if a person is unable to resist the urge to break the laws in a foreign country, they may want to seriously consider just staying home. if they go there any way, any subsequent punishments received are 100% their own fault.
i wish we had this same policy in the US. Hard caning/flogging for vandals. Impotent Us laws is why my car got keyscratched again. These low life scum have no regard for others. I wish the worst on vandals…
I was in Singapore American School at the time this happened. I knew Michael Fay, Rudy, Damian, and Stephen-- who were all arrested over this incident. My recollections could be wrong after all of these years, but from what I remembered, Michael's father knew Bill Clinton and he thought that the connection would mean the courts would go easier on Michael. I vaguely recall hearing that his lawyer (after talking to the lawyers of the other boys) encouraged him to take the fall for all of them, believing he would only get a fine, but that the government wanted to make an example of him. I remember Stephen being very stressed out while out on bail and saw him looking at brochures for schools in other countries when we were supposed to be working on a group project together. Can't say I really blame him. Damian's lawyer was smarter. He saw the red flags and encouraged him to leave the country. He had two passports-- German and Australian. He only surrendered one of them so he was able to use the other to leave. Don't know if its true, but I heard that when the officials found out he was gone, they allegedly detained his younger sister. Rudy was Malaysian and he was saying that they hit him with a large phonebook and tried to beat a confession out of him while he was in custody. He was Malaysian so he felt they were treating him worse than the white boys. I remember that Damian was a bit of a prankster-- he once ziptied my backpack to my desk, but he was generally a nice kid. Stephen was a nice kid and seemed quiet. Don't remember too much about Rudy-- he didn't seem like a troublemaker. Michael was quiet in classes when his friends weren't in them, but in classes he shared with friends, he was a brat. There were sort of balconies on the upper floors for the classrooms and he tried to push an Italian student over the railing once. He was disruptive and loud in Mr's Hung's class and repeatedly ignored her requests for him to be quiet. When she asked him to leave since he wouldn't be quiet he kicked a support column, kicked a chair, shouted "I'm the best thing you have in this class" stomped out and slammed the door. Don't know if it's true, but his friends said he got $100/week allowance and spent $80 of it on booze. I know he and some of the other kids liked to go to clubs and drink. I remember at the time I thought he deserved to be caned, but now I don't think so. He shouldn't have been dumb enough to commit the crimes, but apparently he wasn't actually guilty of everything he admitted to and had bad legal advice. Plus I don't agree with corporal punishment. Cars in Singapore are extremely expensive. 300% tax on the purchase price and they have to be kept new. I don't think they allow cars older than 5 years. Don't know if its true, but I heard one of the cars vandalized belonged to a judge's wife. And I also think that the anti-vandalism law was originally intended to deter communists who were using graffiti and vandalism to encourage insurrection against the government. I vaguely recall being told that when golfing, some of the people would joke that the Americans had 2 strokes deducted in their games because of it. Note, I did not play golf, nor did anyone in my family, but my father worked with the US Embassy and told me about some of the jokes he'd heard from people there. Oh hey, 14min and 12 sec in and I see Stephen (although the video is blurry). I actually met George Bush Sr at an embassy event when all this mess was going on. He asked me what school I went to and when I told him, he asked me about Michael Fay. I do love that this video ended on "Fuck Around and Find Out".
I totally agree with everything you wrote... I live here in a little farming town in Utah.. I call it my comfort zone.. If I did go to another country ,, I certainly would obey all the rules Although some of them seem outlandish.. Like no gum chewing... What are they afraid of ? Someone throwing a piece of chewing gum on the ground??
@@teresewecker They outlawed gum because it literally gummed up the doors for the MRT (Mass Rapid Transit) system and caused delays. It was causing all sorts of problems and they discussed it and said that banning gum entirely was the way to go so it wouldn't happen. They take littering very seriously there too. People caught littering not only have to pay fines, but have to do community service picking up trash while wearing vests that identify them as litterers so shame them. At least, that's what they did back when I lived there.
