Grace reminds me a lot of like the physical embodiment of Yin Fyn. How James said she tasted like burnt sugar, her color scheme, her addictive nature....
yes! i honestly thought he was in love james when i first read nothing but shadows because he reaaaally wanted to be james’ friend and just the way he acts around him especially in cog
Craftyfood_lover17 yeah same!! i was hoping it wouldn’t be a tessa x will x jem thing but she said it’s some thing she’s never written like before !! Aaa
My favorite moment is when people are like “no Anna’s the worst” and Christopher is just like “don’t say anything bad about my sister I’ll fight you” Also the whole Lucy can command Jesse to do things could lead to some kinky stuff. I’m just saying
I just kept thinking that I want her to cut the bracelet with Cortana and break the bond between James and Grace because "Cortana can cut through anything" 😭
relationships that just have to be endgame - james x cordelia - anna x ariadne - alistair x thomas - jesse x lucie - matthew x happiness (or the new girl in the next book) (Christopher deserves better) i don’t take criticisms ;)
I just have to point out the moment when James is laying in his bed looking at the ceiling and is like that looks like a duck, my dad would be horrified haha!!!
I was afraid about the Carstairs' family tree but then we know that Cordelia's mom was pregnant so.. The descendants could be continued with this line.
You know when Cordelia cuts through the gate to the shadow realm with Cortana, and she sees all this worlds, one of them is "a beach and a bleeding moon" I immediately thought this was thule because Emma describes it that way in qoaad
@@SlumberUnicorns it already existed, it's just the timeline that went different in that moment, besides someone asked Cassandra today on tumblr, and she confirmed that, in fact, that was Thule!
crackpot theory for the next two books in the last hours: WAIT WHAT IF TATIANA’S DEATH AT THE END OF THE SERIES IS WHAT BRINGS JESSE BACK FROM THE DEAD SEEING AS IN TDA MALCOLM NEEDED BLACKTHORN BLOOD TO BRING BACK ANOTHER BLACKTHORN (ANABELLE)???
I have a reallly crazy theory, but I think that Grace's powers link to Ash Morgenstern's as mentioned in Ghosts of the Shadow market, Ash can make people love him and so can Grace. . .maybe they're related somehow by Lilith or the Seelie Queen. Maybe Benedict and the Seelie Queen had a child, Grace, or with Lilith because the Seelie queen is a faerie not a demon. Idk, i hope this theory is correct!
this whole Cordelia x James situation is fertile ground for a lot of angst and pain, but BOY do I want it BADLY. also, I need Matthew to love himself again and I think this needs to be a WHOLE team effort.
i was rooting for matthew and lucie the whole book just because of those subtle hints!! and then i ended up crushed when the whole matthew likes cordelia thing was introduced:((
I love how optimistic you are about Matthew's future because I've been really worried about his arc since the end of the book. He's not on the family tree (as deceptive as it is) and I've been SO WORRIED since I figured that out.
I like the nickname Daisy because Cordelia picked it herself, in the extras snippet she says she likes the nickname and James says “Why shouldn’t we call you Daisy, if you like it?” I like that it shows Cordelia’s self assuredness and even at a young age James admiring her choice and confidence. I do love Layla better, but I like that it is a family nickname.
Okay but can we talk about how cute that scene at the end was will Ariadne and Anna like omg that is so fricken cute . Also can we talk about how Barbara died because even though we didn’t know her well it was so sad. 😫 Cassie is really putting the Lightwoods through the ringer Thomas - heart broken over Alistair and his sister Eugenia - according to that time “ruined” Christopher - Almost died Barbara - dead The parents - sad over Barbara and there kids going through the same shit they went through then there is Anna - finally got the girl she loves fighting for her good for you Anna
I thought Magnus wouldnt be in the whole trilogy too but when he walked in I had to stop myself from screaming and when he said he might stay bc he smells something fishy I just cannot contain my happiness. Magnus saw through James and Cordelia oh man. Nobody knows Herondales as much as Magnus lmao.
I was SO UPSET when James was like "I don't love you, Cordelia." Like obviously you do!! And Ik it's wrong but I need Jesse to be brought back to life. Him and Lucie are too precious!!
I actually love the nickname daisy... but the nickname layla is awesome i wont lie. Also i liked the scene between cordelia and matthew when matthew said that she is kinda bossy for a girl with the nickname daisy -i died- and that scene gold
BUT SONA (Alastair's mom) is having a BABY and if the BABY is male he can continue the Carstairs line and Alastair can live with whoever he wants 🥺 edit: grammar
12:05 I love that you mixed up James & Will because I thought that too! James is a lot like Will but also completely different, i kind of think he got Tessa's calm smart and serious vibe thingy and I freakin love it. And also the part when you described Cordelia being a bit like clary but doesn't have her recklessness- I just love how she's always scheming and planning- kind of reminds me of jude duarte. But i love how brave she is. *fangirling*
@@mlsc2346 Yeah, they aren't alike...i love them either way. What i meant was that i love that both Jude and Cordelia have that same intelligent quality to plan things through any situation. It makes them such badass heroines uwu. 💕They have different personalities but they are very smart and i love that about them.
You like randomly just stopped a thought process whenever grace is mentioned and just start ranting like I can’t I feel the sameeeee EVERY TIME I THUNK OF HER I HATE HER
Cassie has said the family tree in clockwork princess is not to be trusted but I don't know how different the actual family lines are going to be and I'm scared about it because everyone is already so close to being married to their direct cousins. Also Matthew and Lucie need to be together but I know it's not going to happen and it hurts my soul :'((((( alas
everyone is rooting for lucie and jesse but I just haven't seen enough of him to be so sure, right now I'm definitelly leaning towards matthew and lucie (which seems impossible to ever happen)
Okay here's something I haven't seen a lot of people talking about. Emma's mom's name is also Cordelia. So you're telling me that a woman named Cordelia Townsend married John Carstairs who has a distant relation who was also named Cordelia. Nah fam. Keep in mind that Cassie connected Clary and Tessa by just having their last names sound alike. Now there are two characters in two different series who have the same name. Something is afoot. I don't trust it.
the name fray was a combination of the “f” from fairchild and the “ray” from gray that jocelyn and tessa and magnus came up with when she first met with magnus so she could properly hide her identity. that’s why they sound familiar. it’s from one of the novellas in the bane chronicles
Still, is weird. It could be nothing but it could be something . I also have a theory regarding the Carstairs owe the Herondales. I don’t see Alastair marrying a woman and the third Carstairs is a baby so I don’t think Emma Carstairs who has Cortana is descended from the third baby but from cordelia. It a very rare in that era to only have one child so I believe that one if the reasons for the fake family tree is that James and Cordelia has two babies and they decide that one of them should have the Carstairs name so she can give the baby Cortana. It s even a discussion in Cog between daisy Alastair and their father, the day Cortana chooses her.
