Back when I was poor and just into bracket racing, I had a set of radial T/A's on my Camaro that hooked pretty good on the strip, not a terribly quick car. When I finally pulled them off the rim they had zero tread left with a light cord exposure, those sidewalls were like a 10 speed bike tire they were so well broken in.
We shaved tires back in my circle track days and even grooved them for dirt tracks. I learned so much from those guys on how to get a small tire to stick. When you can pull a wheelie exiting a corner on a clay oval, you've got it figured out.
Just discovered FAST last week seeing your Vette run a low 9 on stock size bias tires and called you a clickbait liar. Apologies for that and thanks for this video. FAST and your Corvette now have a new fan.
I'm a retired ex-dragracer. That would be a fun job prepping tires for FAST! I'd work for free! Do the Goodyear Polyglass work as well? Mopars came mostly with Goodyear Polyglass.
First, another awesome video and thank you for showing and clearly explaining how these cars work! It’s insane how many people don’t understand the difference between Factory Stock and FAST classes. Anyone who can tie their own shoe should understand that these aren’t Bloomington Gold cars tickling an 8 second pass. Second, I like the voiceover intro! You’re editing is getting better with every video.
SUPER COOL content!!!!....i've been always wondering what dudes do to get them tiny tires to do even a 1.50 60'......priceless info, and VERY enjoyable to watch, TY!!!!
Are used to do that out on the street but without screw in the tire to the rim and you’re correct once they started getting down smooth they hooked real good thank you for the Contin
Back in 1967, serving in the navy at Boardman bombing range in Boardman, Oregon, I took my 61 Chevy to a Les Schwab tire store in Hermiston, Oregon to address a rough ride. They cut the tires on a machine similar to the one you guys have to “re-round” the tires. Problem solved.
Cool Video buuuuttt!!! lol What I really want to know is how in the world does Tony get the factory dual plane manifold help produce 1000Hp! It really blows my mind. Thanks for the content Jordan
I never imagined stock tires would hook that well. They sure seemed to be happy to spin like crazy on my Camaros and Chevelles but I guess the key is low pressure and a cheater slick to slick surface. Pretty amazing stuff. You could probably hire me to toast all your tires off if you'd want to save wear and tear on that expensive looking machine.
0:00 By building a car much quicker than low 9 seconds and then pulling all the timing out at launch? 18:29 Thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us.
Keep up the great work on them crazy tires, people are so jealous of people's achievements, don't let it get to you, Haters will be Haters,,,, Haters will make you stronger
thanks for clearing up for the no Sayers, most Likely does not effect them anyway. pretty cool thanks for sharing the procedure really like the videos keep them coming
I'm looking into hard tire racing to save $ 1.How many passes can you get on them? 2.Small burnouts or even avoid the water? 3.Does the car ride smoother after lathing the tire? 4. Would $40 used tires work as good since they are broken done ?
This is a cool class, just stumbled on your channel. New sub here. I remember my mustang back in the day hooked pretty good on a set of old worn out Firestone firehawks.
You used to be able to pick up the ancient smog/emissions chassis dynos with the tiny rollers for $500. Strapped down on cruise control for awhile might help break down the sidewalls?
I've heard about the machine that they used to use to balance your wheels. Now, I finally got to see one in action. Can you still get blades for it, or do you have to a blades made for it?
We have cut tires in kart racing for 30 years, we have to soak tires and roll them in hot boxes to get the tire prep to soak into the tire, some guys have 300 tires in there trailer ready to go.
I just looked on Coker Tire at these. They came on my 1971 z28, I still have the original spare wheel with original tire. But man the price on them is the same a a Mickey Thompson ET STREET R in a 275 60 15 !! And you got a stack of 10! That's some serious shit right there!😅 Great video sir!
Hopefully I can ask a question and get recommendations. I sort of inherited a 80 Corvette L-48 car that we're going to bracket race locally it will have somewhere between 360 to 400 horsepower and I would like for it to turn somewhere around 13 flat to 13.30's. Street driven on Street tires what should I do to the suspension to make it hook and be consistent
@@6or18 went through 4 stacks of car magazines (2 feet tall) and found the old article on him......your rjght, it was Greg. Car craft did a feature on the fast series, and they snapped a shot of that beautiful Buick on skinny white walls, just remember thinking it was the ultimate sleeper.
