What is the treatment for CIRS?
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- Interested in knowing about the strategies on how to treat CIRS? You have come to the right place.
Welcome to part 4 of our Mold Wars series and let's talk about Treating CiRS.
💡 Effective Mold Treatments
💪 The Power of Binders
🌿 The Alternative Binders
❓ Things to Consider and Controversies
🌟 The Game Changer: Lipid Therapy
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I love this video so much! I love that you just hammered right in and focused on the cures and didn’t go yammering on about the problem for an hour and a half. Thank you I found this incredibly helpful.
Thank you! Your feedback means a lot.
Me too! Somehow I've become overly sensitive to the higher pitched female voices. When coupled with the "jazz hands" presentation style, I can't take in the information well.
I have CIRS. I had to stop treatment because I was reacting so badly. I hope I can start treatment again once I get in a clean environment
I wish you the best of luck! We have a free micro-course called "Creating a Healthy Home" if that could help you along your journey-> creatingahealthyhome.connected-health.com/
Good video! Constructive correction: you mention Dr. Andrew Heyman twice but the graphic actually shows Dr. Mark Hyman.
Thank you for pointing that out, will try to review this review and make sure that this won't happen again in the next ones.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 💊 *Treating mold in CIRS with binders,*
- Mold detoxification primarily occurs through the liver into bile and feces.
- Cholestyramine and welchol are pharmaceutical binders often used, but they can cause intolerances due to fillers.
- Okra and beet fiber have shown effectiveness as binders, providing alternatives to pharmaceutical options.
02:48 🌱 *Fiber as a natural detoxifier,*
- Fiber, particularly from sources like okra and beet, can effectively bind mold toxins.
- The average American diet lacks sufficient fiber intake, which impacts detoxification.
- Increasing fiber intake to around 40 grams daily can support detoxification processes and overall health.
05:19 🧬 *Maximizing detoxification with lipid therapy,*
- Lipid therapy, including phosphatidylcholine and omega-3/6 fatty acids, aids in detoxification and reduces inflammation.
- Lipid therapy focuses on enhancing bile production and improving mitochondrial function.
- Individualized approaches are crucial in tailoring treatments based on patient tolerance and needs.
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Wow, I appreciate your comment. Thank you for adding this.
Interesting info... I utilized a raw meat diet with white rice and Canxida to get through the issues after going through all kinds of tactics and procedures.
raw meat diet and white rice, not sure how white rice helps with yeast or candida issues, because it actually can drive it. As far as raw meat, you actually have to have a functional enough GI tract to digest raw meat, which is the reason why many people with chronic health issues don't do well with it. You can always cook the meat in a crock pot, and slow cook to make it easy to digest. I utilize a carnivore-type diet with my patients who have SIBO and are hypermobile. And by exam looks like they have protein malnutrition, which is actually quite common. There are many diets and many options for many people, you ultimately have to individualize whatever you're doing for yourself, working with a skilled practitioner who can actually do this. You might want to check out our blog site to learn more about treatment protocols, and other resources! :)
@@AaronHartmanMD I am grateful for the feedback, I disagree about raw meat, raw meat is the easiest food source other than fruit to digest for human beings. I am sure you have helped many individuals get back to health but for me the standard modalities did not work. I had to address both psychological and somatic issues, as manifestations can come from either end which affect one another and add to the complexities, as I am sure you well know by now. I hope you continue to bring people back form such a devastating health issue.
Hi, Just a heads up - you put up a picture of Mark Hyman MD rather than Andrew Heyman MD.
I have never seen anyone get well after getting CIRS from mold exposure. This is why they have big conferences now and people are popping up support groups. These conferences and support groups exist because no one is fixing this issue. I don't think you are healing people from CIRS either. At best, people temporarily feel a little better to then relapse later. They stay under treatment for years and years without ever gaining their life back.
Shoemaker doesnt really talk about fiber, and a lot of CIRS practitioners recommend carnivore, fiber-free diet. I dont see fiber as essential and if it was a good binder then we wouldnt need the cholestyramine
Shoemaker and cirs is a clown show. Useless in toxic tort. Devoid of current science and clinical correlation... your protocol would kill pts w DNA mimicry... HDM never mentioned.. sad. Shoemaker has an ancient culture. Hey Doc. You ever test for HDMs? ROS... Shoemaker is blind and grind BS.
I actually think that’s why I’m feeling better, I couldn’t work out why but after seeing the role of fibre hear I’m staring to think this is why.
I tried carnivore and keto and it made me worse, it gave me severe restless legs - which I still have years later and dumping syndrome.
@@Vgalloahhh thank you!! I have the worst restless leg syndrome now for a week. Kills any deep sleep possible. Thought it was from starting to work out again. This is all such a nightmare!
What about modified citrus pectin as a fiber source?