Dylan Wickersham Oh and beyond that. Why does a Fairchild, Jocelyn, the ability to hide things into paper, a gift which could belong to someone with powers like a Herondale... Maybe the person Matthew ends up with Is Lucy after all, Cassie said on tumblr not to discredit a possible relationship between them. After all, she could marry both Jesse and math at different times in time.
So i have a theory that when grace mentions at the end of the book that she needs the bracelet to manipulate james because of his blood, it may be because that her powers were given to her by belial and so he(belial) is immune to her powers. And as james is belial's grandson and shares his blood, even he has this immunity to her charms, which is why grace has to use the bracelet that was given to her by Belial to make the spell work on James and constantly have him touch or kiss her to reinforce the power of the spell.
I have a theory that Belial's 'anchor' that he refers to in the epilogue is Sona's unborn baby. My reasons: - we've had weird baby stuff happen in every series so far (valentine's experiments, lilith's experiments, mortmain's experiments, the ultra powerful faerie babies) - the way the information was given to us was weirdly random and I definitely didn't notice any build up to it - there was no allusions to her changing her behaviours in any way, which is a staple when it comes to pregnancy arcs, - there's no third kid in the tree! And yes, the tree is misleading and all, but that feels like a pretty blatant missing piece!
Rachel Varghese so true especially about the last one! Cordelia mum is defo pregnant and that was sprung upon us very quickly. I think that that’s one of the key misleading details as the cairstairs line must continue otherwise cortina wouldn’t be given to emma right?
Someone pointed out that Alastair was right about both Matthew and James when he said, “Herondale will never love you more than Grace and Matthew will never love you more than a bottle. “ also I love how he is so protective of his sister. He truly cares about her so much.
As much as I love the Infernal Devices, I might have a new favorite series. I mean, obviously the other two books will have to come out before I can be sure, but damn this was good holy crap. This book combines the ensemble cast vibe we got in TMI and TDA with the rich historical aura of TID
Theory: Matthew is in love with James, not Cordelia? That's why he's jealous? He tells her he feels for both men and women, and the parabati bond wouldn't be threatened if the love was one-sided...
why isn’t anyone talking about how similar the merry thieves are to the marauders in harry potter,??? anyone else notice? especially matthew/sirius and christopher/remus
Oooh I didn't think about the idea of Valentine getting his ideas from Benedict Lightwood's book. Valentine probably chose to groom Robert Lightwood into the circle so that he had access to Benedict's works because the Lightwoods are probably ashamed of the works and keep it hidden in their family archives.
Theory: Wayland the Smith was an Iron Sister who made Cortana of Adamas with that infused feather and that's why we don't get a first name too. Also, SPOILERS FOR TDA AND TLH, Cortana is just amazing when you think about it. It was used at the gateway for Cordelia to reach James, it stabbed one of the princes of hell, it went through the black book of the dead or whatever its name was, it killed one of the riders of mannan, who were supposed to be untouchable... we stan Cortana
Maybe later on James walks through a dimension where Grace never lost her parents, making her Grace Cartwright instead of Grace Blackthorn, and she's actually really nice. Maybe they dump evil Grace in that dimension and take nice Grace back with them and that's who marries Christopher.
I couldn´t get through the last pages of the book without crying, but I was also SO FURIOUS at Grace and James and that whole situation. What a mix of emotions. I generally loved this book as an opener for a new series, so many plot lines & amazing characters!
this is the first series where i actually really love all of the main characters and even though they make bad decisions they are greatly depicted as just people, with both flaws and virtues. i think cassie's character writing is better and better in every next book! also, there is soooo many good quotes to live by in this one! and also i LOVE how it's the first time we don't have all of the mains living in the same house and we can see the different ways of interaction between families. can't wait to see more of alastair and what's gonna happen with him, his relationship with cordelia is one of the best arcs in this book imo. and anna freaking lightwood I LOVE HER - also you forgot cecily in mentioning the badass lightwood women, hope to see more of her interaction with the kids!
that quote will said to cordelia... something about how as a child he loved his father and then later he hated his father, and now that he is a father himself he knows he was simply a man, living his life and doing his best. that quote ruined me. such a relatabile storyline from will and cordelia here
I almost cried reading it because I went through the exact same thing with my own father. I never became a parent to understand him but the way that Cassie mentioned it in Chain of Gold really hit me hard. Also knowing that and rereading the scene where Will is crying about the death of his parents gives it a whole new level.
@@alx_writer6257 I know right! Same here, I went through adoration to resentment as I was growing up and learning more about my parents to now starting to realise my parents are merely people themselves; that they live their life the best they can the same way I'm trying to. I haven't arrived at the forgiveness Will had just yet, but I see it coming with time and Cassie just confirmed that suspicion for me through Will.
