Honestly I don’t think i’ve ever seen such a complete rugby player as PSDT. He’s truly the perfect combination of thoroughbred and workhorse. For a guy of that size and build to move like that almost defies physics, and his offloading and handling skills seem to be getting better every week. In almost every line break by the speedsters (think Kriel, Arendse, Kolbe, etc.) he’s right there as the closest support runner, his defensive skills are second to none, and his engine is something out of myth. From the first minute of the game to the 80th there’s absolutely zero drop off. It doesn’t even make sense!
I’d be stoked if Ox gets player of the year. He’s played a massive role in the Boks’ success the last 12 months. If he doesn’t get it, I don’t know how much more a prop has to do to get it.
Props are the goalkeepers of rugby though unfortunatly. You could be literally the perfect player and you will never be in the conversation for GOAT or the best player in the world because of backline and flashyness bias. You literally see it happening today where the Europeans are so absolutely convinced that Dupont is the goat meanwhile he's done literally nothing of note in the game
Fassi's redemption arc is just incredible. RasNaber gave him homework when he was dropped. He didn't run away from the challenge. He did not follow other wingers to France. He did his homework and then some. He is playing his best rugby for the Boks right now. Damian Willemse, you have a fight on your hands
The Boks' best pivot by 2.836 country miles. Get Sanele Nohamba of the Lions at 9 and you'll have the world's best halfback pairing by about the same mileage.
I reckon three Boks are in the running for World Player of the Year. Both Cheslin Kolbe and PSDT would be worthy winners, but I would give it to Ox Nche, by the narrowest of margins. He's just grown so much this year, and is now pretty close to the all-round perfect loosehead prop. Savage in the scrum, great as a ball carrier and works is butt off in defense. Not sure World Rugby have it in them to give the award to a frontranker though.
Big selection headaches ahead for the Boks. Who do you back at 9, 10 and 15 with an eye on the next WC? At least 4 or 5 scrumhalves have put up their hands, at flyhalf you have Pollard, Manie and SFM and three doesn't go into two. But the biggest headache is probably at 15 where Fassi has just made a big statement, but at the same time Quan Horn played arguably his best ever game for the Lions against Ulster, Jordan Hendrikse looks like he was made for fullback at the Sharks (and kicks 60m penalties for fun), Damian Willemse is back, and Willie hasn't gone anywhere either. And let's not forget about the centres either - the Lions' Henco van Wyk is finally back after his long knee injury absence, and in my opinion he is the kind of guy who simply has to play as many games for the Boks as possible.
Libbok was great, what made him so good was the fact that he consistently kept his eyes on the defense to prevent intterceptions, which he did multiple times, excellent kicks and just general good running, he proved to me why he still deserves to be there
Howzit Mark Big up from a Saffa. I agree with every selection every week. True to God, you know talent when you see it and give recognition where it is due. But mate, Tupou Vaa'i before Etzebeth? Blame me for being biased, but that man was more visible in the first 120 seconds than Tupou Vaa'i was in 80 minutes. I think Tupou Vaa'i is an excellent football player and his future is his to dictate but man recognize the game, the event, and the legacy that was crafted on Saturday by the legend who is Eben Etzebeth. Still love your podcast, you are true ambassador of the game. Keep it up bud, much love from a Saffa.
There's no doubting what Libbok is capable of, the issue is you never know which Libbok you going to get on the day, and appears vulnerable to any form of pressure whatsoever, beyond simply kicking for poles concerns.
Eggchasers' was team of the tournament wasn't it? Bit different compared to team of the week. I'd agree with Mark's team of the week choices except for not including Eben
Taylor has a good case to be the player of the tourney. PSDT has been great. Montoya had a good tourney. Sad to see Chocobares forced off with injury. He was consistently great during the RC. Love me some Ox, though. Salads don't win scrums! Great coverage USD/NZD 0.02.
I enjoy commentaries very much. They are always informative and objective. It is obvious that you know the game of rugby very well. Please keep up the good work 😊
I think playing against Australia, one's stats should be high/looking incredibly good. Too many all blacks in this team tbh. I'd replace em with a couple of those Argies!
