THE UGLY TRUTH ABOUT MARCH SKINS IN STATE OF SURVIVAL!

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  • Do march skins actually work the way we think they do? In this video, I tested them out to clarify this for once and all. This will change you view on march skins forever!
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  • @JUMP
    @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A big thanks to Psyreal for pointing this out to me! I wouldn’t have made this video without their questions!

  • @arjunmohan1510
    @arjunmohan1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another informative video. Thank you.
    I’ve noticed that after a fiend attack, all the troops march back to the settlements at the same speed. The ones with many march skins activated and the ones who have the few skins all come home together. I knew that something was off 😅

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure, Raymond! Thanks for watching!

  • @貓臉正太
    @貓臉正太 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    in my language Chinese, the description of march skin is: improve the march speed when solo attack monster.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup! I’ve heard. Asian translations seem to be correct. English one isn’t!

  • @ofcakoid
    @ofcakoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Jump for this test....was wondering same thing for longer time now

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re welcome! Glad it’s useful to you

  • @hotendedly1608
    @hotendedly1608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well then…. You’re definitely correct on the misleading part… I definitely thought the solo march meant solo attacks… so anything not rally related. Very good info to have.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s the main thing that frustrates me here. The description is misleading

    • @hotendedly1608
      @hotendedly1608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JUMP for sure…. Not thrilled myself… granted I don’t spend a ton of money to get march skins, but there are a few I’ve fought for 😏

  • @amethyst_025
    @amethyst_025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well that's frustrating 😒 shady shady shady
    Thanks for testing and figuring this out!

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙏🏼🔥

  • @rafaelhernandez4726
    @rafaelhernandez4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was looking for this info for a long time, had the same conclusion but needed someone else to confirm. Thank you.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome, Rafael! 👊🏼

  • @brandonbarber8668
    @brandonbarber8668 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I'm pretty sure someone mentioned it above but the English translation does say the march speed increase is only against infected. Thanks Jump.

  • @TTH991
    @TTH991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For everyone who has played since the start of the game, it clearly stated in ENGLISH, "increase march speed for solo infected attacks" or something like that.
    For some reason they changed the description quite a while back. All the old players know that the description is wrong, but for the poor new players who didn't, it really sucks.
    Anyway, spenders will always get every march skin from any event, they just buy their bundles and the march skin is a bonus for top up that they would habe done anyway.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this is the perfect analysis. I’ve been playing for well over a year and a half now and I had no idea. It has been passed on to the devs. Hopefully they make it more transparent! Thanks for the great comment, Huan!

  • @Mist_Ninjutsu
    @Mist_Ninjutsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's speeds up your March time to join rallies. From your base to the Ally your rallying with. Also to infected which makes Intel overall a much faster experience, also plague zone and the attack the reaper event to cross that long distance.
    But that's about it....

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure! Never denied that. The point I’m trying to make with this video is descriptions in game. They are incomplete, false or misleading. I’d like to see that changed :)

    • @Mist_Ninjutsu
      @Mist_Ninjutsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JUMP Sure, my comment wasn't to discredit anything you said ❤️

  • @bRUTALmALICIOUS
    @bRUTALmALICIOUS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting stuff, thanks for your time testing this. ✌️👍

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My absolute pleasure! 🤟🏻

  • @IKrazeyyHD
    @IKrazeyyHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I do trap the ETA is 17 seconds in war/eco(tested them both) however it is only a 10 second march till it hits.

  • @hidekinimbu751
    @hidekinimbu751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for your explanation. I'm an SOS player who doesn't really delve into data, so I really think your video is helpful to players to a certain extent. 🙏

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure!

  • @kursimwundern
    @kursimwundern 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great test.. But marchskins work only on infected and rallys on them.. First march on bunker will be faster as u attack the zombies that are in Bunker From start.. Every other time, when players are inside march will took Longer, same on every way back.. So evety time u sent March to destiny with zombies inside, skins. Will be active... That skins are used to be faster when doing intel in front of cap.. Or to get the first enter reward at bunker (now all do rallys to share rewards, no one go solo)

  • @kostas_othon
    @kostas_othon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jump in the older version it was specific that march skin only apply in infected. It was on the name. So those acts that it will affect is infected, infected friend (rallies), influencer trap, plangue zone and Bunkers only for first occupation. the it will be normal again.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, I’ve heard that as well. At some points my they changed it for some reason. Haven’t tested PZ, but bunkers was a clear no. Didn’t work there! Thanks for watching!