Milana Terzić it’s hard it sucks but forgiving them will set you free when he’s gone. It hurts you the most when it’s all said and done. I felt what you did as well as what we see though Will. I wish you the best and a Herondale of your own
Just finished both halves of the review, Christine ranting about Tatiana and Grace is everything I never knew I needed. They made my most hated Shadowhunter characters list back in Bane Chronicles, and it looks like we're gonna be stuck with them for quite a while. Really like how this series is starting out. The Nine Princes of Hell threw me off a bit, as I'm more familiar with the Seven Princes of Hell, but it was an interesting twist. Only one I didn't peg was Belial, who I had thought would be Beelzebub, haha. My brain always stores the oddest information, so thankfully I never had to go back and re-read or skim over the past books to remember things. Going into this I was very skeptical on the whole eventual Jesse x Lucie thing (I know the family tree isn't to be fully trusted, I'm just pretty sure they're going to be endgame), as I was fairly certain being raised by a nut job would have affected him in some pretty negative ways. Least so far the apple seems to have fallen far from the bitter, rotten tree. I'm just assuming at one point Jesse turns against his mother and then rejoins the Shadowhunters, hence the Blackthorns in TDA. Still not a fan of all the love triangles (or whatever shapes they're closer to at the moment XD), but overall the story is enjoyable. Magnus makes everything better, he is easily one of my favorite, if not my absolute favorite, Shadowhunter Chronicles character. Loved your review, hilarious as always
So I looked up the Carstairs line and yep Alastair had kids with an Unknown woman. But I was thinking since Sona is pregnant once more, wouldn't that child continue the line and my brain started theorising that John might be adopted meaning Emma is adopted but then again the family tree isn't accurate, mate Cassie Clare said NOT to trust ANYTHING!
This is quite possibly one of your best/funniest videos ever!! I’ve literally died cackling so many times and had to rewind to watch over and over!! Love this and you
Does anybody REALLY paid attention to the balcony scene, were James says “my parents have something for balconies” I laughed so hard at that part. And why about Matthew he deserves better I shipped him so much with Luce, but he is in much pain.
That part where we meet malcom fade and the first thing he asks is wether cordelia was a blackthorn because he needed blackthorn blood to get back annabel. That sent shivers up my spine
Honestlly Matthew stole the show (well the book here lol) for me. He honestly has the main protagonist energy and personality with such complexity and mistery around him. I love James but next to Matthew his character and personality kinda fades while Matt is giving me such Will/Jace aka the main guy energy. And about ship I honestlly wouldnt even mind if Cordillia ended up with him insted of James (altho I didnt really see the chemestry between them, but it could be interesting since James and Cordilia are predictable) I was thinking Matt would end up with Lucie but now I'm so lost lol I just want Matthew happy
If you notice at the end, they talk about how James was meant to be “Prepared” for belial, so technically, graces bracelet not only hypnotises James, but was meant to have him accept belial, so maybe grace was in on it and makes up for it when she puts it on James in the end, that stupid bracelet!
So many emotions right now, I don’t know how I’ll wait for the next book, I think I’m going to go cry about every beautiful relationship in this story now
I have a theory but this might be really REALLY WRONG... but at the end tatiana is said to become an iron sister, could she be the iron sister that appears in city of lost souls. I dont really remember what hapenned with that iron sister in cols but maybe, could that be real?
maybe Tatiana is sister Dolores? its described that her hair is gray and that her husband and child died. Dolores also means sorrow. but if she is, that means Tatiana turned good. shadowhunters.fandom.com/wiki/Sister_Dolores
I was SO mad when Belial came back even after Cordelia stabbed him! Like wth?????? He should've stayed dead at least for sometime but HE CAME BACK RIGHT AFTER 😬 And in GOTSM The land i lost Jem and Tessa both seem to know about Matthew's problem. So i guess at some point in tlh his secret came out in front of others surrounding Matthew. You talking about Grace being a demon in disguise crackled me up😂😂😂
I couldn't stop laughing at all your reactions because I realized that's how I must've looked while reading it myself 😂 I can't understand either WHY MATTHEW DOES NOT TELL JAMES ABOUT GRACE AND WHY HAS NO ONE REALIZED SHE'S EVIL! I'm as exasperated and frustrated as you are.
is no one gonna comment on the parallels between lucie and ty! like in CoG lucie says that she wishes she was with james, matthew and cordelia to burn down the building because it has been a dream of hers, and one of ty’s most famous lines is “pyromania interests me”! also they both have a fascination for necromancy.
By the angel! This video just made my entire week! nobody I know loves shadowhunters like me so being able to relate to all your thoughts was so funny and amazing! Can't wait for the Booksplosion liveshow!!
james-cordelia-matthew love triangle: broke (it's been done before, we all know jordelia is endgame, idc if james and cordelia are great if they hurt matthew i'll come for them) matthew-lucie-jesse love triangle: woke (who's done a love triangle with a ghost??? also anything is possible, we have no idea who she ends up with other than from the faulty family tree, also lucie is the only one who notices matthew's problem and puts effort into helping him and matthew's crush on lucie was so cute for the five seconds we saw it)
I have to say, it’s been years since I watched your videos like this, Christine, but I’m genuinely happy I got back to them. I started a book blog this past year and have gotten back into reading more, so it’s only fitting that I found your videos again. Also, a side note, but I just watched your reviews of the TDA books last night, and your eye color is how I imagine the Blackthorn’s eyes to look. It’s not too vibrant but not too murky either. There’s just enough blue and green to mix together to make this really pretty aquamarine color. Sorry if that’s weird, but I’ve always had a weird obsession with eyes haha.
Cassandra also said that we'll see Magnus in a relationship in the next book and it's gonna be someone from Chain of Gold. Many people think that Matthew might be the one, but Alec was the first Shadowhunter Magnus fell for. Besides, in The Red Scrolls of Magic, there's a part in which Magnus says that he was 'close with Hypatia once, but it was over a century ago.' So I am almost completely sure that Magnus will be with Hypatia in this series. And I can't stop thinking about the next book, because there'll be so much angst but I love pain so whatever.
Thank you!!! Somebody is actually defending James in this situation!!! So many people have just been like James is trash and what not. But like, yes I feel really bad for Grace because clearly Tatiana does not care about her and has isolated her from everyone and treated her like crap, but she still did all of the stuff that she did and I can not ignore that.
I don't think you understand how much I love that you are as crazy and hyped about these books as me. I literally read this series and imagine your reaction to certain scenes and I get hyped for the book talk. love you!!!
Okay, I'm super late to the party because I have had a terrible slump since before quarantine and only yesterday finished the book. First of all, I just realized how it's been forever since I saw a full xtinemay booktalk and I miss these so damn much! Second, Christine hating on grace blackthorn and Tatiana's dress for like 40 mins straight is everything I didn't know I needed. LOVED IT! love your videos Christine!!
