The Urus is a 10 year old platform... a lot of gas cars are riding old platforms. The Cayman/Boxster is an old platform. If it's a good platform, what's the problem? You're the type that bitches just because.
Not 20 years old but okay. Name another 400hp car for 43k. Or another twin turbo v6 for that matter. Hp to price ratio is near unbeatable other than the coyote mustang.
Hehehehe, everyone will be doing it soon enough. Nobody's going to develop a new ICE platform anymore. All development money is going to electric and hydrogen cars. If you want a combustion engine, this is the future.
What would you change it too? They arent going to develop a new engine for this car, that would drive price up too much. GTR engine would do the same. Think logically here.
60k for a nissan? there’s no world I would fork over that much money for this. $63k for BMW M2, $62K for RS3 are immediate better alternatives if i’m already looking at $60k sport cars
@@2seep I waited for years for this car to buy my first z only to be disappointed by some design choices, transmission, just ok engine & like 1000lb overweight to make it much more fun.
Idk that front is pretty ugly compared to the what we have now imo. That weird 2 mouth thing with how the front is shaped from the side view is pretty catfish looking. The loss of an actual bumper in car design kinda hurts how cars are designed now. They don't what tf to put in the front and that's how we end up with useless fake vents (not in this case ofc but just in general). edit: The best looking one is the 2024 Nissan Z Nismo. The base model Z's solid rectangle is a little weird because of how narrow it is between the headlights but the heritage looks like there's a tiny front bumper on top of another front bumper.
LOOKS a bit odd with the 2 grill segments being much the same size though. I would have gone one step further by repeating that side satin metal strip from above the side windows and used that as a divider across the grill and onto the corners of the car incorporating a light bar, while making the 2 segments a bit more size different.
I definitely like the new front end, but you're right, $6k premium over the standard price is nuts. And where I live, honestly, I have only seen one or two of these new Z's around since they came out, what...two years ago now? They're just not very popular, at least in my area, and my area, I will usually see the hot new cars at cars & coffee pretty quickly. So if they're already not a big seller, I don't see how you're going to convince someone to spend EVEN MORE for a special bumper, wheels and some stickers.
Yeah, that’s the funniest part to me too. Especially given how everyone and their mom was saying on the internet that the Z was such a superior alternative to the GR Supra and anyone who bought the Supra was a blazing idiot who was only buying the car for the name. Yeah, look how well that actually turned out
@@DodgerFloof then you have not been paying attention, my guy. I won’t say I see them everywhere, but they’re not rare in my area either. I’ve seen a good few of them everywhere I went; enough to be able to say “Is ThAt A sUpRa?!?!?!” One too many times
@@DodgerFloof by comparison, I believe I have seen 2 or 3 Nissan Zs. The Z came out in 2020. I get that gives the Supra a 2 year head start, but even so, the Z shouldn’t be THAT unpopular
The new front bumper looks *WAY* better than the base. When I was in the market for a car a few months ago, it was between the Supra, Z, and Camaro SS. I ultimately went with the Supra, but if the Z had this heritage front bumper, my decision would have been a lot tougher.
That new bumper is definitely how the regular Z shouldve been designed. I always thought the giant rectangle looks so awkward and ugly. This feels like if subaru were to remove the plastic cladding on the vb wrx
Sorry but i disagree. The heritage edition looks tacky to me. I don't get why they removed the two tone look. I feel like every decision they made for heritage edition made it look like a plastic toy. The plastic fender flares, the sticker, the stripe, the paint job, and front bumper looks weak and not confident.
I thought the close up of the sticker looked pretty good and thought, why would you say it's cheap, but when you showed the side view it became instantly clear to me, what you ment. Edit: And I totally agree, that 6k is too steep for that, maybe a mid sickle update with the new grill would have been better
At first wasn't a big fan of the square Grill, but now I actually prefer it over the spilt grill and nismo z grill. Though I would like to see some fog lights at the bottom corners of the square grill.
Eh. It *_definitely_* couldve been better executed, but i always liked the idea of the big grille on the new z. Reminds me of a shortnose+bumper delete build on an S30
I generally agree with the new separation, but believe it or not I still end up preferring the old grille shape. The radius differences in the new face is just so weird to me. The pure square is extremely bold I’ll say that, but it’s at least consistent.
"Not gold with the orange color" I feel personally attacked. 😂 My car is orange with copper wheels...that color combo looks better than you would think...go watch the new Twisted Metal show and you will see the main character's Subaru and see what I mean.
$60k for this car is absurd. For that price, if you want a small sports car, the BMW M2 or Audi RS3 are much better propositions. This car should be in the 42k range.