    • @kostas_othon
      @kostas_othon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JUMP you tested in bunkers with the boss monster (first (!!!) occupation) at the start and it did not have an impact? that is new then.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kostas_othon yup, no effect!

  • @theshore2667
    @theshore2667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video, really informational and straight to the point. I subbed 💪

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome to hear! 💚

  • @ulquiorra3504
    @ulquiorra3504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the information.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure man!

  • @WHY_SO_MAD511
    @WHY_SO_MAD511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video brother 👏 keep the info coming 👍

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Easy! Ps. Contact me on Discord for your membership benefits!

  • @savucri
    @savucri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you test also the other skins? Frame and hq? Is this the same thing were they work?

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just did a very simple (maybe too simple test) on infected and it did show that the added value is 2% defense for the frame. To test extensively, I would need two accounts with the exact same stats. Don’t have that unfortunately. If the value is correct, I would have to do a lot of extra testings. Its an interesting idea, but not sure if I’m able to actually test it with the tools I have to my disposal. Will look into it!

  • @sambronn6013
    @sambronn6013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s absolutely insane 🤯😳

  • @emerentianameicy9740
    @emerentianameicy9740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, thanks for this testing. Have you tried with a longer distance and launch the march for real? My friend tried it with 14 minutes march and there's a difference but very little. You mentioned about porting to the edge of the map but you ended up testing it with targets nearby

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey there! I record audio before I record footage. I tested everything off camera first before recording the actual footage, which is why the audio says ‘Porting to the edge of the map. I can guarantee you that the march skins do not affect march time but towards infected or fiends!

  • @erikb7385
    @erikb7385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The real question is are we actually getting the 5% off the time? Obviously it's cutting some time but doesn't seem like 5% to me.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not test that personally, but I have wondered the same question while doing it. Could be an interesting sub test!

    • @erikb7385
      @erikb7385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JUMP I activated one a while back and it was literally one second off the time.

    • @kostas_othon
      @kostas_othon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      well for Migo the capitol rally march was never accurate so I will not be very much optimistic on that. You can't easily test it though you need to find to point of the map where you have same time with your farm/smaller account and then need to do the math. but try to use an account with one skin with 5% or 8 % v. one acount with none speed march. 5% is not really easy to distinguish. but you need to have the same march time with the slower account so you need to point in the map that have equal and large distance (more than 15 min.)

    • @erikb7385
      @erikb7385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kostas_othon personally, I picked a point checked the time and then activated a march skin and checked again. At that time 5% = 1 second in time but i don't recall how far it was now.

  • @sadeekalazzawi
    @sadeekalazzawi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, for every appearance event I allocate $60 for it, as well as allocate tickets for it
    I have to collect it and buy a better briefcase

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Briefcases for life! 🤣

    • @sadeekalazzawi
      @sadeekalazzawi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JUMP 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Frazpas
    @Frazpas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exactly as I expected, a misleading description by Kings. The biggest, by far, is the use of % which is simply, not %. An hq skin, for example, does not add 2% attack. It adds 2 points. If your attack is say 200, and you get a new skin, 2% should bring it to 204 points, as 2% of 200 is 4.

    • @erikb7385
      @erikb7385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's adding 2% to your 200% not 2% of your 200%. You're either misunderstanding or wanting it to do something different.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, it’s a +2% on stats in the battle report. To test it properly you would need two identical accounts (one with more frame/skins than the other). I’m not aware of the actual values but as far as I’m aware it’s correct

    • @greebj
      @greebj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tested this way back when I started in 2019. Studied the reports (limited as they were in they old engine) and did a lot of A/B testing
      Concluded most of the % stats in the game were additive not multipliers
      Rapid dev talent IS the most powerful exception, a true 20% timer reduction on build and tech

  • @PierreEklund
    @PierreEklund 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speed on trap seems to play in imo. The ones who are in the front row differ in speed by a couple of seconds with higher marsh speed.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gonna try it out tomorrow on our trap to get my final opinion on it!

