This is actually brilliant, because you're going to need those drive hooks to hang all of the rest of your tools on. The first thing you need is a place to store and organize your tools, which means the drive hooks are the logically first thing to make.
Love that youre using a Vevor anvil, ahowing that beginner blacksmiths dont need an expensive anvil. Love the hook idea. Any tips on keeping the bend of the hook on the horn from going in different angles while bending?? My hooks always start bending more like its starting a spiral bend.
Don't put your piece perpendicular to the anvil, but perpendicular to the "edge" of the horn. Hard to explain over text, but if you look at your anvil from the top, you must be perpendicular to the far side of the horn.
All we did for the first while was create nails. Wasn't really allowed to do anything else till I could do a whole nail in a single heat. I haven't touched my anvil in years now though. I should get a forge again dangit... -_-
I misinterpreted the question as what he needs to make stuff. If that were the case, I'm no smith but a hammer, an anvil, a torch or kiln, some tongs, and a good bicep
Whenever I started I made a ton of those hooks and leaves and after about 4 to 5 years I’m making pretty refined knives they’re not like 300$ knife quality but still just takes practice
Damn, I hate watching some new cool activity/craft/trade and then wanting to do it as if there's anything practical for a scrawny poor dude like me in trying to get into something like that.
cold chissel centerpunch round drift square drift drivehook leaf hook miners candlestick nails tomahawk drift railroad spike tomahawk or similar, mine are 20mm low alloy square spring steel with head 30mm round 25mm high "puck" upset (DM&#£@ hard wor,kwhy?) RR spikes are anything 1040 up, they just have minimum toughness and tensile strength requirement, so I have seen 1040, 1075, 5160 and several other used by makers, 5160 equivalent is what I have but heat treat with unknown steel is dicy.
Tongs. You need tongs. Oh.. I see, it's things that are not tools. Oh. Start simple. Nails, knives, spoons, forks, ... which are tools. right.. umm. Drive hooks. yeah. another tool. Apprentices learn about tools, Journeymen use tools and masters make tools.
No no no you're supposed to make something useless like those stupid leaves because blacksmithing isn't supposed to be a skill it's supposed to be useless. (Just make shit)
Thank you for this video and to the person who asked the question. I'm autistic and was kind of overwhelmed by all the choices and where to start. This gives me just the initial foothold i needed to get my focus on perfecting something before i start selecting projects based on what i want to try next.
Thank you, sir! You were the first comment I saw, that actually explained the obvious. To which I truly was, completely, oblivious to, because I have never seen one before.
Horseshoers are taught to make hoof picks, teaches the same things, but rounder and without the twist... I literally just lost my favorite one, time to make another 😢
So it's not square and you don't twist it... which means it doesn't teach the same skills at all considering that drawing out a square and putting a twist are two of the main skills you learn from the hooks
@@danemoore2302 I never said they did... I was very clearly addressing the fact that their comment says "teaches the same things" when it absolutely doesn't
Oh Lordy, this is what the guy who taught me to smith did to me for the first YEAR. I was just learning as a hobby, as a teen. I made THOUSANDS of these. Except the ones i made, had a hole punched in them to be mounted to walls as coat hooks.
Funny how the small simple things actually require a lot of techniques, knowledge and experience to make it look easy. But thats what "doing" does. Gives the experience and knowledge.
I was going to say for 5 years I made hooks a lot of hooks I can make hooks to this day in my sleep what kind do you want send me a picture lol 28 years later I can still make hooks
I will do a basic tool list later but his is a good start. The main thing is to be around other blacksmiths, you will get more info and tips in a afternoon than a year of watching videos.
Easy answer. You make your tongs and your hammer first. Everything else is passion projects and custom orders. I'm an empty vessel with a if few tools. Are there any apprenticeship places near Chatty, Tennessee?