So i am curious about the actual class as far as prep. I mean i was around/and a member of nmca back when it first started, but are they consistent with the surface prep in this class, and if so is it closer to radial prep or, do you get what you get?
We see all sorts of prep when it comes to the race track surface. All depends on the event we’re at. We see some radial prep stuff, and we see some tracks with little to no glue. We set the cars up different depending on the surface.
Those horrid tyres I suspct will only have a few heat cycles before they turn to rock. Though making those cars faster than most new/ all Corvettes is an art.
Coker has Firestone G70 15" redlines for $574. Smaller tires are cheaper. F70 15s are $411 and other brands like Goodyear are cheaper too. Coker also might not be the cheapest website to buy from. I picked G70 because the F.A.S.T. website says that is the largest allowed.
You guys have nothing to explain to anyone,when you’re on top of your game and putting in the effort to make things work, = 9.sec 1/4 mile times on a factory reproduction small tire says a lot. Especially the 540 Scott bishoff big block, every one else is 🤔🤔🤔 what you guys are doing. Keep doing what you’re doing and make them chase you.
Love yall's channel and this FAST series. Way to go fast with out destroying a car to do it!
Awesome, thanks for showing us some of your FAST tips and tricks!
Back when I was poor and just into bracket racing, I had a set of radial T/A's on my Camaro that hooked pretty good on the strip, not a terribly quick car. When I finally pulled them off the rim they had zero tread left with a light cord exposure, those sidewalls were like a 10 speed bike tire they were so well broken in.
This is a great learning experience. My shop teacher told us about this way back in the 90s . Bet the machine is way older than that.
We shaved tires back in my circle track days and even grooved them for dirt tracks. I learned so much from those guys on how to get a small tire to stick. When you can pull a wheelie exiting a corner on a clay oval, you've got it figured out.
Dad always had good luck in the 60’s on bald snow tires. Said they hooked very well.
Just discovered FAST last week seeing your Vette run a low 9 on stock size bias tires and called you a clickbait liar. Apologies for that and thanks for this video. FAST and your Corvette now have a new fan.
You guys are sharp, love watching !
I'm a retired ex-dragracer. That would be a fun job prepping tires for FAST! I'd work for free! Do the Goodyear Polyglass work as well? Mopars came mostly with Goodyear Polyglass.
First, another awesome video and thank you for showing and clearly explaining how these cars work! It’s insane how many people don’t understand the difference between Factory Stock and FAST classes. Anyone who can tie their own shoe should understand that these aren’t Bloomington Gold cars tickling an 8 second pass.
Second, I like the voiceover intro! You’re editing is getting better with every video.
SUPER COOL content!!!!....i've been always wondering what dudes do to get them tiny tires to do even a 1.50 60'......priceless info, and VERY enjoyable to watch, TY!!!!
67 vette has been a 1.33
Love the video’s keep them coming, really excited to see how fast the 67 goes!! 😉
Me too! Currently waiting on trailing arm parts. Hope to get it together and get testing here soon!
Are used to do that out on the street but without screw in the tire to the rim and you’re correct once they started getting down smooth they hooked real good thank you for the Contin
F.a.s.t. is quickly becoming my favorite drag racing class!
Back in 1967, serving in the navy at Boardman bombing range in Boardman, Oregon, I took my 61 Chevy to a Les Schwab tire store in Hermiston, Oregon to address a rough ride. They cut the tires on a machine similar to the one you guys have to “re-round” the tires. Problem solved.
Cool Video buuuuttt!!! lol What I really want to know is how in the world does Tony get the factory dual plane manifold help produce 1000Hp! It really blows my mind. Thanks for the content Jordan
Thank you i actualy learned something today i think you guys have. This racing thing thing down to a science awsome job guys.
Ah, the old "thing thing"👍
I never imagined stock tires would hook that well. They sure seemed to be happy to spin like crazy on my Camaros and Chevelles but I guess the key is low pressure and a cheater slick to slick surface. Pretty amazing stuff. You could probably hire me to toast all your tires off if you'd want to save wear and tear on that expensive looking machine.
0:00 By building a car much quicker than low 9 seconds and then pulling all the timing out at launch?
18:29 Thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us.
WAY COOL AND VERY SNEAKY, I LOVE IT.