@@teresewecker I thought I had replied to this but don't see my reply. The chewing gum was banned because it literally gummed up the doors for the MRT (Mass Rapid Transit) system. Shortly after it went operational, there were delays because gum was getting stuck in the doors and causing them to not close or open. They held an emergency legislative session and decided the solution would be to ban gum. Once it was outlawed, the problem with the doors stopped and they didn't have any accidents with the MRT for about 10yrs. The 1st one I recall happening was when someone operating a wrecking ball at a construction site effed up accidentally swung the ball into the tracks. No idea on the accident statistics since then though. I haven't been back to Singapore in decades.
I remember when this happened. I also remember that most polls taken in the United States agreed that the boy should caned. He went into a foreign country and broke laws therefore he should be held accountable for breaking those laws. I also remember his father doing an interview stating that his son was shocked that most Americans agreed with the sentence
i wish we had this same policy in the US. Hard caning/flogging for vandals. Impotent Us laws is why my car got keyscratched again. These low life scum have no regard for others. I wish the worst on vandals…
In the US, there were many cases where murderers could get away with their crimes. The most they will give is life in prison. Well remember, the world is not your playground. This is what makes Singapore safe.
@@haileeraestout5567 no it won't the crime rate would drop significantly because people would learn there actions have consequences as the saying goes "F*** around and find out "
@@hadbetterdays8118how is it any different from prison rapes, prison murders, prisoners getting castrated etc etc??!!! How is it worse than that? You people are so goddamn stupid. You think prisoners suffer no consequences? Believe me they suffer worse than lashings. And you wholeheartedly believe this would change anything? You're so simple.
@@hadbetterdays8118& have prisons like North Korea. No commissary & one letter a month. No phone calls. Sit Indian style for 22 hrs a day. Plus caning. I bet crime would slow tf down.
I wouldn't necessarily say that he "got his life together". He was 19 and did something stupid. Your comment implies he was a God Damned murderer or something.
@@lf2334 lol shut up. If you did more research into his crime you would know why he got that punishment. The fact that he felt confident enough to pull this shit in another country disregarding their law says everything about his character. He should've received harsher punishment but white privilege got him off. As always, Americans acting like the world revolves around them.
@@lf2334 He was an alcoholic from what I recall. He went out drinking a LOT on weekends. He was also super bratty in one of the classes we had together. He was actually quiet and well-behaved when his friends weren't in class, but in classes with his friends he was a major disruptive jerk. I think he got on drugs after the arrest and there were allegations of domestic violence. But after that it sounds like he got back on track.
I hope he's doing well. He seemed like a troubled kid. Spoiled and bratty in school but I think he wasn't getting attention at home or something.I don't think this incident got him to behave any better.
Tis news of Singapore strict laws has etched into everyone's memories till today, look at even the social media...the discussion about a 1993 incident is still ongoing...so the Sg laws really works....if any criminals wanna commit crimes in Sg, they will definitely tink twice b4 they commit...hence the low crime rate 😊
surprised he didn't mention the goofy ahh singaporean parody of "We didn't start the fire" called "We live in Singapura" that basically summarised Singaporean history up until 2006 there was this one line in the song 'Michael Fay pain in the butt' referencing Fay's caning
If you ask me, Michael Faye got it pretty easy compared to how I would’ve responded. If I found out, he spray-painted my car. It could’ve been much worse for him. He got it pretty easy with just a cane
"Eye 4 an Eye!" Corporal Punishment as a minimum. Kid Gloves on Perps Does Not Work. It is a sad affair these days in America. Embarrassing, to be honest.
We have a lawlessness and incarceration problem. Corporal punishment in lieu of longer prison sentences helps the perpetrators (it’s corrective and they can return to society sooner) and society. Recidivism rates would drop and the law will be respected. Prisons are unfortunately mostly just colleges for criminals where you receive an associate degree in criminality.
The caning was also referenced by an Easter egg in the 1997 video game Shadow Warrior in which a man is seen being caned on fictional news channel SNN. The first I heard of the incident was by the Weird Al song. I don't remember if the incident was reported in the news where I'm from - the UK - also I was only 10. Probably thought it was funny.
