I always feel encouraged with these videos, because when I see something THIS far gone, it gets fixed up one small step at a time....and it makes me feel better about big messy projects I have here. My current "messy" project is a 1961Seeburg Jukebox that hadn't been working for 30 years. It's getting closer each day. I wish the Jukebox techs showed the same kindness as guitar amp techs. When I was a rookie at guitar amps, I got lots of great help. In the jukebox world it seems to be "buy my book or go away"..... I'm dyslexic dammit!, books are torture. One dude made some DVD's on the topics I need, hopefully that is going to be the ticket. I'm not dumb, I just learn differently. Your video series makes me NOT afraid to try out fixing up a pinball if one comes up in the auctions for chump change. I like to fix things, but I don't learn well from manuals and reading. I can use the diagrams, but a visual "how to test" is the best tool I could ask for!
This machine is the automotive equivalent of a "ran when parked" Craigslist ad, lol! I have no doubt you'll return this bad boy to its former glory though!
The rectifier board, solenoid board, and MPU board all have those little plastic "padlocks" on them. So there should be someone's company name on those padlocks to tell you who worked on those boards.
I'm just rebuilding a stars now too. Had to do a cabinet swap, it was sitting on a wet floor and rotted. I took a memory lane cabinet and painted and re stenciled. I bought the CPR playfield, backglass and plastics. It's looking almost like a new machine
Thanks for the shoutout my buddy Ron, I know-lol! Actually Joe is partly right. Big Daddy Kane's "Ain't No Half Steppin'" did reach number 52 on the Billboard Hot Black Singles chart. Billboard in 1988 didn't put out rap charts. Largely but not totally because they thought Rap Music was a fad like Disco music. I don't know the exact year Billboard started making rap charts. They certainly had them in the early to mid 200O's. My job at the Newspaper was to input all the various charts like Country, Pop, Rap singles and albums into the system. The charts would be listed in the Sunday edition of the Newspaper. Great video and this Stern is cleaning up and coming along nicely.
I never paid any attention to the charts back then, lately I've been listening to all of Biz Markie's stuff in case you don't know Melanated Prose nobody beats the biz. th-cam.com/video/4kktdbzlIFA/w-d-xo.html
My daughter inherited a Hollywood Heat pinball machine from my sister when she passed. It doesn't work - a few lights turn on. This will be a project for us. This video was enlightening in how you approach troubleshooting. I'm looking forward to the challenge. Thanks for sharing this video!
very cool Jeff.... Hollywood Heat was a Gottlieb game, if you watch our series that we did on Gottlieb's "Bad Girls" it shows how to fix them, your Hollywood Heat will be nearly identical :)
@@LyonsArcade Thanks for the tip. Since finding this channel, I've been literally glued to the videos. I think I had 4 hours under my belt last night. Wife is looking at me funny. I work on automated equipment in contact lens manufacturing. If a servo drive goes bad, we replace the whole drive. We will send it out for repairs and never dive in to the component level like you do. I think I can troubleshoot the more simple things. When it comes to determining if a component is bad on a board, I'll be lost. I took AC and DC circuits in college a million years ago and designed simple circuits. I remember the 555 timer. My lab partner and I thought we were cool calling it the tri-5. Anyway, I'll watch the video you suggest. Thanks.
The reason that the boards and displays of Bally and Stern Electronics are so similar is that when Sam and Gary Stern bought Chicago Coin and founded Stern Electronics they purchased several other companies as well. One of the companies they bought was URL Laboratories the people who designed the boardset for Bally. This basically gave them a back door to the design.
Thank you for the info, I didn't know URL Laboratories had done them.... do we know for sure (I've heard both ways) if they had Bally's permission ahead of time?
@@LyonsArcade That's a good question. Either Bally didn't care about what Stern did or (more likely IMHO) some sort of arrangement or understanding was reached between the two.
