DBC vs Amity x Dan Dannah vs Ren DMC - Pen Game Rap Battle (Season 3 Ep. 5) | Link Up TV Originals

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  • Episode 5 of Margs x 18k Productions’ Pen Game Rap Battle sees the the curtain rise on the second round of the group stages as DBC faces off against Amity, and Dan Dannah faced Ren DMC in the return of group A.
    The winners of each battle collect 3 points each and will face off against the other rappers in the group in later episodes to see who makes it to the quarter final stages.
    Let us know what you thought of the battle and if you agree with the judges final verdict in the comment section below!
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  • @Skorks22
    @Skorks22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Ren dmc is carrying this whole show , put some respect on the bruddas name

    • @northb271
      @northb271 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For real the other people just try to do a verse that can be about anyone like some shitty drill song that's not battle rap

  • @bigmikey2842
    @bigmikey2842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Ren was robbed so bad😭😭😭😭

  • @TheCNSR
    @TheCNSR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    1st battle was meh, glad Joey said it. It was lacking conviction and penwork altogether. Dan and Ren was the exact opposite; Dan had bare conviction and Ren had the maddest penwork. For that reason, I think Ren should have won. He can add vim to his bars, but adding mad wordplay might not be as simple if you don't have the talent for it. I hope Ashley Tragic gets his reparations in the next ep though still.

  • @FlywithM1
    @FlywithM1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Yeah, judges got this one wrong imo. Ren was very direct with his bars - everything was direct and disrespectful

    • @reevus01
      @reevus01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      REN 100% delivery ( clear and understandable)
      the other guy was trying too hard that I cant even hear what he is saying too much noise in his voice ( Raspy voice is not the best for rapping)

  • @OnlineViewingOnly
    @OnlineViewingOnly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    That Ren and Dan battle was the best one this season, both came through solid. That match up should have been final worthy. Ren just about takes it for me with the effortless flow and how he chose the beats well to go with the lyrics/ certain punchlines

    • @unpopularopinion2647
      @unpopularopinion2647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Absolutely bro, they both killed it. Anybody who isn’t coming on that level isn’t worthy of being on the show in my opinion. Best battle so far Ren took it for me his beat selection was crazy. Bars and delivery was spot on💯

  • @miketyson4875
    @miketyson4875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Dan got energy and got bars but this isn’t an audition to be in a track. It’s a rap battle. Ren was disrespectful and got to Dan cos he didn’t like the mum talk but ren continued and kept getting disrespectful and this is what rap battles are all about. The judges going on like his comedy bars weren’t bars and he was just saying some comedy shit. It’s was direct bars that were insulting af… REN WON

    • @I-dont-care-
      @I-dont-care- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      the judges are dead tbh

    • @Vellyorla
      @Vellyorla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Literally pen game challenge was the music video this is a rap battle what a robbery

    • @JNM781
      @JNM781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      These judges are delusional. In the other round they were like you didn’t direct bars - Ren only direct his bars and they’re cold and you can tell Dan was offended. That’s what it’s about. Judges are clueless

    • @midgetgem5650
      @midgetgem5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Judges are clueless tbh

    • @empress_emss
      @empress_emss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!

  • @SophieWall
    @SophieWall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    No lie these judges have no clue what their talking about 🤣 a clash is meant to be funny and disrespectful and they gave it to the guy who was chatting bare gun and knife talk.

    • @michaelo9162
      @michaelo9162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I disagree still. I don't think its necessarily meant to be funny. Ren was creative with the bars but from the "your mum" content was all he had.

