, it uses the 8th gen Accord Chassis so its a proper double wishbone front, but it uses the Viscous RealTime system, while not as advanced or capable as VTM4 or SH-AWD, AWD is AWD, and if yall still arent happy with that, mazda was brave enough to make the 1st gen Mazda 6 wagon (also with a great double wishbone front true multilink rear setup) not only V6 standard but also had a standard Manual transmission to boot granted its 3.0L V6 makes only 220HP, not quite the 265-270 J35's make but come on guys do you want the Manual or the J35
OMG...TEDWARD. I own 2 TSX Wagons. My wife has an exact clone of your Dad's. 2013 white with beige interior and the Tech package. I have a 2012 base model in Basque Red....both under 100K miles. You are spot on with your critique. It is a great overall car and ironically I like it more and more as it is a classic analog Honda without all the nanny driving aids. Does your dad have Brembo's or did you paint the calipers?. I'm thrilled that you reviewed this car. Thank you!
Good eye. OEM calipers and for whatever reason the ones he bought for replacement came red. We didn’t paint them. Possible they were rebuilt and painted by whoever did it.
There's one in my neighborhood that always catches me off guard 😂
But does the king of Japanese motoring news respond though?
didn’t even know these existed😭
I have one as a daily driver and love it to death! Nearly 530k miles on the original motor and transmission.
your whip is built different
Jesus...
@@cq1311 built in japan 🗾
530k miles?! WOW
what year do you have? TY.
Proud owner of a manual sedan. I bought the car 6 months ago while in the market for a GTI. After driving both, there was just something about the "hondaness" that won me over. This is also my first manual car and the 6-speed/k24 combination has been a dream to learn with. The reverse wine sounds exactly like my Dad's old '96 civic :) Great car in any form!
I had a 2004 TSX, then had 2 GTI's. While they're both great cars, there's something about the TSX that I liked more. Now I drive a 2.0t honda accord and it brings me the nostalgia I had with the TSX
I have a 2012 tsx manual. Clutch master cylinder has failed 4 times. You guys having any problems with yours?
Same here, I have a 2009 TSX 6 speed. Even more rare is that mine has the tech package, which was only offered with manual for 2009 and 2010 models. Bought it last year with 232K, has 240K now and since then I've put brand new OEM clutch, flywheel, master and slave cylinder.
@@ahyes589 previous owner must not have known how to drive manual. If driven correctly a clutch should never fail
@@chinchy111 There was only 1 owner before me, and he owned it for 12 years give or take. But I'm in Houston with some of the worst traffic ever so I'll blame it on that. Plus there's no shame in having new parts lol.
Proud owner of a blue 2013 TSX wagon with 177k miles! Glad to see this car is getting some much needed love, it is truly a fantastic daily.
Impressive! I've got a 2012 wagon with about 125K - glad to hear they last! Enjoy your ride!
@@Rahul-ce3no The K24 in these is bulletproof. I work at a Honda dealer and I've seen numerous K24's with over 250k. We had an Element in the showroom with almost 450k.
@@05Forenza 2012 tsx manual and the clutch master cylinder has failed 4 times. Do you see alot of them fail at your dealership?
@@chinchy111 I work on the sales side. So I can’t really detail out how many repairs I see. However, I see plenty being traded in with no issues
My 2012 Base TSX Wagon only has about 72k on the clock, and lives in the garage, so it feels like a new old-school Euro Honda. It's an excellent daily driver, not for winning stoplight races of course. The K24 is refined and responsive, and cruising down to Cape May is always a treat in my unicorn. I have not seen more than a couple in the past 6 months back here....feels a bit exotic.
There's just something about driving Hondas that's so satisfying. Thank you for showing a "normal car" today, it's a nice change of pace.
Also, yes! My neighbors had a CRV growing up and I always enjoyed the whine in reverse lol
Good old straight cut reverse gears lol.
Fun fact about (non-CVT, non-DCT, non-10 speed) Honda automatics...the internals are built exactly like a manual, which is why it sounds like one in reverse.