Great video Joe, liked how little fix here then a little fix there started the heart beat of the machine. Can not wait for the next one. I am going to jump ahead but how to clean the plastic pieces on the playfield? Huge thumbs up
The plastics I've never had any trouble cleaning up with windex or 409, I've had some in much worse shape than this too. They also make a product called "Novus" that works great on plastic things.
I know we're going really fast with the videos right now for the Holidays they'll slow down a bit at the beginning of the year and make it easier to keep up, lol. Thanks for watching Saskia, Merry Christmas!
Those blue tags look like the ones TNT put in al the machines they work on. It would be cool to check with them as it could complete the history of the machine 😀 Love the work you do Joe and videos, one day I hope to have a real Machine until then I keep playing my VM one. You got a thumbs up 👍👍👍👍 from me.
Lol I watched the next video and you explain it, I should have waited until the end. Thank you for answering the more I watch I see how much love you give to these old machines. How much time did it fully take not on video to finish this? can’t wait for the second part of the juke box to be posted 😀
That burnt device is a MOV - metal oxide varistor. Over time they can break down and burn up. That's why newer surge protectors connect a thermal fuse to them - so they don't start any fires.
The +5vdc on the driver board leaves on Pin#13 to power the MPU board & what else? then Loops back to the driver board on Pin#25 to power the solenoids driver transistors?
Think of Varistor like Resistor. Except it varies depending on Voltage/Heat. Basically you are saying it right. Versions of them can also be used as input surge current protection or a "soft start" of sorts as well as overvoltage protection :)
Those are put on the boards after they're repaired by the distributor/repair shop so that if you bring it back while it's under warranty, if it doesn't have the lock on it they know it's a different board.
@@LyonsArcade haha I’m going to watch it but I had to make a choice between Disney plus or money to get a Gottlieb Bonanza... the bonanza won the funds 😂
Seeing this machine made me realize my Bally Future Spa machine is in so much better nick than this, and I thought it was a shitbox. It runs but the flipper coils keep burning out lol
There is an end of stroke switch on the flipper coils that opens up when the coil pulls in, the pawl hits it and opens it up... if it doesn't open you'll have full power on your flippers all the time and the coils will burn up.
@@LyonsArcade Oh that's probably why, because I was wondering why it was always closed and I mentioned it to him but he just shook it off as nothing. I'll let my dad know cause we've been working on it as a little project!
If you think you can handle it, check out "Apache" by the Sugar Hill gang, considered one of the very first rap songs from way back in the 1970's, lol - th-cam.com/video/YKhi9ITkRgA/w-d-xo.html
I have a Stars machine that was stuck up in an attic for over 40 years in a school. Can you provide me any direction on how to get the parts to replce the plying field.
The gonorrhea comment reminds me of a joke. Two sergeants were like, "Let's get drunk, we're sergeants." Then they were like, "Let's go find some women, we're sergeants." They soon developed lesions somewhere and saw the doctor. "What did the doc tell you?" "We have gonorrhea." "What's that?" "Let's check the dictionary. It says it is a disease of the privates." "That's impossible. Surely we couldn't have gotten that. We're sergeants!"
Repair tags from previous repair work, to stop people with multiple units, trying to get a warranty repair on a recently repaired board. They lock on and cant easily be removed without it being obvious, they have a number stamped on them, which relates to the repair. Without them if you had another identical board fail in a different machine you could send that back and say the repair failed and try and claim another repair under the repair warranty.
this machine had been destroyed by mice the connector & loom got replaced as mice chew thru everything so the bit thats buned out was a result of short circuit caused by mice also some part of the board would be damaged
Oofs my germaphobia was going off I was thinking hello haunta virus my old friend while you were touching mouse nests in the pin. o.o Call me paranoid but I always use gloves and in that instance a mask as well. o.o
4:00 Rat nesting scared me, because they always chew up wires in cars. Turns out, that the Car Manufactures started using soy-based wire insulation in 2000. So, any pinball machine BEFORE 2000 should be fairly safe from mice & rat destruction to the wiring!? Have you seen any wiring issues from the varmints?