“When a state of increasing disorder and defiance of authority cannot be checked by the rules then existing, new and sometimes drastic rules have to be forged to maintain order: so that the law can continue to govern human relations. The alternative is to surrender order to chaos and anarchy.”- Lee Kuan Yew
@@omalone1169 Lee Kuan Yew (born September 16, 1923, Singapore-died March 23, 2015, Singapore) was a politician and lawyer who was prime minister of Singapore from 1959 to 1990. Widely regarded as the founding father of modern Singapore, Lee transformed the city-state from a small, resource-deficient British colony with high rates of illiteracy into the most prosperous country in Southeast Asia. Under his leadership, Singapore developed a robust economy with one of the highest GDP per capita figures in Asia.
@@Solo-Road ...And also one of the cleanest, safest countries on earth, and he was going to be confounded if he let some snotty American punk who couldn't even behave himself in his own country ruin it.
@@Solo-Road ....And after everything the Singaporeans had been through during the previous 50 years, including Japanese occupation during WWII, you could be pretty sure he wasn't about to let some snotty American punk who couldn't behave himself in his own country ruin his life's work.
America doesn't and look at crime here. It was obvious where the issue lied with this case and americas sensibilities...... The protected class can get punished for wrongdoings even if they get off free in the USA.
I. Had 3 strokes of the cane across my ass. In 1973 which left. Slash marks and. Cuts and bruising. I. Cou. The teacher use 2.boast what an expert he was ld nt sit down 4 a week.
i wish we had this same policy in the US. Hard caning/flogging for vandals. Impotent Us laws is why my car got keyscratched again. These low life scum have no regard for others. I wish the worst on vandals…
Well spoken! *subscribes and likes* Also I'm totally with this seeing as the ADULTS were being stupid and criminal. They aren't children who dont understand but most likely come from money that leads them to think that it's fine as long as they pay its fine...so yeah the canning should send a pretty good message.
Don’t want to be punished, don’t commit the crime, their country, their punishment, don’t break their laws
if a person is unable to resist the urge to break the laws in a foreign country, they may want to seriously consider just staying home. if they go there any way, any subsequent punishments received are 100% their own fault.
i wish we had this same policy in the US. Hard caning/flogging for vandals. Impotent Us laws is why my car got keyscratched again. These low life scum have no regard for others. I wish the worst on vandals…
Just to note that schools had corporal punishment until the 1960s. This idea that physical punishment is alien to the US culture is ludicrous.
Schools in Louisiana and Texas still have corporal punishment and it can be administered on adult students against their wills.
they have paddling at my son's school in Texas
I took 3 swats over 3 days of ISS ALL DAY EVERYDAY
What about the CP on the US judiciary?
the 80's plus in Texas Etc. Remember?!
I was in Singapore American School at the time this happened. I knew Michael Fay, Rudy, Damian, and Stephen-- who were all arrested over this incident. My recollections could be wrong after all of these years, but from what I remembered, Michael's father knew Bill Clinton and he thought that the connection would mean the courts would go easier on Michael. I vaguely recall hearing that his lawyer (after talking to the lawyers of the other boys) encouraged him to take the fall for all of them, believing he would only get a fine, but that the government wanted to make an example of him. I remember Stephen being very stressed out while out on bail and saw him looking at brochures for schools in other countries when we were supposed to be working on a group project together. Can't say I really blame him. Damian's lawyer was smarter. He saw the red flags and encouraged him to leave the country. He had two passports-- German and Australian. He only surrendered one of them so he was able to use the other to leave. Don't know if its true, but I heard that when the officials found out he was gone, they allegedly detained his younger sister. Rudy was Malaysian and he was saying that they hit him with a large phonebook and tried to beat a confession out of him while he was in custody. He was Malaysian so he felt they were treating him worse than the white boys.