The mid-90s Accord 4spd auto we had would chip tires in 1st and 2nd and the shifts were fierce
There's a 8 Speed DTC and a 10 speed Honda automatic transmission build by Honda, they also aren't like the one in this. But about this 5 speed AT you're absolutely right.
@@mwelke90 Yeah that's what I was trying to say. All conventional (non-CVT, non-DCT, etc.) Honda autos have manual internals.
I currently have a 2011 TSX sedan, and I was extremely surprised with how much value you get with this car. The build quality is actually surprisingly nice and the k24 in it makes it quicker than most N/A 4 bangers, in sport with paddles you can rev it out even more and it will not upshift for you, get even more pull from it that way. And the handling dynamics, feels way sportier than I was expecting, I couldn’t be happier with it, it’s been a great reliable daily with a bunch of added bonuses that make it really enjoyable.
I have this one too! And i love it!
My friend has one, he got rid of his GTI for one. I drove it around the block at his request once during a photoshoot and it did have that modern Honda feel to me. I like it for sure. Any time I see a TSX now, I always try to see the rear to see if it's a wagon. Makes me so happy when it is a wagon
This car is a blast. My wife and I owned a 2013 TSX Sedan and just sold it a few years ago. It handled so well and drove so smoothly. Loved the sound system.
Proud owner of a TSX wagon with 87k. These car do hold their value and is Definitely a rare car . Road noise is from the winter tires. I recently changed from winter tires to daily all weather tires and the cars is quiet.
I drive a 3.5 v6 TL, and you’re absolutely right about the J35. Wonderful engine, and I love the car. Only engine mod I’ve done is an intake for sound purposes and it sings.
I have a 2011 with the V6 and it runs as smooth today as it did when new. Was considering getting a newer car, but couldn't really justify it. To get something that would be a step up would cost $45k+ So I just gave it a new paint job because that is all it needed, being left in the southern California sun 24/7 for 11 years.
I had a 2010 TSX 6mt for 6 years. It wasn't fast at all, but the combination of sound, handling, rev happiness makes it one of the most engaging driving experiences I've ever had. The car loves to be revved out!
NA 4 cylinders don’t suck! Big reason why I love my Mazda3 so much, especially with a manual! Power delivery is so much nicer and more responsive than a 1.5/1.6T
In theory, It wouldn't be too hard to do a v6-6mt swap since the accord of the same generation has that as an option. If you did that (and maybe a turbo if you're insane) it would be so sweet
@phillira28 has a turbo jwap 6 speed one on ig but it definitely wasn’t easy
Someone did a J37 swap, 6 speed manual swap and added SH-AWD to the TSX wagon
@@raf1320 I've been following that guy for a while and he's been putting tons of work in that car. seems like a huge process and it l think he does fabrication for a living
I just did a 6 speed swap!
It has a k24 so it can handle a good amount of boost.
My dad has the sedan version of this car! It’s a fun drive even if the 5 speed auto kind of neuters the K24
Your dad has a great taste.
Tedward described my reasoning for buying a TSX Wagon so accurately. I am an enthusiast that needs the daily driver who needs the space who needs the practicality but doesn't want the boredom of a boring vehicle
proud owner of a 2010 tech package sedan 200k miles strong and feels great. just wanted to point out it wont upshift for you or downshift when its in "sport" mode
if you dont touch the paddles in sport mode it will just drive 1 gear under (instead of 5 for the highway itll be in 4 & so forth)
I recently traded my old car for an old tsx and couldn’t be happier, that 205 hp feels perfect for windy road driving and keeps me from getting some tickets on the highway lol
I loved the dichotomy of the RSX, Civic, TSX, and Accord of older Honda’s and Acura’s. So much love and reliability
This is why I’m a Honda/Acura guy. They’re good cars made for people who focus on the driving aspects of cars.
I know that you usually put the cars you POV drive through their paces, but there is just something so "I'm 16 and this is my dad's car" about this video and I LOVE it HAHA! Don't tell my parents-- but I drive every car they've ever owned like this! 🤣
No matter how old I get, that dynamic will never change 😂
10:25 you have to put the transmission in sport and then use the paddle shifters to have full manual mode, you can hit and bang on the rev limiter with this, almost like an actual manual.
