feel like it would have been better bang for your buck to go from Ultegra to Dura ace 100grams vs almost 300. I've not ridden and sl8, but I ride a pro sl7 frame, and have ridden an S-works. Not saying I'm some Cat1 guy, but I do have a 1300 watt sprint, and can't tell an appreciable difference that I can point to and say that it definitely isn't just placebo.
I have the Dura Ace / S-works SL8 and I can confirm he made the right choice. It's so easy to change groupsets down the line. Wait a little more for the next gen dura ace to come out, get the current 12 speed version for dirt cheap and voila.
virtually no diff in stiffness between sworks vs pro sl8. 100gm light that is it. what your feeling is buyer bias. but the sworks for amzing paint and the logo. that is it. fyi the size of the bb does not determine stiffness it is mostly on the carbon layup.
Probably right but the overall feel is slightly different. Standing up on pedals on pro felt a little more flat/muted vs springy and lively on s works. Likely no actual difference in stiffness other than feel.
How do you know this? I've been trying to decide between sworks frame + normal wheels or normal frame + better wheels. The best source I've come across is an interview from specialized talking about using more 10r carbon pieces to meet 12r specs. But there has to be a physical limit on the shape and size for the 10r CF pieces to approximate the lay in the individual fibres of the 12r, the same way continous strand and short strand fibres work in fibre reinforced engineering plastics. For example, stacking a 0.2 mm thick 10r sheet on top of a 1 mm thick 10r sheet doesn't make it have the same stiffness as a 1 mm thick 12r sheet in all directions in a cycling situation with loads from the road coming everywhere.
I'm proud of you sir.
agree and I do have DA cassette which is the largest item per gram
Allez > SL8 Pro > S-Works SL8... reached the depth of that specialized-rabbit hole! 👀
feel like it would have been better bang for your buck to go from Ultegra to Dura ace 100grams vs almost 300. I've not ridden and sl8, but I ride a pro sl7 frame, and have ridden an S-works. Not saying I'm some Cat1 guy, but I do have a 1300 watt sprint, and can't tell an appreciable difference that I can point to and say that it definitely isn't just placebo.
I wasn’t chasing weight, was after stiffer ride and a cool paint job 😂
I have the Dura Ace / S-works SL8 and I can confirm he made the right choice. It's so easy to change groupsets down the line. Wait a little more for the next gen dura ace to come out, get the current 12 speed version for dirt cheap and voila.
Isn't white one of the heavier colorways? that makes the weight even more impressive for the pro 🤔
It was impressive for sure!
virtually no diff in stiffness between sworks vs pro sl8. 100gm light that is it. what your feeling is buyer bias. but the sworks for amzing paint and the logo. that is it. fyi the size of the bb does not determine stiffness it is mostly on the carbon layup.
Probably right but the overall feel is slightly different. Standing up on pedals on pro felt a little more flat/muted vs springy and lively on s works. Likely no actual difference in stiffness other than feel.
@@addictcyclistI have specialized and the sworks n I noticed the same thing 😊
How do you know this? I've been trying to decide between sworks frame + normal wheels or normal frame + better wheels. The best source I've come across is an interview from specialized talking about using more 10r carbon pieces to meet 12r specs. But there has to be a physical limit on the shape and size for the 10r CF pieces to approximate the lay in the individual fibres of the 12r, the same way continous strand and short strand fibres work in fibre reinforced engineering plastics. For example, stacking a 0.2 mm thick 10r sheet on top of a 1 mm thick 10r sheet doesn't make it have the same stiffness as a 1 mm thick 12r sheet in all directions in a cycling situation with loads from the road coming everywhere.
Man switching it up more than riding it
Truth!
@@addictcyclist I respect it!