Thanks for the great content. I have used the neck index since 2009, didn't know it had a name. We did a lot of low light shooting for our security force qualifications in the Navy. The chapman and FBI Techniques were taught but I couldn't see the sights on our beat up 92's so I started doing my own version of the neck index and it improved my night shooting scores.
One of the keys in shooting with a hand held light is that you need to be confident shooting one handed. When your support hand is occupied with a hand held light, it provides minimal support of the gun. Whatever support you get is all the better, but you are still shooting one handed. You are essentially multi-tasking; shooting one handed and operating the light with the other hand. What ever help you can get from the hand with the light is welcome. But you are still shooting one handed. These are great videos, by the way.
We taught the Rodgers technique (We called it Cigar/Syringe) but the key is to choke back a bit on the light. Squeeze it between your index and middle finger tight and get it right under the barrel and use your strongside knuckle to turn it on and off. You can easily modify your lights by wrapping the end cap with hockey tape. The light is pointed slightly down but if you are using anything over 100 lumens you are going to light up your target.
You are welcome! With the limited amount of classes Ernest teaches, the long waitlists, and limited resources of many, we wanted to share this information so that people could learn at their own pace.
Probably because I'm old and been doing this for a long time I'll chime in. I was taught the "neck index" was an evolution of the FBI technique. Back 25 plus years ago flashlights were huge metal things and HEAVY. Trying to search and then shoot with them was awkward at best. To accommodate for the size and weight guys, meaning men and women, would start to rest the butt end of a maglight/streamlight on their shoulder and search and shoot in sort of a gun turret style. Also the Chapman technique involves wrapping the three smaller fingers of the support hand around the front of the gun. The way Langdon is showing is the "speed Chapman", also called the Ayoob technique. Ayoob advocated using the Chapman if the shooter had time to prepare for the encounter, and Ayoob is the encounter was sudden and unexpected.
You are correct. I am showing the "Speed Chapman" here, as taught to me at the Chapman Academy in 1992, 31 years ago. I am also old :) Wrapping the fingers around is almost impossible with a full-size flashlight unless you have "Ray Chapman" size hands. His hands were huge, and his fingers were super long. You may be dating yourself a bit, as it was even longer than that. The smaller Surefire and, before that, Laser Products flashlights have been around for a long time. I was issued my first 6P in 1992 as well. Although, the smaller flashlights did not become a standard LE issue item until many years later.
Doesn’t the neck technique put you at just as much risk as the first three techniques ? I’d say the fbi one is the one to practice or maybe a combo of the neck and fbi somewhere in the middle
Yes, that is exactly the point. Locate and identify with the light away from your body, and the neck index is easy to adapt to quickly if needed. The other techniques take way too long to get into from a searching technique.
The fbi technique is kind of stupid in many cases because it still illuminates your sidearm. And a skilled shooter will know a sidearm is aligned high center mass. It is a great technique for discovery. The best way to fight in darkness is use it as cover, disengage if you can and draw the threat out
It seems like many tutorials of gunfight techniques overlook the simple fact that if you can attain safety and disengage, that should be priority number 1.
This is part 4 of a 5 part video series. Watch all 5 parts. Both are needed. A handheld to not point the pistol to just identify something as well as having one attached. There is a playlist for the whole handgun series but they're currently not in order in the low light section. Low Light 1: watch?v=y6lYHW4imA0 Low Light 2: watch?v=CnUiMF1ZHqc Low Light 3: watch?v=4ljkZcW2Xf4 Low Light 4: You are here. Low Light 5: watch?v=pzSVIjUZdyk
LOL, that is almost like asking what pants do you wear. Ernest carries a Surefire Stiletto most of the time these days. But that can change. He also often carries the Streamlight MicroStream. Come back in a year, and it could change just like other things change. Flashlight technology is moving very fast.
Thanks for the great content. I have used the neck index since 2009, didn't know it had a name. We did a lot of low light shooting for our security force qualifications in the Navy. The chapman and FBI Techniques were taught but I couldn't see the sights on our beat up 92's so I started doing my own version of the neck index and it improved my night shooting scores.