I remember that Damian was a bit of a prankster-- he once ziptied my backpack to my desk, but he was generally a nice kid. Stephen was a nice kid and seemed quiet. Don't remember too much about Rudy-- he didn't seem like a troublemaker. Michael was quiet in classes when his friends weren't in them, but in classes he shared with friends, he was a brat. There were sort of balconies on the upper floors for the classrooms and he tried to push an Italian student over the railing once. He was disruptive and loud in Mr's Hung's class and repeatedly ignored her requests for him to be quiet. When she asked him to leave since he wouldn't be quiet he kicked a support column, kicked a chair, shouted "I'm the best thing you have in this class" stomped out and slammed the door. Don't know if it's true, but his friends said he got $100/week allowance and spent $80 of it on booze. I know he and some of the other kids liked to go to clubs and drink.
I remember at the time I thought he deserved to be caned, but now I don't think so. He shouldn't have been dumb enough to commit the crimes, but apparently he wasn't actually guilty of everything he admitted to and had bad legal advice. Plus I don't agree with corporal punishment.
Cars in Singapore are extremely expensive. 300% tax on the purchase price and they have to be kept new. I don't think they allow cars older than 5 years. Don't know if its true, but I heard one of the cars vandalized belonged to a judge's wife. And I also think that the anti-vandalism law was originally intended to deter communists who were using graffiti and vandalism to encourage insurrection against the government.
I vaguely recall being told that when golfing, some of the people would joke that the Americans had 2 strokes deducted in their games because of it. Note, I did not play golf, nor did anyone in my family, but my father worked with the US Embassy and told me about some of the jokes he'd heard from people there.
Oh hey, 14min and 12 sec in and I see Stephen (although the video is blurry).
I actually met George Bush Sr at an embassy event when all this mess was going on. He asked me what school I went to and when I told him, he asked me about Michael Fay.
I do love that this video ended on "Fuck Around and Find Out".
I totally agree with everything you wrote... I live here in a little farming town in Utah.. I call it my comfort zone.. If I did go to another country ,, I certainly would obey all the rules Although some of them seem outlandish.. Like no gum chewing... What are they afraid of ? Someone throwing a piece of chewing gum on the ground??
@@teresewecker They outlawed gum because it literally gummed up the doors for the MRT (Mass Rapid Transit) system and caused delays. It was causing all sorts of problems and they discussed it and said that banning gum entirely was the way to go so it wouldn't happen. They take littering very seriously there too. People caught littering not only have to pay fines, but have to do community service picking up trash while wearing vests that identify them as litterers so shame them. At least, that's what they did back when I lived there.
Wow! Crazy you know more about this than 99% of what media was saying
@@teresewecker I thought I had replied to this but don't see my reply. The chewing gum was banned because it literally gummed up the doors for the MRT (Mass Rapid Transit) system. Shortly after it went operational, there were delays because gum was getting stuck in the doors and causing them to not close or open. They held an emergency legislative session and decided the solution would be to ban gum. Once it was outlawed, the problem with the doors stopped and they didn't have any accidents with the MRT for about 10yrs. The 1st one I recall happening was when someone operating a wrecking ball at a construction site effed up accidentally swung the ball into the tracks. No idea on the accident statistics since then though. I haven't been back to Singapore in decades.
Thanks for the additional info.
I remember when this happened. I also remember that most polls taken in the United States agreed that the boy should caned. He went into a foreign country and broke laws therefore he should be held accountable for breaking those laws. I also remember his father doing an interview stating that his son was shocked that most Americans agreed with the sentence
3:40 love for Trinidad
I remember it too. I was surprised how much of a fuss was made over it. I remember most people agreeing with the sentence he received as well.
Every country is entitled to their own laws and to mete it out to anyone on their soil, foreigner or not.
i wish we had this same policy in the US. Hard caning/flogging for vandals. Impotent Us laws is why my car got keyscratched again. These low life scum have no regard for others. I wish the worst on vandals…
He should have thought of the consequences before vandalising cars and stealing road signs in Singapore.
This is a great video. And yeah who wants to get canned but maybe don't vandalise?