You are absolutely correct. I noticed he was in D mode. (My wifee and I each have one).
@@The_Noticer. yeah the gear ratios are long but I find that 2nd and 3rd gears are the best gears to stay in the powerband. You can get up to 60mph in 2nd gear, which is perfect for the backroads
@@NBPT428 yep, I have one as well and I remember losing a drag race to a Civic SI because I forgot to shift and I hit the limiter. I still haven’t gotten over that lol
True. Merging into the highway on S and using the paddles is pretty satisfying after a busy day at work.
I own this car as a daily and for traveling for work and it's by far one of the most well-built cars I've ever driven. It has 200k on the clock now, and minus the sunroof, everything still works in this car. It gets better than advertised fuel mileage, lots of utility, doesn't feel underpowered despite its weight. I could go on about this car, it's just a shame Honda/Acura didn't do more to make this successful for the masses.
I love the straight cut reverse sound in my 08 Civic Si, people will look at my car so weirdly sometimes when I reverse because of how noticeable it is
2010 J35 V6 TSX 5AT owner checking in and supporting the attention being brought to the wonderful TSX!
The Tedward sticker is like a marker : Ted was here. Conquered territory; a notch in the belt.
When dad finally let's you drive his wagon lol 😄
at the tender age of 33 I'm finally trusted with the family wagon
Proud owner (and rallycrosser) of the TSX wagon, made a review on it myself and you hit a lot of the same notes. Great fuel economy/throttle response, joyful handling, and remarkable practicality.
Fun fact: you can fit a full size spare under the trunk.
After looking for one for years I found one that was a trade in. 2013 wagon with 60k miles. Bought it on the first day they listed it because I knew it would get swept up quick. The K24 is a great engine for fun reliability. And I can rev it all the way out in manual mode. I’m in love. Her name is Meg thee wagon. Cause she got a fat ass. Love seeing all the wagon love!
I had a first gen TSX (2006) with the 6 speed manual. What a phenomenal vehicle. Great build quality, decent performance, reliability and comfort. Plus, it made me look back at it every time I got out of it. I ended up selling it after dailying it for a year (bought it with 123k miles, sold it with 145k miles. I had literally 0 problems). That car is my biggest regret of selling! It's even still my profile pic on here and I haven't owned it for about 4 years now.
I love this wagon, just the perfect daily driver if you want comfort, space and a fun to drive car. The chassis and engine are excellent, even the automatic is solid. I have 2 2006 TSX's, both manuals, 1 is my driver, solid with 240k, the other is low mile, clean and my toy/summer fun car. I love the gen1TSX, but the gen 2 is excellent
Was on my way to look at a Dodge Magnum when I got a call from my friend at a dealership that got one of these in stock. Bought it up instantly, I've always been a fan of Honda and always wanted a wagon for practicality. 140k miles, black with black leather seats, a massive amount of tint and a muffler delete. The exhaust is held up with a coat hanger but I'm gonna make this my forever car ❤
6:42 That Traverse backing out made me clench phew
Bought a 6 speed manual sedan about 7ish months ago for my first car, bought it for 2k AUD, its been brilliant to drive and so far is yet to let me down. First Honda I've ever driven, and its excellent. 250k kilometers (155k miles) and have had absolutely zero issues with it.
tsx's are amazing to drive. I have a 2005 tsx with 300k kms with the 6 speed manual
Always wanted one of these but opted for an older V70 with the great I5 instead. Wagons are the best!
How's the v70 treating you now? In between that and the tsx wagon. Lol
7:57 Yeah I have a 2005 Acura TL 5AT as my daily (also is my first car) and I have driven my Dad's 2020 Civic here and there and all I can say is that these Hondas are 100% made by people who like to drive. I can 100% relate to this video
You need to be in Sport mode to have full manual control. You can use the paddles in Drive, but you will be overridden within a few seconds if you don't shift.