Modified citrus pectin is a great source, but it's mainly used for detoxification binding heavy metals, as well as binding gut endotoxins. You can use it for a fiber source for these but it's not primarily for feeding the gut bacteria.
@@AaronHartmanMD Thanks! I noticed it’s high in sugar, so maybe not great for yeast overgrowth?
Modified citrus pectin is a fiber and so you will see it measuring carbohydrates on a nutritional label. But saying a fiber has four milligrams of carbohydrate is not the same thing as sugar. So it should not have a detrimental effect on yeast overgrowth. :)
Thanks for the reply!
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@@AaronHartmanMD thanks for the reply!
I stutter now. My brain is inflamed. There are no doctors in OKC to help me. I’m doing nerofeedback and it hasn’t helped. I need help. My OcratoxinA was 15.55 It’s so high. My landlord said it wouldn’t make me sick. I no longer live there as of May 2nd 24. I’m not better and I’m an intelligent woman but I can’t think right anymore.
I'm sorry to hear about your condition. I invite you to check out our latest series talking about mold related illness, and the information associated with each episode here that could help you discover more information about the illness: richmondfunctionalmedicine.com/paradigm-shift-mold-cirs/
I have been exposed to mold for 5 yrs it reeked havoc on my entire body iam very sensitive to mold now been back and forth to the drs with no help I no longer live in the home with mold but I’m still suffering and don’t know where to start iam always sick with multiple infections that I didn’t have before the exposure I was on cholestryamine for constant diarrhea but it didn’t help made me severely constipated even using fiber I don’t know what to do I feel miserable and helpless 😢 I have been to the gastroenterologist multiple times over the last 5 yrs with absolutely NO HELP 🤦🏽♀️ and I know iam dealing with cirs I still have a lot of inflammation even a yr later
This CIRS Treatment Protocol blog may be able to help you out further: richmondfunctionalmedicine.com/mold-related-biotoxin-illness-part4/
How come I didn’t get CIRS until working in a WDB if Actinos are produced on our skin? Also once you clear Marcons you can go on VIP right? Doesn’t VIP bring down the inflammation?
Hi, it's a little more complicated than that. You need a triggering event; you can live in a moldy building for years and have exposure. But something has to push you over the edge. Sometimes it's time. Sometimes it's a concussion or a tick bite. Sometimes it's something else. So just having actinomycin on your skin won't give you Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. And you need to pass your visual contrast sensitivity test and have a negative mark on it before we can move on with the VIP steps. VIP is the pinnacle among the steps, specifically Step 13. After you've completed the other steps, yes, VIP does contribute to reducing inflammation. However, typically, most people's inflammation has already decreased significantly by the time they reach the point of being able to use VIP.
@@RIFMAdmin I see. Doesn’t Marcons drive inflammation?
@@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth Short answer, yes it does.
If alcohol sugars/sweetners give you constipation, your problem is very likely Intestinal Methanogen Overgrowth instead of an elusive condition with very little research behind it such as CIRS.
If you think I’m wrong, please point me to some proper research about this, because I can’t find it.
Alcohols, sugar alcohols, and artificial sweeteners all impact have impacts on your gut microbiome at different levels to different degrees. Not only with methane-producing bacteria but the general dysbiosis. I would just refer you to PubMed and research those items with dysbiosis SIBO. Or you can use access to this via Google Scholar. But the research is pretty proliferative.
Do you have CIRS? Not so sure I'd describe it as an elusive condition. More so (truly awful) is what I'd say. It's almost like the complete opposite of auto immune. Your body doesn't even make the antiboties to fight the mycotoxins or biotoxin. You're just a sitting duck getting sicker and sicker over time until you can barely function in normal daily life.
@@Headingtowardhealing that is, indeed, what they say it is like. Yet it would not make any sense at all that your body doesn’t detoxify these compounds. This gene in any animal wouldn’t have survived throughout evolution, so only a couple of rare cases would experience this, yet it’s being sold as a very common condition. So either it’s true, but very, very rare, or it’s something else.
My practitioner only uses mycobind ? Do you think I should ask for cholestyramine or welchol?
Hi there! There are many different kinds of binders you can use but with the current literature, the most powerful binder is Cholestyramine or Welchol. After that, the next most common one is Mycobind, which is a combination of beet and okra fiber. This is a great product that Dr Hartman uses but typically is used after a patient has failed Cholestyramine or Welchol or after they've done those and they're going to be on it for a long time.
As a binder
Can i become a patient if i live in another state?
We are currently working on an exciting solution for our non-local community. Stay tuned for October!
So what if you have mycotoxin illness as well as sibo? Arent you meant to stay away from fibre if you have sibo?