A rodent's front teeth grow continuously, they chew on stuff to keep their teeth from getting too long. (similar to how a cat sharpens their claws.) I've seen where squirrels chewing up wiring in the attic of a house caused all sorts of electrical problems, (thankfully not a fire) and that wiring was at least as old as this pinball machine.
At least all of the electronics are there. The "Flight 2000" he worked on later was missing the entire power supply, the lockdown bar, a few components on the playfield and one of the boards.
how ugly is this. You could also heat the house with that wood ? i would be interested how you repaint the playfield. I see a similar star trek pinball next to me with almost no colors on the board anymore...
I always feel encouraged with these videos, because when I see something THIS far gone, it gets fixed up one small step at a time....and it makes me feel better about big messy projects I have here. My current "messy" project is a 1961Seeburg Jukebox that hadn't been working for 30 years. It's getting closer each day. I wish the Jukebox techs showed the same kindness as guitar amp techs. When I was a rookie at guitar amps, I got lots of great help. In the jukebox world it seems to be "buy my book or go away"..... I'm dyslexic dammit!, books are torture. One dude made some DVD's on the topics I need, hopefully that is going to be the ticket. I'm not dumb, I just learn differently. Your video series makes me NOT afraid to try out fixing up a pinball if one comes up in the auctions for chump change. I like to fix things, but I don't learn well from manuals and reading. I can use the diagrams, but a visual "how to test" is the best tool I could ask for!
You never fail at making me laugh Ronnie "I think that's drywall" haha
LOL
Customer: It's dead Joe!!
Joe: Challenge accepted.
This machine is the automotive equivalent of a "ran when parked" Craigslist ad, lol! I have no doubt you'll return this bad boy to its former glory though!
Yeah people tell us all the time "It used to work" haha EVERYTHING USED TO WORK
Bless you Ron for taking on another late 70s classic. The pinball Gods are smiling.
We try to fix most of the ones we run across :)
Every pinball machine deserves a chance! Glad it landed in your hands to fix it, Ron!
We're gonna get it :)
Pins and classic cars are never to far gone.. you need skills and deep pockets !
The rectifier board, solenoid board, and MPU board all have those little plastic "padlocks" on them. So there should be someone's company name on those padlocks to tell you who worked on those boards.
I'm just rebuilding a stars now too. Had to do a cabinet swap, it was sitting on a wet floor and rotted. I took a memory lane cabinet and painted and re stenciled.
I bought the CPR playfield, backglass and plastics. It's looking almost like a new machine
Good luck with it, love those old Sterns!
1:25 that's the cocaine from over the years
I think I got a little bit of it in my mouth, that would explain why I've been running around with my shirt off for the last 3 days...
Thanks for the shoutout my buddy Ron, I know-lol! Actually Joe is partly right. Big Daddy Kane's "Ain't No Half Steppin'" did reach number 52 on the Billboard Hot Black Singles chart. Billboard in 1988 didn't put out rap charts. Largely but not totally because they thought Rap Music was a fad like Disco music. I don't know the exact year Billboard started making rap charts. They certainly had them in the early to mid 200O's. My job at the Newspaper was to input all the various charts like Country, Pop, Rap singles and albums into the system. The charts would be listed in the Sunday edition of the Newspaper. Great video and this Stern is cleaning up and coming along nicely.
I never paid any attention to the charts back then, lately I've been listening to all of Biz Markie's stuff in case you don't know Melanated Prose nobody beats the biz. th-cam.com/video/4kktdbzlIFA/w-d-xo.html
@@LyonsArcade The era of Big Daddy Kane, Special ED, Eric B. and Rakim, Biz Markie, Public Enemy etc. was the Golden Age of rap/hip hop.
My favorite kind of projects! They are the most satisfying to restore.
Me too! When you're done you can stand back and go "Yup, fixed that one."
08:54 I'm watching them already!!! 🤣👍
Awesome to see it coming back to life. A lot in this state would have been scrapped, it's great to see this being saved.
We like to save the ones that are rough!