I love that most authors writing books in the late 1800’s early 1900’s are like “there are no LGBTQ people in this book because they didn’t exist back then like and cassies like”YOU’RE GAY, YOU’RE GAY, AND YOU’RE GAY, AND YOU ARE ALL BADASSES”
JAMES literally feels relieved whenever Grace cuts things off with him....like what?? He literally was like I should feel bad but I dont. And he was like how do i love cordelia so fast after Grace?? I'm FURIOUS
But that Epilogue though, I read it first thing in the morning before and I did not recover in time for my lectures at Uni and looked a mess haha (tears of joy and sadness uuuugh)
I agree with almost everything, except that Daisy to me sounds so cute, I love it. And my theory is that Grace's ability was given by Belial. Why? Because grace says when she gives the fucking bracelet to my James that she can't go against someone's blood unless he wears the chain, for me the chain is the bracelet. So, if Belial gave grace the ability to be a bitch with powers, she can't go against Belial, and James is related to him, so he has his blood and the power on him doesn't work unless he wears the chain. And that's why Belial says to Tatiana I think that when he went to the shadow realm he was protected because he wasn't wearing THE FUCKING BRACELET
You are a hundred different kinds of adorable and your excitement and passion for reading has made me enjoy so many books all the more, that is when i'm not watching your videos, seriously they are such a comfort during isolation
this is LATE so idk if you’ll ever see this, but i’ve been watching your videos for YEARS and i remember when you were yelling about the infernal devices books while they were coming out - your video for clockwork prince really stuck in my mind and you were my FAVOURITE youtuber for like a solid year i was yelling about you to everyone. and then you published your own books and went on to do GREAT things and cassandra clare mentioned you on her own tumblr?? and now finally FINALLY chain of gold comes out and it’s such a masterpiece and i am SO excited and watching your video was just a punch in the face of utter nostalgia, like i’m 21 now and it feels like it’s been forever but also i feel like a kid again because i’ve been following these books and all the short stories and the buildup for years and years. all this to say that god watching this video felt like a blast from the past and hearing you yell about this book gave me the catharsis i’ve been missing after i read this book - none of my friends read cassandra clare anymore so none of them get why i’m going insane.
Just saying that family tree lied! Barbra's death date was wrong so was Lucie's birth date. Plus, it said that Thomas is going to died in like 12 years.
the true villain of this book is tatiana’s dress
towardspages and her stupid bird hat😤
She never changed her clothes since Clockwork Princess 😂
Grace reminds me a lot of like the physical embodiment of Yin Fyn. How James said she tasted like burnt sugar, her color scheme, her addictive nature....
Baylee Turner that’s such a cool connection
Woah
jfc nice connection
this connection is IT
You are so right. Why i didn't think of that
MATTHEW IS CRUSHING ON BOTH CORDELIA AND JAMES
yes! i honestly thought he was in love james when i first read nothing but shadows because he reaaaally wanted to be james’ friend and just the way he acts around him especially in cog
I KNOWWW I DONT WANT ANOTHER LOVE TRIANGLE BUT I DONT THINK JAMES AND CORDELIA LIKE HIM LIKE THAT THNAK GODDD
Craftyfood_lover17 cc said there will be a big twist in their love triangle !!
Whatspoppinwhatsgucci? omg no my heart can’t take this😭
Craftyfood_lover17 yeah same!! i was hoping it wouldn’t be a tessa x will x jem thing but she said it’s some thing she’s never written like before !! Aaa
Fav part of the book when Jesse shows up in Lucie room and will walks in and is like “writers block lulu” 🤣🤣🤣
Mathew reminds me so much of Will for some reason
eman ahsan yesss!! I feel that too
Same! The Will who thought he was doomed, and behaving all angsty and reckless about it.
I actually said to my friend that Matthew is like the next gen Will and James is the next gen Jem (although James is an emo bitch too lol)
they do be brooding doe
Yup absolutely
My favorite moment is when people are like “no Anna’s the worst” and Christopher is just like “don’t say anything bad about my sister I’ll fight you”
Also the whole Lucy can command Jesse to do things could lead to some kinky stuff. I’m just saying
LOL
Why is no one talking about one of Anna's "conquests" being Virginia Woolf?! It made me LOL
eman ahsan omg ik
BRO I KNOWWWWWWWW! I texted my friend who was reading it with me and like screamed about it to her at 3 am. Cassie is so clever bro.
Hahaha I know😂
Omg
And the subtle quip about her having short nails -- that bloody killed me when I read it
All I want is for Cordelia to snatch that bracelet off James's arm and throw it at Grace's forehead..I don't think I'm asking for a lot 😭
I just kept thinking that I want her to cut the bracelet with Cortana and break the bond between James and Grace because "Cortana can cut through anything" 😭
relationships that just have to be endgame
- james x cordelia
- anna x ariadne
- alistair x thomas
- jesse x lucie
- matthew x happiness (or the new girl in the next book)
(Christopher deserves better)
i don’t take criticisms ;)
But my q is how will alastair continue the carstairs line??
@@mariachirica4377 Cordelia's mom was pregnant
@@mariachirica4377 there will be another baby carstairs
@@pradistaintan8806 oh hell i forgot...
I think Matthew and magnus will happen
I just have to point out the moment when James is laying in his bed looking at the ceiling and is like that looks like a duck, my dad would be horrified haha!!!
Yeeeees!!!! I was wondering how no one has mentioned that haha. PRICELESS :D
I KNOW I WAS DYING LOL
Literally when they opened the pyxis I was like this is will’s worst nightmare😭😭😭
Yep same i was terrified
I was afraid about the Carstairs' family tree but then we know that Cordelia's mom was pregnant so.. The descendants could be continued with this line.
“Ithuriel is the going angel donation box” I AM DEAD 💀😭💀😭💀
You said exactly what I was thinking reading this book: How is Charles Fairchild the son of Henry and Charlotte?
Juliejustdance how can such a bigot be the son of one of my favourite characters in TID??
Tbh he's not that bad, he's just power hungry
He is just like Percy Weasley
@@sergiovela7686 nah he can go rot
“And then Matthew’s gonna be really really sad”
I mean isn’t that just his constant state?