What I miss about these is that the computer actually lets you use first gear. On the newer 10 speed Acura models you have to hit the left paddle around 2000rpm while continuously on the throttle to "prevent" the upshift, and MAYBE it will let you hit about 4500 before it forces the shift to second gear (depending on traction).
The TSX was the last Acura sedan that had SOMEWHAT of an analog sense of control, even with the automatic. You can rev match by blipping the throttle like you would on a true manual. They aren't fast cars, but they are fun and actually sound great.
They actually did make the sedans available with both the J35 and a manual transmission, but it was either or, unfortunately. I believe sales would have interfered with the TL.
I've never seen an Acura wagon, cool. My dad's car is a 2010 Accord with this awesome K24 engine, 2.4L 4Cyl but with 190 horsepower. It's not as fuel efficient as I'd like but it accelerates surprisingly strong when you wring it out as you said... V-TEC! The auto transmission is good majority of the time but sometimes it bogs down as it's trying to stay fuel efficient- you explained it well in the vid. It's surprisingly more sport tuned than luxury tuned as you also said- great handling, tight suspension but a little harsh on the bumps. My K24 has a shudder/rattle sound on cold start sometimes which Honda said is not an issue, but it's a common annoyance/occurance which many ppl reported but Honda doesn't ackowledge or offer a fix. Apparently it has to do w/ a "VTC Actuator" and the engine oil. Luckily there's been no problems with the engine or oil levels/quality over 200,000 kms driven.
The VTC actuator is filled with oil which drains out over time cause its at the top of the engine. when you start it after sitting for a while, the parts inside smack together until oil pressure builds, causing the rattle noise.
@@silentsniper441 ohh thanks for the explanation, that makes sense as to what's occurring.
Honda Automatics are basically manuals with automatic clutch packs on each gear. Theirs no planatary gear sets that's why you get the whine on reverse because it retaines the same reverse gear you'll find in a manual. The new Honda 10 speed is a planetary gearset they can handle alot more torque.
The gauges remind me of the ones in volvo s60r from like 2004
I’ve been waiting for this day for soooo long. I always see it in the background in the videos
I got the same wagon but with full black leather interior. Daily for three years. Best car I’ve ever owned
Hell yeah! I've been wanting this review since I saw it on your driveway!
Wagon Geng geng! Love that you did a video on my Car 💜 you never see anyone talk about these “Honda unicorns”
This would be the perfect daily/car to share with a spouse who can’t drive a manual. Thanks, Tedward for getting this out. Myself and others have been requesting this one and glad to see you’re receptive!
Glad to see that excellent taste in cars runs in the family!
bro ive been waiting for u to cover this car
I’m an Acura tech and the people who own these love them and they’ll probably never sell them. If they made them awd with a manual transmission I think they would have sold so many cars.
More wagons! Can’t get enough of them.
I drive a 2012 auto TSX with the K24. Best car I've ever driven. In spite of it being an auto, I find that the transmission works very well with the engine. The car handles lovely, and I will keep it at least another ten years!
ITS BACK AGAIN! I love this car!
That's a lovely family car right there
I own a 2012 TSX wagon with 80k miles on it. Love it.
Those paddles are so smart. Shifting while turning the wheel may be less confusing in this.
I have a 2004 tsx with almost 300.000 miles and it dives like a champ 😊 good cars 🚙
Got me a manual sedan that now has 202,000 miles and that thing still rips! So much fun as a daily driver and the manual does make it feel a lot spicier on the throttle. I drive the wheels off that car most days and it could not be more reliable if you change the oil!!
for nearly 5 years I had a 2nd gen 09 tsx, vortex blue pearl with the same parchment leather interior, with the same tech package. I had the amazing 6spd. Best car I ever owned. Sold it with 365,000km or around 225k mi. No problems at all. Didn't burn oil. I was anal about upkeep though and did things well before their due dates. I cleaned my seats and scrubbed each inch of the seats once a year. I ended up getting a 3rd gen lexus IS and while it's great, I miss my manual every day. I also miss the fuel economy as I would regularly get 700km to a tank (premium) ~ 8.4l/100km. Don't even ask me about fuel economy now LMAO. If you are thinking about getting this car, it is a must have. Interior is nicely designed and appointed, comes with great features for its time, good on fuel, and reliable as heck - so much so I contemplated if the lexus could be as reliable as the Honda lmao. While not amazingly fast, it is more than fast enough for 90% of situations. The one thing that hindered this car (and all fwd cars) is being fwd. Absolute beast. I miss my old blue and hope she's serving her new owner well.