Looks like there is a missing cover on the grille! They should put on a better looking cover! Dont just leave a straight line rectangle! Even just splitting it into 2, it still looks like its missing cover!!
I don't know why some say this design looks better. Although the current Z front end is rectangular and quite uninspired, this split is like halves of two designs just cobbled together. The fact Nissan is going to charge +10k over the performance spec for worse looks and a paint job is disgraceful.
Seems like poor value for 6K bump over the base spec. Having said that just the bumper mould May have cost 500k so they are having to amortize a large investment over relatively small number of cars
it's just gonna end up looking weird and forcedly design, the original 400Z bumper is already as good as it is, it's just some people having to complain
I don't think it needs to be thicker, I just think it needs to less wide from wheel to wheel. The width is a bit too long and makes it look more catfish than car. Or maybe yeah, make the top one thinner?
@@SALEENS7GTR5 if it was less wide or thinner then it wouldn't look like the 240z... I think they should have kept the ovals in the grill but just put the bar beneath it and made it thicker to look like the 240z bumper.
They should have kept the z n/a. In a world where ev buildings are doing 0-60 in 3 sec. Id rather just have a free revving good sounding engine with linear power delivery
Nissan just refuses to make sense. I like this car however the price is out of line. Too many cars at 60k that are better. The Z needs to be a 40-50k that’s it. Nismo at like 57… i guess. Why would I buy this over the Supra?
Honestly I think this design is a miss. It's almost there but the bottom grille looks weird being so much wider than the top grille. Looks like a weird fish
Also, why would Nissan put a blue interior on an orange car? That makes zero sense, design wise. They could have offered black with orange stitching and stripes on the seat. THAT would have been way better than asking for blue. Like, come on man. Think about it.
The tacked-on fenders look like garbage, as does that heritage decal with tons of clear vinyl on top of the paint. And the front grille? Better, yes, but still barely acceptable. This car is a mess.
LW kits are extreme and highly polarizing. This model needs a few extra touches to be worth the premium, not entire makeovers that completely transform the car to be unrecognizable.
i personally think this heritage front end looks significantly worse. its not a square grill with a divider, its a weird trapezoid-like shape that makes the front end look way too heavy. the bottom half seemingly being more indented also looks off. i like the idea of the divider, i just really dislike the way it was executed here. it doesnt look more pointed to me, like how a 240z looks, instead it looks bottom-heavy, which isnt what i think of when i think of a fairlady... and for 60K? if you have that kinda money to spend on a nissan, youre not gonna go for the heritage version, youre going for a nismo, or better yet, an far less expensive previous model.
Well the original car design is nostalgic to the old-school Z but more so the heritage with its front end redesign. In some conversations some say an upgraded design off an original is valueless. But here nissan is debunking that theory which I am and have been always geared towards that conceptual idea... great move by nissan .. the nose couldve been cantilevered a bit more to give that shark nosed look by also disguising the short bonnet to look longer... ultimately if the bonnet is accentuated elongated in the area of the A pillar to the bonnet adding 6 to eight inches in that zone on the bonnet and fenders it would look more sexy on side profile.. but I'd say good job by nissan... 👌👌👌👌❤
The funny part is GTA V did a similar treatment for the fictional version of this car. Even a video game did a better grill design than the real car company
this guy baffles me, had they released this first, and then the original as the heritage he woul dhave said the same thing. always hating and nitpicking everything my god man
That's the objective of this channel. Besides, he's correct in that the price is ludicrous for a front bumper upgrade. I'd hate to find out what that bumper costs here in Canada...!
@@jamesaron1967 what I’m saying is, this guy always nitpicks everything. Had they released the split number design first he would have said “ oh it looks trash, the peice in the middle ruins the design”
@@pharaohcooks No because he was comparing it to the 240z which has a bumper that splits the grill in two. That's why he said it should have had the separation.
I have seen exactly zero of these since they got refreshed, and I'm in an affluent area. I don't like the shiny strop above the door - looks weird. I do like these latest adjustments tho.
Nissan is gettin way too comfortable charging out the ass for cars on 20 year old platforms.
Too*
I was going to comment about this I make videos saying that every single day🤣🤣
The Urus is a 10 year old platform... a lot of gas cars are riding old platforms. The Cayman/Boxster is an old platform. If it's a good platform, what's the problem? You're the type that bitches just because.
Not 20 years old but okay. Name another 400hp car for 43k. Or another twin turbo v6 for that matter. Hp to price ratio is near unbeatable other than the coyote mustang.