Signe Brummerstedt sadly 😔
You know when Cordelia cuts through the gate to the shadow realm with Cortana, and she sees all this worlds, one of them is "a beach and a bleeding moon" I immediately thought this was thule because Emma describes it that way in qoaad
EmbraceWithin Thule doesn’t exist yet though. It was created from the battle in City if Lost Souls
@@SlumberUnicorns it already existed, it's just the timeline that went different in that moment, besides someone asked Cassandra today on tumblr, and she confirmed that, in fact, that was Thule!
@@EmbraceWithin I FRICKIN KNEW IT
@@EmbraceWithin i was looking for it, but I didn't find it
SAME
crackpot theory for the next two books in the last hours: WAIT WHAT IF TATIANA’S DEATH AT THE END OF THE SERIES IS WHAT BRINGS JESSE BACK FROM THE DEAD SEEING AS IN TDA MALCOLM NEEDED BLACKTHORN BLOOD TO BRING BACK ANOTHER BLACKTHORN (ANABELLE)???
She's Lightwood blood
@@elviswellington technically so is Jesse
@@SmommyBear not really, Jesses father was a actual blackthorn, Tatiana has zero blackthorn blood.
I have a reallly crazy theory, but I think that Grace's powers link to Ash Morgenstern's as mentioned in Ghosts of the Shadow market, Ash can make people love him and so can Grace. . .maybe they're related somehow by Lilith or the Seelie Queen. Maybe Benedict and the Seelie Queen had a child, Grace, or with Lilith because the Seelie queen is a faerie not a demon. Idk, i hope this theory is correct!
Omg excellent theory 😍
That’s a great idea
Okay wow-
Wasn’t it a spell the Unseelie King used to make everyone love Ash. Possibly from the Black Volume, which might mean Tatiana has it?
cassie did hint she had “siren powers” and that mermaids will be shown in the next book
I really hope Jesse and Lucie are endgame.
Same same
they are! the family tree is evidence
@@fromlangkawi you cannot trust the family tree! chain of gold is proof of that and cassie also said not to trust them
this whole Cordelia x James situation is fertile ground for a lot of angst and pain, but BOY do I want it BADLY. also, I need Matthew to love himself again and I think this needs to be a WHOLE team effort.
Doesn’t Matthew act weird around Lucie too?? The whole time I couldn’t tell if he liked Lucie, Cordelia, or James
i was rooting for matthew and lucie the whole book just because of those subtle hints!! and then i ended up crushed when the whole matthew likes cordelia thing was introduced:((
It was mentioned Matthew had a childhood crush on Lucie, but it's passing
I love how optimistic you are about Matthew's future because I've been really worried about his arc since the end of the book. He's not on the family tree (as deceptive as it is) and I've been SO WORRIED since I figured that out.
I like the nickname Daisy because Cordelia picked it herself, in the extras snippet she says she likes the nickname and James says “Why shouldn’t we call you Daisy, if you like it?” I like that it shows Cordelia’s self assuredness and even at a young age James admiring her choice and confidence. I do love Layla better, but I like that it is a family nickname.
THIS
Okay but can we talk about how cute that scene at the end was will Ariadne and Anna like omg that is so fricken cute .
Also can we talk about how Barbara died because even though we didn’t know her well it was so sad. 😫
Cassie is really putting the Lightwoods through the ringer
Thomas - heart broken over Alistair and his sister
Eugenia - according to that time “ruined”
Christopher - Almost died
Barbara - dead
The parents - sad over Barbara and there kids going through the same shit they went through
then there is
Anna - finally got the girl she loves fighting for her good for you Anna
"Like father, like son, like son's friend" this cracked me up that's hilarious I didn't think about it at all 😂😂
I thought Magnus wouldnt be in the whole trilogy too but when he walked in I had to stop myself from screaming and when he said he might stay bc he smells something fishy I just cannot contain my happiness. Magnus saw through James and Cordelia oh man. Nobody knows Herondales as much as Magnus lmao.
I was SO UPSET when James was like "I don't love you, Cordelia." Like obviously you do!! And Ik it's wrong but I need Jesse to be brought back to life. Him and Lucie are too precious!!
My name is daisy and I would like to argue that I am in fact, a badass
Period sis!
I actually love the nickname daisy... but the nickname layla is awesome i wont lie. Also i liked the scene between cordelia and matthew when matthew said that she is kinda bossy for a girl with the nickname daisy -i died- and that scene gold
BUT SONA (Alastair's mom) is having a BABY and if the BABY is male he can continue the Carstairs line and Alastair can live with whoever he wants 🥺
edit: grammar
Not just male, even if it's a woman it can continue. Like Charlotte and Henry. Henry is a Branwell and Charlotte Fairchild, their kids go by Fairchild
Good point we forgot about!!
I wouldn't be surprised if Grace married a Morgenstern later in life. But first I really want Cordelia to destroy Grace's bracelet with Cortana
12:05 I love that you mixed up James & Will because I thought that too! James is a lot like Will but also completely different, i kind of think he got Tessa's calm smart and serious vibe thingy and I freakin love it. And also the part when you described Cordelia being a bit like clary but doesn't have her recklessness- I just love how she's always scheming and planning- kind of reminds me of jude duarte. But i love how brave she is. *fangirling*
No, Cordelia and Jude are nothing alike! Cordelia is so pure and nice and Jude is so cold and manipulative. Love Jude, nonetheless
@@mlsc2346 Yeah, they aren't alike...i love them either way. What i meant was that i love that both Jude and Cordelia have that same intelligent quality to plan things through any situation. It makes them such badass heroines uwu. 💕They have different personalities but they are very smart and i love that about them.
You like randomly just stopped a thought process whenever grace is mentioned and just start ranting like I can’t I feel the sameeeee EVERY TIME I THUNK OF HER I HATE HER
I want Lucie to get way more credit in future books. I love her and she reminds me so much of Tessa and I want her to get her recognition SO badly
sameee i feel like she's too under-appreciated, idk if its just me but i saw some similarities with clary because of her stubbornness lol
Cassie has said the family tree in clockwork princess is not to be trusted but I don't know how different the actual family lines are going to be and I'm scared about it because everyone is already so close to being married to their direct cousins. Also Matthew and Lucie need to be together but I know it's not going to happen and it hurts my soul :'((((( alas
everyone is rooting for lucie and jesse but I just haven't seen enough of him to be so sure, right now I'm definitelly leaning towards matthew and lucie (which seems impossible to ever happen)
Okay here's something I haven't seen a lot of people talking about. Emma's mom's name is also Cordelia. So you're telling me that a woman named Cordelia Townsend married John Carstairs who has a distant relation who was also named Cordelia. Nah fam. Keep in mind that Cassie connected Clary and Tessa by just having their last names sound alike. Now there are two characters in two different series who have the same name. Something is afoot. I don't trust it.