This is a really underrated but awesome wagon
I own an 8th generation accord coupe, the tsx’s sibling, and the k24z3 in these cars bolt up with the k24z7 in the 9th gen si so what could be done is converting the wagon to a manual that comes with an lsd from the factory, add some power mods (RBC intake can be adapted to the engine, also the 9th gen si roots supercharger manifold if you’re crazy enough) and the wagon could be a proper canyon carver with the go to back it up.
I had a 2012 wagon tech for 2 years and it was probably the best daily driver I’ll ever own. I recently traded it in for a 2012 gx460 and while the gx is a better overall vehicle. I still miss my wagon.
this is what i watch youtube for.
we had it with 6MT in europe. Last Accord for us tho... Amazing car in the top trim.
Was looking for one of these before finding an manual I30. I love the way these look and I would still like to have one should another chance appear.
Great Vid Tedward!
-Luis
Yeah the wagons look very very good!! I drive the TSX 4 Door variant with the 6 Speed on the K24 and its a fun car to drive and its very comfy and luxurious inside. Excellent find.
I have a white Tsx wagon with 55k. I love it to pieces. Wish I knew it took premium only before buying 😂
Proud owner of a '13 TSX SportWagon! Just bought mines earlier this year and I absolutely love it, only thing I don't like is the mpg I get
yeah the mpgs on this thing are a joke
Is300 Sportcross and Tsx wagon is my dream combo
You’ve just convinced me to buy my Dad’s 2013 Accord Euro instead of his ‘08 Lexus IS250. You’re right the 4 cyl VTEC is as good as a 6 in many ways. The Honda’s sell as a discount to Lexus in Australia yet they’re as well spec’d as Acura’s in the States. And the Lexus is actually pretty sluggish even with the V6. And with only about 30k km on the clock the Accord is basically as good as it drove out of the dealership.
I have had mine for 4 years and love it ! It’s not stock and I plan on doing a CT supercharger on it but with just a tune its nice !
The reason for the gear whine is that Honda's automatic transmission is mechanically very similar to a manual transmission. It has a gear set like a manual rather than a set of clutch packs. Part of why Honda automatics last so long.
its just a straight cut reverse gear. thats all it is.
@TedwardDrives yes that's the reason for the whine. But the reason it's got a straight cut reverse gear is because it's built just like Honda manual transmissions which also have a straight cut reverse gear. Rather than a traditional auto using planetary gearsets and clutch packs.
Awesome vid man! 🔥
I have a second generation TL, I absolutely love the thing.
I literally just watched your review last week on the winding road magazine channel, knew I heard this story about it being your dad's car before haha
Love my 07 TSX That K24 is amazing !
I just got a 2010 Honda Accord Tourer 2.4 5AT because the 6MT ones are unicorns in Europe. I have seen a few manuals with the Type S package with just one with the Executive Business package (full leather electronic seats, sunroof, navi, backup camera, adaptive cruise, lane keep assist). It's a very comfy cruiser. Very different from my old 6MT CL9 Type S.
Tried to sleep, can’t sleep, pulse/heart rate suddenly shot through the roof….again… have now jumped out of bed watching this to calm back down.
Happy to help! Hope you managed a good night sleep
I love my Pontiac Vibe "Sport wagon!" I think wagons are a very well kept secret.
I really, really tried to buy a TSX around 2011. The wagons were impossible to find especially used. The V6 sedan was even more of a unicorn and expensive. And the 4 cylinder sedan was not enough of an upgrade from my 4 cylinder Accord to justify the cost. Even with the expense, I would have found a way to buy the wagon, if the V6 was an option. It wasn't, so I bought a Accord V6 Coupe instead.