    • @SophieWall
      @SophieWall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@michaelo9162 But at least he actually sent for him though. That’s the whole point of a battle, to go for your opponent, and he did it on a personal level too

    • @midgetgem5650
      @midgetgem5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SophieWall exaclty it’s about dissing how can you say other guy is more hungry then ren when he don’t send for him he just does some flows

    • @borutootsutsuki8995
      @borutootsutsuki8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly what are they talking about you’re literally supposed to send for the other person and Ren was doing that the whole way through, the others just sound like they’re making a song

    • @rev3160
      @rev3160 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly nobody is tryna hear generic violent bars

  • @user-wz2fv2rs6q
    @user-wz2fv2rs6q 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    icl Ren won that, his bars were disrespectful

  • @relaxingzone2135
    @relaxingzone2135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Ren got robbed again

  • @Madiii25
    @Madiii25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    How REN lost is beyond me 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @RenDMC
    @RenDMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    18:00 #BACKSTORY 💡 THE TUBE LIGHTS AT THE CEILING COLLAPSED DURING ONE OF THE RAP BATTLES! 😂🤷🏾‍♂️ HOPE YOU GUYS ENJOYED THIS ONE THO!! PEACE & LOVE ✌🏾 ❤️ #RenDmc

    • @jaya8915
      @jaya8915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      U won this one bro. Got robbed

    • @HenryHouseFilms
      @HenryHouseFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      U won bro you’re defo next up next year

    • @borutootsutsuki8995
      @borutootsutsuki8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You’re the best there you know it

    • @kingofthenorth8741
      @kingofthenorth8741 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yo ren, I'm hear to see this for the first time.... just watching the end of the first rap, but I hear you got robbed again? Mannnnn, we need to regulate these refs ASAP.
      You remind me of the Grime UK "Illmaculate"... so far I'm yet to see anyone keep the rooms focus whilst pumping out devilish cheeky bars.
      Well done man

    • @RenDMC
      @RenDMC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kingofthenorth8741 big up G! Appreciate that. 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾🔋

  • @DeadleeDan
    @DeadleeDan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Ren DMC 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👊🏾👊🏾⚡️ 🔥

  • @realitymusic2248
    @realitymusic2248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Yes Dan had bars, flow & energy.. but Rens attention to being in a live battle and craftsmanship for this was the difference for me.. Same as last time Rens skills went over heads..probably cus he makes it look easy.. he played like he forgot his bars and fooled everyone.. his outside the box thinking should have given him win..

  • @SkamzSousa
    @SkamzSousa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That first battle was a shambles 🤣🤣

  • @moresuperiorwear
    @moresuperiorwear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    'Ren DMC' won this & should not of took the L! Sick battle though still. It would be good if they had to go at it once last round to make it clear who can freestyle better with no bars written. A rematch with these two man would be a good look for the viewers 100!

  • @Rio-ol7dd
    @Rio-ol7dd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The judges need to keep the same energy!!! Your getting onto DBC for spitting random bars but your not saying the same thing to Dan. ITS A RAP BATTLE, your supposed to get onto each other directly. Ren won that battle with ease. His bars were direct shots!

    • @borutootsutsuki8995
      @borutootsutsuki8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly these judges know nothing about rap battling, Ren Dmc is the only battle rapper there imo

    • @tmntsfinest754
      @tmntsfinest754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amity can actually battle rap, I had to look up his ting. Quite a few of these guys here are battle rappers by trade but the whole concept of this pengame rap battle is flawed in the sense that guys can’t spit without a beat.

  • @akgotdadrac0355
    @akgotdadrac0355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    the judges are letting this show down ngl

    • @BROADBANNED
      @BROADBANNED 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      .....and 2 years later.... the judges are still clowns. They must recruit these judges from the local circus.

  • @Kore7Viewing13
    @Kore7Viewing13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Joey was on point with what he said about the gun talk in the first battle. It’s longggg, need to switch it up and actually say disrespectful and funny stuff to each other.

  • @JNM781
    @JNM781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yeah, judges were clueless on this one. It’s almost as if they forget what rap battling was

  • @quinceythawaites1386
    @quinceythawaites1386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ren dmc should of won its battle rap wtf

  • @Bcopper98
    @Bcopper98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    'YOU LISTEN TO DUTCH AND TAYLOR SWIFT' lmaoooo you cannot deny REN is the BEST!!!

  • @DTM532
    @DTM532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Ren DMC robbed.