Dylan Wickersham everyone’s related
the name fray was a combination of the “f” from fairchild and the “ray” from gray that jocelyn and tessa and magnus came up with when she first met with magnus so she could properly hide her identity. that’s why they sound familiar. it’s from one of the novellas in the bane chronicles
Izzy and Alec's middle names are Sophia and Gideon from whom they're decended. Emma's middle name is Cordelia-
Still, is weird. It could be nothing but it could be something . I also have a theory regarding the Carstairs owe the Herondales. I don’t see Alastair marrying a woman and the third Carstairs is a baby so I don’t think Emma Carstairs who has Cortana is descended from the third baby but from cordelia. It a very rare in that era to only have one child so I believe that one if the reasons for the fake family tree is that James and Cordelia has two babies and they decide that one of them should have the Carstairs name so she can give the baby Cortana. It s even a discussion in Cog between daisy Alastair and their father, the day Cortana chooses her.
Dylan Wickersham Oh and beyond that. Why does a Fairchild, Jocelyn, the ability to hide things into paper, a gift which could belong to someone with powers like a Herondale... Maybe the person Matthew ends up with Is Lucy after all, Cassie said on tumblr not to discredit a possible relationship between them. After all, she could marry both Jesse and math at different times in time.
So i have a theory that when grace mentions at the end of the book that she needs the bracelet to manipulate james because of his blood, it may be because that her powers were given to her by belial and so he(belial) is immune to her powers. And as james is belial's grandson and shares his blood, even he has this immunity to her charms, which is why grace has to use the bracelet that was given to her by Belial to make the spell work on James and constantly have him touch or kiss her to reinforce the power of the spell.
I have a theory that Belial's 'anchor' that he refers to in the epilogue is Sona's unborn baby.
My reasons:
- we've had weird baby stuff happen in every series so far (valentine's experiments, lilith's experiments, mortmain's experiments, the ultra powerful faerie babies)
- the way the information was given to us was weirdly random and I definitely didn't notice any build up to it - there was no allusions to her changing her behaviours in any way, which is a staple when it comes to pregnancy arcs,
- there's no third kid in the tree! And yes, the tree is misleading and all, but that feels like a pretty blatant missing piece!
Rachel Varghese so true especially about the last one! Cordelia mum is defo pregnant and that was sprung upon us very quickly. I think that that’s one of the key misleading details as the cairstairs line must continue otherwise cortina wouldn’t be given to emma right?
Someone pointed out that Alastair was right about both Matthew and James when he said, “Herondale will never love you more than Grace and Matthew will never love you more than a bottle. “ also I love how he is so protective of his sister. He truly cares about her so much.
have been reading Cassie's books for 6 years now and still the first thing I do after finishing one is watch Christine's book talk on it
me lying dramatically on a divan while drinking champagne: bold of you to assume my bi fashionista oscar wilde #1 fan son is in love with cordelia
Lol I didn't get the vibe he was crushing on James but I def could have read that situation wrong
@@polandbananasBOOKS whatever is going to happen I'm ready for Cassandra to make clowns of us all
As much as I love the Infernal Devices, I might have a new favorite series. I mean, obviously the other two books will have to come out before I can be sure, but damn this was good holy crap. This book combines the ensemble cast vibe we got in TMI and TDA with the rich historical aura of TID
Theory: Matthew is in love with James, not Cordelia? That's why he's jealous? He tells her he feels for both men and women, and the parabati bond wouldn't be threatened if the love was one-sided...
why isn’t anyone talking about how similar the merry thieves are to the marauders in harry potter,??? anyone else notice? especially matthew/sirius and christopher/remus
yesss omg I was thinking that!!
me too!!!
Same!!!
Yess
Oooh I didn't think about the idea of Valentine getting his ideas from Benedict Lightwood's book. Valentine probably chose to groom Robert Lightwood into the circle so that he had access to Benedict's works because the Lightwoods are probably ashamed of the works and keep it hidden in their family archives.
Theory: Wayland the Smith was an Iron Sister who made Cortana of Adamas with that infused feather and that's why we don't get a first name too.
Also, SPOILERS FOR TDA AND TLH, Cortana is just amazing when you think about it. It was used at the gateway for Cordelia to reach James, it stabbed one of the princes of hell, it went through the black book of the dead or whatever its name was, it killed one of the riders of mannan, who were supposed to be untouchable... we stan Cortana
Maybe later on James walks through a dimension where Grace never lost her parents, making her Grace Cartwright instead of Grace Blackthorn, and she's actually really nice. Maybe they dump evil Grace in that dimension and take nice Grace back with them and that's who marries Christopher.
I couldn´t get through the last pages of the book without crying, but I was also SO FURIOUS at Grace and James and that whole situation. What a mix of emotions. I generally loved this book as an opener for a new series, so many plot lines & amazing characters!
After that Ash theory, I believe everything you say now
this is the first series where i actually really love all of the main characters and even though they make bad decisions they are greatly depicted as just people, with both flaws and virtues. i think cassie's character writing is better and better in every next book! also, there is soooo many good quotes to live by in this one! and also i LOVE how it's the first time we don't have all of the mains living in the same house and we can see the different ways of interaction between families. can't wait to see more of alastair and what's gonna happen with him, his relationship with cordelia is one of the best arcs in this book imo. and anna freaking lightwood I LOVE HER - also you forgot cecily in mentioning the badass lightwood women, hope to see more of her interaction with the kids!
that quote will said to cordelia...
something about how as a child he loved his father and then later he hated his father, and now that he is a father himself he knows he was simply a man, living his life and doing his best.
that quote ruined me. such a relatabile storyline from will and cordelia here
I almost cried reading it because I went through the exact same thing with my own father. I never became a parent to understand him but the way that Cassie mentioned it in Chain of Gold really hit me hard. Also knowing that and rereading the scene where Will is crying about the death of his parents gives it a whole new level.