My daughter inherited a Hollywood Heat pinball machine from my sister when she passed. It doesn't work - a few lights turn on. This will be a project for us. This video was enlightening in how you approach troubleshooting. I'm looking forward to the challenge. Thanks for sharing this video!
very cool Jeff.... Hollywood Heat was a Gottlieb game, if you watch our series that we did on Gottlieb's "Bad Girls" it shows how to fix them, your Hollywood Heat will be nearly identical :)
@@LyonsArcade Thanks for the tip. Since finding this channel, I've been literally glued to the videos. I think I had 4 hours under my belt last night. Wife is looking at me funny. I work on automated equipment in contact lens manufacturing. If a servo drive goes bad, we replace the whole drive. We will send it out for repairs and never dive in to the component level like you do. I think I can troubleshoot the more simple things. When it comes to determining if a component is bad on a board, I'll be lost. I took AC and DC circuits in college a million years ago and designed simple circuits. I remember the 555 timer. My lab partner and I thought we were cool calling it the tri-5. Anyway, I'll watch the video you suggest. Thanks.
Got to see this before in person and I think the dirt actually protected the play field. This should turn out very nice.
I think so too Mike! That dirt gets on there and keeps the paint from fading or chipping off!
The reason that the boards and displays of Bally and Stern Electronics are so similar is that when Sam and Gary Stern bought Chicago Coin and founded Stern Electronics they purchased several other companies as well. One of the companies they bought was URL Laboratories the people who designed the boardset for Bally. This basically gave them a back door to the design.
Thank you for the info, I didn't know URL Laboratories had done them.... do we know for sure (I've heard both ways) if they had Bally's permission ahead of time?
@@LyonsArcade That's a good question. Either Bally didn't care about what Stern did or (more likely IMHO) some sort of arrangement or understanding was reached between the two.
Starting with some crap! Literally starting with crap. LOL
Oh snap! Another classic pinball video series. Wow, its just like Christmas!!...wait, it is!
Stern Stars... interesting... looks like a modified version of Meteor or vice-versa. Keep it up there with all the repair videos and hints!
the person who thumbed this down was the rat who lived in the backbox.
it's all the people telling me "Oooh, you're gonna get sick" people have forgotten how to have a good time.
Great video Joe, liked how little fix here then a little fix there started the heart beat of the machine. Can not wait for the next one. I am going to jump ahead but how to clean the plastic pieces on the playfield? Huge thumbs up
The plastics I've never had any trouble cleaning up with windex or 409, I've had some in much worse shape than this too. They also make a product called "Novus" that works great on plastic things.
@@LyonsArcade Thanks Joe keep the video's
Man, that Fluke 23 has some kind of patina on it. I bet you had it many years and it's earned you mucho dinero. Show it some love and give it a bath.
It's alive....micro farad🎶... thanks Ron for another fun & entertaining pinball recovery.
Hello. I Enjoy your content. I Look forward to seeing more of the out come with this machine. Best Regards Sir... Good luck with the new store
Thanks Mark, we appreciate you hanging out with us and checking out the videos!
:) still playing catch up,but very happy to see this beauty ! thanks guys !! x
I know we're going really fast with the videos right now for the Holidays they'll slow down a bit at the beginning of the year and make it easier to keep up, lol. Thanks for watching Saskia, Merry Christmas!
@@LyonsArcade and a merry christmas to you guys too !! Thank you for all your videos this year !! wouldnt get by without you guys !! x :)
That varistor, lol. Looks like it got struck by lightning.
Probably did! Or the Varistor just failed or something, I don't know how bad those are about self destructing :)
Let the resurrection begin! Here's to you! Good luck! You can do it!
Those blue tags look like the ones TNT put in al the machines they work on. It would be cool to check with them as it could complete the history of the machine 😀 Love the work you do Joe and videos, one day I hope to have a real Machine until then I keep playing my VM one. You got a thumbs up 👍👍👍👍 from me.
The ones on this one were from a different place, a local distributor named Brady Distributing, but unfortunately they're out of business now!