Hehehehe, everyone will be doing it soon enough. Nobody's going to develop a new ICE platform anymore. All development money is going to electric and hydrogen cars. If you want a combustion engine, this is the future.
So nobody’s going to talk about how they are getting away using a 8 YEARS old engine and a 10 years old chassis with a plastic oil pan
Engine is top tier, the chassis is also top tier. Plastic oil pan is shit
Amg also are using a 9 year old v8 so ur point?
If it ain't broke don't fix it
What would you change it too? They arent going to develop a new engine for this car, that would drive price up too much. GTR engine would do the same. Think logically here.
@@Infernos94 VR35DDTT that’s in the 2025 qx80 should’ve went in the Z
I honestly liked the first one, specially in gray
60k for a nissan? there’s no world I would fork over that much money for this. $63k for BMW M2, $62K for RS3 are immediate better alternatives if i’m already looking at $60k sport cars
Cadillac ct4-v blackwing $60k better than all of those as fun to drive manual rwd with probably one of the best manuals ever made.
@@swishy4mbgweighs almost 4k. So many other better options.
@@2seep I waited for years for this car to buy my first z only to be disappointed by some design choices, transmission, just ok engine & like 1000lb overweight to make it much more fun.
@@swishy4mbg
The transmission is fine imo
Just the chassis didn't add up to me.
I'll get the base model Z instead, base model is the only way to go, get some coil overs, then done
No that split grille looks awful
The best look for this new Z is definitely is the Nismo one
I agree. I actually prefer the the front look of the base model.
Neither look good.
@@faizfrez2729I agree
Nah
Idk that front is pretty ugly compared to the what we have now imo. That weird 2 mouth thing with how the front is shaped from the side view is pretty catfish looking. The loss of an actual bumper in car design kinda hurts how cars are designed now. They don't what tf to put in the front and that's how we end up with useless fake vents (not in this case ofc but just in general).
edit: The best looking one is the 2024 Nissan Z Nismo. The base model Z's solid rectangle is a little weird because of how narrow it is between the headlights but the heritage looks like there's a tiny front bumper on top of another front bumper.
LOOKS a bit odd with the 2 grill segments being much the same size though.
I would have gone one step further by repeating that side satin metal strip from above the side windows and used that as a divider across the grill and onto the corners of the car incorporating a light bar, while making the 2 segments a bit more size different.
I definitely like the new front end, but you're right, $6k premium over the standard price is nuts. And where I live, honestly, I have only seen one or two of these new Z's around since they came out, what...two years ago now? They're just not very popular, at least in my area, and my area, I will usually see the hot new cars at cars & coffee pretty quickly. So if they're already not a big seller, I don't see how you're going to convince someone to spend EVEN MORE for a special bumper, wheels and some stickers.
Yeah, that’s the funniest part to me too. Especially given how everyone and their mom was saying on the internet that the Z was such a superior alternative to the GR Supra and anyone who bought the Supra was a blazing idiot who was only buying the car for the name. Yeah, look how well that actually turned out
@@mrsoisauce9017 To be fair I've only seen like two supras since they came out.
@@DodgerFloof then you have not been paying attention, my guy. I won’t say I see them everywhere, but they’re not rare in my area either. I’ve seen a good few of them everywhere I went; enough to be able to say “Is ThAt A sUpRa?!?!?!” One too many times
@@mrsoisauce9017 ok and?
@@DodgerFloof by comparison, I believe I have seen 2 or 3 Nissan Zs. The Z came out in 2020. I get that gives the Supra a 2 year head start, but even so, the Z shouldn’t be THAT unpopular
I like the new Z but it just feels too chunky.
Neither bumper does it for me, and the front bumper is why I did not buy one.
Nismo looks better than both
you didnt buy one because you cant afford one
@@SatongiFilmswell that too
I agree with him. Front bumper is not for me. Supra much better
@@SatongiFilms
The new front bumper looks *WAY* better than the base.
When I was in the market for a car a few months ago, it was between the Supra, Z, and Camaro SS. I ultimately went with the Supra, but if the Z had this heritage front bumper, my decision would have been a lot tougher.
One thing i really like is the wheels, never thought these old wheels would fit on the car but they look amazing
Still ugly on the front. I think the nismo is the best design but still ugly too.
The new design just looks hilarious. previous single rectangular grill was much better.
That new bumper is definitely how the regular Z shouldve been designed. I always thought the giant rectangle looks so awkward and ugly. This feels like if subaru were to remove the plastic cladding on the vb wrx
Finally, it looks like a proper Z true to the Z heritage. This has the same aesthetic that made me fall in love with my 280Z so many years ago.