In the US, there were many cases where murderers could get away with their crimes. The most they will give is life in prison. Well remember, the world is not your playground. This is what makes Singapore safe.
I wonder why the US got rid of physical punishments.
If you can't do the cane, don't do the crime.
There was a saying in my youth that went like this:
“It wasn’t the threat of a ass whipping that kept us from doing wrong…….but the certainty of it!
There are different kind of caning...he got the soft version...
True some countries use a leather whip
You wouldn't call it soft once you see the actual cane. That sucker has the same diameter as that of a US quarter (20c coin for the Singaporeans)
Great video! just subscribed
We should bring this back as a punishment in usa 😂😂😂
BRO It Would Be BAAAAADDD
@@haileeraestout5567 no it won't the crime rate would drop significantly because people would learn there actions have consequences as the saying goes "F*** around and find out "
@@hadbetterdays8118how is it any different from prison rapes, prison murders, prisoners getting castrated etc etc??!!! How is it worse than that? You people are so goddamn stupid. You think prisoners suffer no consequences? Believe me they suffer worse than lashings. And you wholeheartedly believe this would change anything? You're so simple.
@@hadbetterdays8118& have prisons like North Korea. No commissary & one letter a month. No phone calls. Sit Indian style for 22 hrs a day. Plus caning. I bet crime would slow tf down.
@@haileeraestout5567if u think that's bad, u probably a criminal
Well done clip..very informative..ITS TONG..NOT Tang...good effort in producing the video 💕😊
AKA He Got The Biggest Spanken In HISTORY
Michael P Fay has gotten his life together and as of the late 2010s is now a casino manager.
I wouldn't necessarily say that he "got his life together". He was 19 and did something stupid. Your comment implies he was a God Damned murderer or something.
@@lf2334 lol shut up. If you did more research into his crime you would know why he got that punishment. The fact that he felt confident enough to pull this shit in another country disregarding their law says everything about his character. He should've received harsher punishment but white privilege got him off. As always, Americans acting like the world revolves around them.
@@lf2334 He was an alcoholic from what I recall. He went out drinking a LOT on weekends. He was also super bratty in one of the classes we had together. He was actually quiet and well-behaved when his friends weren't in class, but in classes with his friends he was a major disruptive jerk. I think he got on drugs after the arrest and there were allegations of domestic violence. But after that it sounds like he got back on track.
I hope he's doing well. He seemed like a troubled kid. Spoiled and bratty in school but I think he wasn't getting attention at home or something.I don't think this incident got him to behave any better.
Corporal punishment of the ass in public schools (even against 18-year-olds) is still legal in 17 states tho?
Tis news of Singapore strict laws has etched into everyone's memories till today, look at even the social media...the discussion about a 1993 incident is still ongoing...so the Sg laws really works....if any criminals wanna commit crimes in Sg, they will definitely tink twice b4 they commit...hence the low crime rate 😊
surprised he didn't mention the goofy ahh singaporean parody of "We didn't start the fire" called "We live in Singapura" that basically summarised Singaporean history up until 2006
there was this one line in the song 'Michael Fay pain in the butt' referencing Fay's caning
Long live Singapore. A country definitively in better shape then US or EU today.
small country so easier to control its populace.
@@bball3048mmcontrol discipline or civilise?
Subbed! This channel is a gem
Well study up on different countries and dont break thier laws 🤷...
If you ask me, Michael Faye got it pretty easy compared to how I would’ve responded. If I found out, he spray-painted my car. It could’ve been much worse for him. He got it pretty easy with just a cane
"Eye 4 an Eye!" Corporal Punishment as a minimum. Kid Gloves on Perps Does Not Work. It is a sad affair these days in America. Embarrassing, to be honest.
6 strokes is not the end of the world for a grown man.
And if it was a woman?
@@omalone1169women don't get canned
Law and order is just and right in Singapore and UAE so there are no psycopaths, murderers or other such terrible criminals.
It’s not either in Japan, Switzerland, Norway, or Sweden. Go figure.
Because they get removed ASAP.