Lol I watched the next video and you explain it, I should have waited until the end. Thank you for answering the more I watch I see how much love you give to these old machines. How much time did it fully take not on video to finish this? can’t wait for the second part of the juke box to be posted 😀
looks like a great game I like the layout‼️®™️
It has a reputation for being a good game, people love it!
That burnt device is a MOV - metal oxide varistor. Over time they can break down and burn up. That's why newer surge protectors connect a thermal fuse to them - so they don't start any fires.
The +5vdc on the driver board leaves on Pin#13 to power the MPU board & what else? then Loops back to the driver board on Pin#25 to power the solenoids driver transistors?
I don't know, but that looks like it has a hell of a lot of potential❗️ just by the very first look of it, especially in your hands‼️®™️
I liked it, we were able to bring it back!
Think of Varistor like Resistor. Except it varies depending on Voltage/Heat. Basically you are saying it right.
Versions of them can also be used as input surge current protection or a "soft start" of sorts as well as overvoltage protection :)
That makes sense, thanks Brendan! We appreciate the info :)
you may have been exposed to the Bubonic Plague LOL
I would secure the wire on the back of the solenoid driver board with hot glue.
What is that yellow plastic thing that looks like a padlock on the solenoid board? Thanks Ron.
Those are put on the boards after they're repaired by the distributor/repair shop so that if you bring it back while it's under warranty, if it doesn't have the lock on it they know it's a different board.
Varistors can cool-off and work again.
Everybody else is all excited about the Star Wars show, meanwhile I cant wait to what Ron has to fix, clean, or paint next.
To be fair the Star Wars show is pretty cool too, I've been watching it. It's so good you can't even talk about it without spoiling something...
@@LyonsArcade haha I’m going to watch it but I had to make a choice between Disney plus or money to get a Gottlieb Bonanza... the bonanza won the funds 😂
Seeing this machine made me realize my Bally Future Spa machine is in so much better nick than this, and I thought it was a shitbox. It runs but the flipper coils keep burning out lol
There is an end of stroke switch on the flipper coils that opens up when the coil pulls in, the pawl hits it and opens it up... if it doesn't open you'll have full power on your flippers all the time and the coils will burn up.
@@LyonsArcade Oh that's probably why, because I was wondering why it was always closed and I mentioned it to him but he just shook it off as nothing. I'll let my dad know cause we've been working on it as a little project!
Who is playing Sonic in the background when I am trying to get edumicated on classic rap?
Thanks for introducing me to Lakeside's It's All The Way Live, I didn't know it, but I am diggin' it :D
If you think you can handle it, check out "Apache" by the Sugar Hill gang, considered one of the very first rap songs from way back in the 1970's, lol - th-cam.com/video/YKhi9ITkRgA/w-d-xo.html
@@LyonsArcade Believe it or not, but I have this on 7" vinyl record :D They sure didn't leave much of the original intact :D
Gonorrhea isn't your concern with mouse nests. I'd be more concerned with Hanta Virus! Lol
Dose the rectifier get hot?
Would that be the reason it's always on a heat sink?
Yup they get a little toasty!
I know people can catch chlamydia from koala bears.
I mean i love Koalas but I think that's probably illegal!
I have a Stars machine that was stuck up in an attic for over 40 years in a school. Can you provide me any direction on how to get the parts to replce the plying field.
Yes you can buy many of the parts on www.MarcoSpec.com depending on what you need...
I love that bird poop touch must of been in a Orange Storage facility.
what are those plastic lock looking things?
Looking forward to this turnaround.
We'll be working on it all this week!
Love that game.
Touching mouse droppings or breathing in the dust particles can cause Hanta Virus
Very lethal
You definitely shouldn't touch this one then, leave this one to me! You might just want to sit and watch from your couch.