Sorry but i disagree. The heritage edition looks tacky to me. I don't get why they removed the two tone look.
I feel like every decision they made for heritage edition made it look like a plastic toy. The plastic fender flares, the sticker, the stripe, the paint job, and front bumper looks weak and not confident.
they did it to look like the original 240z that it's based on...
They removed two tone due to painting problems that delayed production
No reason to pay 6k for a different front end lol. Also nothing worse than added fender flares without added tire width.
I thought the close up of the sticker looked pretty good and thought, why would you say it's cheap, but when you showed the side view it became instantly clear to me, what you ment.
Edit: And I totally agree, that 6k is too steep for that, maybe a mid sickle update with the new grill would have been better
At first wasn't a big fan of the square Grill, but now I actually prefer it over the spilt grill and nismo z grill. Though I would like to see some fog lights at the bottom corners of the square grill.
Limited numbers? Just facelift it so all 2026 and onwards models look like that and offer that stripe package as a factory option.
I keep forgetting this car even exists.
I like the rectangle cutout grille better. It´s bold and highly recognisable. The new front gives it a double chin look...
Enthusiast would pay 6k to drop the weight 20%
Yeah, if they did this from early on I would buy this car, so I picked a used 2010 Kia Forte
Is this sarcasm
@@rickbernardy8647 yeah 😂. But for real, I'm currently using 2010 Kia forte
I prefer the original big grille. I never had a problem with it. It looks more modern.
you CAN buy the bumper, color matched from factory. check apexi usa or for international ask nengun.
It's like what Porsche did with the 992 by fixing the terrible rear license plate placement in the facelift.
I kinda like the body color roof on the heritage edition
Eh. It *_definitely_* couldve been better executed, but i always liked the idea of the big grille on the new z. Reminds me of a shortnose+bumper delete build on an S30
I generally agree with the new separation, but believe it or not I still end up preferring the old grille shape. The radius differences in the new face is just so weird to me. The pure square is extremely bold I’ll say that, but it’s at least consistent.
"Not gold with the orange color"
I feel personally attacked. 😂
My car is orange with copper wheels...that color combo looks better than you would think...go watch the new Twisted Metal show and you will see the main character's Subaru and see what I mean.
If you want the bumper and want to paint match it to your current Z, just go to a Nissan dealer and buy the bumper itself.
Love the front, HATE the sticker's!
You can buy the front. It will be available next year.
$60k for this car is absurd. For that price, if you want a small sports car, the BMW M2 or Audi RS3 are much better propositions. This car should be in the 42k range.
6:50 GTR went with gold rims for the final edition
Didn't like the z at the beginning, but the herritage feels like a new car, definitely how it should have starterd
Looks like there is a missing cover on the grille! They should put on a better looking cover! Dont just leave a straight line rectangle! Even just splitting it into 2, it still looks like its missing cover!!
I don't know why some say this design looks better. Although the current Z front end is rectangular and quite uninspired, this split is like halves of two designs just cobbled together. The fact Nissan is going to charge +10k over the performance spec for worse looks and a paint job is disgraceful.
The heritage grille just looks looks more generic.
I would color the grill dark grey on the standart Z
Seems like poor value for 6K bump over the base spec. Having said that just the bumper mould May have cost 500k so they are having to amortize a large investment over relatively small number of cars
Also, the Heritage Edition is $60K.
I’m not digging the front end as much. I still like the normal base one.
It’s also wider around the fenders
Looks more like the classic 240z with this bumper, but I feel like the separation could be a bit thicker.
it's just gonna end up looking weird and forcedly design, the original 400Z bumper is already as good as it is, it's just some people having to complain
@@ezrapardede1921 eh not really
I don't think it needs to be thicker, I just think it needs to less wide from wheel to wheel. The width is a bit too long and makes it look more catfish than car.
Or maybe yeah, make the top one thinner?
@@SALEENS7GTR5 if it was less wide or thinner then it wouldn't look like the 240z...
I think they should have kept the ovals in the grill but just put the bar beneath it and made it thicker to look like the 240z bumper.
I like the changes but sticker shock is too great. A lot of dough for a different front bumper.
So how long before a company can recreate the bumpers/kits for sale?
Cause damn if I pay $60k for a body kit.
I'm leaning towards Performance
Black wheels are more sporty. Silver elegant.
the fender flares and that "heritage" decal around the Z logo looks cheap af.
They should have kept the z n/a. In a world where ev buildings are doing 0-60 in 3 sec. Id rather just have a free revving good sounding engine with linear power delivery
Hopefully they replace the gearbox. 2nd gear was basically unusable from launch.