As a springboks fan we were bitterly disappointed with the round 5 result against argintina. Love to hear the deserved praise for our boks but if we want to be the best team of all time, we HAVE to really be pushing for a good long win streak or the perfect season which was achieved by the great all blacks team in 2013 and onward. Or is this an old fashioned was of thought considering teams are overall much more competitive and any team especially and argintina team can pitch up on the day. Are we supposed to be taking the wins as they come and moving on from losses quicker or is the goal still to be winning game after game on the bounce. Cheers for the vids 👍
I'm also a Bok supporter but I think winning each and every game is just not being realistic in the modern era. Too many excellent other teams. And, in fact, I don't want it otherwise.
@@sandorclegane3658 yea completely agree, I'm only asking that in the process of building does that mean we need to be okay with loosing multiple tests per year? You'd have to think the both the Irish loss and the argintina loss weren't necessary. We lost against the Irish in the last 2 minutes but winning that match I don't think would've taught us any less. Same with agri game, yes we were far from the mark but of mannie makes the kick or we score the try off of the maul that manie missed touch on. I don't think we would've learnt any less by winning than we would've gained by the loss. Both preventable losses is sort of the point I'm making
@@sandorclegane3658 but is he building new talent? I see him relying on the old hands in the big games. For an exercise, take out all the 32/33 year olds in the team and see who is left for the RWC. A team of 35/36 year olds wont win it.
I don`t blame Manie for not being better with conversions he`s just not good enough , to blame is Rassie not only for having someone not converting but its impact on the players confidence , even the master makes mistakes Hope you , your good Lady and the Weans have a great time
Sorry for the shity translation of IA: Speaking of refereeing, I don’t want to make a simplistic analysis; we can’t reduce it to good or bad refereeing, it’s more complex than that. There’s a version that wants to prove its thesis that “bad refereeing” is only perceived that way by the losers, and to demonstrate this, it takes actions that validate this while discarding or minimizing others. To do that analysis properly, we would have to see all the infractions, but that also wouldn’t give us a true measure of the refereeing. There are people that want to show that the biased perception of the loser sees biased refereeing where there isn’t any. In last Saturday’s match, the moment an nonexistent or at least questionable foul is called is important. Undoubtedly, the nonexistent penalty against Grondona when Argentina had just scored a try and was coming in positively (for that, they should call when the ball is thrown crooked to the scrum by the 9 with the book in hand) was a turning point. And then we enter the territory of “what if we had played that lineup on their field when we were on the rise?” I agree that Boke doesn’t need any favors from the referee; they defend themselves because they are beasts, and they would have won by half a point because one-on-one, they are excellent, and as a team today, they are better. Lightning doesn’t strike twice in the same place.What I mean is that the Pumas are the poor little brother who has just joined the family business of Tier 1. They didn’t get in like Italy did because their parents paid for a Master’s at MIT and financed them as a chronic student for 20 years; the Pumas went to public school, started their startup, and today it’s a success due to their own merit. The other brothers from the 6 Nations and Tri Nations could no longer pretend to be foolish, and they were brought into the company. But beware, the accountants, lawyers, and engineers of the family business all respond and know who pays their salaries and maintains their status, and they are not these poor savages with an invented black legend for playing dirty (they call it physicality and grit, which is all that Anglo-Saxon journalism highlights about the Pumas). That’s why the refereeing last Saturday is not an exception; it’s the rule for almost all referees against Argentina. We’re not saying that Ben O Trickffie has been given a briefcase to whistle against them; it’s that he, like his fellow international referees, consciously and unconsciously knows who owns the Circus. The scrutiny applied to Argentina in refereeing is not the same as for the rich older brothers. The Boke can enter rucks with a machete, from above, from the side, from below; if the player gets a second of touching the ball, it’s Pumas’ retention. For them to call that on the Pumas, five eternal seconds have to pass with the player receiving caresses from the opposing front row, etc. (it's just a small example). And this makes you play with fear, not at the limit of the infraction as rugby should be played. This subtlety-being psychological-changes the narrative.It’s curious that in this corporate analogy we don’t have any lawyers or accountants in the company (which international referee does Argentina have?) There are good referees in Argentina, but anyone who wants to reach that level will have to wear kneepads and be more papist than the pope or than Jako. Just look at how all the Tier 1 staffs have former referees in their ranks, so that we see that referees aren’t cloistered monks, but mercenaries in a way. Everyone has a price and knows who pays it. From there onward, the subtleties that tilt the playing field are evident. Once again, the rich older brothers don’t want us to grow, and they cut themselves off when they see us gaining momentum (cuts from the Rugby Championship by the Boke and AB). But I also understand that the Pumas got there not by adhering to a victimhood that is more typical of the Chileans, but by poking the eyes of these abusive brothers. Go, Pumas!!!