  • @DipsetDaMovement
    @DipsetDaMovement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ren won that hands down, those judges are mad

  • @gwopele
    @gwopele 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    ren is tooo cold loool

  • @1234frite
    @1234frite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a VIO - Ren DMC defo won that battle guys lets be honest here.

  • @xav.2324
    @xav.2324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good battle but ren won the punchline and beat selection was on point but dan dannah was incredible aswell

  • @shortclips4uuuu
    @shortclips4uuuu ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Judges are bugging Ren had him in a chokehold 😂

  • @CeeAli
    @CeeAli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Where they get dem judges from...Think the judges were friends with Dan...How can say it was difficult, REN was on fire and full steam ahead. He's just LIT.. his bars are on fire, hes funny....Its all the comments that matter anyway.. Everyone say its REN..REN IS THE CLEAR WINNER..

  • @Triddle26
    @Triddle26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think Ren DMC’s first round was round of the season

  • @kingkyle.0.0.7
    @kingkyle.0.0.7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hard battle thought Dan was gonna bang ren in his jaw couple times but margs save at the end cracked man up almost revealed a bit too much 😂😂😂😂

  • @neighbourhoodtiesuk
    @neighbourhoodtiesuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Da UK smack big up margs n all the real for tuning in About time a credible person took over the space 🔥🔥🔥

  • @thehype3678
    @thehype3678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ren DMC 🤣🔥

  • @presacanariox2558
    @presacanariox2558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ren was the winner in that battle all day long that was a robbery

  • @daessencetv8090
    @daessencetv8090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:37 "my opps are poo" is bando Kay's line 😭

  • @jlucia7738
    @jlucia7738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amaty round 2 I wanna hear that on a whole tune man went innnnn

  • @borutootsutsuki8995
    @borutootsutsuki8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It seems like these judges don’t know the difference between a rap battle and a talent show, ridiculous….Ren Dmc won this

  • @adambailey93
    @adambailey93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ren DMC bars are funnnay 😂

  • @reeceparlato6574
    @reeceparlato6574 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rendmc is the coldiest in this ting!! Sware he kills man everytime !!

  • @lucasthedon88
    @lucasthedon88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I rate Dan Dannah but Ren smashed it!

  • @mikeelewis1398
    @mikeelewis1398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man bought Maccies to the battle I'm dead what was his plan

  • @DaaPoetry
    @DaaPoetry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Clueless judge's bar Joe Blacks...They need to understand essence if battle rap...Ren is 🔥

  • @diegofontane
    @diegofontane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They shud have brought Bigga back to show dem what clashes r about if yano about Bigga from the first Pen Game buss a like on this comment

  • @orinomo8377
    @orinomo8377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ppl saying Ren git robbed just couldnt keep up with Dans flow. He had bars and punchlines you were just missing them cos hes flow and delivery is A1. Thats what got him the win cos Ren was very good with lines but a bit 1 dimensional with the flow.

    • @midgetgem5650
      @midgetgem5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah but lemme ask you something is the show called flow game or pen game rap battle it’s about direct bars not flow the judges are waste men

    • @orinomo8377
      @orinomo8377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@midgetgem5650 My point was that Dan had direct bars too. You just missed them, watch it again. Since they both had bars but Dan was clearly better in other departments it makes sense that he won.

    • @borutootsutsuki8995
      @borutootsutsuki8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s a rap battle….not a talent show, Dan only really sends for him here and there most of what he’s talking about defeats the purpose of a rap battle, Ren Dmc literally sends for him directly every single bar

    • @dandannah8729
      @dandannah8729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borutootsutsuki8995 its not a traditional rap battle, this ain't 'don't flop' or anything else youve seen before, neither is it LOTM but a blend between the two. As you've no doubt noticed the show is drill themed and every contestant has the opportunity to approach the battle in which way they seem fit. In this particular battle Ren came with witty bars disrespecting mums and that, my angle was more that I didn't rate his lyrical ability and im a better spitter than him. You're fair to say you felt as if he should have won that because that's your opinion but on the day, the judges voted in my favour. Had it'd have been a different set of judges it could have gone the other way but read the room, if you was there you'd have seen that I out performed him in that particular bout and although the mic seemed to pic up what he was saying, on the day you couldn't take him in with the same level of clarity.