I recently bought a 2012 tsx v6 3.5 sedan and they are actually rare to find especially where i live in new york i was lucky 👍
that interior kind of looks like the 2014 Honda Crv
I seriously considered one a couple of years ago (as an Accord version in Europe). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to source the right spec (full options + light interior) and they are now rather old by my wife standards. So I ended up in an S60 while I really wanted a V60. That's life.
Nice comprehensive review as always, Tedward!
I have a 2010 sedan manual and it's a great daily. Have some parts that were exclusive to other countries that I put on, and while it definitely has some nice creature comforts, the US actually got the short end of the stick in terms of features and technology. Mine currently has 146k miles and still drives great. No real rattles or noises, even after going through being bagged for a bit. As long as you don't expect it to be fast it is actually surprising how peppy the 6MT can feel despite being underpowered. No issues around town or even merging on the highway, and the low power makes you want to ring it out often, which being a Honda is no sweat for it
Also, I believe you need to keep it in Sport mode if you want it to not just automatically upshift by itself
Thanks for the v6 Honda shoutout 😁
I have the sedan version of the 2012 TSX tecnology with the 3.5 v6 j35 280hp and I love it ❤
I miss my TSX Sportwagon. Was rear ended and totaled right before we had our first baby. I fit a damn 65 inch tv in the trunk. Lol
My current daily driver greatest car I’ve owned
3:24 the newer hondas with the 1.5t such as the civic and crv definitely fit the bill for this
I have a 7th gen accord k24 and despite it being slow It’s a blast to drive. I also learned that the reverse whine is NORMAL?? I always thought something was up!?!
Was in the market for a reliable and safe wagon and considered this, but ultimately bought a Prius v mostly because these are so rare
My dad has a 2008 Accord Wagon with the 2.4, and it's a manual. He spent a year or so looking for those exact specs
I have a 2014 sedan and I love the car. I came from a 6 speed 8th gen civic si but I feel like more of an adult driving the tsx😂
Have a friend with one of these and an S2000. Great Honda 2 car solution
I want one of these wagons badly. Get a tune itll help a bit with acceleration and the throttle input. I didnt like my 13 tsx sedan at first especially in auto, but... i definitely learned to appreciate it. Long gears are great while on the highway but really take away from acceleration where as the 6 speed manual in the sedan does much better. Which id also love to experience.
Also surprised at how well the paddles work
I traded in my TSX Tech on a newer Lexus GS350, and I'm still surprised how much I miss that TSX sometimes!
I've been considering finding a wagon like this, but I'm still on the fence.
I’ve seen maybe 3 of this in my life lol and I’m 21, I love the ELS sound system my 2013 Acura ILX Technology had it it was the BEST
its always interesting seeing people review the TSX sport wagon because everytime people drive it they go "oh i want AWD!" "oh it needs a V6!" but what were totally ignoring here is honda already did that....the Honda Crosstour despite the name and marketing is a wagon, if the ride height genuinely displeases people simply lower it, it uses the 8th gen Accord Chassis so its a proper double wishbone front, but it uses the Viscous RealTime system, while not as advanced or capable as VTM4 or SH-AWD, AWD is AWD, and if yall still arent happy with that, mazda was brave enough to make the 1st gen Mazda 6 wagon (also with a great double wishbone front true multilink rear setup) not only V6 standard but also had a standard Manual transmission to boot granted its 3.0L V6 makes only 220HP, not quite the 265-270 J35's make but come on guys do you want the Manual or the J35
You should do a hatch/wagon series where you go over enthusiast hatches/wagons
Love from India 💝
OMG...TEDWARD. I own 2 TSX Wagons. My wife has an exact clone of your Dad's. 2013 white with beige interior and the Tech package. I have a 2012 base model in Basque Red....both under 100K miles. You are spot on with your critique. It is a great overall car and ironically I like it more and more as it is a classic analog Honda without all the nanny driving aids. Does your dad have Brembo's or did you paint the calipers?. I'm thrilled that you reviewed this car. Thank you!
Good eye. OEM calipers and for whatever reason the ones he bought for replacement came red. We didn’t paint them. Possible they were rebuilt and painted by whoever did it.