The work done by Bongi in the tight exchanges goes unnoticed.
the score noticed it
Honestly I don’t think i’ve ever seen such a complete rugby player as PSDT. He’s truly the perfect combination of thoroughbred and workhorse. For a guy of that size and build to move like that almost defies physics, and his offloading and handling skills seem to be getting better every week.
In almost every line break by the speedsters (think Kriel, Arendse, Kolbe, etc.) he’s right there as the closest support runner, his defensive skills are second to none, and his engine is something out of myth. From the first minute of the game to the 80th there’s absolutely zero drop off. It doesn’t even make sense!
The man is workhorse- especially on D - not to mention he’s 6 foot 7 👀
Yeah but have you ever heard of Antoine Du Kak? He's "tHe bEsT pLaYeR iN tHe WoRlD"
So happy he plays for the Boks :) best in the world
@tsaki_titan yip, Du Pont best in the world? Not even sure he'd be selected for the Boks.
I wouldn't swop any of our squad for him.
@@Nicholas-fw1id LOL He will bench Faf and you know it 😂
Agreed Ox should be nominated for player of the year...\0/
84 tackles for Wiese is pretty good
84 metres 😂
I agree. Pretty good. No missed tackles either.
I am more impressed with his three passes!!
Only good? Blady brilliant😂
i got scared when i saw that who is this monster
I’d be stoked if Ox gets player of the year. He’s played a massive role in the Boks’ success the last 12 months. If he doesn’t get it, I don’t know how much more a prop has to do to get it.
Props are the goalkeepers of rugby though unfortunatly. You could be literally the perfect player and you will never be in the conversation for GOAT or the best player in the world because of backline and flashyness bias. You literally see it happening today where the Europeans are so absolutely convinced that Dupont is the goat meanwhile he's done literally nothing of note in the game
IRB even tried to limit the effectiveness of the scrum and Ox chose to ignore that and make it even more dominant
He should totally get a nomination. Not sure if he should win over PSDT but he should def get acknowledged.
One Wallaby in the team -- thats about right.
Actually - thats about McReight! 😂
Fassi's redemption arc is just incredible. RasNaber gave him homework when he was dropped. He didn't run away from the challenge. He did not follow other wingers to France. He did his homework and then some. He is playing his best rugby for the Boks right now. Damian Willemse, you have a fight on your hands
Oh know you didn't Damien say whaaaat .True Dat
There seems to be a growing universal call for Ox as player of the year but it will give Sir JK a heart attack. So let's forget about that one.
Libbok best ball in hand flyhalf. Absolutely lethal runner, passer, creative decision maker, open play kicker. He deserves a Percy Montgomery
The Boks' best pivot by 2.836 country miles. Get Sanele Nohamba of the Lions at 9 and you'll have the world's best halfback pairing by about the same mileage.
@@wouterswanepoel5753 agreed!!
PSDT unbelievable 🙌🏾
But OX for me is a solid stand out player. My absolute HERO 💪
I reckon three Boks are in the running for World Player of the Year. Both Cheslin Kolbe and PSDT would be worthy winners, but I would give it to Ox Nche, by the narrowest of margins. He's just grown so much this year, and is now pretty close to the all-round perfect loosehead prop. Savage in the scrum, great as a ball carrier and works is butt off in defense. Not sure World Rugby have it in them to give the award to a frontranker though.