@@alx_writer6257 I know right! Same here, I went through adoration to resentment as I was growing up and learning more about my parents to now starting to realise my parents are merely people themselves; that they live their life the best they can the same way I'm trying to. I haven't arrived at the forgiveness Will had just yet, but I see it coming with time and Cassie just confirmed that suspicion for me through Will.
Milana Terzić it’s hard it sucks but forgiving them will set you free when he’s gone. It hurts you the most when it’s all said and done. I felt what you did as well as what we see though Will. I wish you the best and a Herondale of your own
Just finished both halves of the review, Christine ranting about Tatiana and Grace is everything I never knew I needed. They made my most hated Shadowhunter characters list back in Bane Chronicles, and it looks like we're gonna be stuck with them for quite a while. Really like how this series is starting out. The Nine Princes of Hell threw me off a bit, as I'm more familiar with the Seven Princes of Hell, but it was an interesting twist. Only one I didn't peg was Belial, who I had thought would be Beelzebub, haha. My brain always stores the oddest information, so thankfully I never had to go back and re-read or skim over the past books to remember things. Going into this I was very skeptical on the whole eventual Jesse x Lucie thing (I know the family tree isn't to be fully trusted, I'm just pretty sure they're going to be endgame), as I was fairly certain being raised by a nut job would have affected him in some pretty negative ways. Least so far the apple seems to have fallen far from the bitter, rotten tree. I'm just assuming at one point Jesse turns against his mother and then rejoins the Shadowhunters, hence the Blackthorns in TDA. Still not a fan of all the love triangles (or whatever shapes they're closer to at the moment XD), but overall the story is enjoyable. Magnus makes everything better, he is easily one of my favorite, if not my absolute favorite, Shadowhunter Chronicles character. Loved your review, hilarious as always
Seven hells, a heart from Christine, I nearly fell off my bed XD
she talked about the word 'alacrity' and I once did a presentation on that word so I got WAY TOO EXCITED about that 🤣
LMAO
So I looked up the Carstairs line and yep Alastair had kids with an Unknown woman. But I was thinking since Sona is pregnant once more, wouldn't that child continue the line and my brain started theorising that John might be adopted meaning Emma is adopted but then again the family tree isn't accurate, mate Cassie Clare said NOT to trust ANYTHING!
This is quite possibly one of your best/funniest videos ever!! I’ve literally died cackling so many times and had to rewind to watch over and over!! Love this and you
The longer I look at Christine’s outfit the more I like it
Her name is “Ariadne” Bridgestock not Adrienne.
Richard Wilson i was getting annoyed at the misspelling too
Richard Wilson my thoughts the entire time 🙏🏼😂
Richard Wilson I also saying Adrienne because her real name is hard to say😂
that was bugging me too.
Yeah and also, it is Alastair not Allistair......
I DIED at "Oh Badass, my badass!" 😂😂
Also "You're about to marry and have kids with a ghost, talk about a story"
Does anybody REALLY paid attention to the balcony scene, were James says “my parents have something for balconies” I laughed so hard at that part. And why about Matthew he deserves better I shipped him so much with Luce, but he is in much pain.
“Like father like son and son’s friend” 😂😂😂😂😂
Wouldn't it be ironic if Grace Blackthorn is Zara Dearborn's ancestor?
Could you tell me who is Zara Dearborn?
Is she that girl who doesn't like Emma?
@@mlsc2346 Yes, that one
@MLSC 23 Yes, that EVIL, EVIL devil.
Iconic comment.
That part where we meet malcom fade and the first thing he asks is wether cordelia was a blackthorn because he needed blackthorn blood to get back annabel. That sent shivers up my spine
Honestlly Matthew stole the show (well the book here lol) for me. He honestly has the main protagonist energy and personality with such complexity and mistery around him. I love James but next to Matthew his character and personality kinda fades while Matt is giving me such Will/Jace aka the main guy energy.
And about ship I honestlly wouldnt even mind if Cordillia ended up with him insted of James (altho I didnt really see the chemestry between them, but it could be interesting since James and Cordilia are predictable) I was thinking Matt would end up with Lucie but now I'm so lost lol I just want Matthew happy
If you notice at the end, they talk about how James was meant to be “Prepared” for belial, so technically, graces bracelet not only hypnotises James, but was meant to have him accept belial, so maybe grace was in on it and makes up for it when she puts it on James in the end, that stupid bracelet!
So many emotions right now, I don’t know how I’ll wait for the next book, I think I’m going to go cry about every beautiful relationship in this story now
I never rlly cried much because of frustration...until this book FREAKING GRACE AND TATIANA
LOVED both parts SO MUCH!!! Your booktalks are ICONIC!!!!
I think the nickname "Daisy" is so sweet!
I have a theory but this might be really REALLY WRONG... but at the end tatiana is said to become an iron sister, could she be the iron sister that appears in city of lost souls. I dont really remember what hapenned with that iron sister in cols but maybe, could that be real?
I thought the same thing!!
@@EmbraceWithin but do you remeber what anything about that iron sister? cause i dont
maybe Tatiana is sister Dolores? its described that her hair is gray and that her husband and child died. Dolores also means sorrow. but if she is, that means Tatiana turned good. shadowhunters.fandom.com/wiki/Sister_Dolores
Magdalena was an iron sister who allied herself with the circle and is the one who made the infernal cup for Sebastian so it could be her.
@@Ravera_gyx when does sister dolores appear in the shadowhunter books?
Maybe Emma comes from Cordelia's little sibling because Sona is pregnant.
I was SO mad when Belial came back even after Cordelia stabbed him! Like wth?????? He should've stayed dead at least for sometime but HE CAME BACK RIGHT AFTER 😬
And in GOTSM The land i lost Jem and Tessa both seem to know about Matthew's problem. So i guess at some point in tlh his secret came out in front of others surrounding Matthew.