Great video! Makes me want to get a set of Wide Ovals for my 1973 Z-28... Looking forward to more awesome videos this season! Keep em' coming Jordan!!
Cool process, I’m surprised they last that long. Lots of glue on the track doesn’t hurt😉
Keep up the great work on them crazy tires, people are so jealous of people's achievements, don't let it get to you, Haters will be Haters,,,, Haters will make you stronger
thanks for clearing up for the no Sayers, most Likely does not effect them anyway. pretty cool thanks for sharing the procedure really like the videos keep them coming
Just curious if you run tubes up front also?
I'm looking into hard tire racing to save $
1.How many passes can you get on them?
2.Small burnouts or even avoid the water?
3.Does the car ride smoother after lathing the tire?
4. Would $40 used tires work as good since they are broken done ?
This is a cool class, just stumbled on your channel. New sub here. I remember my mustang back in the day hooked pretty good on a set of old worn out Firestone firehawks.
Those ‘tire truers’ were originally often used to reduce vibrations that balancing could not solve.
You used to be able to pick up the ancient smog/emissions chassis dynos with the tiny rollers for $500. Strapped down on cruise control for awhile might help break down the sidewalls?
I like the idea. We’ve talked about this and I think it’s the only time we wish our dyno was a roller dyno.
How would a radial hook if you dod the same prep?
"Hard tire class"
Great video, thanks
I would think reducing the shock applied to the tires would give it the ability to stick until the weight transfers.
Awesome content!! Keep ‘em coming!
Great information on the setup….thanks!!!
On a side note, the steering wheel on your uncle’s Nova is upside down…..
Great video! Was wondering how you guys got those cars to hook on stock tires.
Very good video. Still impressive to get 1.4 to the 60’!!!
This was cool to see, so when the tire is actually race ready how many passes before the belt shows typically ?
Love your channel. I would love to know where you get your music from. I'd love that groove!
I've heard about the machine that they used to use to balance your wheels. Now, I finally got to see one in action.
Can you still get blades for it, or do you have to a blades made for it?
Yes surprisingly someone still makes blades for them.
We have cut tires in kart racing for 30 years, we have to soak tires and roll them in hot boxes to get the tire prep to soak into the tire, some guys have 300 tires in there trailer ready to go.
Good intro. You are editing better every time.
Thanks! I really try to do well on the editing. I enjoy doing it.
@@HorsepowerDepot The cars are also sweet.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge..Love watching your videos..
Very cool GREAT info!
Have you guys tried any other tires... Brand or sizes?
I just looked on Coker Tire at these. They came on my 1971 z28, I still have the original spare wheel with original tire. But man the price on them is the same a a Mickey Thompson ET STREET R in a 275 60 15 !! And you got a stack of 10! That's some serious shit right there!😅 Great video sir!
Well when you compare that stack of tires, to the hardware in that building, I mean that's peanuts. They certainly have some incredible cars!
Thanks for sharing good luck
i would just buy HOOSIER ! tyres ready to go !
Hopefully I can ask a question and get recommendations. I sort of inherited a 80 Corvette L-48 car that we're going to bracket race locally it will have somewhere between 360 to 400 horsepower and I would like for it to turn somewhere around 13 flat to 13.30's. Street driven on Street tires what should I do to the suspension to make it hook and be consistent
Do the tires have a tread wear rating on them? Just curious if I can use them in a hard tire class. Thanks.
I love this channel!
Ever checked them wt a compound guage? I cant think of the name of the one i have off the top of my head but its the d type im pretty sure!
Very cool Jordan. I am curious how you keep the screws from puncturing the tubes?
They’re short, only grab the bead of the tire and don’t poke through on the inside.
@@patofdubois1 -Thanks!
Short 😢screws into bead area
Shorter than the bead
Thanks alot again for all super informations and i know its thruth,who said your liar, because he dont have your knowledge 😊 good day
Any reason why you all use the redlines versus the other repop tires that are available? Softer compound?
This class honestly looks like a ton of fun to run, just because of the personal challenge to make parts that were tossed for years now have to work.
Go into the trailing arm issues, show the bent ones and your fix.
We will. Waiting on parts to fix it right now.
@@HorsepowerDepot Awesome, Love your videos.
I did wonder and know I know. Is that how they did it in the old days (60s and 70s)?
Excellent video. Thanks 👍
Great content!