    • @mouneerg.8221
      @mouneerg.8221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it works on trap

    • @mouneerg.8221
      @mouneerg.8221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn't show the Real march time but as soon as the march starts you see a different march time which is way lower if you have lots of march speed skins

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can confirm that it works on trap!

  • @caseycarterbooks
    @caseycarterbooks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should you obtain the same March Skins you already have (to upgrade if that's possible) or should you just pick them based on personal preferences because they don't upgrade...

  • @sven4671
    @sven4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For Trap you need to see the real march time, when starting march, not in the screen from troops. Its the same by me, it shows in the troop screen something around 50 seconds, when marching it is something between 15-20 seconds.
    I know it from the beginning, 2 years ago, then it was march bonus for infected, meanwhile they changed it in the Text.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, correct. I had that in the original video, but like I said it was completely unusable. Running the test again in two days!

    • @weegee7831
      @weegee7831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JUMP so what are the results from trap?

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately wasn’t able to do it yesterday. Next trap it is

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weegee7831 can confirm that it does work on trap!

  • @--AB---
    @--AB--- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luckily in French it's clearly said than it's all about infected, though since I've won some (top up events) I've noticed a reduction of my marche time for trap, I've even to wait before to open my rally or I've the sacrified rally and a lot of peoples are sad🤣🤣🤣
    That's pretty useful for infected events or notally svs infected phase as ranks change very fast but imo better to not invest for that specifically, for example in skin store or in migo if there's a choice better to go for frames and skin, and to develop migo research for underground explorations since it helps a lot for good rewards in this event but also increase the march time against players, that's the only solution once all others ways are completed😔

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For sure! Its not useless at all. The point I’m trying to make with the video is misleading descriptions in the game. Its something that happens way too often and tricks people into buying things that do not offer what they think it does!

    • @--AB---
      @--AB--- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely, too often this kind of things happen and supports play with words, I'm pretty stubborn so usually I fight until I've some compensation😈🤣
      But that doesn't really surprises me to see than they changed the text, look at the shiba inu marche, it was a top up on 5 days, every day you had to buy for 7,5k bios to obtain it so 37,5k bios when usually that's 30k, so to indicate clearly than it will just help you with infected isn't enough to convince peoples to buy, but if description isn't clear then a lot will go for it as that's cute as that helps to attack others settlements even if that's not the case at all !
      I really like this game but as all wargames or even games in general with time it's more and more pay to win even if that means using some sneaky ways to make you spend😔

  • @Hemzees
    @Hemzees 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn! Thanks a lot. I almost just spent on skins. This is fraud for the game to seel March skins as improving 5% March speed without specifying which marches it speeds up.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you didn’t spend 😂

  • @mindyabusiness520
    @mindyabusiness520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thnx for another great video...as usual

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching, Dana! 🖤

  • @ahigg889
    @ahigg889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow , Thank you for this

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! ☺️

  • @KlaudiaGanancial
    @KlaudiaGanancial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Migo march skins are faster on the initial golgoroth event, compared to the ones that are bought. Just want to share

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, correct. 8% vs 5%! Thanks Kurdapya!

  • @tareqshikhan5532
    @tareqshikhan5532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    question:- do these skins make a difference in march speed when collecting the pools of spilled water in RR ..??

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haven’t tested that. But truly doubt it

  • @dealia7777
    @dealia7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Psyreal!

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      100000%

  • @othonnogueira2366
    @othonnogueira2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how about frames? i always buying frames, but now im worried about it😅😅

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As far as Im aware they are fine. Additional 2% buff on your regular research stats. This is based on what we see on reports tho. To really test it you should have two identical accounts attack eachother (one with frames and one without) and draw conclusions from there. That might be for another video 🤣

    • @othonnogueira2366
      @othonnogueira2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JUMP alright. thank you man!

  • @MEOW-sh9qz
    @MEOW-sh9qz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe travis works on bunker when you hit it first time. You get less march time with travis. But I tested that long time ago for stealing first reward. I'm not sure if it changed already.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rally is always the same time! Doesn’t matter what hero! Solo time can be reduced by using Daryl :)

    • @user-wd8vh4ob8s
      @user-wd8vh4ob8s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you rally with maxed Daryl does it reduce rally time?