Nissan just refuses to make sense. I like this car however the price is out of line. Too many cars at 60k that are better. The Z needs to be a 40-50k that’s it. Nismo at like 57… i guess. Why would I buy this over the Supra?
what the heck took so long. this should have been the normal car
Where is the LC500?
Honestly I think this design is a miss. It's almost there but the bottom grille looks weird being so much wider than the top grille. Looks like a weird fish
This car has never done it for me.
I like the original bumper way more. The separation looks so yuck to me 🤢🤮🤢🤮
they need to go retro 280z
You bought a Z? .......... Really ?.......... Interesting ........
Finally a decent front end but you have to pay extra for it just like the nismo. Not me.
Front looks like a 2005 cayenne now. The standard looks better.
A shameless grift for 6k !
What you think about new e-tron gt
Also, why would Nissan put a blue interior on an orange car? That makes zero sense, design wise. They could have offered black with orange stitching and stripes on the seat. THAT would have been way better than asking for blue. Like, come on man. Think about it.
I wonder how much a new front bumper aftermarket with a paint job would cost vs this car?
Depends...but no more than half this
The tacked-on fenders look like garbage, as does that heritage decal with tons of clear vinyl on top of the paint. And the front grille? Better, yes, but still barely acceptable. This car is a mess.
60k for a datsun is insane…seems like its gunna get same fate as NSX. Too priced
looks like a fiat 124 from the front
way better design! more close to the 240z
For a honda or jaguar it would look good but it's a fkn firelady and the firelady needs to look different. Personally for a firelady is a bad design.
its what we want but implemented poorly
yeah the bar should be thicker and the top grill should be taller.
Glad that they didn't do this in the first place.
Just copy Hyundai homework and make it a Nissan Z
Still looks horrid should look like the liberty walk kit
nahh that kit looks so a*s
@@DodgerFloof the classic car had a nose cone and fenders as an option the modern one needs the kit to look like it
@@TinyBearTim wtf are you even talking about
LW kits are extreme and highly polarizing. This model needs a few extra touches to be worth the premium, not entire makeovers that completely transform the car to be unrecognizable.
Too fat- too much coin for super old platform.
Looks like a Mustang with those ugly stickers.
Double chin lol
It’s looks awful
ngl, the front bumper maybe inspired by GTA Online but minus the foglight
i personally think this heritage front end looks significantly worse. its not a square grill with a divider, its a weird trapezoid-like shape that makes the front end look way too heavy. the bottom half seemingly being more indented also looks off. i like the idea of the divider, i just really dislike the way it was executed here. it doesnt look more pointed to me, like how a 240z looks, instead it looks bottom-heavy, which isnt what i think of when i think of a fairlady... and for 60K? if you have that kinda money to spend on a nissan, youre not gonna go for the heritage version, youre going for a nismo, or better yet, an far less expensive previous model.
Well the original car design is nostalgic to the old-school Z but more so the heritage with its front end redesign. In some conversations some say an upgraded design off an original is valueless. But here nissan is debunking that theory which I am and have been always geared towards that conceptual idea... great move by nissan .. the nose couldve been cantilevered a bit more to give that shark nosed look by also disguising the short bonnet to look longer... ultimately if the bonnet is accentuated elongated in the area of the A pillar to the bonnet adding 6 to eight inches in that zone on the bonnet and fenders it would look more sexy on side profile.. but I'd say good job by nissan... 👌👌👌👌❤
The funny part is GTA V did a similar treatment for the fictional version of this car. Even a video game did a better grill design than the real car company
Are the transmissions still blowing up in 3rd for 60k?
So, they couldn't make the reef stickers not look like stickers and integrate them into the paint? 🤔
this guy baffles me, had they released this first, and then the original as the heritage he woul dhave said the same thing. always hating and nitpicking everything my god man
That's the objective of this channel. Besides, he's correct in that the price is ludicrous for a front bumper upgrade. I'd hate to find out what that bumper costs here in Canada...!
@@jamesaron1967 what I’m saying is, this guy always nitpicks everything. Had they released the split number design first he would have said “ oh it looks trash, the peice in the middle ruins the design”
@@pharaohcooks No because he was comparing it to the 240z which has a bumper that splits the grill in two. That's why he said it should have had the separation.
@@DodgerFloof Exactly, when the new Z was released it's exactly what he commented. Anyway, it's there now albeit at a price few will go for.
@@jamesaron1967 people will probably make replica bumpers you can buy.
I have seen exactly zero of these since they got refreshed, and I'm in an affluent area. I don't like the shiny strop above the door - looks weird. I do like these latest adjustments tho.