We need a team of the tournament, Mark.
Definitely!!
Big selection headaches ahead for the Boks. Who do you back at 9, 10 and 15 with an eye on the next WC? At least 4 or 5 scrumhalves have put up their hands, at flyhalf you have Pollard, Manie and SFM and three doesn't go into two. But the biggest headache is probably at 15 where Fassi has just made a big statement, but at the same time Quan Horn played arguably his best ever game for the Lions against Ulster, Jordan Hendrikse looks like he was made for fullback at the Sharks (and kicks 60m penalties for fun), Damian Willemse is back, and Willie hasn't gone anywhere either. And let's not forget about the centres either - the Lions' Henco van Wyk is finally back after his long knee injury absence, and in my opinion he is the kind of guy who simply has to play as many games for the Boks as possible.
I think you guys will be right 😂 ye have an embarrassment of riches . Congrats on your Chamionshio title
Jasper Wiese 84 tackles!!?! Out of a total of 109 all up, that's amazing 😂!
they all ran into him in a straight line
No, that was 84 running meters.
Church of Fassi, son of Libbok and Ox of the tournament
Me like it 😂😂😂
Looking forward to Team of the Tournament. Two names are a given: Ox and PSDT.
Hey Mark, please do another depth chart🙏👍 now that 6 nations and rugby championship are done. Would be interesting
You got a new Bok jersey! Nice, I prefer the darker green.
You dont have a South African Accent But as a South African, thank you for your support
Codie Taylor is currently playing like a captain.
Rassie doesn’t put too much weight on stats when the opposition is not strong.
True Dat .You can't compare when playing against soft opponents
Bongi and Etzebeth were snubbed tbh
They both were excellent in the tifht areas and that went unnoticed and unmentioned
Thank God rassie is an honourable man that's fair and dont just cast aside players based on one game. Theres always a long term objective.
Libbok was great, what made him so good was the fact that he consistently kept his eyes on the defense to prevent intterceptions, which he did multiple times, excellent kicks and just general good running, he proved to me why he still deserves to be there
This might be the first time Fassi's in a totw? Big strides
Great stats and thank you for the fab TOTWs
Shout-out to Etzebeth
Howzit Mark
Big up from a Saffa.
I agree with every selection every week. True to God, you know talent when you see it and give recognition where it is due. But mate, Tupou Vaa'i before Etzebeth? Blame me for being biased, but that man was more visible in the first 120 seconds than Tupou Vaa'i was in 80 minutes. I think Tupou Vaa'i is an excellent football player and his future is his to dictate but man recognize the game, the event, and the legacy that was crafted on Saturday by the legend who is Eben Etzebeth.
Still love your podcast, you are true ambassador of the game. Keep it up bud, much love from a Saffa.
The stats aren't telling the full story. Barrett didn't seem to have much affect on the game. Maybe i missed it tho
Not sure how you can pick Taylor over mbonambi, lomax over malherbe and Barrett over etzebeth?
There's no doubting what Libbok is capable of, the issue is you never know which Libbok you going to get on the day, and appears vulnerable to any form of pressure whatsoever, beyond simply kicking for poles concerns.
Codie Taylor must be the new All Blacks captain.
your voice sounded a bit salty when speaking about the PSDT try
ALB is worth his weight in gold, so under- utilised imo
Best centre in nz, don’t know how he’s not starting every week.
When jordie comes back would love to see ALB at centre with him, Reiko be a good guy off the bench
@@brentwithey4241 but he doesn't run directly at centre. He plays better at 2nd 5.
You played the Ausies so can't really get excited to the all Blacks stats
And you played 13/14 men for half the game.
@@barneyboy2008 And absolutely smashed them. Or are you inferring that the All Blacks are better than the Boks?
Sorry some of these don't make sense prefer egg chasers team this time around.
Eggchasers' was team of the tournament wasn't it? Bit different compared to team of the week. I'd agree with Mark's team of the week choices except for not including Eben
Agree 💯
Ok my bad be that as it may Frans should have been number 3. He came back scrums went bezerk.