One of the keys in shooting with a hand held light is that you need to be confident shooting one handed. When your support hand is occupied with a hand held light, it provides minimal support of the gun. Whatever support you get is all the better, but you are still shooting one handed. You are essentially multi-tasking; shooting one handed and operating the light with the other hand. What ever help you can get from the hand with the light is welcome. But you are still shooting one handed. These are great videos, by the way.
We taught the Rodgers technique (We called it Cigar/Syringe) but the key is to choke back a bit on the light. Squeeze it between your index and middle finger tight and get it right under the barrel and use your strongside knuckle to turn it on and off.
You can easily modify your lights by wrapping the end cap with hockey tape.
The light is pointed slightly down but if you are using anything over 100 lumens you are going to light up your target.
Don't forget to remind viewers to not just subscribe but set the bell to 'all'.
You gotta quit spoiling us with all this great, free info.
Much appreciated.
You are welcome! With the limited amount of classes Ernest teaches, the long waitlists, and limited resources of many, we wanted to share this information so that people could learn at their own pace.
God bless the entire Langdon family. Thank you.
Great seeing all light postions
Awesome information. thank you LTT.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Probably because I'm old and been doing this for a long time I'll chime in. I was taught the "neck index" was an evolution of the FBI technique. Back 25 plus years ago flashlights were huge metal things and HEAVY. Trying to search and then shoot with them was awkward at best. To accommodate for the size and weight guys, meaning men and women, would start to rest the butt end of a maglight/streamlight on their shoulder and search and shoot in sort of a gun turret style. Also the Chapman technique involves wrapping the three smaller fingers of the support hand around the front of the gun. The way Langdon is showing is the "speed Chapman", also called the Ayoob technique. Ayoob advocated using the Chapman if the shooter had time to prepare for the encounter, and Ayoob is the encounter was sudden and unexpected.
You are correct. I am showing the "Speed Chapman" here, as taught to me at the Chapman Academy in 1992, 31 years ago. I am also old :)
Wrapping the fingers around is almost impossible with a full-size flashlight unless you have "Ray Chapman" size hands. His hands were huge, and his fingers were super long.
You may be dating yourself a bit, as it was even longer than that. The smaller Surefire and, before that, Laser Products flashlights have been around for a long time. I was issued my first 6P in 1992 as well. Although, the smaller flashlights did not become a standard LE issue item until many years later.
Any idea when the next batch of 92 Elite LTT compacts will be ready?
We do not have a delivery schedule from Beretta... or any information on when and if they are going to build more. Trust us, we are frustrated too.
@@LangdonTactical dang that stinks but I really appreciate the reply. Thanks!
Doesn’t the neck technique put you at just as much risk as the first three techniques ? I’d say the fbi one is the one to practice or maybe a combo of the neck and fbi somewhere in the middle
Yes, that is exactly the point. Locate and identify with the light away from your body, and the neck index is easy to adapt to quickly if needed. The other techniques take way too long to get into from a searching technique.
Is that a Modlite and is it the okw or plhv2 head?
it is a PLH-V2
The fbi technique is kind of stupid in many cases because it still illuminates your sidearm. And a skilled shooter will know a sidearm is aligned high center mass. It is a great technique for discovery.
The best way to fight in darkness is use it as cover, disengage if you can and draw the threat out
It seems like many tutorials of gunfight techniques overlook the simple fact that if you can attain safety and disengage, that should be priority number 1.
Did he explain why he goes with the handheld method instead of attaching the light to the handgun ?
This is part 4 of a 5 part video series. Watch all 5 parts. Both are needed. A handheld to not point the pistol to just identify something as well as having one attached.
There is a playlist for the whole handgun series but they're currently not in order in the low light section.
Low Light 1: watch?v=y6lYHW4imA0
Low Light 2: watch?v=CnUiMF1ZHqc
Low Light 3: watch?v=4ljkZcW2Xf4
Low Light 4: You are here.
Low Light 5: watch?v=pzSVIjUZdyk
Thanks for helping our viewers out!
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The least I can do for all the great info.
what Flashlights do you use?
LOL, that is almost like asking what pants do you wear. Ernest carries a Surefire Stiletto most of the time these days. But that can change. He also often carries the Streamlight MicroStream. Come back in a year, and it could change just like other things change. Flashlight technology is moving very fast.
That part where he said “what works for Jonah might not work for you” was really weird for me
Dear god I wish I was an American. 😭😭😭