I don't know of any apprenticeship programs, but you should look at the Choo choo forge. It's the local A.A.C.B. club. They have classes and resources, facebook.com/choo.forge/
This is actually brilliant, because you're going to need those drive hooks to hang all of the rest of your tools on. The first thing you need is a place to store and organize your tools, which means the drive hooks are the logically first thing to make.
Ever hear of Pinch Dogs ?
Those would be nice and sellable .
Especially with those nice twists .
A battle axe. (Ok you don't need it but you want it)
Love that youre using a Vevor anvil, ahowing that beginner blacksmiths dont need an expensive anvil.
Love the hook idea. Any tips on keeping the bend of the hook on the horn from going in different angles while bending?? My hooks always start bending more like its starting a spiral bend.
Don't put your piece perpendicular to the anvil, but perpendicular to the "edge" of the horn.
Hard to explain over text, but if you look at your anvil from the top, you must be perpendicular to the far side of the horn.
@@Tvngsten that actually made perfect sense! Thank you for that explanation.
I didn't realise that my random experimentation in the shop was learning the fundamentals! Your technique is beautiful, btw
I subbed to you SPECIFICALLY because you have so many kind comments. I'd like to see what all the hype is about!
I like it. Good advice
Buddy amazing work
Thanks a ton
That's a great piece of advice 👍
All we did for the first while was create nails. Wasn't really allowed to do anything else till I could do a whole nail in a single heat.
I haven't touched my anvil in years now though. I should get a forge again dangit... -_-
I misinterpreted the question as what he needs to make stuff.
If that were the case, I'm no smith but a hammer, an anvil, a torch or kiln, some tongs, and a good bicep
It's a great item to practice with, it doesn't require a lot of stock material, or anything prohibitevely expensive.
Moment the video came on I thought ten batches of ten hooks.
Whenever I started I made a ton of those hooks and leaves and after about 4 to 5 years I’m making pretty refined knives they’re not like 300$ knife quality but still just takes practice
Damn, I hate watching some new cool activity/craft/trade and then wanting to do it as if there's anything practical for a scrawny poor dude like me in trying to get into something like that.
Sorry new to this. But what is a drive hook?
Never mind I found it. Lol
Agreed
cold chissel
centerpunch
round drift
square drift
drivehook
leaf hook
miners candlestick
nails
tomahawk drift
railroad spike tomahawk or similar, mine are 20mm low alloy square spring steel with head 30mm round 25mm high "puck" upset (DM&#£@ hard wor,kwhy?) RR spikes are anything 1040 up, they just have minimum toughness and tensile strength requirement, so I have seen 1040, 1075, 5160 and several other used by makers, 5160 equivalent is what I have but heat treat with unknown steel is dicy.
Nice
Personally cause steel is hard to find where i live
I went straight to knifes
I am not a master by no means
But i acn make some decent projects
Where are you at?
Now what if I mastered that my first 2 times I tried?
Go ahead and make a couple dozen more.
@@VooDooTennessee they'll be good to hang all the specialty tools and things you will need to make making more complex items easier
I am going to make a sword
Tongs. You need tongs. Oh.. I see, it's things that are not tools. Oh. Start simple. Nails, knives, spoons, forks, ... which are tools. right.. umm. Drive hooks. yeah. another tool. Apprentices learn about tools, Journeymen use tools and masters make tools.
…and learn to flip the image at editing.😉
No no no you're supposed to make something useless like those stupid leaves because blacksmithing isn't supposed to be a skill it's supposed to be useless.
(Just make shit)
That "little item" is truly remarkable. Thousands of years of civilization wrapped up in one masterfrafted trinket.
Thank you for this video and to the person who asked the question. I'm autistic and was kind of overwhelmed by all the choices and where to start. This gives me just the initial foothold i needed to get my focus on perfecting something before i start selecting projects based on what i want to try next.
Good advice! My first project was a incredibly complicated dagger first attempt went into the scrap but the second became ridiculously good
You drive the point into the wall and hang stuff on the hook. Looks better than a bent framing nail.