@@LyonsArcade When I have to clean up mega-messes, I use a central vacuum, so all dust that gets past the bag goes OUTSIDE.
ah yeah
. I'm with this. I'm just gonna sit here laid back to this nice mellow video, you know? (aint no half stepping)
microfarad (lol) . So many videos recently. Did we finish the jukebox? Did we finish the 8 ball. Maybe I need to catch up.
The gonorrhea comment reminds me of a joke.
Two sergeants were like, "Let's get drunk, we're sergeants." Then they were like, "Let's go find some women, we're sergeants." They soon developed lesions somewhere and saw the doctor.
"What did the doc tell you?"
"We have gonorrhea."
"What's that?"
"Let's check the dictionary. It says it is a disease of the privates."
"That's impossible. Surely we couldn't have gotten that. We're sergeants!"
holy shit i had one of these in the early 80s
This might be the one man, did you put drywall in the glass channel :)
Hey Ronnie what's that blue plastic padlock thing on the board at 17:40?
what are the plastic locks about on the circuit boards?
Repair tags from previous repair work, to stop people with multiple units, trying to get a warranty repair on a recently repaired board. They lock on and cant easily be removed without it being obvious, they have a number stamped on them, which relates to the repair. Without them if you had another identical board fail in a different machine you could send that back and say the repair failed and try and claim another repair under the repair warranty.
im goinna check out my brother donnies videos, thanks for the heads up 👍👍👍
Thanks Roger, we'll see you over there :)
Hi Ron, thanks for another great video. Where do you get the 15000uf cap? Thanks.
Transformer has little bit higher than rated voltage output without load, it's normal._
Thanks for watching Dj!
this machine had been destroyed by mice the connector & loom got replaced as mice chew thru everything so the bit thats buned out was a result of short circuit caused by mice also some part of the board would be damaged
Gonna be a good series Ron, Ya haven't got a gorgon hiding in the back to do?
No we don't have one of those at the moment!
Pity, that's another to take me back.
Only during a nightmare can you catch those kinds of communicable diseases
Oofs my germaphobia was going off I was thinking hello haunta virus my old friend while you were touching mouse nests in the pin. o.o
Call me paranoid but I always use gloves and in that instance a mask as well. o.o
You know a Phobia is defined as "Irrational Fear" :) I am not going to conduct myself according to your irrational fears :)
Oh dear god.....
Time line wise.. in-between Galaxy and Meteor?
Nope before both of them!
The Black Death! Yea man 🤪
4:00 Rat nesting scared me, because they always chew up wires in cars. Turns out, that the Car Manufactures started using soy-based wire insulation in 2000. So, any pinball machine BEFORE 2000 should be fairly safe from mice & rat destruction to the wiring!? Have you seen any wiring issues from the varmints?
A rodent's front teeth grow continuously, they chew on stuff to keep their teeth from getting too long. (similar to how a cat sharpens their claws.) I've seen where squirrels chewing up wiring in the attic of a house caused all sorts of electrical problems, (thankfully not a fire) and that wiring was at least as old as this pinball machine.
I see you have a little bird-A-poopie on your playfield.
Original “ain’t no half steppin” was by Heatwave
th-cam.com/video/pKjkwpgKMd8/w-d-xo.html
My man!
Lol should of read the Title before i asked a now redundant question.
Stern Stars Detroit Edition
It could have been worse, at least the paintwork on the side and the backglass are OK.
At least all of the electronics are there. The "Flight 2000" he worked on later was missing the entire power supply, the lockdown bar, a few components on the playfield and one of the boards.
Gofundme for a HEPA filter for Ron.
Nothing you can’t fix
🤦
how ugly is this. You could also heat the house with that wood ? i would be interested how you repaint the playfield. I see a similar star trek pinball next to me with almost no colors on the board anymore...
Pronounced Vair ist tur
Too funny. Ewww. Ewwww ewwwww
Isn't it Lymes disease you can get from rodent pee? Hope you wore gloves!
I didn't wear gloves, I'd rather just wash my hands....
I think that's Weil's disease .
@@jasonudall8614 You're right, leptospirosis, - either way, good to take care! (Lymes disease is spread by ticks)