It is very common to have chronic inflammatory response syndrome as well as SIBO and so you have to be careful. Yes, many people with SIBO have issues with fiber, but that is related to the gut bacteria. So part of treating SIBO will actually get people to be able to tolerate fiber. Fiber is nature's mycotoxin binder and we really should be getting closer to 60 to 70 grams a day. owever, if someone has SIBO they won't be able to tolerate most fiber. And so binders like activated charcoal clay, chlorella, bentonite, cholestyramine, Welchol are the main used binders. But the goal is to get the SIBO in remission so that fiber can be reintroduced.
Exactly. I’m living it. Tough to navigate what to eat, unless you have a highly skilled practitioner and hoards of tests to determine how to treat the problem(s)
Whats the best way you recommend to get the 40+ grams of fiber? Eating a certain something or a kind of powder drink?
Hi there! I know getting in 40 grams of protein can be challenging for some, but don't worry. One of our health coaches, Jeni, has shared an article along with some recipes on how you can actually achieve 40 grams of protein in a day! Here's the link: richmondfunctionalmedicine.com/the-fiber-fix/
@@RIFMAdmin Thanks but my question was for Fiber not Protein. Getting plenty of Proteins is pretty easy for me.
@@holylabs Sorry! I misspoke (type), that's a blog post for Fiber, not protein!
Curious- what type of Okra? Is this a powder, pill? What format for Okra? Thank you
We use a special mix called Mycobind, which combines okra and beets as a binder. Right now, you can easily buy and enjoy fresh okra because it's in season. Hope this answer helps!
@@AaronHartmanMD Has dired Okra 4:! extract any use? Without gall salt?
Hi, I'm reacting to oxalates. Is Mycobind safe option for people with oxalate intolerance?
Hello. I heard Dr. Shoemaker say in one video "patients would ruin their therapy, by taking curcumin at the wrong point of time". No further explenation. That statement makes me wonder, and gives me insecurity. How could he possibly meant this? Thanks
I would just respond to Dr. Shoemaker's statement that one of his colleagues Dr. Andrew Heyman routinely uses Curcumin with patients with CIRS and they publish the textbook together and teach it together and they have differing views on the use of curcumin. This is unfortunately common in integrative medicine, and I would not get overly concerned about this singular statement. Since curcumin has so many great uses.
@@AaronHartmanMD Thank you. Today, I started an ozon therapy, intravenous.
Have you heard of or looked at Dr Isaac Eliaz Pectasol
What's confusing to me is I have gone through phases in life where I have been sick then really well then sick again. So I don't know if this is how CIRS works or not.
I do know I get a lot better when eating strict carnivore/ketovore. Bone broth helps more than anything. Activated charcoal helps a lot too. Cruciferous veg help but they can cause constipation. I'm having a hard time understanding if I just have really bad leaky gut or if it's CIRS, or both.
Are you accepting patients?
Hi @katstaff317, the issues you mentioned are some of the matters our doctors at RIFM have been addressing with our patients. Some individuals need a higher protein content and must attend to their gut, a concern that the carnivore diet can help with. Many people also need trace minerals, and bone broth significantly contributes to meeting this requirement, along with binders in general. So these are all things they see on a routine basis.
We do accept patients, please check this link for more details: richmondfunctionalmedicine.com/patient-membership/
@@RIFMAdmin Thank you for replying! If I have I have the budget, I will look into getting more help. If not, I'll keep doing what I know works the best for me. 😊
@@katstaff317 You're welcome! You might want to consider subscribing to our newsletter to receive weekly updates about a blog either from Dr. Hartman or one of our Health Coaches. You might be able to get some insights on how to improve your health richmondfunctionalmedicine.com/newsletter/
We wish you best of luck on your health journey! 😊
Maybe see if the times you feel better you have left an area that had mold.
Do you know of any CIRS specialists in Oregon?
I do not know of any CIRS specialists in Oregon, unfortunately, but you may try reaching out to A4M to see if anybody has trained through Dr. Shoemaker or Dr. Heyman in their training that might be in Oregon.
And, by the way, I am desperatly searching for a CIRS specialist in germany. :-/
I do not have any recommendations for Germany unfortunately. I'm sorry, best of wishes.
did you find any?
@@BC-sb9ui Not really. I have also other issues. gut, mycotoxins, mold in the body, heavy metals, brain inflammatin, MCAS
@@JuanMatus-ro9qkI have all the same!!!! On a low amylose diet and now low Salicylate diet. Down to about 10 things I can eat!!
Check out Bioray NDF for heavy metal removal. I think I’m on it for 6 months or more for metal removal. See if you can get Cholestyramine. I’m supposed to take it 3-4x a day but can only get 3 in. My entire day is filled with taking protocol. The MARCoNS however I’m stumped as I was doing BE spray and using Xlear Rescue spray to offset irritation and had a massive nosebleed after 2.5 months on it. Not sure how I’ll get rid of it now. 😢