    • @maxhambly9407
      @maxhambly9407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is ren one dimensional? He switched up the flows switched up the beats switched up the disses switched up the punchlines but Dan just did 3 drill songs about killing and that’s it that’s the most 1 dimensional you can get pure whack for a rap battle would make good drill songs but all this talk about guns knives and killing is longggg nobody cares bruv saying your gonna kill someone ain’t a diss you gotta diss me diss family diss my clothes hair etc not just say ima kill you in different ways these judges are diabolical

  • @sakaandemilesmithrowe4471
    @sakaandemilesmithrowe4471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How did Ren not win

  • @rev3160
    @rev3160 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ren DMC is a menace

  • @rashaunadams-creary4604
    @rashaunadams-creary4604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How did Ren not win though?

  • @markmiller9447
    @markmiller9447 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ren won every round hands down it wasn't even close. Smh The judges are smoking buj.

  • @philippecharlesrose8442
    @philippecharlesrose8442 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did the first two get as far as they did? I'm going to take this battle thing out. Bad memory so will freestyle most times I'm guessing. 🌹

  • @zkkz7644
    @zkkz7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ren won that ded judges

  • @fromthebigo1538
    @fromthebigo1538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The energy between Dan and REN’s mad, 😂

    • @bigpcov3253
      @bigpcov3253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who's Darren 😂😂

  • @mikeelewis1398
    @mikeelewis1398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mans wearing a boohoo man pouch I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mehavfigetwehmineed
    @mehavfigetwehmineed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No way did ren dmc lose shit was funny as fuck

  • @FreedomReigns99
    @FreedomReigns99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ren won 2-1 for me.... Goat pengame battle though

  • @PluggedInNOW
    @PluggedInNOW 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    REN IS DA GOAT

  • @daessencetv8090
    @daessencetv8090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:13 that's when he lost the round. 👀

  • @P4PBoxingMedia
    @P4PBoxingMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the instrumental for dan dannah’s 3rd round?

  • @KayDargMusic
    @KayDargMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If we’re being real ren did not get robbed at all he’s boring , just gimmicks and mom jokes not real lyrical ability and that’s the truth this show is about lyrical ability not jokes , one flow and jokes ain’t gonna cut it

  • @theanonymousguy16
    @theanonymousguy16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ngl ren killed him

  • @S4YG3
    @S4YG3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These judges are tripping fr! What ren hard bars too so just cah he was funny he couldn’t get the win? Cmon man these guys need to be serious literally all the judges apart from the one who voted ren dont know what they’re doing

  • @johnblaze2688
    @johnblaze2688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amity was the underdog. He was too cold

  • @stevenbrown2522
    @stevenbrown2522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WE NEED MORE OF THIS 🌍🌍🌍🌍🌍🌍🌍🌍🌍🌍😎✌🏾

  • @latoyacasely-hayford9570
    @latoyacasely-hayford9570 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first clash was embarrassing. I personally wouldn’t of even broadcasted that. Absolutely pathetic

  • @nathanadeyinka2516
    @nathanadeyinka2516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How didn’t ren win,this is why black people don’t make it out the hood with bad decisions…kmt

    • @blackkid128
      @blackkid128 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

  • @dorianwojcik6155
    @dorianwojcik6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need Margs vs Joe

  • @lukemontana7355
    @lukemontana7355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nash is like Simon Cowell😂🐐

  • @AcesizOfficial
    @AcesizOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @ThefuriousteamFTW
    @ThefuriousteamFTW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Naaaaaah ren took this one blud, its a rap battle you’re supposed to be coming for eachother. Dan on the other hand got bars but it just wasnt battle rap 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @presacanariox2558
    @presacanariox2558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oi that was ruuuuuuuude 🤣🤣🤣