You talking about Grace being a demon in disguise crackled me up😂😂😂
I couldn't stop laughing at all your reactions because I realized that's how I must've looked while reading it myself 😂 I can't understand either WHY MATTHEW DOES NOT TELL JAMES ABOUT GRACE AND WHY HAS NO ONE REALIZED SHE'S EVIL! I'm as exasperated and frustrated as you are.
is no one gonna comment on the parallels between lucie and ty! like in CoG lucie says that she wishes she was with james, matthew and cordelia to burn down the building because it has been a dream of hers, and one of ty’s most famous lines is “pyromania interests me”! also they both have a fascination for necromancy.
I really loved all the characters so much. I don’t know how Cassie does it all the time
By the angel! This video just made my entire week! nobody I know loves shadowhunters like me so being able to relate to all your thoughts was so funny and amazing! Can't wait for the Booksplosion liveshow!!
james-cordelia-matthew love triangle: broke (it's been done before, we all know jordelia is endgame, idc if james and cordelia are great if they hurt matthew i'll come for them)
matthew-lucie-jesse love triangle: woke
(who's done a love triangle with a ghost??? also anything is possible, we have no idea who she ends up with other than from the faulty family tree, also lucie is the only one who notices matthew's problem and puts effort into helping him and matthew's crush on lucie was so cute for the five seconds we saw it)
i almost peed my pants watching this video. I haven't laughed so hard in so long. I am in love with this video and this book
I have to say, it’s been years since I watched your videos like this, Christine, but I’m genuinely happy I got back to them. I started a book blog this past year and have gotten back into reading more, so it’s only fitting that I found your videos again. Also, a side note, but I just watched your reviews of the TDA books last night, and your eye color is how I imagine the Blackthorn’s eyes to look. It’s not too vibrant but not too murky either. There’s just enough blue and green to mix together to make this really pretty aquamarine color. Sorry if that’s weird, but I’ve always had a weird obsession with eyes haha.
Cassandra also said that we'll see Magnus in a relationship in the next book and it's gonna be someone from Chain of Gold. Many people think that Matthew might be the one, but Alec was the first Shadowhunter Magnus fell for. Besides, in The Red Scrolls of Magic, there's a part in which Magnus says that he was 'close with Hypatia once, but it was over a century ago.' So I am almost completely sure that Magnus will be with Hypatia in this series.
And I can't stop thinking about the next book, because there'll be so much angst but I love pain so whatever.
Only you can make me laugh so hard even with my heart broken after reading Chain of Gold
Thank you!!! Somebody is actually defending James in this situation!!! So many people have just been like James is trash and what not. But like, yes I feel really bad for Grace because clearly Tatiana does not care about her and has isolated her from everyone and treated her like crap, but she still did all of the stuff that she did and I can not ignore that.
I don't think you understand how much I love that you are as crazy and hyped about these books as me. I literally read this series and imagine your reaction to certain scenes and I get hyped for the book talk. love you!!!
Okay, I'm super late to the party because I have had a terrible slump since before quarantine and only yesterday finished the book.
First of all, I just realized how it's been forever since I saw a full xtinemay booktalk and I miss these so damn much!
Second, Christine hating on grace blackthorn and Tatiana's dress for like 40 mins straight is everything I didn't know I needed. LOVED IT!
love your videos Christine!!
The only time I cried readin this book was when James mentioned the ducks. I started sobbing hysterically lol
The Morgenstern already appeared in TID, so if there exist a new demonic line it would come from this series or later
I love that most authors writing books in the late 1800’s early 1900’s are like “there are no LGBTQ people in this book because they didn’t exist back then like and cassies like”YOU’RE GAY, YOU’RE GAY, AND YOU’RE GAY, AND YOU ARE ALL BADASSES”
It's been a while since I watched your book review. Still love you. Can't wait for more Shadowhunter books 💛
JAMES literally feels relieved whenever Grace cuts things off with him....like what?? He literally was like I should feel bad but I dont. And he was like how do i love cordelia so fast after Grace?? I'm FURIOUS
"Yo SATs where you at? My vocabulary has EXPANDED." omg I can't XD
Question: how did beliel impregnate tessas mum if he cant walk among men???
Now I MUST go back and read the infernal devices series ❤️
But that Epilogue though, I read it first thing in the morning before and I did not recover in time for my lectures at Uni and looked a mess haha (tears of joy and sadness uuuugh)
I had the thought that Grace was possessed....especially when her coloring and Belial's coloring are similar.
I agree with almost everything, except that Daisy to me sounds so cute, I love it. And my theory is that Grace's ability was given by Belial. Why? Because grace says when she gives the fucking bracelet to my James that she can't go against someone's blood unless he wears the chain, for me the chain is the bracelet. So, if Belial gave grace the ability to be a bitch with powers, she can't go against Belial, and James is related to him, so he has his blood and the power on him doesn't work unless he wears the chain. And that's why Belial says to Tatiana I think that when he went to the shadow realm he was protected because he wasn't wearing THE FUCKING BRACELET
It´s so good to see people that relate to my feelings about this book, around me there's no one who's read it and I've dying to discuss it
This series will probably become my favorite because I loved chain of gold so much, 5 stars
You are a hundred different kinds of adorable and your excitement and passion for reading has made me enjoy so many books all the more, that is when i'm not watching your videos, seriously they are such a comfort during isolation
You were literally me going back to Clockwork Princess book jacket 😂 I love your book reviews! ❤️
this is LATE so idk if you’ll ever see this, but i’ve been watching your videos for YEARS and i remember when you were yelling about the infernal devices books while they were coming out - your video for clockwork prince really stuck in my mind and you were my FAVOURITE youtuber for like a solid year i was yelling about you to everyone. and then you published your own books and went on to do GREAT things and cassandra clare mentioned you on her own tumblr??
and now finally FINALLY chain of gold comes out and it’s such a masterpiece and i am SO excited and watching your video was just a punch in the face of utter nostalgia, like i’m 21 now and it feels like it’s been forever but also i feel like a kid again because i’ve been following these books and all the short stories and the buildup for years and years.
all this to say that god watching this video felt like a blast from the past and hearing you yell about this book gave me the catharsis i’ve been missing after i read this book - none of my friends read cassandra clare anymore so none of them get why i’m going insane.
Just saying that family tree lied! Barbra's death date was wrong so was Lucie's birth date. Plus, it said that Thomas is going to died in like 12 years.