Taylor has a good case to be the player of the tourney. PSDT has been great. Montoya had a good tourney. Sad to see Chocobares forced off with injury. He was consistently great during the RC. Love me some Ox, though. Salads don't win scrums! Great coverage USD/NZD 0.02.
Thank for all your hard work getting these stat's mate
LOMAX 😂😂😂
The Italian tank. 1gear forward and 6 Reverse in the scrum.
I enjoy commentaries very much. They are always informative and objective. It is obvious that you know the game of rugby very well. Please keep up the good work 😊
Etzebeth can feel hard done by. If PsdT isn't World Player of the year there should be a revolt!
Thanks
Cheers mate!
Awesome, Mark, great commentary and selection rationale with a number of excellent performances all round from the ABs, Wallabies, and Boks😊
Should do a team of the tournament👌🏽
I think playing against Australia, one's stats should be high/looking incredibly good. Too many all blacks in this team tbh. I'd replace em with a couple of those Argies!
As a springboks fan we were bitterly disappointed with the round 5 result against argintina. Love to hear the deserved praise for our boks but if we want to be the best team of all time, we HAVE to really be pushing for a good long win streak or the perfect season which was achieved by the great all blacks team in 2013 and onward.
Or is this an old fashioned was of thought considering teams are overall much more competitive and any team especially and argintina team can pitch up on the day.
Are we supposed to be taking the wins as they come and moving on from losses quicker or is the goal still to be winning game after game on the bounce.
Cheers for the vids 👍
I'm also a Bok supporter but I think winning each and every game is just not being realistic in the modern era. Too many excellent other teams. And, in fact, I don't want it otherwise.
Rassie is more interested in testing and building talent for the bigger picture.
@@sandorclegane3658 yea completely agree, I'm only asking that in the process of building does that mean we need to be okay with loosing multiple tests per year? You'd have to think the both the Irish loss and the argintina loss weren't necessary. We lost against the Irish in the last 2 minutes but winning that match I don't think would've taught us any less. Same with agri game, yes we were far from the mark but of mannie makes the kick or we score the try off of the maul that manie missed touch on. I don't think we would've learnt any less by winning than we would've gained by the loss.
Both preventable losses is sort of the point I'm making
@@sandorclegane3658 but is he building new talent? I see him relying on the old hands in the big games. For an exercise, take out all the 32/33 year olds in the team and see who is left for the RWC. A team of 35/36 year olds wont win it.
@@barneyboy2008 he's introduced more players this year than any other side, "Big matches" included.
Eben is pretty good, 'ey. Clarke ia top notch . Sititi deserves a spot, too and so does Malherbe.
review pls on Ireland v Black Ferns after that massive win last night 🎉
when are we going to see the IRB organise a northen vs south hemisphere series. Could you imagine a team like the above clashing with the norths best!
Scooters maul defence is so underrated
Bit harsh on Fraser. He told the ref he was under the ball and they don't go to the TMO either.
Will Jordan
No Etsebeth. What!!
I agree with Mark. Etzebeth was strangely inhibited on Saturday. I suspect he was constantly thinking about his dinner speech. 😝
Fassi played well in 1st half. In 2nd 5 handling errors and cross kick into ingoal erea for Arendse too strong.
2,3,4,5 all AB’s after the Boks dismantled the Pumas scrum??? What are you smoking???
Hello from SA why are you not covering UFC championships, SA have 4 teams taking part😊
First. Awesome content 2 cents.
got to hand it to Tony.. you don't normally see the boks dominate the backline play
I think the team of the week should have been totally Boks.
Are we going to get a Team of the Tournament?
Teams consist of 23 players. You still have 8 to pick.
Hi, please do team of the tournament
an existential crisis
This team versus British and Irish Lions….hmmmm
My comments never show up on this channel anymore. I dunno if you've blocked me but like the videos man.
I see your comment. Definitely worth blocking😀
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🏉⚡🥃🇿🇦
Only 84 tackles for Wiese? Noob.
I don`t blame Manie for not being better with conversions he`s just not good enough , to blame is Rassie not only for having someone not converting but its impact on the players confidence , even the master makes mistakes Hope you , your good Lady and the Weans have a great time
Team of the tournament. Argentina, beat all three. Must present them with the accolades they deserve.