Thank you, sir! You were the first comment I saw, that actually explained the obvious. To which I truly was, completely, oblivious to, because I have never seen one before.
Horseshoers are taught to make hoof picks, teaches the same things, but rounder and without the twist... I literally just lost my favorite one, time to make another 😢
Came to say this too. I'm 16 and just learning to trim and shoe
So it's not square and you don't twist it... which means it doesn't teach the same skills at all considering that drawing out a square and putting a twist are two of the main skills you learn from the hooks
@@TheRussell747 horse shoes don't need to be square
@@TheRussell747 Nor do horshoes have twist. You see, we practice what at what we actually do 😅
@@danemoore2302 I never said they did... I was very clearly addressing the fact that their comment says "teaches the same things" when it absolutely doesn't
This is an awesome short. Not some snarky response, just a genuine recommendation with educational value for beginners in the subject.
Oh Lordy, this is what the guy who taught me to smith did to me for the first YEAR. I was just learning as a hobby, as a teen. I made THOUSANDS of these. Except the ones i made, had a hole punched in them to be mounted to walls as coat hooks.
You have quickly become one of my favorite Smiths
I literally chance to cross this channel whilst in the bath tonight - and I’ve been watching it for about two hours!!
reminds me of a Miner's spike, too, which is an old medieval candle holder for guards and watchmen.
might be the 'level 2' for this project.
First project I was ever assigned whole lot of useful skills into a simple incredibly useful item
Funny how the small simple things actually require a lot of techniques, knowledge and experience to make it look easy. But thats what "doing" does. Gives the experience and knowledge.
Preciate ya
You're welcome!
I was going to say for 5 years I made hooks a lot of hooks I can make hooks to this day in my sleep what kind do you want send me a picture lol 28 years later I can still make hooks
What was the use of the item he mentioned? I listened to him a few time but i couldnt understand what he said
It's a drive hook, this video might help clear it up studio.th-cam.com/users/videokZjNfCHfRMg/edit
Instructions unclear made a shiv with a meat hook
This was the very very very very very very first thing I've ever made and I still do them just to keep up the practice
I've heard a leaf keychain is good too, teaches you to roll, flatten and shape
At first I thought this was the guy who makes all the crazy flavored moonshines😂
The blacksmiths plumbus really
thanks for the idea, im just getting started and was just going to try the steriotypical railspike knife but smaller is probably better for now
Huh, I will likely never put my hands to an anvil but I love watching the process.
Next question what is drive hook?
Tongs will break your brain
I want to make a period accurate set of cermonial (but functional) plate and mail armor how many of thhese do I need to Make before I do that
That's some guru-level shit right there!😎
Can't I skip this and just start making katannas first ? 😂😅😂
Hit turn technique will be ur best friend in this
And those hooks will be needed to hang all the tools yet to be made.
You can't fool me, all i need to do is make iron daggers for 6 hours and I'll be a master blacksmith
How about basic tools to start out with as well?
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I will do a basic tool list later but his is a good start. The main thing is to be around other blacksmiths, you will get more info and tips in a afternoon than a year of watching videos.
@@VooDooTennessee thx!
Bout $1000 on amazon
Didden't i see you as a general in red alert 2 pc game?
What are those for?
Thanks bro !!
Are you also a farrier?
So well said
I love this
Okay but what is that thing and what is it for
Love it! Thanks
That was really cool for not answering the question. They didn't ask what to make to get good at it, they asked what they needed to get started
Easy answer.
You make your tongs and your hammer first. Everything else is passion projects and custom orders.
I'm an empty vessel with a if few tools. Are there any apprenticeship places near Chatty, Tennessee?
I don't know of any apprenticeship programs, but you should look at the Choo choo forge. It's the local A.A.C.B. club. They have classes and resources, facebook.com/choo.forge/
We traded drive hooks 🪝.