We have a lawlessness and incarceration problem. Corporal punishment in lieu of longer prison sentences helps the perpetrators (it’s corrective and they can return to society sooner) and society. Recidivism rates would drop and the law will be respected. Prisons are unfortunately mostly just colleges for criminals where you receive an associate degree in criminality.
The caning was also referenced by an Easter egg in the 1997 video game Shadow Warrior in which a man is seen being caned on fictional news channel SNN.
The first I heard of the incident was by the Weird Al song. I don't remember if the incident was reported in the news where I'm from - the UK - also I was only 10. Probably thought it was funny.
There's some S tier brain rot in this comment section 😂
“When a state of increasing disorder and defiance of authority cannot be checked by the rules then existing, new and sometimes drastic rules have to be forged to maintain order: so that the law can continue to govern human relations. The alternative is to surrender order to chaos and anarchy.”- Lee Kuan Yew
Who is this person ?
@@omalone1169 Lee Kuan Yew (born September 16, 1923, Singapore-died March 23, 2015, Singapore) was a politician and lawyer who was prime minister of Singapore from 1959 to 1990. Widely regarded as the founding father of modern Singapore, Lee transformed the city-state from a small, resource-deficient British colony with high rates of illiteracy into the most prosperous country in Southeast Asia. Under his leadership, Singapore developed a robust economy with one of the highest GDP per capita figures in Asia.
@@Solo-Road ...And also one of the cleanest, safest countries on earth, and he was going to be confounded if he let some snotty American punk who couldn't even behave himself in his own country ruin it.
@@Solo-Road ....And after everything the Singaporeans had been through during the previous 50 years, including Japanese occupation during WWII, you could be pretty sure he wasn't about to let some snotty American punk who couldn't behave himself in his own country ruin his life's work.
There should be a lawsuit for what have happened.
Question: Whatever happened to this young man? What is he doing right now? Does anybody know? 2024, USA, October.
For a crime I did not commit... under interrogation I was stripped to my undies, sprayed with water and stand in-front of the air-con in Mowbray camp
OUCH
I remember that. I think it was during the Clinton area and everyone here in America started to complaint.
Tell me you didnt grew up in an asian household without telling growing up in an asian household.
i agree with it, sad to see it voted out in my country
Bet he won’t do it again….
No he probably did it again when in the US.
@@bball3048mmno, just busted for drug abuse because he had PTSD from the caning.
@@bball3048mmmaybe he likes mortification
Where is he now???😂😂😂😂😂😂
Agree it well made video supported by informations.
What do we need to do to apply canning to get our state of New Mexico in the U.S. to decrease the high crime!?
America doesn't and look at crime here. It was obvious where the issue lied with this case and americas sensibilities...... The protected class can get punished for wrongdoings even if they get off free in the USA.
I. Had 3 strokes of the cane across my ass. In 1973 which left. Slash marks and. Cuts and bruising. I. Cou. The teacher use 2.boast what an expert he was ld nt sit down 4 a week.
Fey didn’t do it
This would never happen in the USA, why? 8th Amendment. That’s what is great about USA.
i wish we had this same policy in the US. Hard caning/flogging for vandals. Impotent Us laws is why my car got keyscratched again. These low life scum have no regard for others. I wish the worst on vandals…
Well spoken! *subscribes and likes* Also I'm totally with this seeing as the ADULTS were being stupid and criminal. They aren't children who dont understand but most likely come from money that leads them to think that it's fine as long as they pay its fine...so yeah the canning should send a pretty good message.
American hubris on full display
Mom can beat us with anything she had in her hands 😂😂😂
Careful don’t have a girl picture on your profile or you will get canned as well
When in Rome!
Its goh chok tong😅😅
& you wonder why I want trump sent here for punishment for his crimes?
他還是個孩子啊～～～～
ong hi
FAFO
noob
God bless AMerica
He isn't doing a good job
@@Hotmaildotcomzwhat makes you say that tho? I'm curious.
The title is michael incident. But you explain the punishment. Not totally his story 😂