  • @lizzychaser9006
    @lizzychaser9006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LV NEEDS TO KEEP IT BRIEF!!!😴

    • @JNM781
      @JNM781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s lost

  • @jaya8915
    @jaya8915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Forget the Fury got robbed talk REN GOT ROBBED

  • @blacksun3152
    @blacksun3152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:58 joe blacks face 🤣🤣🤣

  • @yendeezy
    @yendeezy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amity was cooking

  • @BurgandyMH
    @BurgandyMH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t lie I’m not watching this show no more. Judges ain’t serious, fucking shit. Just vote for who they like. NEVER WATCHING AGAIN

  • @rohunter-surya6911
    @rohunter-surya6911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHAT how did Ren not win that last battle… battle rapping is a cussing match nah….? He dubbed my mans mumsie even after he got told to stop….!!!

  • @OriginalPrincey
    @OriginalPrincey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The judges are obviously drunk 🤣😂

  • @maxhambly9407
    @maxhambly9407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These judges are terrible they don’t have a clue. Ren won that by a mile

  • @Rivz1up
    @Rivz1up 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ren won for me

  • @teamttt6190
    @teamttt6190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ren dmc definitely took that one

  • @Scott-H-Town
    @Scott-H-Town 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big up Margs & joe black . One love from Hackney E8.E5.E9 . Mash Town . Pound gang 💯🔥🔥🔥

  • @DeadleeDan
    @DeadleeDan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dan dannah is good 👍🏾 too

  • @miguelanderson5185
    @miguelanderson5185 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that first clash was a bit boaring hard to watch but not easy to get up there and chat infront of people still

  • @JBridge-23
    @JBridge-23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro you know ren duppied his whole year back in the whole year 8 your mum era😂
    On a real ting I didn’t like dbc dropping them bars about guns gang and boxes bc bro if you were really about that are you really gonna be sat there in boohoo man?? And ren was fucking robbed Dans got bars a flow everything my man does is banging for a track but battle rap nah ren bodies any man these days

  • @AriGoldBawse
    @AriGoldBawse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get judges who understand battle rap

  • @LD1630
    @LD1630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only come to see Ren DMC vs Dan 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Justvel96_
    @Justvel96_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DAN is too cold 🥶 mummified

  • @footballequalslife7452
    @footballequalslife7452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ren smoked my man easily poor decision

  • @OnlyBiz1
    @OnlyBiz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wer u finding all these cappin wassyholes from🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ibmedtarawally4399
    @ibmedtarawally4399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Broad day robbery

  • @BurgandyMH
    @BurgandyMH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t lie I’m not watching this show no more. Judges ain’t serious, fucking shit. Just vote for who they like. Not everyone raps about smoke. NEVER WATCHING AGAIN

  • @mikeelewis1398
    @mikeelewis1398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first one was just waffling

  • @coldwater5814
    @coldwater5814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ren ud just built different

  • @DJDNAUK
    @DJDNAUK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    REN GOT ROBBED

  • @jpmugishapps
    @jpmugishapps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amity

  • @nocomment6711
    @nocomment6711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    REN all the way I ain’t watching this shit no more.

  • @jayjay-im2ml
    @jayjay-im2ml 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Renz won this 💯

  • @TheAssaultkid
    @TheAssaultkid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ren got robbed again. Everything Ren said was very direct, the total opposite of Dan. What the fuck is wrong with these judges? Ren's comedy shit was bars, Dan didn't out bar him and his bars were disrespectful cos it made Dan get upset.

  • @huzaiferkhanz7930
    @huzaiferkhanz7930 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man looks like safone on a mad one

  • @Cripinub1
    @Cripinub1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan killed it

  • @dimmadome0
    @dimmadome0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    imo DBC should give up, guy comes too repetitive and generic

  • @jaydeanrobinson1875
    @jaydeanrobinson1875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In order for you to get what you want from these guys you need to take away the instrumentals and actually bring the essence back