That's pretty cool info.What do you charge your customers to whittle those things down?
Any videos on how to screw a tire to a rim
Are you guys using stock width wheels or wider? Great info and thanks for sharing. 👍
Stock width.
Very cool!!! ThankYou!!!
What tire would you use if you could use any tire you wanted? Thankx.
Years ago I remember a guy with a black Buick in f.a.s.t. that would use Douglas white walls from Walmart, but that was a long time ago.
You may be thinking of Greg Gessler. He was one of the early FAST racers, and he won a lot of races.
RIP Greg.
@@6or18 went through 4 stacks of car magazines (2 feet tall) and found the old article on him......your rjght, it was Greg. Car craft did a feature on the fast series, and they snapped a shot of that beautiful Buick on skinny white walls, just remember thinking it was the ultimate sleeper.
Track prep makes a big difference
Makes a big difference in how we set the cars up.
This was a pretty neat video. I appreciate you sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Is there a difference in how radials are prepped?
Do you guys use or do they make an aluminum factory style looking rim?
Very cool!!! Love it!!
So i am curious about the actual class as far as prep. I mean i was around/and a member of nmca back when it first started, but are they consistent with the surface prep in this class, and if so is it closer to radial prep or, do you get what you get?
We see all sorts of prep when it comes to the race track surface. All depends on the event we’re at. We see some radial prep stuff, and we see some tracks with little to no glue. We set the cars up different depending on the surface.
Burnouts for miles sure is fun
Yes! I’ve missed it!
I wonder if I could use them in a hard tire race
Next should be front and rear suspension setup to add to the tire tech.
He did one on the camaro, its in the play list
I’ve done one on the Camaro and Black L88. Might do one on the 67 once it gets sorted and runs some good passes.
@@heltonthreeotwo Oh nice! I'll go check it out. Thanks.
what about a prepped track vs an unprepped track?
How important is track prep on that kind of tire?
Very
Awesome and interesting facts.... 👍 👍 👍
Basically the tires are available to everybody in the class so there it is
I haven't seen a truing machine since the late 80s.
I never saw one until a couple years ago lol!
Giving all the secrets away...
great info thanks
Thank you for your knowledge and videos . aka Air Wendling . 69 f-bird
Do you put any kind of « juice/liquid/treatment » on them at any point??
Just water in the burnout box.
NEATO. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
You can make the CTS-V the burnout car
Here's something you can keep in mind, if someone thinks you are cheating remember this. Whatever others see in you exists in themselves.
How msny passes do you get out of the rear tires?
On our 3rd season on the rear tires on the black L88. No idea how many passes that is. Way more than a normal slick or radial.
have you ever used a red strip tire ?
We have redlines on the 67 coupes we race.
Those horrid tyres I suspct will only have a few heat cycles before they turn to rock.
Though making those cars faster than most new/ all Corvettes is an art.
Are these tires bias ply polyester cord or radials
Biasply.
Thanks
very cool.
How much are the red lines to start with?
Coker has Firestone G70 15" redlines for $574. Smaller tires are cheaper. F70 15s are $411 and other brands like Goodyear are cheaper too. Coker also might not be the cheapest website to buy from.
I picked G70 because the F.A.S.T. website says that is the largest allowed.
En formule 1 c est du 13 yes
lets get them rolling burnouts going....noone knows how to do it properly...
lets see it.....cant wait
I ran tubes and 15 pounds of air, but I could run a 9 inch wide tire on a 1985 Corvette.
Why not just run a slick or dot tire? Just for bragging rights?
EDIT: Love what you're doing...dont get me wrong.
We use slicks or drag radials for testing sometimes. But we don’t drive them any different than on the tires that we race with.
💪😂😂😂 I’ve been telling ppl you don’t soak tires in tire compound and I was right 🍆👍👍👍
I could design you a machine that’ll do it a lot faster than 2 hours.
You guys have nothing to explain to anyone,when you’re on top of your game and putting in the effort to make things work, = 9.sec 1/4 mile times on a factory reproduction small tire says a lot. Especially the 540 Scott bishoff big block, every one else is 🤔🤔🤔 what you guys are doing. Keep doing what you’re doing and make them chase you.
427#
Why not Just buy a slick?
I got a turbo truck that’ll cut those tires down way faster than that machine. Holla at me, I’ll hook y’all up for cheap cheap