Bro ,used to like your content ,but no Eben in your team? Shows bias bro ,I believe you need to rethink your team
Stop with all the All Blacks. They were playing for the wooden spoon for goodness sake.
No matter the result we would have come 2nd or 3rd regardless lad ☠
Bek man, Two cents is incredibly unbiased.
no all black should make the list
Sititi
@@mungoblizzard6114 no
@@GerritBarnard-v5k Yes
@@mungoblizzard6114 lol maybe
I think it depends who you play against.
How can you pick a team that play against the weakest team.
Sorry you lost it.
Sorry for the shity translation of IA: Speaking of refereeing, I don’t want to make a simplistic analysis; we can’t reduce it to good or bad refereeing, it’s more complex than that. There’s a version that wants to prove its thesis that “bad refereeing” is only perceived that way by the losers, and to demonstrate this, it takes actions that validate this while discarding or minimizing others. To do that analysis properly, we would have to see all the infractions, but that also wouldn’t give us a true measure of the refereeing. There are people that want to show that the biased perception of the loser sees biased refereeing where there isn’t any. In last Saturday’s match, the moment an nonexistent or at least questionable foul is called is important. Undoubtedly, the nonexistent penalty against Grondona when Argentina had just scored a try and was coming in positively (for that, they should call when the ball is thrown crooked to the scrum by the 9 with the book in hand) was a turning point. And then we enter the territory of “what if we had played that lineup on their field when we were on the rise?” I agree that Boke doesn’t need any favors from the referee; they defend themselves because they are beasts, and they would have won by half a point because one-on-one, they are excellent, and as a team today, they are better. Lightning doesn’t strike twice in the same place.What I mean is that the Pumas are the poor little brother who has just joined the family business of Tier 1. They didn’t get in like Italy did because their parents paid for a Master’s at MIT and financed them as a chronic student for 20 years; the Pumas went to public school, started their startup, and today it’s a success due to their own merit. The other brothers from the 6 Nations and Tri Nations could no longer pretend to be foolish, and they were brought into the company. But beware, the accountants, lawyers, and engineers of the family business all respond and know who pays their salaries and maintains their status, and they are not these poor savages with an invented black legend for playing dirty (they call it physicality and grit, which is all that Anglo-Saxon journalism highlights about the Pumas). That’s why the refereeing last Saturday is not an exception; it’s the rule for almost all referees against Argentina. We’re not saying that Ben O Trickffie has been given a briefcase to whistle against them; it’s that he, like his fellow international referees, consciously and unconsciously knows who owns the Circus. The scrutiny applied to Argentina in refereeing is not the same as for the rich older brothers. The Boke can enter rucks with a machete, from above, from the side, from below; if the player gets a second of touching the ball, it’s Pumas’ retention. For them to call that on the Pumas, five eternal seconds have to pass with the player receiving caresses from the opposing front row, etc. (it's just a small example). And this makes you play with fear, not at the limit of the infraction as rugby should be played. This subtlety-being psychological-changes the narrative.It’s curious that in this corporate analogy we don’t have any lawyers or accountants in the company (which international referee does Argentina have?) There are good referees in Argentina, but anyone who wants to reach that level will have to wear kneepads and be more papist than the pope or than Jako. Just look at how all the Tier 1 staffs have former referees in their ranks, so that we see that referees aren’t cloistered monks, but mercenaries in a way. Everyone has a price and knows who pays it. From there onward, the subtleties that tilt the playing field are evident. Once again, the rich older brothers don’t want us to grow, and they cut themselves off when they see us gaining momentum (cuts from the Rugby Championship by the Boke and AB). But I also understand that the Pumas got there not by adhering to a victimhood that is more typical of the Chileans, but by poking the eyes of these abusive brothers. Go, Pumas!!!
Bro ,used to like your content ,but no Eben in your team? Shows bias bro ,I believe you need to rethink your team
Bro ,used to like your content ,but no Eben in your team? Shows bias bro ,I believe you need to rethink your team