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-wd8vh4ob8s nope

  • @XxXTheMayorXxX
    @XxXTheMayorXxX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🤬 well this is a bit frustrating news

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t shoot the messenger 😂😬

    • @XxXTheMayorXxX
      @XxXTheMayorXxX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🫣was just one of those…well shit, I wish I knew this before 138%

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@XxXTheMayorXxX You're not alone! Myself included ;)

  • @fierolobo1313
    @fierolobo1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Un vídeo bastante útil. Gracias!!!

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      De nada!

  • @christopherrama831
    @christopherrama831 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Can donate a march skin if i purchased 2 of the same. Thank you and more power to your channel!

  • @raymondadams9714
    @raymondadams9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m in state 178 when do u think it will come out for us

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Come out what?

    • @k.g.7645
      @k.g.7645 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Raymond

  • @iammazeyg9536
    @iammazeyg9536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about reservoir raid?

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Mazey! Same situation! No effect

  • @mohammadabuhejlih5708
    @mohammadabuhejlih5708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its work on trap and Plague Zone

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didnt test PZ! So, that’s possible actually. Unless I made a mistake during trap, it shouldn’t but I’ll rerun the test on trap in two days. I’ll get back to you here!

  • @ld577
    @ld577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This I already knew

    • @ld577
      @ld577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The one thing though with migo it does affect cap march times, you will see a march when u set the rally and a real time actual march time difference. Thar I noticed every svs and capital

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, absolutely! That’s why I specifically stated that I don’t have any MIGO buffs running

  • @garyallan6302
    @garyallan6302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about mayhem?

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Infected should be affected by march skins. Regular marches not

  • @raydominictagab2659
    @raydominictagab2659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have 1 word for that...SCAM

  • @someperson4397
    @someperson4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It says solo march speed so I always assumed it was just for infected and attack on players. Bunkers and cap all depends on location. This is a pretty good video because it put a lot to light of how silly KG functions and fools their players

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never really thought about it. Think lots of people don’t to be honest

    • @someperson4397
      @someperson4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JUMP I do actually. I do remember some marches are marked solo march speed and some had increases march to infected in their description so how does march speed stack if they offer different speeds . I am not sure if it changed after all this time but I think it was mainly the halloween skins increased infected march times and the rest solo.

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It used to be like that. But they switched it to this Appearantly. That’s what people told me when I was doing my research

    • @someperson4397
      @someperson4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just checked they did infact change all to say solo march speed but again we know KG that may just be a lie so ppl spend while the infected buff is true and not solo march

    • @someperson4397
      @someperson4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well thank you again for this .I wanted to post the link on discord but don't want to ruin Easter lol

  • @571notoriousr.a.y7
    @571notoriousr.a.y7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was me a couple of days ago 🤣

    • @571notoriousr.a.y7
      @571notoriousr.a.y7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JUMP yeah 🤣 this is very misleading though, definitely not spending my skin tickets on them anymore

  • @minge9
    @minge9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    English is off because the English speaking world simply has more purchasing power..

  • @mythwu4452
    @mythwu4452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😘

  • @martinkliment8171
    @martinkliment8171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg it says specifically it works for infected only, lol

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me, as non-English speaker: solo march speed does not equal works for infected only. In the Chinese and Vietnamese translations this is true, not in the English one, which a lot of people are using

    • @martinkliment8171
      @martinkliment8171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JUMP KG/FP are bunch of xx I think everyone is aware of that by now:))

    • @someperson4397
      @someperson4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You clearly did not watch the video , he did mention on certain versions of the game it says speeding up for infected but other versions says " solo march speed " solo means attacks on infected , to tiles, to a player or any march you do solo and not in a rally

    • @martinkliment8171
      @martinkliment8171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@someperson4397 How many brain cells you have, lol
      With first or second one everyone should notice or they deserve what they get, or actually don't get

  • @setsunarehaf
    @setsunarehaf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg I got tricked too....

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 they recently implemented the right description in the game ;)

  • @tubeequinten
    @tubeequinten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First 😏

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, second!

    • @alissasouza3672
      @alissasouza3672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too slow Mr Q!

    • @tubeequinten
      @tubeequinten 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alissasouza3672 😭😭

  • @jonathanvaledon6492
    @jonathanvaledon6492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤔🤨😠

    • @JUMP
      @JUMP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😬🤯